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Offline michaelnz

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Permanent Campsite
« on: June 11, 2016, 05:06:26 PM »
I am looking to have a campsite in the middle of our bush section. I am thinking of leaving an army surplus tent up over summer.  I have considered a building a wooden platform as a base and tent stove.

Has anyone done anything like this?
Any tips?

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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2016, 05:26:05 PM »
Be careful wild animals, you'll be in for a nasty surprise some day when you show up. Critters love places like that.


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2016, 06:10:59 PM »
nothing bigger than rabbits so should be all good. Will keep an eye on it though.

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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 06:39:47 PM »
Critters was my thought and concern too.

Spiders, snakes, racoons, rats, mice and the ever troublesome honey-badger


Ok, maybe not the last one.  Try not eat any food inside or two to three crumbs will tempt 10 mice eat holes and come inside.   

To keep some animals away you may have success with urinating near/close around your platform.  If getting haircut, save hair and spread around to put strong human scent there.  Not sure either of these practices will do any to deter mice, but is likely to deter skunks and coyotes.


Could you setup platform, but take down tent each time and store it on site, maybe inside two buckets stacked - mouths together.


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2016, 09:50:06 PM »
"Spiders, snakes, racoons, rats, mice and the ever troublesome honey-badger"

Luckily I live in New Zealand so the spiders are mostly harmless, snakes and no existent, a few rates & mice but unfortunately no honey badgers.  I hear that a Honey badger is one fearless mother fucker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

Thanks for the great responses. Fantastic to find a forum where people focus on a sensible answer rather than the typo in the title.


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 12:34:30 PM »
I did that "once" a nice tent, Metal poles all staked down. well the critters that live in the woods "won" ate holes in it to get in. then a nice tree decided to drop a limb on it-, so much for the 200.oo I had in it.at least I had (1) good weekend to enjoy it. I just left it there. im sure the mice in the woods lived under it all winter.


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 01:00:11 AM »
you need to make sure there are no one else in the area who are tending the weeds, if you know what I mean ; )
 we have had problems with certain types of people when it comes to harvesting time they  are very sensitive to having  others around even when we are the landowners and they are planting illegally on DOC or our land.



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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2016, 03:09:44 AM »
Even without food stored inside I think mice will have their way with the tent, as will the sun. UV light will weaken the fabric and mice will chew holes in it just for nest building materials. I think you're better off building a platform to set your tent up on, but taking it down and storing it in a salvage drum on site. Leaving it up will dramatically shorten it's lifespan.

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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2016, 06:51:37 AM »
I have to agree your tent is not going to survive for long. Mice will find it before long.

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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2016, 03:28:22 PM »
Check out Survival Lilly's YouTube Channel, specifically her semi-permanent setup. I'm thinking of setting up something like this on my land as a fun place to practice bushcraft skills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_n1_-seZkU


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2016, 03:54:02 PM »
Here is the setup I built on our property.

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=57817.msg678369#msg678369


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2017, 09:32:12 PM »
I have thought about building a large lean to with a cheap tarp to make it water proof but not leaving the tent there, but packing it in each time.  If critters are there or insects you could blast them with bug spray if necessary, then erect you tent.  The lean to would just provide additional shelter, or you could cook and such under it and set up your tent away from the cook area.  You never want to cook and tent too close together if possible.


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 11:20:26 PM »
possibly a yurt with a heavy canvas wall could be used. Building a yurt frame is not hard but a little time consuming. Fitting a custom canvas to it is not as easy. I doubt most tents left unattended may last. Some material may deteriorate from UV rays or get blown over in heavy winds if you are not around. I would build a tent platform which will be good for keeping the floor and everything dry but leaving up a tent, I am not sure about. I heard something about an LL Bean tent that goes up super fast:

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/91971?page=bigelow-easy-pitch-folding-cabin-tent


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2017, 11:49:45 PM »
Here is the setup I built on our property.

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=57817.msg678369#msg678369

BN's site is lovely!!! I did not sit in it, but I peered through the door with SP.

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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2017, 07:57:48 AM »
Could you setup platform, but take down tent each time and store it on site, maybe inside two buckets stacked - mouths together.

This is what I'd do if I was going to do the permanent set up thing.  The only negatives I can see is you have to put it up and take it down each time and since it is in a convenient bundle, it would be more accessible to thieves.  But the thief thing is a very minor concern to me.


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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2017, 04:09:07 PM »
The trick to leaving up a tent/yurt year around is to seal it as best as possible and spray peppermint oil in it regularly (every 2-3 weeks). I used a staple gun to pin down the tent flaps, and steel wool in the corners.

Before we started doing this, we saw a few field mice, but none since. I also keep everything in trunks or totes. Even our utensil are in totes with lids in the drawers. 
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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2017, 05:48:54 PM »
Build a yurt :) I live in one and it's great. There are how-tos for making them, all over the web. I'll be happy to advice if you need.
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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2017, 04:05:32 PM »
Build a yurt :) I live in one and it's great. There are how-tos for making them, all over the web. I'll be happy to advice if you need.
If you go with a yurt, search the forum for Surfivor's thread about his yurt.  I seem to recall it was a pretty good thread.
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Re: Permanent Campsite
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2017, 04:41:24 PM »
I also recommend doing a cost/time analysis. Our tent is only a temporary shelter until we build a home. Originally I was going to build a tiny cabin, but I couldn't justify the cost, if we are planning to build a home in 3-4 years.

Figure out how long you plan to live in the a yurt and divide it by the total cost like a car payment.