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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2013, 12:56:36 PM »
I might also hop onto the Anti-Krav bandwagon,  here, for similar reasons.

The problems I find with Krav come from various issues, usually originating with the instructors and their marketing/presentation of it.

I'll give you a couple examples:

There is a local martial artist who teaches his traditional style along with Krav Maga.   On his website, he almost GUSHES about Krav being the most amazing martial art.  There is, in his opinion, no other realistic way to defend yourself.  It is the utmost in realistic training and every technique is guaranteed to be street-worthy and phenomenally effective.  Moreover, the training is unlike anything he's ever seen, before.  There is NO way that training Krav Maga, in his manner, can possibly be more realistic for "street" or real-life application.

So, of course, I went.

And what do I see?  Everyone in gi (or dobok) pants and t-shirts bare-footed and practicing these street-worthy techniques.

Why do I take issue with this?  I don't have time to kick off my heels or put on my pajama pants when someone's bearing down on me with a**-kicking intent in their eyes.  These pants give you a false sense of mobility that you probably won't have in your jeans or even 5.11's.

Bare feet?  Yeah, I go into the bathroom at the bar in bare feet.  These also give you a false sense of movement.  If you kick in bare feet only, you have to relearn how to deliver those same kicks in shoes, which will grip the ground totally differently than bare feet.  Also, if/when  you grapple, you can slide your bare feet into positions much more easily than tractionable shoes.

Oh, and that was another thing: when I pointed this out to this particular instructor, he looked at me with the superiority of a person who's been training martial arts for over 20 years (as opposed to my meager and insignificant 35 years of practice, admittedly unbeknownst to him) and told me that, 1: with Krav Maga, the fight never goes to the ground. . . your opponent is down before he has a chance at a take-down, and 2: if a fight does go to the ground, it's over.

The real truth behind this:  The instructor doesn't know groundfighting, so rather than learn it, he just dismisses it.

I tried several other schools.  I found it rather intriguing that none of them were "sanctioned" by the same organization, yet each organization seems to indicate that it's the "real" Krav Maga.

Then, you get the ever-enjoyable marketing BS of "Civilian" Krav-Maga and "Police/Military" Krav Maga.  Because, you see, the Police/Military version is super-secret, ultimate killer-stuff and too powerful for use by mere civilians.  You see, the chick getting gang-raped in a darkened alley doesn't need to know those even MORE highly-efficient super killer moves.

Now, sure, there are people out there who have studied "Krav Maga" that can effectively apply them to defensive situations.  The same can be said for ANY martial art.  But from what I've seen, Krav is just a well-publicized set of techniques that are effectively marketed under the same auspices that you see the "Learn the Super Secret Instant Killing Techniques of the Elite, Black-Ops Operators" that you see in the back of Soldier of Fortune Magazine.

Lots of flash, lots of BS and a year-long contract at inflated prices meant to make you believe you're getting something downright awesome.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2013, 01:40:01 PM »
Saying this is taught to police/military is frankly a major turn off to me. Basically that translates to "this is what we teach when we have large groups of people that will never have to use this stuff without the benefit of backup and likely will never use it at all". Hand to hand is one step below handgun marksmanship in the infantry. And if you want to see what the typical cop is capable of watch some youtube videos and ask yourself just how special their training is if it takes 15 men to handcuff 1 tweeker. The occasional video of a cop owning a perp has always been the result of outside training.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2013, 03:51:04 PM »
I'm going out on a limb here but I recommend soccer, baseball, basketball, and other sports. Numerous champion boxers and MMA fighters these days have a deep background in soccer. Give the kid a heavy dose of cardio strength and muscle development. If he/she wants a martial art, go for it. Otherwise, building strength is key to me. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2013, 01:03:05 PM »
I'm going out on a limb here but I recommend soccer, baseball, basketball, and other sports. Numerous champion boxers and MMA fighters these days have a deep background in soccer. Give the kid a heavy dose of cardio strength and muscle development. If he/she wants a martial art, go for it. Otherwise, building strength is key to me. Just my 2 cents.

I agree and disagree.


Agree that soccer is great if your kid shows an interest in it.

Disagree with the cardio and muscle building comments.

At 5, cardio and muscle don't mean anything, it's all about instilling discipline and a work ethic into your kid.

Anything that you can sign them up for that will provide them those things... go for it. (karate, basketball, soccer, painting, playing an insturment... whatever it is)



Oftentimes, the kids who are the "best" at age 5, are not the ones who are the best at age 15-25. It's the kids who have to overcome limitations (physical or talentwise) through hard work that generally end up being more successful down the road.

(of course there are the genetic freak exceptions to the rule, but they are exceptions and you can't bank on that)

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2013, 08:12:15 AM »
Well, i am a Tae Kwon Do blue belt.

Been training for 4 years. And what i can say is, that on a rare occasion, what you train will happen on a real situation... It seldom goes as trained in the dojo/Dojan....

But

You gain a big set of skills, become fiscally fit and healthy.

For a five year old, i recommend

- Tae Kwon Do,
- Shotokan or Kyokushin Karate

Why ? Because all three teach about self respect, respecting others, not to prey on the weak and learn that violence is never a good thing.

Also,  all three have lessons of different types of kicks and punches. Kids, have a lot of energy and all always agitated so they will leave there energy there....

Competition is nice for kids to. Because they learn the values of defeat and victory. It is good for building the caracter.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2013, 09:18:50 AM »
At our school we teach Hung Gar Kung Fu, Muay Thai, JKD and Krav Maga. We only allow students of 17 years or older to participate in Krav Maga. Krav Maga has become a very generic term used for modern Israeli self defense taught to the IDF and other military groups within Israel. Its a combination of boxing, Muay Thai, judo and wrestling. Now some Krav Maga is more judo/aikido based like Moni Aizik's Commando Krav Maga while others like Eyal Yanilov's Krav Maga Global relies more on strikes. I would not recommend this martial art to anyone below 17 because all the techniques taught at our school cause severe damage and pain even when practiced at minimal speed. We also include knife, bottle, stick use and firearm disarmament.

A good school will have a program designed for small children which covers anti-bullying, courtesy, responsibility, school work as well as basic martial fitness. I personally would visit the schools that have a "kids" program. We offer several such as the "Kung Fu Kids" program and the "Black belt Club". our "black belt Club" instills long term goal setting which as you know is very difficult for children.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2013, 01:42:52 PM »
The instructor I took Kenpo from would not take students under 8 years of age.  He recommended TKD until they reached 8.  Even at age 8 there were many techniques he would not teach until a child was much older.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2013, 02:32:28 PM »
I could recommend Judo to get the kids started because it is in my opinion more practical than the other types (but I would not knock any of them).

I have a cousin who was a black belt in tae kwon do by the time he was about 12/13 years old because he started very young — and a friend got my daughter and I into Judo (she was about 12/13) for awhile and I really liked it until I injured my back (unrelated) and could no longer go for several months.

I've been thinking of going back to take Judo as a means of getting back in shape because it was one of the best workouts I've had. Soccer and Judo were by far the best "weight loss" workouts I know.
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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2013, 04:18:14 PM »
I haven't been around in a while and I wanted to chime in on this again since it seems that my comments have in some part steered the discussion to some degree.
 Martial Arts like any other skill or even language, is only effective if it can be understood by the intended student. If the art can't be taught to a child then I doubt its efficacy in the field.
 As far as Krav or Systema go, I understand you wouldn't give a 5 year old a six shooted and let them run around with it to play cowboys and indians with the other kids in the neighborhood who are playing with plastic. In the same vein, (with judging your child's maturity level) there are basic concepts and adaptations of advanced skills that can be toned down or modified for teaching to children. The claim that it is inapproriate to teach to children is a reflection on the Teacher and his unwillingness or inability (this isn't a bad thing, its just their choice or skill level as a teacher) to figure out how to teach basic concepts in a way that is appropriate for children. If its not in their business model or their specialty, that's fine. But the same could be said for tai chi, there are techniques in tai chi that can be deadly done hard enouggh or with the right leverage. Those ought not be taught to someone mentally incapable of truly appreciating the consequences of using them. I understand the concept of teaching age and maturity appropriate skills and techniques, but to say that a whole, style or method CANNOT or Shouldn't be taught to children is a little hasty and short sighted.
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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2013, 05:38:27 AM »
I think we all agree with proper safety.

I've never had a kid to my house that didn't want to hit my heavy bag. The five minutes it takes to put on wrist wraps, knuckle guards, and gloves (takes a little more padding to fit small hands into my gloves) are a good time to reinforce that we don't hit without gloves on and only hit bags or other people wearing gloves. After five minutes, they peter out but enjoy the experience. While the gloves and wraps are coming off there's an opportunity to repeat the rules.

When I had my corporate job the only time I felt like a man was at the end of the day when I would listen to the most thuggish rap and ready my hands to hit. Using wraps and gloves designates "hitting time" from "normal time" for me, for kids, and for just about everyone.
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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2013, 12:56:13 PM »
I haven't been around in a while and I wanted to chime in on this again since it seems that my comments have in some part steered the discussion to some degree.
 Martial Arts like any other skill or even language, is only effective if it can be understood by the intended student. If the art can't be taught to a child then I doubt its efficacy in the field.

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 I understand the concept of teaching age and maturity appropriate skills and techniques, but to say that a whole, style or method CANNOT or Shouldn't be taught to children is a little hasty and short sighted.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  I would go so far as to even say that anyone who says that a martial art is ineffective in the field because someone says it shouldn't be taught to a child has very little experience with reality-based martial arts.

A child lacks the experience and judgement of an adult. A child is more likely to lose his temper over things that would seem ridiculous to an adult.  Let's take a combatives-style, reality-based fighting system. . .say SPEAR or Marine Combatives (or my own).  Your assertion is that these systems are ineffective on the street because they shouldn't be taught to a child?

That's ridiculous.  Let me  use the system I teach as an example.  We teach gutter-brawling.  Quick, dirty, cheap-shots are the basic go-to methods of the style.  I will kick you in the crotch (not to squish your family jewels, but to break the cartilage that holds the pubic arch together), rake down your shin and stomp on the little bones of your foot as an opening.  I will poke you in the eyes, bite anything I can get hold of and deliver open palm-heel strikes to an exposed ear canal.  I will forcibly strike your carotid artery, the carotid sinus and the pneumogastric nerve with my ulna, fist or elbow. . .repeatedly.  When you're down, I will stomp on ANYTHING that has small bones. . .especially the hand or ankle.  Give me half a chance and I'll pretend I'm starting the most cantankerous lawnmower with your testicles in my hand.  I will punch you in the throat.  I will break fingers and toes and I will Mike Tyson you and spit the cartilage of your ear in your face.

Real-world self-defense is not a game.  It is not something that should be watered down to "politically-correct moves" after you kick your heels off, put your pajamas on and find someone to call points and time-out when a nose gets bloodied.   If someone comes to attack you, you put them down as fast and as hard as you can and get out.

I do not teach children this system since there is no "middle ground" for submission techniques (when we do an arm bar, it's to break the arm and move to the next appendage if you can't get clear of the attacker).  Doing a Kimura?  Break the elbow, move on.  Escort bar? Break the wrist, move on.  "Sideguard?"  you better be working those knees and elbows into the ribs and head of your attacker (or "pinching" them (aggressively pressing the available body part against the ground, trying to "pinch" it between your elbow/knee and the ground)).

You would have me teach these things to kids as their only method of self-defense?    Can you see the results of Bully Billy taking Little Tommy's Transformer?

Due to the lack of judgment, experience and no control over emotional extremes, this shouldn't be taught to anyone in puberty/adolescence (regardless of their age).

Your average martial art, where you wear a uniform and are allowed/expected to exercise respect to your fellow player is great for a kid.  It provides a cultural and physical construct that establishes peer-supported parameters.  Kids need those parameters and peers to help them understand their limits and focus their intention.

Martial Arts, with all their trappings, are a wonderful form of dynamic meditation.  Very few are actually geared specifically for unrestricted combat.  Most are now taught as forms of sports with all the restrictions thereof.  Many students can apply the techniques to real-world self-defense situations.   I know.  I have a third-degree blackbelt in Taekwondo, and first degree black belts in Judo, Aikijutsu and Hapkido.  I also have upper color belts in Brazilian and Hakko-Ryu Jiu-Jitsu and Isshin-Ryu Karate and have spent the past 10 years studying various filipino styles.  I've been doing martial arts for 37 years (since I was 8 years old) and that includes almost 25 years of teaching to both kids and adults.

There are simply some things for which children do not have the maturity.  There are simply some fighting systems/styles that should not be watered down from their original intent merely so a child can understand them.

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::EDIT::  Let me also add that I would teach these techniques to a child if ours wasn't such a limp-wristed, hanky-stomping litigious society.  I believe that violence begets violence. . .if a bully comes to pick on your kid, then they deserve to have their butt stomped into the ground.  Unfortunately, the parents of the bully will try to sue the victim for the broken instep and now-useless family jewels despite their off-spring's violent instigation.  There was a time when a bully got what he deserved and the courts accepted that.
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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2013, 01:21:05 PM »
We only teach our version of Krav Maga to 16 year old and older as well.

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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2013, 04:11:52 PM »

::EDIT::  Let me also add that I would teach these techniques to a child if ours wasn't such a limp-wristed, hanky-stomping litigious society.  I believe that violence begets violence. . .if a bully comes to pick on your kid, then they deserve to have their butt stomped into the ground.  Unfortunately, the parents of the bully will try to sue the victim for the broken instep and now-useless family jewels despite their off-spring's violent instigation.  There was a time when a bully got what he deserved and the courts accepted that.

This last edit is where you made the most sense. If it were my kid, I would want them knowing how to break people, not how to set them selves up for failure, but it is a good way to get sued from the instructor's point of view. I do disagree that a martial art should be all go for broke, but that is probably a separate convoluted thread. I like styles where there is a force continuum ranging from bugger off to die yesterday. Sounds like your style has the right tools for that so perhaps I've just misunderstood the focus.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2013, 08:58:01 PM »
This last edit is where you made the most sense. If it were my kid, I would want them knowing how to break people, not how to set them selves up for failure, but it is a good way to get sued from the instructor's point of view. I do disagree that a martial art should be all go for broke, but that is probably a separate convoluted thread. I like styles where there is a force continuum ranging from bugger off to die yesterday. Sounds like your style has the right tools for that so perhaps I've just misunderstood the focus.

Well, perhaps your violent encounters were a bit different than mine.  Other than the random drunk, I've never been assaulted by one person.  Additionally, these encounters (which do not involve firearms) usually went from Zero to Punch/Tackle/Kick in less time than it takes to read that.  I'm not talking talking about "duels" or "roostering."  I mean actual beat-the-living-crap-outta-you encounters where you don't have a badge or uniform to make them think twice.  This is the stuff that you use to fight to your weapon (or, preferably, fight to escape).

And yes, you can dial it a bit down.  I'm well known for punching the lower half of a wanna-be dueling opponent's fist, typically breaking the pinkie.  This usually causes them to rethink the issue.

No, this system is for the girl about to get gang-raped.  This is for the guy who's jogging and ends up jumped by 2 or 3 attackers or the woman headed back to her car after shopping to find herself sandwiched between two guys and her car.

Consider it like a gun. . .you don't draw it unless you need to meet deadly force with deadly force.  Or, in this case, you know the other guy is going to attack you and actually do harm, not your brother or friend playing grab-ass.  If you can vocalize that you felt you were in imminent danger of grievous bodily harm, then this is what you want to use.  Since you're conditioned from the get-go with the techniques and mind-set for maximum damage in the shortest amount of time and not to stop until you're out of the attacker(s)'s engagement zone, your paralysis-through-analysis stage is minimized.

Again, it's not for everyone.  Especially children.  But to claim that it, and any other style/system is non-effective because a kid should be taught it is extremely myopic.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2013, 01:40:58 PM »
Ok,
 Perhaps i left too much to the imagination in my most recent comments. I don't think you ought to teach children how to kill as such, however all of the deadly strikes and techniques Prof mentioned CAN be either modified OR omitted from training until the appropriate time.
  Martial arts like any other use of force are on a sliding scale depending on the situation. It may be wrong to use a deadly technique even if legally justified to do so or it may be morally right to do it but somehow legally wrong. That is part of the effectiveness of any use of force system from hands to hand guns. It also guides what is taught to a person and when along with other complimenting concepts and information. My comment was meant to imply that if the technique isnt simple enough to be taught to a child physically capable of doing it, it probably isnt very effective in a real world situation. It wasn't to say that children should be taught techniques inappropriate for them to use in their peer group. I hope that clears that up.
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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2013, 03:48:39 PM »
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu definitely... every class has sparring.  in my opinion it is one of the most practical.  wrestling and judo aren't bad either.  boxing and muay thai are good too but too much brain trauma in my opinion. 

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2013, 04:43:26 AM »
You guys realize he's talking about this for a 5 year old. A 5 year old shouldn't be concerned too much about the fighting itself, but more of the discipline of learning an art. Any kids program ("Kung Fu Kids" or "Tiny Tigers") should suffice. Should a child want to pursue martial arts passed the adolesence stage, then you should be having a legitimate conversation about which art they should pursue.

I've taken Kenpo (Tracy's Kenpo, pre-law enforcement) and Aki-Jujitsu (during law enforcement) and I'm toying with the idea of Krav Maga. The problem with Krav Maga is you have to vet the classes so you don't run into one of the "fitness Krav" classes that is little more than Cardio Kickboxing.

Tracy's Kenpo was nice, but I was too young and not making enough money to keep paying for the 1 on 1 training. It was quite violent and focused on stopping a threat by any means possible (which usually involved breaking bones).

Aki-Jujitsu was a nice mix of Akido and Jujitsu. I had a GREAT instructor who understood the restrictions that law enforcement has in reference to use of force. He'd teach most of his class one thing, but change it up for the cops in the class. Even though it was a great class, there was a huge focus on the history and tradition of the art, which I just wasn't interested in. Basically, you had to study Japenese to understand some of the terminology used.


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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2013, 07:40:13 AM »
since this is sort of revived i'll chime in, and first agree with everything the professor said in post 13.

i took kenpo for a few years when i was around 14 - 16. my instructor was amazing. we had two 1 on 1 classes each week and one sparring night. he only taught 1 on 1, no group sessions. his reasoning for this was that in a group you can't focus on the student and really develop them. he didn't charge too much (for 1 on 1) and there were no contracts.

he would tell you where the cheapest gear was so you could go buy it, and if you weren't going to the bigger city with the store he would pick it up for you and you could pay him back, at cost. and in the meantime he had loaner gear and pads for you until you could go.

regardless of the style that is taken, the instructor, IMO, is the linchpin. a good instructor who cares is what's going to develop the person taking the classes. we've thought about getting our son enrolled in a school just for the physical outlet. he's a crazy boy that loves to roughhouse and play fight, so i think martial arts will be really good for him. i'd also like to start taking something again, not sure what, but i know it would be more of a 'combat' style like inbox and the professor were mentioning. i'd want it for protection, for my son i want a sport.


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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2013, 09:03:49 AM »
Wrestling.  USA, or AAU depending on the state you live in.  Teaches everything a youngster needs to help his development, standard rules/moves everywhere and local tournaments on a regular basis.  Letting the child try out what he is learning is very important.  USA and AAU wrestling both have a lot of weekend tournaments across the entire country.

Any child that wrestles and then moves on into any martial art, boxing, Muay Thai, etc... will excel.  Coaches are vetted by a national governing body, credentials lost if they do anything "bad".  Any joe can open a business up and start coaching XYZ...

Cost is a fraction of 99% of martial arts gyms.  $75-$100 for an entire season, shoes and a singlet.  Semper Fi,

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« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2013, 01:04:45 AM »
You guys realize he's talking about this for a 5 year old. A 5 year old shouldn't be concerned too much about the fighting itself, but more of the discipline of learning an art.


That is actually exactly what I had in mind. Most kid martial arts are destructive to the joints and bones and are frankly horrible all around. Things in the vein of aiki/ju are soft in nature and include the right foundation to either use it for fitness, or proceed to more dedicated defensive application. Your local takemydoe instructor will swear up and down that he is teaching self defense, but most kids get nothing but a future with arthritis out of it.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2015, 04:42:06 PM »
First I would say that five years old is too young to worry about a martial art. Previously someone mentioned wrestling and I would concur.  That is a sport where it will give vital prepping for a martial art.  Some would say it in itself is a martial art but actually it is just  a sport where they get in good physical shape and mental toughness for later in life.  Then after some mental and physical conditioning they can move into a martial art like BJJ or MMA. Even of the child chooses a stand up style the conditioning and they will be much better prepared for it as they were working their minds and bodies while they were developing.

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Re: Which Martial Arts for a 5yr old
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2015, 08:50:27 PM »
Contractor, not a bad suggestion at all. I only contest that wrestling isnt a martial art. Its not in totality, but think if you are in a combat situation either in warfare or otherwise, if you can't kill or disable your enemy with weapons because you dont have them or the enemy is invulnerable to them then being able to put them down to exploit a weakness with a weapon or finish it manually is a martial art. Conversely, being able to successfully defend against the same is vital as well. The sport you speak of is this art with the deadliness removed for the purposes of practice of the basic skills that support being able to get the end result.  Furthermore is a great way to scale use of force in a situation that may not call for deadly force while preserving some ability to do so
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