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Title: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tycoon on November 25, 2008, 09:17:10 AM
I know some of you have probably seen this come across your e-mail inbox but for those who haven't seen it, here you go.

5 Things You Never Knew Your Cell Phone Could Do

For all the folks with cell phones. (This should be printed
and kept in your car, purse, and wallet. Good information to have with you.)

There are a few things that can be done in times of grave
emergencies.

Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an
emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it:

FIRST
Emergency
The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you
find Yourself out of the coverage area of your mobile network and there is
an Emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to
Establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly, this number 112
can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out.

SECOND
Have you locked your keys in the car?

Does your car have remote keyless entry? This may come in
handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys In the
car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their cell phone
from your cell phone. Hold your cell phone about a foot From your car door
and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near
the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from
having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be
hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other
'remote' for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).

Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and it
unlocked our car over a cell phone!'

THIRD
Hidden Battery Power

Imagine your cell battery is very low. To activate, press
the keys *3370#. Your cell phone will restart with this reserve and the
instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get
charged when you charge your cell phone next time.


FOURTH
How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?

To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the
following Digits on your phone: *#06#. A 15-digit code will appear on the sc
reen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it
somewhere safe.

If your phone gets stolen, you can phone your service
provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your
handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be
totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you
know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this,
there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones.

And Finally.....

FIFTH
Free Directory Service for Cells

Cell phon e companies are charging us $1.00 to $1.75 or more
for 411 information calls when they don't have to. Most of us do not carry a
telephone directory in our vehicle, which makes this situation even more of
a problem. When you need to use the 411 information option, simply dial:
(800)FREE411, or (800) 373-3411 without incurring any charge at all. Program
this into your cell phone now.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 25, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
Great post I had no idea...I think I am the only one who doesn't own a cell phone in America...
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: millerized1 on November 25, 2008, 09:47:59 AM
Don't feel bad, I don't own one either.  Don't need one.  Don't want one.

After being tethered to one, and therefore me to work, for 10yrs....I could care less if I ever see another.

Of course, some folks can't live without theirs....
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: archer on November 25, 2008, 10:29:56 AM
I wish I could get rid of mine..... Once reason why I camp where I do, no cell service at all.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 25, 2008, 10:31:10 AM
Ham radio!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: chris on November 25, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
The ability to communicate with people wherever you are. The ability to contact someone in an emergency. Our ancestors never dreamed of that capability. What a great idea.

Sadly, it's become a tool for tools who can't go thirty secodns without discussing their inane lives with other tools.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: TruckerTom on November 25, 2008, 11:01:40 AM
Modern cell phones are pretty amazing devices, particularly if you have a so-called "smart phone." I've got an HTC "Touch" from Sprint. It's essentially an extremely powerful pocket computer that also functions as a phone. I even use my phone as my podcast receiver/player, and it works exceptionally well.

If you don't want to talk on the phone, there's a very simple solution -- turn it off !!
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: millerized1 on November 25, 2008, 11:03:44 AM
The ability to communicate with people wherever you are. The ability to contact someone in an emergency. Our ancestors never dreamed of that capability. What a great idea.

Sadly, it's become a tool for tools who can't go thirty secodns without discussing their inane lives with other tools.

Don't get me wrong, for instant communications it's a great idea.  BUT, watching a teenage girl driving down the interstate at 4AM on the fourking phone just ain't right.
99%...hell, 99.9% of the folks that own them have NO NEED for them.  I have no need for one.  I'm not that important, but there sure are an awful lot of important folks out there. 7yr olds for one ::)

Being that connected to your girlfriend, boyfriend......NO. Just no.
Park the fourking phonebooth in the kitchen where it belongs. 
I'm just hoping.......(rant deleted).................nevermind.....I'd just rack up a few more positives if I said it. >:(

Remember when phone booths were stationary, and traffic was mobile!
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 25, 2008, 11:20:21 AM
I call shinnanagins on unlocking your car through the cell phone!!!

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp (http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp)
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: millerized1 on November 25, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
I call shinnanagins on unlocking your car through the cell phone!!!

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp (http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp)
but...but...but...but...I heard it on teh interweb, iz gotta be tru! ::)

I had an old TV with an ultrasonic remote that I could change channels with a can of Right-Gard....that's the same thing, right?!!?
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 25, 2008, 01:14:36 PM
Just for that...more bad Karma for you!!! ;D
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Dan on November 25, 2008, 02:17:38 PM
I went for several years without a cell phone but got another one a few months ago due to something Massad Ayoob said about if you carry a gun you really should be carrying a cell phone. The reasoning behind his statement is if, god forbid, you have to use your firearm to protect yourself what happens next, would you rather be the person that calls 911 and alerts the authorities as to what went down or would you rather a bystander that didn't see what happend called first and told the authorities what they think happened. That reasoning really resonated with me because I carry concealed and can see the value in being able to call the authorities to say "I was attacked" and that "I had no choice but to defend myself" rather than allowing everyone else to call in "a man with a gun just shot somebody". I also ride motorcycles and have had many close calls with inattentive drivers as well as rogue wildlife, a cell phone would be a handy thing to have in case I had to call an ambulance for myself or someone I was riding with if next time it turns out to be more than a close call.

To get back on topic for a moment some things I realized about my phone (LG Shine) after I got it is that the mirrored face could be used as a signaling mirror, while not as good as a regular mirror it does work. Also the camera on this model is equipped with a LED light that acts as a flash and that light can be turned on constant to be used as a flashlight.

Something else that you may not know about cellphones is that if there is a widespread emergency and the towers are busy preventing you from contacting your lovedones try texting. Text is sent as a short burst of information and is much more likely to get through than a call.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 25, 2008, 02:22:47 PM
Exactly!!!  First person to call 911 gets to be the victim.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Dan on November 25, 2008, 03:22:51 PM
Right, anybody that reads this and carries concealed but doesn't have a cell phone I hope you will reconsider and get a cell phone because as Tactical Badger said the first person to call gets to be the victim. I wish I could remember what show Massad was on talking about this, I think it was GunTalk but not sure of the date.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: millerized1 on November 25, 2008, 04:51:53 PM
No, thanks. I'll stick to not ever owning another one.
Besides, I'm more of a SSS person than a 911 person.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: flagtag on November 25, 2008, 05:05:31 PM
I have a cell for emergencies only. I HATE talking on the phone.  I buy the prepaid cards and have rollover time.  The only problem is that I have to buy a card every two months, even if I haven't used up my minutes.
On a rare occasion, I will call my daughter or grand-daughter in IN, just to use some of the minutes. 
One good thing - unless my battery runs down, in an emergency, I can stay on the line for a long time.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on November 25, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
Great post I had no idea...I think I am the only one who doesn't own a cell phone in America...
Not quite pal, I got rid of mine 3 or 4 months ago.  I should have done it sooner.

After being a medic for so many years & having to be on call for the service or the ER, I couldn't care less if someone wants to call me.  Call the house, if I want to talk to you I'll answer.  If I don't answer...well,  you get the hint. ;)

I call shinnanagins on unlocking your car through the cell phone!!!

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp (http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp)
Aw, you beat me to it.  That little fib's been floating around the webz for a looooong time.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 25, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
Great post I had no idea...I think I am the only one who doesn't own a cell phone in America...
Not quite pal, I got rid of mine 3 or 4 months ago.  I should have done it sooner.

After being a medic for so many years & having to be on call for the service or the ER, I couldn't care less if someone wants to call me.  Call the house, if I want to talk to you I'll answer.  If I don't answer...well,  you get the hint. ;)

I call shenanigans on unlocking your car through the cell phone!!!

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp (http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp)
Aw, you beat me to it.  That little fib's been floating around the webz for a looooong time.

Yeahhh we can start a no phone club.. Although that means Millerized would be in it... Damn it I'm buying a phone.
Seriously though where I live there is no service...
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 25, 2008, 09:05:49 PM
Exactly!!!  First person to call 911 gets to be the victim.

Ummm Does a badge trump that??? Plus wouldn't the dead guy technically be the victim???
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: ColdHaven on November 25, 2008, 09:09:49 PM
Well I tried the 3rd and 4th one and neither worked.  :-\
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: flagtag on November 25, 2008, 09:56:53 PM
Does anyone know if it's true that a cell phone can be "turned on' (without the owner's knowledge) and used like a mike by the Constitution violating law?
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Dan on November 25, 2008, 10:40:49 PM
Ummm Does a badge trump that???
Probably, but only after another LEO has arrived on scene and assessed the situation. You should expect to be disarmed and restrained while they figure out what happened and who you are, if it happens to be one of your coworkers or somebody that knows you, you would likely be disarmed but I doubt they would restrain you.

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Plus wouldn't the dead guy technically be the victim???
I don't believe the person that initiates a situation that results in there own demise can be considered a victim unless you turned the tables on them in such a way that would allow you avoid bloodshed but than shot them anyway. If I am attacked by an armed assailant and I react in the moment and kill my attacker I remain the victim of the initial attack. On the other hand if I pull out my gun and the assailant drops their weapon and puts up their hands no longer showing aggression toward me but I shoot them anyway they would then become the victim. That's my thoughts on it anyway YMMV.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 25, 2008, 10:50:34 PM
Ummm Does a badge trump that???
Probably, but only after another LEO has arrived on scene and assessed the situation. You should expect to be disarmed and restrained while they figure out what happened and who you are, if it happens to be one of your coworkers or somebody that knows you, you would likely be disarmed but I doubt they would restrain you.

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Plus wouldn't the dead guy technically be the victim???
I don't believe the person that initiates a situation that results in there own demise can be considered a victim unless you turned the tables on them in such a way that would allow you avoid bloodshed but than shot them anyway. If I am attacked by an armed assailant and I react in the moment and kill my attacker I remain the victim of the initial attack. On the other hand if I pull out my gun and the assailant drops their weapon and puts up their hands no longer showing aggression toward me but I shoot them anyway they would then become the victim. That's my thoughts on it anyway YMMV.

   Actually our policy is if you are involved in a shooting and they confiscate the weapon for evidence, they must replace it immediately. They were having officers go home unprotected and feeling like they were a criminal. I like that policy.

   I agree with you on the victim part, only problem is most media considers them victim's.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on November 25, 2008, 10:53:42 PM
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n14/OzarkRamblr/Smileys/Hijacksign-1.gif)...dang 5.0

Isn't it past your bedtime Bailey? ;D
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 25, 2008, 10:57:40 PM
yeah I gotta work a double tomorrow... Wife is losing her job, so I'll be doing a few of them...Have a good night
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Dan on November 25, 2008, 11:44:52 PM
Ummm Does a badge trump that???
Probably, but only after another LEO has arrived on scene and assessed the situation. You should expect to be disarmed and restrained while they figure out what happened and who you are, if it happens to be one of your coworkers or somebody that knows you, you would likely be disarmed but I doubt they would restrain you.
Just to clarify, I forgot to mention my previous statement was assuming you are out of uniform at the time of the shooting. 
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   Actually our policy is if you are involved in a shooting and they confiscate the weapon for evidence, they must replace it immediately. They were having officers go home unprotected and feeling like they were a criminal. I like that policy.
One of the perks of being in law enforcement, unfortunately that's not the way it works for the rest of us. If I am involved in a shooting my firearm will be confiscated and I wouldn't expect to ever see it again. Some people do get theirs back but I wouldn't count on it. I'll be down at the gun shop picking out a replacement as soon as I could, if I did get it back I would consider that a spare. Actually if I was forced to use it to end another persons life I'm not sure I would want that firearm back.
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   I agree with you on the victim part, only problem is most media considers them victim's.
True, but they have a different agenda than you and I.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 26, 2008, 06:01:39 AM
Exactly!!!  First person to call 911 gets to be the victim.

Ummm Does a badge trump that??? Plus wouldn't the dead guy technically be the victim???

Yes.  A badge trumps just about everything else.

No, the dead guy is not always the victim.  He's probably somebody's "good boy" that "never was any trouble to anyone..." ;D
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: millerized1 on November 26, 2008, 06:28:06 AM
Exactly!!!  First person to call 911 gets to be the victim.

Ummm Does a badge trump that??? Plus wouldn't the dead guy technically be the victim???

Yes.  A badge trumps just about everything else.

No, the dead guy is not always the victim.  He's probably somebody's "good boy" that "never was any trouble to anyone..." ;D
Yeah, ain't that the truth.  Poor XXXXXXXX, just in the process of turning his life (of crime) around, when he was shot (trying to commit murder) by this gun loving people hater (who was about to BE murdered) while he was just walking down the street (by detouring through the guys bedroom) just minding his own business (while rooting through his wallet). ::)

Remember, you pull the trigger, your life stops until you're proven guilty innocent.  And even then, if you don't lose everything during the inevitable lawsuits and hearings, you'll be branded a murderer by those members of the "other side".

If it ever happens at my house, no one will ever know about it.  Poor XXXXXX will simply quit committing crimes in our neighborhood. ;)
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 26, 2008, 07:04:00 AM
Castle Doctrine baby!!  Castle Doctrine!!  Ohio is slowly getting better.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: millerized1 on November 26, 2008, 08:05:23 AM
WV passed theirs. But, and until it sets precedent, is just a law on the books.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 26, 2008, 08:13:38 AM
That's probably accurate for Ohio as well.  Ours specifically eliminated any law suits against victims for defending themselves though.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tycoon on November 26, 2008, 08:43:05 AM
Yeah so I tried a couple of these with no luck either. Would have been nice on the extra battery power one. This damn iphone battery lasts about a day and it's toast.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tactical Badger on November 26, 2008, 08:57:06 AM
I carry one of these...

 LINK  (http://www.wirelessemporium.com/products/palm-treo-700wx-700w-700p-chargers-aa-battery-powered-emergency-cell-phone-charger-for-palm-treo-700wx-700w-700p.asp?id=msnshop)

...in my BOB for extra Cell Phone juice.  Seems to work well.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: techwiz on November 26, 2008, 08:52:41 PM
Just to help clarify a little more, if you want to believe me great. if you wanna take the time to search it yourself it won't hurt my feelings either....

112 - I wouldn't even bother.  >:( If your in the US, 911 is your best bet. In Europe they use 112 like our 911. If your cellphone has no service, it has no service - period.

codes to unlock battery life - nope...  >:( The code mentioned in the OP is for an old Nokia model that allowed you to make the phone call sound crappier than normal but use less power to make the call so the battery would last longer. The biggest problem with that is that it has to be supported on both ends. MOST of the cell carriers in the US do not have it enabled because they get enough complaints about the call quality as it is. There are a ton of codes that work on a lot of different phones, most of them can cause you to break your phone too if used incorrectly so best to stay away from them.

Unlock the car doors - No again.  >:( your key fob is a RF transmitter probably up in the VHF (99.992% are nowadays) That just won't work thru a phone call, Now you can hold the key fob up to your chin or head and you will get a few more feet of range out of it because it uses your bones as a radiator for the RF, same principle as clearing the static from your rabbit ears with your fingers.

forget what the 4th one was, stolen phone maybe?  ::) yea just write down your account number and phone number to the cell phone company. they already know exactly what phone you are using that was just stolen. that's how they bill you so they know how to find the phone in the system.

411 - yes, we have a winner!  ;D There are several you can call without having the 411 fee (you still have to pay for the phone call minutes like any other call unless you have unlimited minutes)
A few of the better ones are 1-800-466-4411 which is googles baby. You can only get business listings though right now. 1-800-373-3411 is good too, you have to listen to a 10 or 15 second advertisement before you get the number you want.

Hope this helps some... If you didn't guess, i have to deal with cellphones all day long...
Jeff
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 26, 2008, 10:12:50 PM
   I hate to high jack this thread, but I seem to be good at it so why stop here........... BUT I AM GOING TO YELL THIS!!!!!! Why doesn't everyone get HAM radio's!!!!  Get them for you, your wife, your kids... They can never take out HAM. Why are we all into prepping and gathering food and guns for SH*T HITTING THE FAN and are over looking solid communications. Think how sick you will feel when something goes off and you go to dial the phone and nothing happens. I am going to make it my mission to get all of the regular posters on here their HAM licenses. You ham guys help me out...

   Ham licenses cost $14 for life, it takes a 35 question test that you can miss up to 9 of them. That's it, bingo your a ham. There is absolutely no reason every one on here shouldn't have a ticket.

   Ham radio's are cheap, sure you can buy a $5,000 radio, but for a $120 you can get a kick ass HT (walkie talkie) to start. If you join a club usually $5.00 a month there is always some old guy who will hook you up with enough equipment  to get started( its kinda of a HAM code). 

   Ham radio operators live, breath and eat to operate under extreme emergency's.

   Picture in your head this scenario... You are at the store a few miles from your house and a boom in the distance goes off, next the store makes an emergency announcement of some horrific event that has just occurred. People all grab their phones and you see the terrified look on their faces, you hear complaints of the phones not working. Then you hear people making comments hoping their loved ones are OK..
   You head for an out the way area in the store, pull a little HT( about the same size as your cell phone) out of your EDC bag. Turn it on to your pre arranged frequency and make a call to your wife, you hear her scared voice come over the radio and ask when you are coming home. You reply, you OK?? She replies YES. You tell her your on the way home. The radios just paid for themselves.

   I hate to RANT, but I've become fond of you guys and this forum and I don't want you to have that sickening feeling when your not knowing what's going on with your loved ones.  NOW GET OFF YOUR BUTTS MY FELLOW PREPPERS and go to this link  http://www.eham.net/exams/ (http://www.eham.net/exams/) and take the technician practice tests a minimum of five times a day until you score consistently in the 80 percentile. When you achieve that PM me for further instructions. GOD BLESS you all and have a happy Thanksgiving....
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: flagtag on November 26, 2008, 10:57:38 PM
Ham radios would be great.  Cost is a problem (base station) Tower might be a problem also. (Renting your home, town regulations, etc.)
CB's also a good idea. (In fact, my son is talking on his base right now.)

I would really like to get into Hams, tho.  I would also like to learn Morse, although, as I understand it, it isn't used much anymore - and not required.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: archer on November 26, 2008, 10:59:13 PM
OK. you have me convinced.. Taking practice tests... now...
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on November 26, 2008, 11:49:42 PM
Ham radios would be great.  Cost is a problem (base station) Tower might be a problem also. (Renting your home, town regulations, etc.)
CB's also a good idea. (In fact, my son is talking on his base right now.)

I would really like to get into Hams, tho.  I would also like to learn Morse, although, as I understand it, it isn't used much anymore - and not required.
Cost can be a problem, if you choose to go with top of the line most expensive equipment.  It doesn't have to be though.

For example...My mobile rig in my Jeep is an Yaesu FT2800M (http://www.universal-radio.com/CATALOG/fm_txvrs/2800.html), click on the link and you'll see just how affordable it is.  I got this radio with everything I needed to hook it up in my Jeep, plus a 3db gain antenna for less than $200.  I can hit repeaters 30-50 miles away with this radio & I live in hilly country.  Odds are you can do even better in a flat area.

You want a tower, Check out this thread (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=986.msg9965#msg9965).  Mount this thing anywhere & however your imagination can lead you, get some coax, hook up the same mobile unit I'm using & you're in business.

HAM radio can be expensive, but it certainly doesn't have to be.  Seriously, we're talking about information here, information is everything.

Here are some free study resources.  Now no one here has an excuse...get to it.
Mr. Pugsly's free Technician & General Class Exam Notes (https://home.comcast.net/~misterpugsly/index.html)  Print 'em, study 'em & carry 'em with you.
QRZ Practice Exams (http://www.qrz.com/p/testing.pl)  These are free & are the exact same questions you'll take to get your ticket. (No excuses)
The American Radio Relay League (http://www.arrl.org/)  The mother organization of all HAM radiodom.  Anything you could possibly want to know, you'll find a resource here to point you in the right direction.

This goes for you too Spirko!

+1 to you Bailey for being a HAM nazi. ;D

Oh, BTW I'm the new president of the Zombie Squad Amateur Radio Club (ZSARC).  It's a new club & we're just getting started, but check out our communications forum Here (http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=42&sid=c78adaf8edcac7726b8220d343f6292b), so I have a vested interest in spreading the HAM radio word.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 26, 2008, 11:51:50 PM
Ham radios would be great.  Cost is a problem (base station) Tower might be a problem also. (Renting your home, town regulations, etc.)
CB's also a good idea. (In fact, my son is talking on his base right now.)

I would really like to get into Hams, tho.  I would also like to learn Morse, although, as I understand it, it isn't used much anymore - and not required.

   Flagtag you do not need a tower, if costs are a factor find a club who will help you out. It is an old mans sport and they are trying to keep it alive, I guarantee they will help you out. CB is Ok, but 2 meter for line of sight stuff is unbeatable. A couple of HT's and a mobile in your BOV will work miracles for you. If you have a 2 meter repeater in your area it will increase your range and a NET operator during an emergency will control radio traffic( kinda of like a dispatcher). CB's don't have repeaters or NET controllers.
  They have removed Morse code requirements, but if you want to learn it all the better... Have a safe holiday
  
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: 19kilo on November 27, 2008, 01:51:11 AM
Is there a class for toal noobs who don't know the first thing about HAM?
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 27, 2008, 02:12:10 AM
OK. you have me convinced.. Taking practice tests... now...

Archer you Rock!!!
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 27, 2008, 02:18:13 AM
Is there a class for toal noobs who don't know the first thing about HAM?

19Kilo If you can look up ham radio clubs in your area. Gotta sleep now,but I'll talk with ya more about it...
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: firetoad on November 27, 2008, 08:12:35 AM
Well, now you all up and went and got me interested in getting a license.  My wife and my pocketbook thank you all!   ;)

Here is a pretty good resource (http://www.rtsi.com/~HRInstructor/Technician/) for studying that I found last night.  Already started studying!  I am shooting for a local test on the 17th of December. 
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Tycoon on November 27, 2008, 09:54:11 AM
Just to help clarify a little more, if you want to believe me great. if you wanna take the time to search it yourself it won't hurt my feelings either....

112 - I wouldn't even bother.  >:( If your in the US, 911 is your best bet. In Europe they use 112 like our 911. If your cellphone has no service, it has no service - period.

codes to unlock battery life - nope...  >:( The code mentioned in the OP is for an old Nokia model that allowed you to make the phone call sound crappier than normal but use less power to make the call so the battery would last longer. The biggest problem with that is that it has to be supported on both ends. MOST of the cell carriers in the US do not have it enabled because they get enough complaints about the call quality as it is. There are a ton of codes that work on a lot of different phones, most of them can cause you to break your phone too if used incorrectly so best to stay away from them.

Unlock the car doors - No again.  >:( your key fob is a RF transmitter probably up in the VHF (99.992% are nowadays) That just won't work thru a phone call, Now you can hold the key fob up to your chin or head and you will get a few more feet of range out of it because it uses your bones as a radiator for the RF, same principle as clearing the static from your rabbit ears with your fingers.

forget what the 4th one was, stolen phone maybe?  ::) yea just write down your account number and phone number to the cell phone company. they already know exactly what phone you are using that was just stolen. that's how they bill you so they know how to find the phone in the system.

411 - yes, we have a winner!  ;D There are several you can call without having the 411 fee (you still have to pay for the phone call minutes like any other call unless you have unlimited minutes)
A few of the better ones are 1-800-466-4411 which is googles baby. You can only get business listings though right now. 1-800-373-3411 is good too, you have to listen to a 10 or 15 second advertisement before you get the number you want.

Hope this helps some... If you didn't guess, i have to deal with cellphones all day long...
Jeff

Hehh, thanks for the clarification Jeff.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: flagtag on November 27, 2008, 04:22:59 PM
Thanks Delta, Bailey, and firetoad.

I put all the links in my "Favorites" so that I can refer back to them. 

About a year ago, I ordered an educational disk and book for Morse Code, but haven't practiced it much.  It's a shame - in a way - that "they' did away with it. I like the idea of "talking" to someone without someone else knowing what "we" are saying to each other.  Not many people know Morse Code. (Like me.  :()
Listening to the tones, I was able to remember what some of them (letters/words) meant, but I couldn't figure out how to "send" and know if I was doing it right.  I needed some kind of device that would "record" the letters/words that I was "sending", so that I could review it.
Figures: I get interested in an "art" and it "croaks"!  :'(
Delta: You are right - the cost isn't too bad. I didn't know that the radios could be used in vehicles. (I lead a "sheltered" life.  :D) I really like that idea!  ;D

Thanks again everyone!
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Dan on November 28, 2008, 01:07:25 AM
    Ham licenses cost $14 for life, it takes a 35 question test that you can miss up to 9 of them. That's it, bingo your a ham. There is absolutely no reason every one on here shouldn't have a ticket. 
Okay, you talked me into it. I did the eham.net technician test and without studying passed it four out of five times, it's really not as bad as I thought it would be. I guess maybe I did retain some of that stuff I learned in phisics class.  ;D

There is a test on the 10th that gives me time to study and do some more test exams heck I will probably be licensed within a few weeks!  :)
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Beetle on November 28, 2008, 09:27:25 AM
    Ham licenses cost $14 for life, it takes a 35 question test that you can miss up to 9 of them. That's it, bingo your a ham. There is absolutely no reason every one on here shouldn't have a ticket. 
Okay, you talked me into it. I did the eham.net technician test and without studying passed it four out of five times, it's really not as bad as I thought it would be. I guess maybe I did retain some of that stuff I learned in phisics class.  ;D

There is a test on the 10th that gives me time to study and do some more test exams heck I will probably be licensed within a few weeks!  :)

That is way cool.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on November 28, 2008, 01:12:33 PM
Thanks Delta, Bailey, and firetoad.

Delta: You are right - the cost isn't too bad. I didn't know that the radios could be used in vehicles. (I lead a "sheltered" life.  :D) I really like that idea!  ;D

Thanks again everyone!

Hey flagtag, here's a couple of pics of my setup in my Cherokee.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n14/OzarkRamblr/HAM%20Stuff/IMG_1604.jpg)
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n14/OzarkRamblr/HAM%20Stuff/IMG_1603.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: ColdHaven on November 28, 2008, 01:19:16 PM
I have an old Johnson in my Jeep Cherokee. Still trying to find a good place to put it since when they designed the Jeep, they did not have CBs or people who drink in mind. There seems to be no room for a CB setup or cupholders...  >:(
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: flagtag on November 28, 2008, 01:36:15 PM
That's pretty cool! Convenient.  Do you have any trouble with leaks? Where is your antenna?
Would a CB antenna interfer with the Ham?
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on November 28, 2008, 04:29:23 PM
I have an old Johnson in my Jeep Cherokee. Still trying to find a good place to put it since when they designed the Jeep, they did not have CBs or people who drink in mind. There seems to be no room for a CB setup or cupholders...  >:(

That's pretty cool! Convenient.  Do you have any trouble with leaks? Where is your antenna?
Would a CB antenna interfer with the Ham?
I answered your questions inThe Communications Forum (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=1266.0) instead of continuing to hijack this thread.

Check it out. 
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: flagtag on November 28, 2008, 04:43:43 PM
Great!  Thanks for the step by step.  (With pics. :))
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: sludgy_nixer on November 29, 2008, 11:00:21 PM
if it wasn't for my job, i'd take my cell out in the woods and dial 76239 with it. the best usage i've ever gotten out of it
was at a music festival when i scored big points with the ladies for letting them used it as a flashlight in the porta johns!! ;D 8)

also, if i might add a #6 to the list that a cell phone can do...CAUSE TUMORS!

great suggestions/info on the ham stuff guys. i'm taking a more serious look now.
Title: Re: 5 Things You Didn't Know Your Cell Phone Could Do
Post by: Taylor3006 on November 29, 2008, 11:13:48 PM
Castle Doctrine baby!!  Castle Doctrine!!  Ohio is slowly getting better.

The recently passed "Castle Doctrine" in Texas was really silly. The law was very clear when a person had the right to use deadly force and had been this was since Republic days. It has never been "legal" to kill another person in Texas, what the law said was there was a "defense" to the exception of the law. Even LEO's could not "legally" kill someone. It was a defense that they shot the person to save their own life, the life of another, etc. What happened in these cases is that the county attorney would review the case and decide if it was possible that the defense was not justified. If he decided that it was possible the defense case was "iffy" then he would take it to the Grand Jury for review. If they decided that the "defense" clause was doubtful they would ask charges be brought. What the "Castle Doctrine" did in Texas was to make it "legal" to use deadly force under the exact same circumstances the "defense" clauses did. Just silly legislation because the procedure still is reviewed by the county attorney and the Grand Jury in most cases (IMHO as a "cover yer ass procedure"). I laughed my ass off when some moron state representative introduced legislation to say a Texan could use deadly force to prevent a car jacking. In Texas you could always use deadly force to protect your property even if it was a stick of gum of yours being stolen. Here it is "much ado about nothing" but am glad some of the other states are getting on board with what in Texas has always been the case. You commit a crime against person OR property in Texas, you have a real possibility of getting a bullet for your trouble.