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Title: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on June 28, 2010, 11:38:12 AM
Just getting some insight here.  I know everybody is different, but I'm interested in hearing the ladies' view on this.

Do you carry a handgun?  If you do, WHAT do you carry?  What helped you choose your weapon?

I'm getting my CHL this next month, and am strongly considering a Springfield XD, but the only handguns I have handled have been Smith & Wesson .38 revolver, my hubby's Glock .40 cal, and his Rueger 22...

PS - I'll be RENTING a Springfield in the next week or so, FYI.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: CBP on June 28, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
I conceal carry a Bersa 380.   I don't carry a purse, so this one seemed to fit the bill for me in a holster clipped to the waistband of my jeans -- doesn't bang me in the ribs like my full frame guns do.  It was also priced right for the money I had at the time. 
Jack had a question on the podcast regarding a carry gun for a wife, as her Bersa was jamming.   Mine never has jammed, ever.  And I might be mistaken on what I heard, but I thought Jack said he owned a couple of them.  (#442)  Eventually, I'd like a few more rounds in a carry gun. . . . maybe a Taurus 24/7. 

The XD is a nice weapon, a friend of mine just got one.   I looked into them too -- not to carry -- but just to have!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: MediumFrenchFry on June 30, 2010, 09:28:31 AM
I'm glad you opened this thread, i was just wondering the same thing!

I got my CCW about a month ago. I'm originally from France, so this is all really new to me. I've been shooting and practicing for a year and a half, so i'm still learning and trying out different things.

I have been carrying a Kel Tec P11 (9mm), in a CCW purse. It's a good defense gun although it is quite hard to tame (at least at first for me, im a tiny frame and weigh 110pounds) . It doesn't really have any safety besides  a 9pound trigger, it's loud and kicks quite a bit. I am getting more and more comfortable with it, but i' definitely trying out other things. I've recently tried the .38 Ruger LCR Revolver. Quite enjoyed it, light weight, easier to shoot, smaller and def easier to conceal. I like 9mm Glocks too, although they're pretty big. So maybe a baby Glock?

Do you ladies prefer to carry in a purse or in a holster on you?

Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: OKGranny on July 01, 2010, 12:21:16 AM
I carry a .38 Ruger revolver. I just prefer revolvers. If I'm taking a purse I carry it in that, otherwise it's in a holster.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LandShark on July 01, 2010, 07:15:18 AM
My 4'11" 115 lbs wife loves her Ruger LCP and carrys it in a Desantis Superfly in the cellphone pocket of her purse (that never leaves her arm). She likes it because she can walk with her hand on it and know one really notices.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: ZenGunFighter on July 01, 2010, 11:03:47 AM
If the pistol isn't ON you, you don't have true control over it.
Purse or bag carry is not a great idea for a number of reasons.

There are SO many good options out there for small, reliable, reasonably powerful guns out there, that there is no reason NOT to have the pistol ON you.

I'd look at the Kahr PM9. Very carriable/concealable, yet ergonomic, simple, reliable and reasonably powerful.

I'm not a big fan of .380, until I had a Ruger LCP in my last 2 day gunfighting class. The gun is so slim! yet reliable and accurate.

The Springfield XD is a good gun, but it is chunky/clunky and not easy to conceal for the average woman.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on July 01, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
Feel free to keep posting on this one folks...I'm really enjoying the responses.

I am, most definitely, the definition of the "average woman".  5'4", 150# (give or take).

DH's Glock, while I am a reasonably good aim with it, is NOT my first choice.  He says it is a "full frame", so it's rather large.  My arm got pretty tired going through just 4 clips of ammo.  Also, there would be no GOOD way I could conceal carry it, unless I tucked it at my back somehow.  I'm limber enough to get at it, but it would be - interesting.

Specifically ladies, if you are "average" AND have small hands, I am particularly interested.  I have long fingers, but small palms, and am finding I have the weakest hands on the planet (which I have begun working on).
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: OKGranny on July 01, 2010, 12:27:11 PM
I'm 5'3" and weigh just a bit less than you and I have no strength in my hands due to arthritis and carpal tunnel. I can use the baby glock easily and my revolver.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: PAprepared on July 01, 2010, 12:33:18 PM
I am planning on getting my Medium Fry into one of these very soon... after convincing her to start carrying the LCR.
review of a Crossbreed Supertuck IWB holster for Ruger LCR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCQ0NHX0RTo#normal)

Zen is right, i feel the same away about off body carry. But lets face it, most women carry a purse, thats why it makes sense for them to carry that way. But I feel if thats your only way to carry, you should practice drawing out of the bag as much as possible. Do it at home with snap caps or other safety training ammo.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: CBP on July 01, 2010, 03:14:36 PM
If the pistol isn't ON you, you don't have true control over it.
Purse or bag carry is not a great idea for a number of reasons.



That's exactly what's always worried me -- getting distracted in the grocery store, etc.  or having to operate "one-handed" while I'm carrying around a purse (there seriously isn't enough room in them to hold all the spackling anyway :).  I'm 5-6/150 and have no problem handling a large frame, bigger bore gun --- but putting them in a holster on my side is another story.  If all else fails, I opt for a fanny pack worn just slightly forward of my left side.   I think conifidence in your ability to shoot the gun you choose well is most important of all.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: jpommer on July 01, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
I have opinions, if invited to the ladies' treehouse.  :)
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: monkeyboyf on July 01, 2010, 07:48:57 PM
I have opinions, if invited to the ladies' treehouse.  :)
Come right in. ;D
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: OKGranny on July 02, 2010, 12:34:38 AM
I have opinions, if invited to the ladies' treehouse.  :)

I'm pretty sure the "No Boyz allowed" sign blew away a long time ago.  :D
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: jpommer on July 02, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
Thanks! ;D   As shown by the young lady in the video above, it's easier than you think to have it on your body and well hidden. A good holster is a must. Which gun is important for how well you can use it, but for concealment it's all about the holster or whatever system you choose.

I'm not a fan of purse holsters for one reason. Purse snatchers. A thug runs past you at top speed and grabs your bag, breaks the shoulder strap and just keeps going. Now he has your wallet, your ID with your home address on it, the keys to your house... oh yeah, and a loaded gun. Might as well have a written invitation in there too. Of course that's just one possibility that is as remote as any other, but you can't say it won't ever happen.

And you don't have to wear a thick belt and pants all the time either. There are other options like the belly-band or SmartCarry that will work under a skirt or shorts. And they work very well.

Smartcarry Holster (For Women) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u_zrihHzHA#normal)

Think about how you normally dress, and how much of your wardrobe you are willing to compromise on. Select your carry method accordingly. But above all, carry! All the time! Some folks don't, just occasionally. It makes me wonder how they know that they might need a gun that day. If I'm expecting trouble, I'm just gonna stay home that day.

Now all that said, I'm a man. I'm shaped differently, my clothes are different, and despite my inflated self-opinion I don't have the opposite sex checking me out every time I leave the house. I don't have the same challenges that you do. So, take what I say and allow me to refer you to:

http://corneredcat.com (http://corneredcat.com)

That gal really knows her stuff.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: jpommer on July 02, 2010, 09:38:42 AM
Oh, one last thing. The Bersa .380 is an excellent gun for the price. I have one that has been very reliable. There are smaller .380's that are harder to control and more prone to jamming (hearsay, don't own one), but are easier to conceal. I'd look at the five shot .38 revolvers too, like the gal in the first video up there.

But allow yourself to choose for yourself, based on what feels most natural in your hand... the one that you can shoot well.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: the-gman on July 02, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
I carry in TN. I have two modes Winter and Summer. Winter a Bersa 9mm. Summer a Kel-tec P3AT or Bersa Thunder .380. I chose these after many hours at the range renting indivdual guns. I like the way they shoot and the cost.
The GMAN

For those that will fight for it....Freedom...has a flavor the protected shall never know". - L/Cpl Edwin L. Craft, B Co. 3rd AT's, Khe Sahn Combat Base, February 1968(Viet Nam)
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Mako on July 03, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
I have the Ruger LCP and highly recommend it.  It easily slides into any pocket and is so light you can all but forget it's there.  I have put 1,000 rounds through mine already, and only had problems with Herter's steel case and some hollow-points loading.  I'm going to carefully sand the barrel feed ramp and I think this should take care of it.

Some of the loads are comparable to 9mm rounds, especially the 95 gr. PDX1 JHP (jacketed hollow point) bonded. I haven't had a single problem with the 95 gr. Fiocchi ammo, which encompassed a majority of the 1,000 rounds I've put through it (great training round.  Often $17 for 50 rounds)

She is a little spicy, but I like a girl with a touch of attitude.  It's mostly in your posture/structure and you get used to it, no problem.  The handle is too short for the pinky to fit around it, but a simple clip mod gives a place for the pinky to rest against, curled in (it usually sells with at least one of these).

There is no safety on the gun, but it has a long trigger pull.  Maybe 7 lbs. This loosens up and smooths out after a while, and you get used to it too (my finger did hurt a little after the first 150 rounds).  This makes it safe to carry "hot" however, and I find that the overall simplicity, efficiency and reliability of the firearm, coupled with a good self defense load makes for an ideal concealed carry.  And as Zen said, it's the firearm you have on you, and I have no problem carrying this running, biking, shopping, whatever.  I'd definitely recommend it to my girlfriend (if I had one.........).

Seen it in black, metal/silver, and pink.  HTH!

http://ruger.com/products/lcp/features.html (http://ruger.com/products/lcp/features.html)

Mako
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LupaWolf on July 03, 2010, 01:57:41 PM
I too have arthritis and extensive nerve damage from carpel tunnel... i carry a revolver.  I cannot always work the slide on the glock.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: ZenGunFighter on July 03, 2010, 02:31:04 PM
I too have arthritis and extensive nerve damage from carpel tunnel... i carry a revolver.  I cannot always work the slide on the glock.

How do you handle the long heavy trigger pull? Do you cock the hammer? or are you able to deal with the DA trigger?

If you carry a round in the chamber, you don't have to worry about racking the slide :)
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LupaWolf on July 03, 2010, 03:07:43 PM
I have a couple different techniques for cocking the hammer during dexterity failure, and I find the DA on the Cobra to be quite smooth.  The recoil is also specific and does not cause pain after 3 shots like many hand guns do.

the glock would still need to be loaded... by me... i am not always able to pull it off, so it is not a reliable option for me.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: OKGranny on July 03, 2010, 04:52:03 PM
That's why the baby glock is mostly for target practice when my hands are behaving and my always carry is a revolver. I feel better with something I can always handle, no matter how bad the hands are acting up.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: monkeyboyf on July 03, 2010, 09:55:54 PM
It's hell to get old,huh? Would have taken better care of my hands if I'd known how bad I want a Glock 9mm. Have a sweet little S&W 38 special I carry, just depend on the 5 shot and a speedloader. Need to get some more.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on July 07, 2010, 02:50:04 PM
OK...so I rented the Springfield XD 9mm and shot 100 rounds on Monday.  I was really surprised that I was a better shot right off the bat with my DH's Glock.  I got the hang of it before I was out of rounds, but I don't know if I like it or not.  Arm/shoulder got really tired fast with the DH's Glock, but I was ok at the end of the session with the Springfield.

We also saw a REALLY PRETTY Kahr 9mm while we were there.

Ladies, here's another set of questions...Did you buy and get used to your gun?  Did you try several THEN buy?

Guys, feel free to chime in too.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: OKGranny on July 08, 2010, 02:15:16 AM
I grew up with guns and was shooting at targets before I was out of grade school and my first husband was a gun collector so I have to say I used several and then bought.

Monkeyboyf- yes it is heck to get old and realize you shouldn't have been so hard on your body when you were younger. My hands are especially annoying though.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: TwoBluesMama on July 08, 2010, 08:31:23 AM
I just had to chime in that you ladies rock!  It seems like all the other ladies I know (except 1) are into shoes, clothes, hair and nails.  Not that there is anything really wrong with that stuff but I "get" guns better.  You gals are awesome - thanks Ann for starting the thread.  I carry a S&W .38 revolver that I love.  And I too have severe arthritis and can't pull a slide to save my butt but am proficient with my little revolver and a speed strip. Thanks ladies for the smiles.  Blessings TBM
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: endurance on July 08, 2010, 08:46:34 AM
I have both the Kahr PM9 and the Springfield XD and there's no question that if I could only own one handgun, it would be the Kahr because it's just so small, light, and easy to carry anywhere.  It's remarkably accurate for the barrel length, but it does have a fair kick to it because of the weight.  Also, the magazines don't hold their bullets if you just have them loose in a pocket (but are just fine in the gun or in a magazine carrier.  I've just never had a magazine drop half it's capacity into my pocket on a 20 minute walk like the Kahr magazines do).

In a perfect world, I'd say get both.  You're not going to get proficient on a Kahr because you can't shoot 50-100 rounds at a time through it without your hands feeling very tired.  I generally go to the range once or twice a month, shoot 100-150 rounds through my XD, then finish off with 2-3 magazines through the Kahr.  I want to remain familiar with it, but the trigger squeeze and sight picture (I have Trijicon sights on both) are very similar to the XD, so I'm maintaining my skills without beating myself up or wearing out a gun that probably only has a 5000 round lifespan (a Kahr might last 5% as long as an XD, but from my experience, both are just as reliable).  There are also times when you might want more capacity and a better handling weapon and the XD has great manners.  The Kahr is a bit more abrupt, some might even say rude. ;)
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: MediumFrenchFry on July 09, 2010, 12:08:31 PM
I just had to chime in that you ladies rock!  It seems like all the other ladies I know (except 1) are into shoes, clothes, hair and nails.  Not that there is anything really wrong with that stuff but I "get" guns better.  You gals are awesome -

Right back at  you TBM, i feel the same way  ;D

My husband bought our first 9mm and i learned to adapt to it. I had no other choice but to adapt and try it out since i had never been around guns up until that day.
Now that i've shot and tried different guns though, i know what I like and what to look for, accordingly to my body type, hand size and shooting comfort...etc. I'm seriously leaning toward the .38 Ruger as my next gun and want to start carrying on me. Kinda want to pick the gun instead of letting it pick me loool  ::)
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: betywilson on July 14, 2010, 07:36:59 PM
I have 2 carry modes too.  Winter and Summer.  I carry either a Glock 27 in a Don Hume inside the pants (shorts) leather holster or a Springfield XD Subcompact 40 in a Don Hume leather holster for my summer attire.  During winter, I use the Blackhawk holsters.  I love the Blackhawk holsters. 
What's a purse???
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on July 15, 2010, 11:00:00 AM
Hmmm...much to consider.  I had NO IDEA about the Kahr having issues with losing ammo out of the magazine.  That is unfortunate.  It could also be a serious disadvantage if I were to feel it necessary to count on those bullets.

I think I could easily get used to the Springfield XD, although I found myself getting tired from gripping the back.  I probaby don't have to grip it THAT hard to engage the safety mechanism.  I was thinking the Kahr would be for concealed carry, because the Springfield seemed a little large.  Granted, not like the hubby's Glock 40 cal (no, don't ask me model, not that smart yet).

Sigh...I like the Springfield, but that Kahr was AWEFULLY pretty.

Purses - something to throw at a thug while you're pulling your gun?  I use my lunchbox to carry my lipstick.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on July 15, 2010, 11:02:06 AM
I just had to chime in that you ladies rock!  It seems like all the other ladies I know (except 1) are into shoes, clothes, hair and nails.  Not that there is anything really wrong with that stuff but I "get" guns better.  You gals are awesome - thanks Ann for starting the thread.  I carry a S&W .38 revolver that I love.  And I too have severe arthritis and can't pull a slide to save my butt but am proficient with my little revolver and a speed strip. Thanks ladies for the smiles.  Blessings TBM

Thank you TBM!  I had a feeling that if I wanted women's advice on this, there would be no better place to ask!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LadyRebekah67 on July 15, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
I prefer revolvers, (.38) but currently carry a small 380 in a little clippy holster in my bra, above left one, almost under arm.  Since I'm a cabbie, I have certain close quarter issues and it's more reachable there with seat belts, clothing and seated position issues.  In summer, with less clothing requirements, I opt for a small ankle holster on inside of left leg.  Easily reached with either hand, even while still seated, buckled and rolling.  Also within just my own reach are a foldy Ka-bar, locked open, and a tazer.  The tazer is always plan #1.  But in the end, it's easier to convince 12 people that I made the right choice, if I'm currently BREATHING.

And no, before anyone suggests that I get a bulletproof cab, I really don't like the cop partitions.  I'd rather just avoid potential issues with door locks.  If it walks like a banger, talks like a banger, dresses like a banger, and is located near other bangers, it doesn't get in in the first place.  So far, 9 years with no major issues.  Guess that female intuition really does work.  ;)
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Periwinkle on July 16, 2010, 06:32:18 PM
I can't carry a purse due to a pinched nerve in my neck.  So I carry a fanny pack with a Bersa 380.  If I'm wearing jeans though, I might carry my Keltec 32 instead.  I'd love to try one of those smart carry bands sometime and see how they feel.  My hubby uses that from time to time and he is fine with it.  I also carry a knife in my pocket and on occasion I have pepper spray with me.  My hubby likes me to carry some of everything, but if I carried everything he wanted me to, I'd no longer look like a girl and I'd be weighted down a bit.  *G*
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LvsChant on July 18, 2010, 03:46:30 PM
I'm looking at this shoulder holster (recommended by Goatdog):

(http://castraponere.com/tsppix/miamijackass.jpg)

The Jackass is the original model (but isn't available for my handgun model), but the Miami classic is pretty close to it. This one also comes recommended by Sister Wolf.
It is made by Galco, but you can find it on ebay for about $30 less than direct from the manufacturer (go figure).
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on July 19, 2010, 02:51:17 PM
Sigh - going to have to wait on the carry rig until I actually have the weapon.  One step at a time.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: TwoBluesMama on July 19, 2010, 04:57:38 PM
  My hubby likes me to carry some of everything, but if I carried everything he wanted me to, I'd no longer look like a girl and I'd be weighted down a bit.  *G*


LMAO - Peri I CAN so relate.  As I am leaving the house the conversation goes like this:   Husband: Do you have your gun? Me: Yes dear. Husband: Do you have enough ammo? Me: Yes dear.  Husband: How much.  Me: Enough that I'm lopsided. Husband: Do you have your pepper spray? Me: Yes Dear. Husband:  Do you have the knife I gave you?  Me: Yes dear.  Husband:  Okay be safe.  Me: Yes dear. 

If he could I'd have a couple of bazookas, grenade launcher and a least 3 neck knives while wearing bullet proof clothing as I leave.  Ah it's so nice to be loved.  Our sweet survivalist men are too cute.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Dylboz on July 19, 2010, 07:22:26 PM
I was looking for a .38 snubby, but then I read this:

Why Not Carry the Big Gun? (http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/07/why_not_carry_the_big_gun_by_s.html)

It changed my POV. Mind you, I'm 6'2" and 200 lbs (down from 220, thank you Primal Blueprint!), so it isn't as big an issue as it would be if I were a petite woman, but still. I'm going to try and find the best rig for my full size semi-auto, and see how that goes before investing in a new smaller pistol or revolver (I really like revolvers, though). It's off the gun show next week to see what I can find! I'll let you guys know if I get something good.

BTW - LvsChant, I have a nylon shoulder rig that is very similar to those leather ones you've got pictured (certainly not as nice, but the layout's roughly the same). I got it at the Army surplus store, and I wear it when I'm out camping and hunting so as not to interfere with all the stuff I carry in my lumbar pack, and I like it very much, especially since it doesn't pull my pants down like a holster and 3 magazine pouches does. But when I tried out concealment with it, the results were really unsatisfactory. I live in a hot place, so no one wears big jackets (or jackets at all, really) and a regular long sleeve shirt over top of it just didn't look right.


Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LvsChant on July 19, 2010, 07:58:15 PM
I was looking for a .38 snubby, but then I read this:

Why Not Carry the Big Gun? (http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/07/why_not_carry_the_big_gun_by_s.html)

It changed my POV. Mind you, I'm 6'2" and 200 lbs (down from 220, thank you Primal Blueprint!), so it isn't as big an issue as it would be if I were a petite woman, but still. I'm going to try and find the best rig for my full size semi-auto, and see how that goes before investing in a new smaller pistol or revolver (I really like revolvers, though). It's off the gun show next week to see what I can find! I'll let you guys know if I get something good.

BTW - LvsChant, I have a nylon shoulder rig that is very similar to those leather ones you've got pictured (certainly not as nice, but the layout's roughly the same). I got it at the Army surplus store, and I wear it when I'm out camping and hunting so as not to interfere with all the stuff I carry in my lumbar pack, and I like it very much, especially since it doesn't pull my pants down like a holster and 3 magazine pouches does. But when I tried out concealment with it, the results were really unsatisfactory. I live in a hot place, so no one wears big jackets (or jackets at all, really) and a regular long sleeve shirt over top of it just didn't look right.



Thanks for the input, Dylboz. I think it is really hard to decide... I'll have to try out several different things, I'm thinking, before I find the perfect fit. You're in AZ, iirc? You're right... it's very hot out there.
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Post by: Periwinkle on July 20, 2010, 07:36:04 PM
LMAO - Peri I CAN so relate.  As I am leaving the house the conversation goes like this:   Husband: Do you have your gun? Me: Yes dear. Husband: Do you have enough ammo? Me: Yes dear.  Husband: How much.  Me: Enough that I'm lopsided. Husband: Do you have your pepper spray? Me: Yes Dear. Husband:  Do you have the knife I gave you?  Me: Yes dear.  Husband:  Okay be safe.  Me: Yes dear. 

If he could I'd have a couple of bazookas, grenade launcher and a least 3 neck knives while wearing bullet proof clothing as I leave.  Ah it's so nice to be loved.  Our sweet survivalist men are too cute.
*LOL*  Yep, I know what you mean.  My problem is that I have a pinched nerve in my neck, so I can't carry a purse ~ I have to use a fanny pack.  So......I got my gun and ammo in the pack, then a knife in my right pocket and a knife on my left hip; my pepper spray on my key ring that hangs off the right side of my fanny pack, AND he wants me to carry a small flashlight holstered on my belt.  Okay at this point, i have no real hips or shape ~ instead I have these assorted bulges here and there.  I am no longer looking female at this point.........instead I'm looking like a soldier of sorts.  But hey, maybe that alone will protect me.  *G*

However, I've told my hubby that with all this stuff on me, if something happens and I need to react, I'll probably be confused and grab the wrong thing first.  So when the police come and draw a chalk outline around me, they'll all stand around looking down over me and one officer will say "wow, she had all those weapons and gear on her, but she's dead anyway".   :o
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: EmmaPeel on July 22, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
I carry a revolver - S&W Airweight .38spl.  I love the gun.  It is in a nice leather holster on my waist all day, everyday.  I compete nearly weekly in different action pistol competitions.  The holster is as important as the gun.  Don't skimp!  You will not wear it all day if it's not comfortable.  You'll skip a day because you're cranky and comfort seems like a better alternative than carrying the gun in the uncomfortable holster.  Then the next weeks that happens two days and so on.  Before long, you're not carrying it. 

My advice is find the gun You are comfortable shooting (preferably something above a .32 but anything that works for you is better than nothing).  Then find a holster than you like A Lot.  This may be difficult and you may be tossing a $100 holster in a drawer cause it didn't work.  Remember, you can sell it.  Just becaues it didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for someone else.  Then, after you've got the gun and the holster, find the clothes to cover it.   This can be the most challenging part believe it or not.  And, if you're like me, the most painful part.  I'll spend $500 on a gun, $100 on a holster and cry at spending $40 on a nice jacket or top to cover the gun.  However, after years of doing this, I'm finally realizing that the more I enjoy the clothes I wear over my gun, the less concious I am it's there which means it's more comfortable and less likely to be left home.  Wear your gun when trying on clothes.  I can't tell you how many times I left my gun lying on the dressing room stool as I changed in and out of outfits only to get home and discover that shirt or jacket was too short to cover the end of the gun. 
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: endurance on July 22, 2010, 04:47:47 PM
Wear your gun when trying on clothes.  I can't tell you how many times I left my gun lying on the dressing room stool as I changed in and out of outfits only to get home and discover that shirt or jacket was too short to cover the end of the gun. 
That's great advice!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on July 28, 2010, 10:46:37 AM
Sigh - I risk losing my job if I carry at work.  I will only be able to carry on personal time.  I work for a city government, and the handbook states plainly that weapons are not allowed in the work place.

Many of the clothes that I currently own won't conceal anything.  I don't wear things skin tight, but I like them to fit.  I guess I'll have to go shopping for clothes when I start carrying...dangit.

I have a laundry list of stuff I want...like a solar oven, a grain mill, a water pump, more food grade barrels for water, solar panels for the house, a new mattress.  I don't want to have to buy new and different clothes...(whine) - ok, I'm done now.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LvsChant on July 28, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
I feel your pain, Ann :) I tried my pistol with my new holster and it was very obvious with most of my clothes. That being said, I am still very happy with the holster and will just have to figure out some creative ideas (maybe vests, bulkier jackets for winter, etc.) I'm also thinking an ankle holster wouldn't be a bad thing since many of my pants have pretty loose legs at the bottom.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: endurance on July 29, 2010, 01:32:30 PM
Winter is definitely easier than summer.  Even a light wind jacket does a more than adequate job of concealing, then there's the comfortable sweaters that would hide a bazooka.  Summer has none of those options.  You really need to base what you wear around your gun.  It is a bummer. 

I did recently find a pair of shorts with a zippered pocket on the thigh that holds my PM9 like it was made for it.  Need to pick up a few more pair; they make up a disproportionate part of my wardrobe now.
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Post by: CandyBabyE on July 30, 2010, 07:09:14 AM
Hi Ann,

I live in So.PRK so getting a CCW is difficult and at the whim of the county sherrif, but I do carry open when I'm at my ranch. We have Mountain Lions there and I've seen packs of both 4 legged and 2 legged coyotes in my creek bed, so I always have my sidearm with me. I carry a Baby Desert Eagle (hence my tag) 9mm.  When my kids go with me, girl 19 and boy 15, they carry as well. She carries a .22 revolver (working on getting her a 9mm CZ 75 with a .22 conversion kit) and my son carries a Browning High Power 9mm. 

If any one out there lives in the IE and has their CCW. Can you tell me how difficult it was to get. I've taken the CCW class and they made it sound very difficult to justify "need" in this county. I'm currently working on getting my NRA instructors certification with might be of help since I will then be transporting firearms for our firearms school.

It's really great to be able to connect with so many like minded people instead of the ones who think I'm nuts. ;D

Candy
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on August 02, 2010, 11:03:26 AM
Candy...we're all nuts here too, but we're the GOOD nuts.  And we'll be the ones to survive if things go to hell in a handbasket.

Don't worry about talking or asking ANYTHING in this group.  Opinions may differ, but everybody is respectful of everybody else's opinion.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: LvsChant on August 02, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
I've been working with my shoulder holster... it is getting more and more broken in to the shape of the pistol... happy days!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: OKGranny on August 02, 2010, 07:57:52 PM
It seems to me like it takes time for any holster to fit you and the gun, even ones that were comfortable at first get better when everything is broken in.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: jpommer on August 03, 2010, 01:49:47 PM
I've been working with my shoulder holster... it is getting more and more broken in to the shape of the pistol... happy days!

Would you mind posting a picture of it on? I've been curious about how well it works for you.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: CandyBabyE on August 03, 2010, 03:19:37 PM
Candy...we're all nuts here too, but we're the GOOD nuts.  And we'll be the ones to survive if things go to hell in a handbasket.

Don't worry about talking or asking ANYTHING in this group.  Opinions may differ, but everybody is respectful of everybody else's opinion.

Thanks, Ann for the words of encouragement.  So glad I decided to give the forums a go. You all are terriffic.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Lara on August 20, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
I just got a Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack, and I like it.  I have a simple holster velcroed in the pocket to hold my weapon in the correct orientation for me.  I'm a leftie, so that was a big deciding factor for me in choosing this bag.  The "S" version of these bags are made for lefties.  The Maxpedition bags aren't lady-like, but they're very practical for me unless I'm going out for something fancy.  Right now, I carry the S&W 9mm, but I'm going to be getting a Glock 19 soon because it fits my hand better, and I'm more accurate with it.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: TwoBluesMama on August 21, 2010, 12:18:53 PM
I have the Maxpedition Fatboy Versipak and I love it - it's what I carry for a purse.  When I'm out of my home I wear it across my body and it is so easy to get to my gun. I know I'll hear from 20 people saying I must wear it in a holster on my body but for me this is better and I will do it.  There are times when I do wear a holster but with my messed up shoulder I don't draw as fast as I used to and can manage this better because of the position of the "purse" and inside holster.

Thanks ladies for sharing your stories - I think every woman should have her CCW permit and conceal carry. You guys rock! 
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Lara on August 21, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
TwoBluesMama, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only gal who likes the Maxpedition gear.  I finally decided to buy it because I've had the CCW permit for years, but never really carried concealed until I got the bag.  I know there are lots of other options to carry on your body, and they may be "better," but in the end, the "best" option is the one that you are comfortable with, and that you will use regularly.  I also have had plenty of shoulder problems, and for years, I didn't have the shoulder stability or internal rotation needed to carry in a lot of the usual places.  The position of the bag on my hip makes it very shoulder-friendly to use.  I forgot in the earlier post to give ample credit to Sis for letting me try her Glock 19.  Thanks! ;)

I just have to share...I had an amusing conversation this morning with an acquaintance at brunch.  My Maxpedition bag with my 9mm in it was sitting near my feet as we ate, mind you.  She said that she knew a few people who carried concealed, and she wasn't sure they were safe/sane people.  I said, well, you probably know a lot more people who carry concealed, but they just don't mention it or talk about it, so you don't know they carry.  I got a little amusement out of knowing that she had no idea I was carrying at the time...  :P
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Chemsoldier on August 21, 2010, 07:05:46 PM
Since those of the male persuasion are chiming in...

I normally carry a Glock 23 (mid-sized .40 S&W).  However of late I have been flirting with the 9mm Glock 19 (also mid-sized).  It is fantastic. The shootability of large guns while being diminutive enough to conceal.  There are a lot of great options out there.  I have carried everything from a Kel-Tec .380 to a full size Glock 10mm and there is no one right answer.  Find what you like and meets your needs.

For carry methods I cannot claim to know much about the female carry issues.  My wife uses a concealed carry friendly fanny pack. If you are going to use off the body carry I really suggest something of that type.

I highly encourage shooters of all persuasions to search through carry methods till you find something that allows you to carry a gun that is tolerable to shoot in practice.  I know a lot of micro-.380 carriers that hate shooting those little knuckle barkers.  Same with the ultra-lightweight J-Frame revolvers.  If you can stand the weight (and it isnt much) try an all steel J-Frame rather than the super airweight.  Your hand will thank you at the range.

My $.02

-Chem
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: CBP on August 22, 2010, 06:29:12 AM
I have the Maxpedition Fatboy Versipak and I love it - it's what I carry for a purse.  When I'm out of my home I wear it across my body and it is so easy to get to my gun. I know I'll hear from 20 people saying I must wear it in a holster on my body but for me this is better and I will do it.  There are times when I do wear a holster but with my messed up shoulder I don't draw as fast as I used to and can manage this better because of the position of the "purse" and inside holster.

Thanks ladies for sharing your stories - I think every woman should have her CCW permit and conceal carry. You guys rock! 

I've never looked at those bags before -- very cool!  I'm digging in the cookie jar to see if I have enough money!  A bag worn across your body is relatively secure, you can still work hands free and you don't have to put in a cart etc. 

I don't know if this has been mentioned.  Some of you ladies commented on your hands being sensitive while shooting.  My Bersa has a bit of bite to it when I practice.  I have a thin shooting glove I usually use when shotgunning and it seems to help with the handgun.  However, I've seen "exercise gloves" in the stores.  They are "leather" looking, maybe a bit padded and fingerless.  I plan on buying a set for my range bag.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: TwoBluesMama on August 22, 2010, 07:44:57 AM
I've never looked at those bags before -- very cool!  I'm digging in the cookie jar to see if I have enough money!  A bag worn across your body is relatively secure, you can still work hands free and you don't have to put in a cart etc. 

I don't know if this has been mentioned.  Some of you ladies commented on your hands being sensitive while shooting.  My Bersa has a bit of bite to it when I practice.  I have a thin shooting glove I usually use when shotgunning and it seems to help with the handgun.  However, I've seen "exercise gloves" in the stores.  They are "leather" looking, maybe a bit padded and fingerless.  I plan on buying a set for my range bag.

CBP They are kinda spendy but well worth the cost.  I've had mine about 1-1/2 years and use it everyday and it still looks new.  They wear like iron.  Not too "pretty" but I'm more concerned with practical at this point. I love all the pockets and have them loaded with all kinds of survival stuff and my sunglasses, cell phone and of course my lipstick (  ;))  I've only had one incident were a store clerk (in a trendy ladies store) wanted to put my bag (it looks so big and heavy dear - what?) behind the counter for me.  She'd have probably fainted if she knew what was in there. I politely told her no thanks and she followed me around the rest of the time.  I used to get comments from ladies at church about my bag (not really snide but more like why are you carrying that) but a few close friends know what's in it and now no one notices.  It is a great solution for me.

I thought your suggestion of a glove was a good idea.  Last time we were at the range my gun bit the skin between my thumb and forefinger  - I'm sure it was something I was doing as I hadn't noticed it doing that before now but a glove would help. Thanks for the suggestion.


And @ Lara - love your avatar - such a cute puppy.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Lara on August 22, 2010, 09:53:13 PM
That's Dakota, my baby.   ;)  She's 13 1/2 years old...and has been with me through thick and thin...  If she had thumbs, I'm sure she'd carry concealed too!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: TwoBluesMama on August 22, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
I thought about this thread today and wanted to make sure I came back and added this.  If you conceal carry in a purse, a maxpedition bag or a fanny pack - a word of caution from me and I learned it the hard way.  When you arrive home and have to carry in groceries and packages make sure you keep your gun on you as you do so.  My habit was to unlock the back door and toss my bag in on the kitchen floor and start carrying in the groceries.  One day after my normal routine of tossing the bag inside I went out and started to unload groceries from my car as a man approached me with the story of wanting to clean my carpets (he was carrying a can of Pledge dusting spray). My gun was in the house.  The Two Blues were behind the dog gate (just a few feet but not close enough).  I still had my keys and pepper spray and eventually the guy left when I told him to go or I would loose the dogs.  Now if I don't want to carry my bag I take my gun out while still in my locked car and put it in the pocket of my jeans or in the waist band of my pants.  Also a good idea in case someone is in the house when you arrive as your gun is close at hand. 
 
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: MediumFrenchFry on August 23, 2010, 12:57:40 PM
TwoBluesMama and Lara, I have a Maxpedition Fatboy aswell and couldn't agree more on it. The bag is very sturdy and looks like it won't be wearing out anytime soon. I've had many people take a strange look at it. Mainly because I'm tiny and look completely innocent so they wonder why i need to carry something so heavy duty.
I've had a guy at work tell me : "That's some solid little bag!", probably because of the big strap. It's definitely not girly, not lady-like, matter of fact, it clashes with the way i dress sometimes but I'm a tomboy anyway...but hell it's absolutely well thought for CCW. The motion to get your gun out feels natural, and by adjusting the strap, you can make sure it's at the right level.

TwoBluesMama, i hear you on the groceries tip. My Maxpedition tends to get heavy (or i tend to get tired), with the gun in,the extra clip, my "ladies" stuff and my survival stuff. Last time i loaded out the groceries, i was tempted to put my bag down. I usually have a lot of groceries bags and narrow steps to climb up before i can put them down. I ended up powering through and keeping the Maxpedition on. I figured if something happened, i'd just drop everything and be ready on my gun.

Although the Maxpedition is a brilliant bag, I am now looking to try and transition to on-body carry. I'll def keep it around, especially rather for summer time when it's harder to concel on me, than in the winter time.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on August 23, 2010, 05:18:34 PM
I have my weapon!!!  Jason and I went to the local gun show this past weekend.  There was ONE Kahr K9 in full metal and it is MINE!  Got it for a steal as well, at least compared to full retail value.  Jason got a brand new Kahr CW40.

After we got home, he was handling my gun and decided that he liked MY gun better than his...I told him he could USE my gun if necessary, but it's MINE. mineminemineminemine.

Can't wait to get some time to go to the range!  Now, I need to start looking for some type of holster.

 ;D
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Post by: LvsChant on August 23, 2010, 06:27:55 PM
Whoo-hoo! Hurray for you, Ann. (and not too bad for Jason, too :) )
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: jpommer on August 23, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
I have my weapon!!!  Jason and I went to the local gun show this past weekend.  There was ONE Kahr K9 in full metal and it is MINE!  Got it for a steal as well, at least compared to full retail value.  Jason got a brand new Kahr CW40.

After we got home, he was handling my gun and decided that he liked MY gun better than his...I told him he could USE my gun if necessary, but it's MINE. mineminemineminemine.

Can't wait to get some time to go to the range!  Now, I need to start looking for some type of holster.

 ;D

Niiiiiiiice!!!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: TwoBluesMama on August 23, 2010, 08:09:47 PM
I have my weapon!!!  Jason and I went to the local gun show this past weekend.  There was ONE Kahr K9 in full metal and it is MINE!  Got it for a steal as well, at least compared to full retail value.  Jason got a brand new Kahr CW40.

After we got home, he was handling my gun and decided that he liked MY gun better than his...I told him he could USE my gun if necessary, but it's MINE. mineminemineminemine.

Can't wait to get some time to go to the range!  Now, I need to start looking for some type of holster.

 ;D

Awesome!
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: CandyBabyE on August 23, 2010, 09:32:26 PM
Congrats!!  Now you have to pick a name for it.  ;D  Mine is Ziva.
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Post by: jpommer on August 25, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
We need photos, Ann.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on September 07, 2010, 11:58:31 AM
Life has been a little crazy here lately.  Sorry for the lack of posting.

I promise I will try to upload some photos.  I STINK at it, but I will try. <3 my new gun!

I'm also learning to shoot all over again.  Seems the smaller gun also gives me the issue of squeezing my whole hand instead of just the trigger according to the analysis chart (first time shooting new gun).
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: jpommer on September 09, 2010, 12:09:31 PM

I'm also learning to shoot all over again.  Seems the smaller gun also gives me the issue of squeezing my whole hand instead of just the trigger according to the analysis chart (first time shooting new gun).

Get some snap-caps and do a lot of dry-fire practice. It really works! You'll see the sights twitch and be able to work on the cause. Dry-firing 1000 times is every bit as effective (and cheaper) than 1000 rounds at the range for accuracy.
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Ann on September 16, 2010, 11:09:50 AM
Thanks, Jerry!!  I had not thought of that! (but then again, that's why YOU'RE teaching!)   ;D
Title: Re: Do you carry? WHAT do you carry?
Post by: Elf_1 on September 18, 2010, 09:47:26 AM
Get some snap-caps and do a lot of dry-fire practice. It really works! You'll see the sights twitch and be able to work on the cause. Dry-firing 1000 times is every bit as effective (and cheaper) than 1000 rounds at the range for accuracy.

I love these snap-cap things, thanks!  They really help.  They let you hold, load, and handle your gun without live ammo so that you are more comfortable with it when you do load the real stuff.  I also have been using them to practice with my speedloaders for my ladysmith.