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Offline surfivor

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2009, 06:57:08 AM »

 The reviews for the martin bow seem good, the pse impala has decent reviews as well, though slightly worse. I heard someone say martin would make a better bow than pse. The jag I think is just coming out or the production is being scaled up maybe. They had showed me the display model at a shop in maine, but they are not selling them until september if they cut a deal with martin I guess.

 Could a 50 pound recurve shoot wooden arrows ? Is it hard to buy arrow blanks and put the feathers on and would you save much doing that ?

 I'm still not sure if a 40 pound pull is too light, maybe it is I guess ..

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2009, 07:19:02 AM »
The reviews for the martin bow seem good, the pse impala has decent reviews as well, though slightly worse. I heard someone say martin would make a better bow than pse. The jag I think is just coming out or the production is being scaled up maybe. They had showed me the display model at a shop in maine, but they are not selling them until september if they cut a deal with martin I guess.

 Could a 50 pound recurve shoot wooden arrows ? Is it hard to buy arrow blanks and put the feathers on and would you save much doing that ?
PSE bows are okay.  I had a PSE Kudu 50#er.  The Martin will be a little more refined, which basically just means it'll be prettier & more finished looking.  The limbs on the lower end PSE's aren't what I would consider nice looking.  Pretty plain as a matter of fact.

You can shoot wooden arrows out of any trad bow.  In the long run, even though carbon arrows are more expensive initially, they'll last you longer than wooden arrows.  I build wooden arrows because I like doing it, & I like my arrows to be exactly as I want them.  I don't do it because it's cost effective, I do it because it's a hobby I can spend time doing.

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I'm still not sure if a 40 pound pull is too light, maybe it is I guess ..
Consider this when deciding on what poundage you want to go with on your first bow.  A lower poundage will allow you to practice form & drawing to anchor much more easily than a heavier poundage bow.  Form & drawing to anchor are IMO the two most important factors for new archers.  Without understanding & mastering these two things you'll have a tough time becoming, & staying proficient. Trad archery is very much about muscle memory.
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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2009, 07:24:28 AM »
I'd check your State hunting laws as to minimum allowable draw weights for bow hunting first.

But...yes..you can certainly shoot wooden shafts out of a 50lb bow.  There's something inherently wrong about shooting carbon or aluminum arrows out of a traditional bow. ;)

Fletching your own arrows isn't hard.  Espcially if you have the right equipment to do it.  If you have a traditional archery shop in your area, I'd talk to someone there about it.

Otherwise...give Ted Fry at Raptor Archery a call.  He's a great guy who has helped me quite a bit in the past.  He even let me buy a couple dozen shafts of mixed spine weights so I could play around with testing for my bow.

http://www.raptorarchery.com/

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2009, 09:11:04 PM »
I'd check your State hunting laws as to minimum allowable draw weights for bow hunting first.

What he said.

In Oregon, where I live, the minimum is 40# at 28” Which with my bad shoulder is likely the maximum I can pull without hurting myself.
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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2009, 09:20:53 PM »

 I was looking a a PSE Impala 45 pound take apart recurve on sale in june for $180. I was just about ready to buy it when the guy said the new martin coming out was better and showed me the display model they had. In a way I was dissapointed that he had made my decision more difficult. I liked the Impala that had natural wood finish and it was feather light. The guy told me that the martin would have less recoil since it was heavier slightly.

 I think I might like a 40 or 45 pound pull so that when I am much older, the bow will be easier to draw and easier in general. I don't plan to hunt game or deer except in a real emergency or possible hardship scenario.

 I like the idea of making my own arrows someday perhaps. It seems like a good self sufficiency thing.  Can you make a wooden arrow for $2 an arrow or so in materials per arrow ? Once you have the necessary tools, how long does it take to make an arrow ?

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2009, 06:26:47 AM »
I'm not sure if you can make an arrow for $2 or not once you figure in shafting, point or broadhead, fletching, nock, and whatever finish you want to put on them.  I've never really added it up.  It's always been more of a "just so I can do it myself" kind of thing.  Plus, if you're making your own arrows, you have a lot more leeway to play around with different combinations of components to try and find the best one for your particular.

I know I've spent a lot of time trying to balance maximum arrow speed with sufficient stability by trying different fletchings.

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2009, 10:08:14 AM »
Recently I have been considering alternatives to firearms with an eye towards things that depend less on consumables that I couldn’t make myself. I considered black powder but with the exception of the flintlock and older designs they rely on primers/percussion caps but flint isn’t exactly common around here so with the possible exception of the CVA Electra I don’t think that is quite what I am looking for.

A quick update on this point. MidwayUSA had the Electra on sale the other day and CVA is currently offering a $100 rebate making the price too good for me to pass up. So I have a bow that I could make arrows for, and a PB rifle that doesn’t rely on primers/percussion caps. Now to learn how to actually make my own arrows and cast my own bullets. I already know how to make BP and several ways to generate enough electricity to power the Electra if need be.

Any good resources you guys would suggest for a person looking to learn how to make arrows?
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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2009, 10:09:31 PM »
 I'm thinking of getting a takedown recurve bow made by october mountain that this guy who has a small archery shop around here seems to think is good.


http://www.octobermountainproducts.com/

http://insight.octmtn.com/Search.aspx?SearchValue=blue+ridge&SearchType=All&SearchSup=&SearchCat=
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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2009, 05:11:58 AM »
My next "attempt" at archery will be a "primitive" setup I think.  Make my own longbow, arrows, strings, etc.  I think that is a skillset worthy of the effort.  Might not even be shootable the first time or two around the block, but I doubt if the Indians got it "right" the first time either.

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2009, 06:15:14 AM »
Build yourself a board bow.  They are remarkable easy.  Easier than you can imagine.

Here's a whole bunch of info.

http://peteward.com/bow.building.htm

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2009, 06:29:59 AM »
Build yourself a board bow.  They are remarkable easy.  Easier than you can imagine.

THANKS TB!  I'll look into that.

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Re: My return to archery -
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2009, 09:28:02 AM »
dude, I was the highest bidder until 30 seconds before bidding ended, I think I should have kept quiet on here.



I don' t want to hijack the thread, so I'm starting a new topic in Stretching Dollars and Saving Money about bidding on eBay.

Take a peek, y'all, I've got a few tips & techniques that might help out.
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