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Title: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on December 03, 2010, 12:27:58 AM
AOCS Coins are available for PRE-ORDER now!!!!!!!!  WOO HOO!!!!!

They should be in by mid to late January, and of course we'll ship them out then too... barring any THEFT, of course.

Please go here: http://www.survivalpodcast.net/store/store/2010/12/02/aocs-copper-coins-pre-order/ (http://www.survivalpodcast.net/store/store/2010/12/02/aocs-copper-coins-pre-order/) to buy them.

I'm so excited!  I just can't hide it!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: gkaranov on December 04, 2010, 04:25:45 PM
Hi, i wanted to pre-order some coins. I tried to login to the TSP gear shop with my member ID and Password but it rejects my username. Do I have to register seperately for the gear shop?

Thx
ID=gkaranov
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on December 04, 2010, 06:10:24 PM
Hi, i wanted to pre-order some coins. I tried to login to the TSP gear shop with my member ID and Password but it rejects my username. Do I have to register seperately for the gear shop?

You don't need to log in at the Gear Shop to place an order.  The login is just for... uh, what is it for?  Ah, I think it's just for posting comments at the Gear Shop.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on December 04, 2010, 06:29:56 PM
Ordered!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: red123matt on December 05, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
Okay, this may sound stupid but is there a benefit to own the AOCS rounds over other silver/gold/copper rounds?  I understand the value of precious metal coinage in future currency collapse scenarios, but don't understand the attraction of AOCS coinage.  Does anyone have a link to a tutorial that can help me understand the value here?  I've been to the AOCS website but it didn't help me much as it is way to complicated for me to digest in the time I have for such things.

Thank you in advance for your help with my noobie questions:)

Matt
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on December 05, 2010, 10:00:59 PM
The super, super short version:

AOCS coins are currency.  You can spend these in stores that accept AOCS Currency.

The end.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: red123matt on December 06, 2010, 06:20:14 AM
Ok.  Do the AOCS stores have products that can't be found elsewhere, hence the need for special AOCS currency?  Or, is the idea to set-up a competing market to the greenback market?

Thanks for the perspective,
Matt
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: red123matt on December 06, 2010, 07:46:29 AM
I guess another way to look at it, at least from my perspective, is you could get ripped off at sites like this one http://www.sushob.com/copper/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=5 (http://www.sushob.com/copper/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=5) where you pay the value of 1 pound of copper for a one ounce bar/round.  They charge $5.50 for a one ounce round versus the $1 for the AOCS round.  So, in that regard the AOCS round is a heck of a deal.
Or, you can pay $3 per round if you buy the Republic of Texas rounds http://compare.ebay.com/like/120630367073?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=179975586593&crlp=1_263602_304662&UA=%3F*F%3F&GUID=bc24713512c0a0e204368176ffc9918b&itemid=120630367073&ff4=263602_304662 (http://compare.ebay.com/like/120630367073?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=179975586593&crlp=1_263602_304662&UA=%3F*F%3F&GUID=bc24713512c0a0e204368176ffc9918b&itemid=120630367073&ff4=263602_304662)

So, I think it makes some sense to me now, on the relative value of the coings.

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: red123matt on December 06, 2010, 07:57:08 AM
okay, i bought some.  i think the shipping was $1 more than advertised as i was charged $111 for a 2 x 50 coin order.  Would have thought it would be $10 for the shipping.  however, i am not worried about it.  i'll hand these out to friends and family to get them interested (inexpensively) in precious metal backed coins. 

Matt
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: BIG-TARGET on December 06, 2010, 10:09:14 AM
The super, super short version:



AOCS coins are currency.  You can spend these in stores that accept AOCS Currency.

The end.

Now,,,,for my real challenge.  Finding an "AOCS shop" in South Jersey!! ::)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on December 06, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
okay, i bought some.  i think the shipping was $1 more than advertised as i was charged $111 for a 2 x 50 coin order.  Would have thought it would be $10 for the shipping.  however, i am not worried about it.  i'll hand these out to friends and family to get them interested (inexpensively) in precious metal backed coins. 

Matt

Thank you for your order!

Just to be clear, shipping wasn't advertised as $10.00 for two orders.  If you'd ordered one pack, it would have been $5.00 for shipping.  But two packs means I have to use a "medium" priority box.  Which makes the price over $10 for me.  Gotta cover my own costs.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: red123matt on December 06, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
that' cool.  the shipping info is confusing but being a retail seller myself i understand the costs of shipping.  i think it is a great deal for shipping 6+ pounds. 
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Greywolf27 on December 09, 2010, 02:57:21 PM
Pre-ordered my 50.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Nicodemus on December 10, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
Now,,,,for my real challenge.  Finding an "AOCS shop" in South Jersey!! ::)

You can go to The AOCS Marketplace (http://golocalbuylocal.com/) and do a search by region.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Nicodemus on December 10, 2010, 02:11:38 PM
Ok.  Do the AOCS stores have products that can't be found elsewhere, hence the need for special AOCS currency?  Or, is the idea to set-up a competing market to the greenback market?

Thanks for the perspective,
Matt

There may be stores that have things that can't be found outside of the AOCS system, but having gone through a number of merchants on the marketplace that I linked above it seems like most of these things or something similar can be bought for US dollars elsewhere.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: BIG-TARGET on December 11, 2010, 06:12:28 AM
Just ordered 50 more coins!! :D

Plus, this also got me motivated enoungh, I just ordered some coins fro AOCS itself ::)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: luke on December 20, 2010, 01:19:05 AM
Thank you for your order!

Just to be clear, shipping wasn't advertised as $10.00 for two orders.  If you'd ordered one pack, it would have been $5.00 for shipping.  But two packs means I have to use a "medium" priority box.  Which makes the price over $10 for me.  Gotta cover my own costs.  :)

SW not trying to be an ass or anything  :P  but couldn't you just send two "small" priority boxes for $5 each? Of course having to print or write two address labels you might as well charge an extra $1 for the handling.  ;)   (I'm all about covering costs, and time is money, too. Just thought I'd try to harass you a little before I order my coins for the great job that you do!)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on December 20, 2010, 03:56:52 AM
SW not trying to be an ass or anything  :P  but couldn't you just send two "small" priority boxes for $5 each? Of course having to print or write two address labels you might as well charge an extra $1 for the handling.  ;)   (I'm all about covering costs, and time is money, too. Just thought I'd try to harass you a little before I order my coins for the great job that you do!)

Yes, I could.  ;)  But I won't.  :P

I mean, unless you specifically request it.  I do special requests.  Sometimes.  If I'm not in a growly mood.  ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 02, 2011, 09:48:58 PM
It's kind of funny. I actually found you through the AOCS. I've been buying their rounds and NORFEDS to have when the SHTF. When I saw these and checked you out, I had to have them and join. Can't wait to get these. I preordered 25 to start.

From the swamps of Florida, all my best.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Greywolf27 on January 02, 2011, 09:56:23 PM
It's kind of funny. I actually found you through the AOCS. I've been buying their rounds and NORFEDS to have when the SHTF. When I saw these and checked you out, I had to have them and join. Can't wait to get these. I preordered 25 to start.

From the swamps of Florida, all my best.

Welcome aboard!!!

I'm sure there will be more here then you can dream of.

Stop by the front porch and say hello :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 02, 2011, 10:03:21 PM
That was fast. Thanks for the welcome. I'll definitely be around.

BTW, I saw some folks on here posting about other AOCS rounds. Bud's Gun Shop in Lexington KY has "Gun Dollars". I've been buying these rounds for a while now, great prices too, about on par with the ones from here ($1.25 for a $2 MSRP copper round). The 2011 issues will be different from the 2010s pictured on their site. I believe a few 2010s are still available, but not positive. They were supposed to quit selling these after midnight 1/1/11 until the new issues/design arrive, and the 2010s should not be available anymore but there is still a "buy it" link on small amounts as of 2 am 1/3/11, so???? Mind you, these are not AOCS, but, they were designed by Bernard Von Not Haus (NORFED Mintmaster, the ones raided by the Feds over the Ron Paul dollars in 2008). He also has some great deals on guns.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/869 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/869)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: BIG-TARGET on January 07, 2011, 01:37:12 PM
I just made another order.  Which, if my math is right, is 3 orders of a total of 200 coins. :o

Is it possible you can merge all 3 orders into one big lump of order?

It could save you a few sheckles on postage ::)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 07, 2011, 05:13:40 PM
I just made another order.  Which, if my math is right, is 3 orders of a total of 200 coins. :o

Is it possible you can merge all 3 orders into one big lump of order?

It could save you a few sheckles on postage ::)

I will put a note down to do that for you.  Not a problem at all.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 10, 2011, 10:57:01 PM
I have to move soon. Just wondering if you have a date on shipping yet? If not, how do I do a change of address so I make sure I get these gems. I have maybe 2 weeks left before I have to be out of here.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 11, 2011, 12:43:00 AM
I have to move soon. Just wondering if you have a date on shipping yet? If not, how do I do a change of address so I make sure I get these gems. I have maybe 2 weeks left before I have to be out of here.

It will probably be after you move when we get them/ship them.  Email me at tspgearsupport@gmail.com with your full name and your new address, and I'll send them to their new home!  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 13, 2011, 10:08:56 PM
Well, it looks like they may make it after all.  ;D Just read the update and I should be here another 30 days. That will be plenty of time for them to get here. If they're not shipped by the end of Jan, I'll contact you with the new address. Thanks.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 13, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
Well, it looks like they may make it after all.  ;D Just read the update and I should be here another 30 days. That will be plenty of time for them to get here. If they're not shipped by the end of Jan, I'll contact you with the new address. Thanks.

Unless something goes terribly wrong on the way from the Mint to us, they will DEFINITELY be shipped out by the end of the month.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 14, 2011, 08:36:09 PM
AOCS is very reliable. There shouldn't be any problems. Thanks.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 15, 2011, 12:01:49 AM
AOCS is very reliable. There shouldn't be any problems. Thanks.

It isn't AOCS that I'm concerned about.  I don't trust shipping companies as far as I can throw them anymore.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Outdoorfury on January 15, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
It isn't AOCS that I'm concerned about.  I don't trust shipping companies as far as I can throw them anymore.

I shipped some locks to one of my branches in Kansas City and Fed ex sent them back and charged me. EPIC FAIL!

Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Greywolf27 on January 15, 2011, 12:39:04 PM
On the note of shipping companies. 

UPS this week tells me that a package that has been held up due to bad weather is somewhere between Texas and Arkansas.  I ask "where exactly"  this was supposed to be delivered two weeks ago... the answer I receive... "we don't know bad weather can hold up shipments for a week or more."  I say... it has been two weeks... my answer... "sorry"

*sigh*

man... I cannot wait to get my coins.  very much looking forward  to this.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 15, 2011, 03:44:26 PM
Ok yeah, the shipping companies suck. Agreed.

I'm a song writer/bass player. I bought a very rare guitar last year, only one I've ever seen personally, and when I got it, there was a chunk gouged out of it the size of a quarter. The piece was in the bottom of the gig bag, so it definitely happened during shipping. On the upside it's fixed now and plays better than my others. I have a great Luthier.  ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 15, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
Ok yeah, the shipping companies suck. Agreed.

I'm a song writer/bass player. I bought a very rare guitar last year, only one I've ever seen personally, and when I got it, there was a chunk gouged out of it the size of a quarter. The piece was in the bottom of the gig bag, so it definitely happened during shipping. On the upside it's fixed now and plays better than my others. I have a great Luthier.  ;D

Oh no!  Something like that would have surely brought me to tears, regardless of the skill of my Luthier (and I have an incredible one as well).  The worst that happened to my sweet Emma (warm little Gretsch archtop acoustic) was a few scratches on the pick guard in shipping. I didn't care one way or the other about that, as I don't use a pick, but if she'd been gouged?  *shudders*  I would have thrown curses at anybody who touched her during shipping.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: luke on January 16, 2011, 01:10:07 AM
The bass would have brought tears to me, too.


...Patiently... waiting for my TSP AOCS coins so I can "spread the gospel" so to speak! Wondering if I should order MORE now before the next order sells out!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 16, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
Gretsch are nice instruments. I have friends that swear by them. Mine is an Oscar Schmidt Delta King in original blue with cream binding. The black ones are fairly common, but blue is hard to find. Semi-hollow body, arch top. Pretty much the bass version of your Gretsch or a Gibson 355. I play old school blues and blues/rock and wanted that low, bluesy sound. I got it with this one. I like the short scale too.

Now, all us musician types need to sit around the campfire and play.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 16, 2011, 11:05:21 AM
Gretsch are nice instruments. I have friends that swear by them. Mine is an Oscar Schmidt Delta King in original blue with cream binding. The black ones are fairly common, but blue is hard to find. Semi-hollow body, arch top. Pretty much the bass version of your Gretsch or a Gibson 355. I play old school blues and blues/rock and wanted that low, bluesy sound. I got it with this one. I like the short scale too.

Now, all us musician types need to sit around the campfire and play.

You'd love Emma.  She has a warm voice, clear as a bell, but will bend to the blues easy as pie.  She doesn't do rock so well, but she wasn't made for that.  I honestly think the gods made Emma for folk music, or quiet instrumentals where she'd always be the leading roll.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 17, 2011, 10:36:06 AM
Oh no doubt. Always been a big Gretsch fan. Almost had Rachel Haden's bass she played on tour with Todd Rundgren.

These guitars were definitely not made for hard rock, but those guys have their own guitars, so it's no biggie. Besides, it keeps my kid from playing Metallica and Pantera on mine.  ;D BTW, they're real good for Rockabilly too.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 21, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
Just wanted to bring this to your attention. H&H Coins in NC is advertising these coins on Ebay right now. I don't know how they got them but they have them in stock.

http://cgi.ebay.com/20-1-oz-Survival-999-Fine-Copper-Bullion-Rounds-/120674550103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c18c38157 (http://cgi.ebay.com/20-1-oz-Survival-999-Fine-Copper-Bullion-Rounds-/120674550103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c18c38157)

Update: I just talked with Bernie Hinson at H&H Coins and he said he ordered them directly from the mint in large quantities. He just got them in, so ours should be any day now.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on January 21, 2011, 01:35:11 PM
Just wanted to bring this to your attention. H&H Coins in NC is advertising these coins on Ebay right now. I don't know how they got them but they have them in stock. ...

Well, isn't that something?  Already sold 'em, too.

I see his other current auctions are all for AOCS Lakota copper coins in various-sized lots that add up to a whole bunch of coins.  I suppose he must have just included 20 of the TSP coins in his order.

Still weird, since the TSP coins don't even show on the AOCS Mint site yet.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 21, 2011, 04:59:25 PM
hey guys!

i knew about bernie getting his huge amount of coins! its very exciting to have people getting the number of coins that he got.  and it looks like he isnt having any problem selling them, so good for him!

our coins have made it to the store, but i am in another state right now for business.  i will be back tomorrow and will be shipping out a TON of these coins starting on Monday!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on January 21, 2011, 05:12:23 PM
Thanks for the info, SW!  After that nasty business with the Swiss Army Knives, I think some of us are primed to see enemy action everywhere.

Do you earn anything when AOCS Mint sells TSP coins directly to someone else?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 21, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
Of course we do.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Outdoorfury on January 22, 2011, 06:12:48 AM
Sweet! I Cannot wait to get em!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 22, 2011, 09:03:49 AM
Yeah, he sold them to me, but he has more listed today.  ;D I'm also getting 20 Lakotas. Still waiting to hear from Bud's Gun Shop on the new 2nd Amendment Gun Dollar design and when they'll be available.

I've been a customer of Bernie's for a while now. He's got a lot of the TSP coins and they'll be showing up pretty regularly for auction. I talked to him yesterday. The only ones he can't get right now are the Community Dollars with the Oak Tree. The Barter is Better coins are on back order, but will be coming.

Shipping monday? YEAH! I'll be waiting.

I think I'm going to re-sell about 20 of the 45 TSP coins when I get them then order more as needed. I'll let you know how fast they go in Florida. Should be quick though, based on how fast the Gun Dollars and Tea Party Dollars went. Been getting $4 for the Gun Dollars and $8 for the Tea Party. I think anything representing Freedom and Constitutional Rights is huge right now. As they should be. The Lakotas are going ok, but not anywhere near as well.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on January 24, 2011, 10:21:48 AM
I got 20 in the mail today! Very nice, well made rounds. Typical AOCS quality. Everyone who ordered these will be impressed.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: archer on January 24, 2011, 10:35:36 AM
Of course we do.
excellent.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 01, 2011, 06:29:29 PM
Fixed a mistake!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 01, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
I would love to post how cool they are, but I can't find them.  The tracking number says it was delivered but I can find it.  What kind of box were they shipped in?

Either a flat rate envelope, or a small priority flat rate box.  Or, conversely, if you ordered a medic bag or water bottles or something, it'd be in a slightly larger box (not flat rate, or priority). 

If you have enormous trouble, PLEASE PM me.  I won't have you going without coins you paid for.  I'll send you more and if you find the original ones that were sent, you can send them back to me.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 01, 2011, 06:41:43 PM
RR, I just checked the tracking based on the email you use here on the forum, and it has NOT been delivered yet.  It was processed through the sort facility here in SoCal yesterday.  Not yet out for delivery wherever you are.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: BIG-TARGET on February 01, 2011, 06:42:34 PM
I can't wait for mine to arrive!!!! ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 01, 2011, 06:42:42 PM
Oh, thank God.  Wrong tracking number!  Good I can sleep tonight!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 01, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
We'll see if anything shows up tomorrow.  I checked tracks to and from the door and just me and the dog.  I have a large mailbox so they should be in there.  I only ordered a small batch and small flatrates fit in my box.  It has been very windy up here so I hope that he didn't hang it on the mailbox in one of those stupid bags. Grrr. I haven't had any problems up here before and I hope this isn't the first.  :-[ No, worries I in no way blame ya'll.

It hasn't been delivered yet, dear.  I just checked the tracking number (i think you might have missed that post).  It should be there in a day or two.  I'll let ya know when it gets there, okay?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 01, 2011, 06:47:06 PM
It hasn't been delivered yet, dear.  I just checked the tracking number (i think you might have missed that post).  It should be there in a day or two.  I'll let ya know when it gets there, okay?

Yeah, I am slow.  I had the wrong email.  I was blinded by visions of my coins blowing down the road with the snow.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 01, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Yeah, I am slow.  I had the wrong email.  I was blinded by visions of my coins blowing down the road with the snow.

LOL!!!!!!!  I can just see you sitting there looking at something, going.. "wtf?  It was delivered in OCTOBER?!"  :D

Poor guy.  Breathe.  Have a beer.  We'll get you situated yet.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Darkwinter on February 01, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
 :happydance: Can't wait! Can't wait! can't wait!

Like Christmas!!!!!! :excited:
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 01, 2011, 11:07:59 PM
Were we supposed to get tracking numbers? It's cool if we don't, but it would help. I got a response back from here that they were mailed monday 1/31, I didn't get a tracking number, and paypal doesn't list them as shipped. Just confused. Forgive me, I'm an old man.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 01, 2011, 11:37:09 PM
Were we supposed to get tracking numbers? It's cool if we don't, but it would help. I got a response back from here that they were mailed monday 1/31, I didn't get a tracking number, and paypal doesn't list them as shipped. Just confused. Forgive me, I'm an old man.

It's possible that your order was queued for shipping yesterday and hasn't been picked up by mister mail-person yet.  I'll run a quick check for ya to make sure.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: jakematic on February 02, 2011, 10:43:18 AM
Mine rounds just arrived in the mail. Snoopy dance!

They are awesome, thanks for all the work everyone put into creating them.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 02, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Nothing on Paypal, nothing in e-mail, nothing in the mail.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Pathfinder on February 02, 2011, 11:05:31 AM
Nothing on Paypal, nothing in e-mail, nothing in the mail.

Ditto here - also sent a message through the TSP Gear Shop Contact Us button yesterday. I ordered late Nov/early Dec. including a medical bag which were backordered til 12/7/10.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 01:58:36 PM
hey pathfinder and crash... our inet is down (we are having an epic wind storm) so if you have emailed and havent gotten a response thats why.  i'll be able to get back to you once its up, or you can call me and i'll hand-check your package for you. phone # is in the contact info on the site!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
Sister Wolf,

Sent you an email. My coins arrived today, but sans 4 coins.  Looks like the package was damaged. It was kind of wet on one side. Half the coins were in a plastic bag, and half were loose.  When I opened it, there were only 21 coins instead of the 25.

:-(

Sent you an email and a photo.

---

FYI, I'd definitely pay the extra $1-$2 to have my coins shipped in a coin tube.  As a lot of mine arrived rather scratched up. (For those of us who like to collect, the tube is worth the extra cost. I know this is TSP's first time really dealing with such coin sales. So a lot to learn and adjust.  They do look nice btw. I'll probably buy more down the road.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/2-COIN-SAFE-SQUARE-TUBES-Medallion-Silver-Rounds-/160540475354?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2560f53fda (http://cgi.ebay.com/2-COIN-SAFE-SQUARE-TUBES-Medallion-Silver-Rounds-/160540475354?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2560f53fda)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 03:33:49 PM
I didn't get the email or the photo, NUGUN. 

If you have a problem with the quality, I'll process a refund for you.  But if the package was damaged/wet, that's something the USPS has done, not me.

I will not be using coin tubes for shipping.  But I'd be more than happy to ship the remaining coins that you're missing out for ya.

Just out of curiosity, was the plastic bag sealed?  Because it should have been 25 coins to a bag, and the bags should have been sealed.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: fritz_monroe on February 02, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
I just received my coins.  They look awesome.  I only bought 5 of them, and I've given one to each of my kids, so I'll likely be ordering more.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 04:08:53 PM
I just received my coins.  They look awesome.  I only bought 5 of them, and I've given one to each of my kids, so I'll likely be ordering more.

Awesome!  I'm glad you like them!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 04:42:13 PM
I didn't get the email or the photo, NUGUN. 

If you have a problem with the quality, I'll process a refund for you.  But if the package was damaged/wet, that's something the USPS has done, not me.

I will not be using coin tubes for shipping.  But I'd be more than happy to ship the remaining coins that you're missing out for ya.

Just out of curiosity, was the plastic bag sealed?  Because it should have been 25 coins to a bag, and the bags should have been sealed.

I accidentally sent the email to rockwellsurvival@fmail.com, have since resent it to rockwellsurvival@gmail.com

As for the bag, I think it was partially sealed. I still had to pull it apart to fully open it.  I'm not a 100% sure as I wasn't really paying attention as I opened the package quickly in my excitement to see the coins. It wasn't until I counted them that I realized something was wrong. Then looking at the wet spot, saw a split in the edge of the package about 2 1/2" wide.

Here is the photo
(http://www.easternstorm.net/nugun/photos/21TSPCoins.JPG)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
 :-\

How frustrating.  I'll check the rockwell survival email right now and get you another package sent out tomorrow.

I guess that answers my question about whether or not the flat rate envelopes work as well as they need to.  Nope.  Flat rate boxes from now on.

Grrr!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 05:08:21 PM
Envelopes probably would have worked if it hadn't been so freezing wet here.  Also, the bag let's the coins shift around a lot, and get scratches and marks.

If you use boxes in the future, I suggest rolling the bags, and taping them. This should help preserve the coins nicely.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
I'll see what I can do about getting those coin tubes for the future.  :(  I'm really p-worded off that we already have lost merch.  ::)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 05:51:28 PM
((((((((Sister Wolf))))))))))))

We know this was the first shipment, and coins are kind of a very odd and finicky thing to ship (probably the only thing more odd and finicky are the coin collectors) LOL

FYI, it might even be worth it to talk to that guy Herb on ebay. He seems to have a lot experience shipping these, and might know what works best. I just ordered some of the Lakota coppers cause I really wanted those but they had been all sold out.   I told him about what happened, and how they kind of got scratched. And asked if he could swap out one Lakota for a mint TSP, and he told me he'd include one free. So he seems like a pretty cool guy.

And trust me, in no way do I blame you.  I have a hate-hate relationship with the U.S. Post Office. I can't even get into all the times they've totally screwed up shipping. Lost stuff. Damaged stuff. (And they never even tell you when something gets damaged. They just pass it along as if nothing ever happened.)

It's a shame UPS raised their rates recently, cause for a brief while they were cheaper than the post office for shipping many items. Especially when you factor in they have real tracking and $100 insurance.

Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 05:54:20 PM
Oh, and let me say "I love the coins..."

But I've always been a fan of copper. I think it's more beautiful than gold. If it was only tarnish resistant like gold and platinum. (When Orange County Choppers built the Liberty bike out of copper taken from the Statue of Liberty, I was all but drooling. *LOL* But hey, even tarnished, copper is pretty cool. I am actually thinking of putting one copper round into some water to get it to tarnish.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: jakematic on February 02, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
I'll see what I can do about getting those coin tubes for the future.  :(  I'm really p-worded off that we already have lost merch.  ::)

Let people buy the tubes, they arent cheap.

I do think a flat rate box would be better, with bubble wrap like APMEX uses. 

Mine arrived pretty crumpled and a few rounds have dings which is totally USPS fault. Not a complaint just an FYI.

They are so freaking awesome! I can't stop fondling them. 
Am keeping a few by my chair with the short stack of silver as a conversation starter.

Thanks so much for everything you do for us.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 06:14:13 PM
Looks like the tubes are about 50 cents.  That's not too bad. So we pay $5.50-$6 S&H.  Part of shipping and handling is the handling (packaging, etc) I think most TSP members would find that reasonable.

They hold 20 coins.  So if Sister Wolf started using those. It'd probably make more sense to offer the coins in bundles of 20/40/etc.   

So my thought would be that TSP Store might want to revise the quantities (oh, how do I find the coppers on the store, I see the old challenge coin under coins - but not the new coppers.) 


http://www.apmex.com/Product/243/Medallion_Size_SQUARE_Coin_Tubes_39mm.aspx (http://www.apmex.com/Product/243/Medallion_Size_SQUARE_Coin_Tubes_39mm.aspx)

(Don't know if that's the cheapest source. But it seems pretty reasonably priced to me.)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 02, 2011, 06:41:21 PM
Another option is "coin flips".  These are inexpensive clear plastic holders.  You can put up to 2 coins in each.  They come in 2"x2" or 2.5"x2.5" sizes.  Example from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Double-Pocket-SAFLIP-Safety-Flips/dp/B0043WTCJ6/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1296696663&sr=8-7) but they're probably available cheaper than this.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: fritz_monroe on February 02, 2011, 06:46:21 PM
I know it would not ship the same way, but how about those bubble wrap envelopes instead of the flat rate envelopes?  The shipping would probably have to be figured out, and different based on the number of coins, but they would protect them a bit better.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: jakematic on February 02, 2011, 06:50:22 PM
Looks like the tubes are about 50 cents.  That's not too bad. So we pay $5.50-$6 S&H.  Part of shipping and handling is the handling (packaging, etc) I think most TSP members would find that reasonable.

http://www.apmex.com/Product/243/Medallion_Size_SQUARE_Coin_Tubes_39mm.aspx (http://www.apmex.com/Product/243/Medallion_Size_SQUARE_Coin_Tubes_39mm.aspx)

(Don't know if that's the cheapest source. But it seems pretty reasonably priced to me.)

Thanks for the link N.U.G.U.N.  They didn't fit any of my empty tubes and haven't had a chance to measure them yet.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 02, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
Sleeves - those are great for a few coins 1-5.  But with more it's going to cost a lot, and worse...be a LOT of work stuffing them.

@Jake - You might be right about  the size. And it'd be worth getting a sample first.  The issue is that those are likely the width of standard 1oz silvers.  I have no idea what the weight/mass difference of copper to silver is, and how it relates to the coins diameter. It's quite possible the coppers have a wider diameter.

One of us will have to measure, and then see if we can get the square tubes in a width for the coppers.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: jakematic on February 02, 2011, 07:23:40 PM
Agree on flips. Drives me crazy when APMEX uses them for 50 ounces. 5 or less I could see.

39mm is a perfect fit.  I didn't have any empty domestic tubes, so I opened a QSB tube in 39 to try.

They are a little sloppy in an ASE (41mm) tube but could work in a pinch.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 08:09:37 PM
I know it would not ship the same way, but how about those bubble wrap envelopes instead of the flat rate envelopes?  The shipping would probably have to be figured out, and different based on the number of coins, but they would protect them a bit better.

Flat rate box for 50 coins = $5.00

Flat rate envelope for 50 coins = $4.75

Bubble mailer for 50 coins = $12.21

;)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 08:12:17 PM
I'll order some 39 mm tubes then - THANK YOU for figuring out which would be best.

I really wish there was a free way to do this.  I may go out and get some bubble wrap for folks who haven't had their boxes packed up yet.

For those of you who are REALLY unhappy with the way these were treated - send me a note (at tspgearsupport@gmail.com ).  I will send you some free swag, and a lovingly hand-written note from myself with a big huge apology on it.

:)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 02, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
I got my tracking number tonight. Thanks.  ;D

I also ship quite a bit long distance. I use a flat rate box, plastic tube, and bubble envelope. It hasn't failed me yet. I put the tube of coins, taped up with packaging tape, in the bubble mailer, then the whole thing in the flat rate box. You can get boxes of bubble mailers cheap. The tubes are well worth it considering they protect against damage and loss. In the long run, you'll be much better off. Yes the tubes only hold 20, but with the money you save by sending only 20, you cover the costs.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 02, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
Flat rate box for 50 coins = $5.00

Flat rate envelope for 50 coins = $4.75

Bubble mailer for 50 coins = $12.21

;)

Sheesh.

Okay, how about Self-Adhesive Corrugated Paper (http://www.uscarton.com/Self-Adhesive-Corrugated-Wrap-p/240-8-10-abc.htm)?  12" wide, just right for a flat-rate envelope.  Cut a piece 18" long. place coins on half of it, fold it over, insert in flat-rate envelope.

I've received coins packed in this stuff (yes, they were in coin flips inside the corrugated wrap, but that might not be necessary for you).  Very well protected.

(Don't mind me, I'm just brainstorming.  Eventually I'll have a brainfunnelcloud and it'll suck everything out.)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 02, 2011, 08:33:34 PM
I got my tracking number tonight. Thanks.  ;D

I also ship quite a bit long distance. I use a flat rate box, plastic tube, and bubble envelope. It hasn't failed me yet. I put the tube of coins, taped up with packaging tape, in the bubble mailer, then the whole thing in the flat rate box. You can get boxes of bubble mailers cheap. The tubes are well worth it considering they protect against damage and loss. In the long run, you'll be much better off. Yes the tubes only hold 20, but with the money you save by sending only 20, you cover the costs.

Yeah, I think this is the way I'll do it - or something similar.  I'll have to go get some bubble wrap from Target for now so that the folks whose boxes are going out tonight/tomorrow morning are at least SOMEWHAT protected.  I don't know where I could get the coin tubes (except for on the internet), and I can't hold orders back any longer than I already have, so that solution will have to be a long term one.

Sheesh.

Yeah, I about choked when I first started mailing these out.  Flat rate it is, and flat rate it'll have to stay.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 02, 2011, 10:58:17 PM
I just remembered a dream I had last night.  I was trying to pay a bill, and the cash register had lots of bright copper TSP coins in it.  All I had in my wallet was paper money, and for some reason it was all worthless -- foreign bills, or experimental $50s with perforations, or $13 bills that nobody would accept.

Creepy...
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: TOWcritter on February 03, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
On a positive note for me, My coins will be delivered today!  Yea!  I also found this article which I thought the gear shop crowd would enjoy.  Copper hit an all time high today!!!
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/02.11/copper.html (http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/02.11/copper.html)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: CBP on February 03, 2011, 10:42:12 AM
Got my coins today and they. . . . are . . . . . stunning!!

And I just happened to have some plastic silver dollar cases that they fit in just fine.

Thankyousoverymuch!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 03, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Here's a source for the 39mm tubes. The cost is under 50 cents each.

http://www.coinsupplystore.com/site/1648271/product/4070%20x100 (http://www.coinsupplystore.com/site/1648271/product/4070%20x100)

Once they come in, I'd suggest packing the coins in the tubes immediately using gloved hands. White cotton gloves work best. This way they stay mint fresh (not minty  ;D ) and uncirculated. Coins that are in good shape are worth more. The more dings and oxidation they have, the more the value goes down. Not to mention, it will help with shipping and inventory. Mine are all in plastic mint tubes or air tights.

BTW, what was the total run on these? How many were minted? That also effects the value. Once the dies are smashed and no more are minted, the price will jump. Look at what Bud's Gun Shop did. They ran the 2010 copper rounds, then smashed the dies and they are putting out a new design this year. The 2010's just jumped from $1.35 to over $4 each IF you can get them (I just took delivery on 20 more today, probably the last I'll be able to get in bulk).

I also have several 2008 copper Ron Paul NORFEDs that only 3,500 got out before the raid. They're now auctioning at up to $70 each for a $1 coin. The 2008 silver ones ($20 face value) have gone as high as $450. The copper Tea Party dollars are going for $8 a coin and rising fast. 16,000 of those got out pre-raid, I have 25 right now. Remember, these are of much more value than scrap copper because of the design and rarity, yours included.

I've been dealing in coins as a hobby since the late 1960s. If you need any advice let me know.

Oh and as for popularity? Here are my 5 top sellers as of last weekend:

1: Gun Dollars (Bud's Gun Shop/NORFED design)
2: Tea Party Dollars (NORFED)
3:TSP (Yep, they're VERY popular in FL and started selling the day after I got them from Bernie)
4: Lakota Free Bank (AOCS)
5: Ron Paul 2008 copper (NORFED only 3,500 exist and the price is probably a bit high for most, otherwise...)

Hope this helped
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 03, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
Crash,

Thank you!!!!  I'll order some of those tubes tonight.

To answer your questions:

1. The total run (so far) for us on these is 13,000.  Second run won't be that big, and I won't be handling pre-orders (yay!!!).

2. The actual total run for everybody who ordered, is closer to 20,000.  Maybe more.  I know Bernie did a second run, so it might be WELL over 20,000 at this point.

3. Regarding your popularity - have you considered just ordering straight from the mint?  You'll get a slightly better price than what Bernie gives you, or what I would give you, but you need to order at least a thousand (or more.. not sure) to get the mint to do it for ya.  If you want, I can put you in touch with the mint if you want to make a huge order at some point.

4.  I'm really fond of this die.  I'm not sure we'll be smashing it any time soon.  But hell, maybe that'll change toward the end of this year.  Really depends on what you guys want.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Greywolf27 on February 03, 2011, 03:13:01 PM
YAY!!!!! I received the email that my coins have shipped!!!!  WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!11111oneoneone
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Darkwinter on February 03, 2011, 07:39:49 PM
got my package safe and sound.  They look great.  Thanks!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 03, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
Ok, here the deal on AOCS vs Bernie.  ;D Believe it or not, I get the rounds for less and get faster shipping through Bernie. It's incredible, don't know how he does it. The guy must have major connections or he's ordering a LOT at a time.

Example, I ordered 20 Lakotas from Bernie and 20 Free State Project from AOCS within minutes of each other. Enough time to switch websites and place the order. I got Bernie's Lakotas this week and I'm still waiting on AOCS' Free State rounds to even ship. I spent $29.99 on the Lakotas and over $40 on the Free States, including shipping on both.

I don't sell that many to buy thousands, but have a few very loyal customers who buy a few at a time when I get them in. Just sent an order of 20 to Canada yesterday, 5 each of 4 designs. They're dedicated, if nothing else, and I'm just a hobbyist who likes to make a bit back on purchasing my collection. Takes the bite out a bit.

Yeah, the minting on the TSPs is probably near 20,000 which really isn't that much, as minting goes. That certainly helps the value. I know everyone I've shown these TSP coins to has loved them. You guys did a bang up job for sure.

Sooner or later, the dies will wear out. Even a minor adjustment like a font change would make the 1st run stand out as being the 1st run. NORFED did that. They kept the same basic design, but modified it slightly as dies wore out or years passed. Coin guys look for even the smallest changes and buy each one as they're released to have full sets. Yeah, we're different.  ;D

Have a good one.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 03, 2011, 09:52:00 PM
Okay guys, I have to list the coins as temporarily sold out for now.

One of our customers in Pennsylvania was VERY excited to receive his package today (which was supposed to have 100 coins in it), only to open the package and find.... *drum roll please*  A used novel.  :wtf:

So he emailed and I immediately called him back (THANK YOU for leaving your phone number in your email.  I'm out so often dealing with different things, it's sometimes easier for me to call you than it is for me to email you) with all kinds of wtf.  A USED BOOK?  WUT?  GAH!!!!!

So... Obviously I didn't send one of my customers a used book.  Or any kind of book, for that matter.  :D

He was extremely nice about the whole thing, but now I have to re-ship his coins out tomorrow.  Until I know that all of our coins arrive safe and sound in their owners pockets, I cannot sell any more than I've got right now.

I'm sorry if you've waited this long to order them, or are wanting to order more.  I'll post something about this on the website once I de-frazzle myself.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Greywolf27 on February 03, 2011, 10:41:38 PM
What is it with delivery service these days?  I mean come on.... a used book?  Someone... in said delivery system needs to have to size 13 broken off in their arse. 
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 01:20:00 AM
So Crash... I've got a question.

TW was sorting through the coppers we have left, bagging them up and taping the bags together, and all that, and... he found a blank round!  Totally blank.  It was supposed to be a TSP copper round, but it didn't even get the edge stamped.  It's just a plain, totally blank round.

Would something like that even be sellable?  Or is that just an oddity for us to appreciate here in the WilderWolf house?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: TOWcritter on February 04, 2011, 06:32:10 AM
Just a note to let you know that I received my TSP coins yesterday!  All 50 were there.  Here's the bad news.  The package that you shipped them in was opened. Either by dropping (Rough handling) because of the weight of 50 coins or by the "Powers that be" in the Postal service.  They were in the baggies, (25 per) ,inside the shipping package with a big rubber band wrapped around it.  Maybe the weight is just too much for that type of packaging.  Just wanted you to know.  They are awesome though.  I'm keeping one in my pocket just to show off and inform people of the "Alternative" to the Federal Reserve System.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 04, 2011, 09:05:05 AM
Somewhere, there is someone who ordered a used book and was astonished to find 100 copper coins in the envelope.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: TNVolunteer on February 04, 2011, 09:16:28 AM
Just curious, are there many orders left to ship?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 11:21:42 AM
Somewhere, there is someone who ordered a used book and was astonished to find 100 copper coins in the envelope.


But they didn't order the book from me, and that's the weird part.  The last time I sent a book to somebody was... never.

Just curious, are there many orders left to ship?

About 30, or so.  They should be out this afternoon and then I will be done with it.  :)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 04, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
But they didn't order the book from me, and that's the weird part.  The last time I sent a book to somebody was... never.

My guess is that 2 packages came open in some mail-sorting facility -- one with a book and one with the coins.  And somebody stuffed the contents back into the packages and taped 'em up, but got them reversed.

Either that or somebody stole the coins and substituted a random object that weighed about the same.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
My guess is that 2 packages came open in some mail-sorting facility -- one with a book and one with the coins.  And somebody stuffed the contents back into the packages and taped 'em up, but got them reversed.

Either that or somebody stole the coins and substituted a random object that weighed about the same.


I'm thinking your first situation is the more likely.  When I first heard about it, I was freaking out that USPS is now a bunch of thieves too.  But the more I thought about it last night, the more I realized that it was probably some very confused and well-meaning USPS dude who was trying to make sure that the packages got to their respective owners.  :(

Very frustrating, but more of an inconvenience than a problem.  Thank god for understanding customers.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Outdoorfury on February 04, 2011, 02:28:30 PM
Are orders from the first shipment still being shipped? I am waiting on mine.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
Are orders from the first shipment still being shipped? I am waiting on mine.

yes!  and if you're international (not saying you are, just saying IF), i can't give tracking numbers.  i am having to hand ship those due to weight and tracking numbers dont transfer between countries with usps.

also, i had a couple (not many) problems with shipping some folks domestic stuff.  paypal was throwing a fit regarding printing out one or two of the labels.  so i have to hand ship those as well.  outdoor fury, if you'll PM me with your last name, I'll tell ya where you stand.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 04, 2011, 06:02:38 PM
I got my, perfect!  they didn't blow down the road and I can sleep easy now.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Pathfinder on February 04, 2011, 06:09:11 PM
SW, I spoke with you today just as you were headed out the door. FYI - No email here at home, so I guess no shipment as yet - coins and med pack. Ordered 12/5/10.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 04, 2011, 07:54:39 PM
So Crash... I've got a question.

TW was sorting through the coppers we have left, bagging them up and taping the bags together, and all that, and... he found a blank round!  Totally blank.  It was supposed to be a TSP copper round, but it didn't even get the edge stamped.  It's just a plain, totally blank round.

Would something like that even be sellable?  Or is that just an oddity for us to appreciate here in the WilderWolf house?

OMG you got a totally blank planchet? YES! that is very collectible, especially from AOCS. They rarely make any mistakes and they're very thorough. WOW! I have a few that made it out of the US mint, penny, dime, but this is pretty much unheard of. If you haven't looked at their mint online, do so. It's educational. http://aocsmint.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=1&chapter=0 (http://aocsmint.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=1&chapter=0) I'd definitely say put it in a single coin airtight holder (most hobby shops or coin dealers have them at around 50 cents each and make sure it fits because the blank should be wider than the stamped coins at 39 mm, maybe 40 mm??) and hang onto it. Keep any records so it's got provenance. Anything you can do to verify it. That's a real gem.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 08:04:18 PM
SW, I spoke with you today just as you were headed out the door. FYI - No email here at home, so I guess no shipment as yet - coins and med pack. Ordered 12/5/10.

No, I just got dang busy doin' somethin'.

It has shipped!!  I show that it was packed up on the 31st, and went out the door on the 2nd.  It should be to you in a few days (Wednesday or sooner, probably).  I'll PM you with tracking info since you didn't get it from Paypal.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 04, 2011, 08:48:52 PM
Update. I did some looking and the only blank bullion planchet I found was a US Silver Eagle certified by ANACS. You can also go through PCGS or ICG for grading. NGS evidently won't accept bullion. You can google the grading companies for websites or hit me back and I'll dig more.

Sitting down? Now yours is copper, but, the Silver Eagle's up to $399.00 with 2 bids at auction with 2 1/2 days left for bidding. I'd say it will most likely go above $750, probably closer to $1000. Figure yours at around 1/3 of the auction value on the SE. Could go higher?? Depends on who's bidding. I'd say a figure of $300 wouldn't be out of line on a good day if it was slabbed (verified and sealed with certificate).
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 04, 2011, 09:28:06 PM
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/RacinRob/TSP/DSC01834.jpg)

My two current favorite copper reserves!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
GORGEOUS!!!  Can I use that photo as the sale photo if I credit you for it?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 04, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
Update. I did some looking and the only blank bullion planchet I found was a US Silver Eagle certified by ANACS. You can also go through PCGS or ICG for grading. NGS evidently won't accept bullion. You can google the grading companies for websites or hit me back and I'll dig more.

Sitting down? Now yours is copper, but, the Silver Eagle's up to $399.00 with 2 bids at auction with 2 1/2 days left for bidding. I'd say it will most likely go above $750, probably closer to $1000. Figure yours at around 1/3 of the auction value on the SE. Could go higher?? Depends on who's bidding. I'd say a figure of $300 wouldn't be out of line on a good day if it was slabbed (verified and sealed with certificate).

*swallows hard and promptly chokes*  Holy... Crap.  I'm so glad that at least one of our TSP guys is a coin collector.  I never EVER would have thought anything close to that.

I'm... blown away.  Just wow.

I'll take a pic of it for ya. 

Hey Rob, what kind of filter did you use to photograph those coppers?  I want to be sure to use it in the future on any coppers we have made.  Is it a yellow of some kind, or a red?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 04, 2011, 10:25:34 PM
Sure you can use it. As you can see I used some pretty high tech stuff to get the shot just right.  I think that it came out yellowish because the camera I have doesn't have the best color rendering, I didn't save them but I snapped a couple with my wife's camera and the color was very different.

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/RacinRob/TSP/DSC01836.jpg)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: archer on February 04, 2011, 10:44:30 PM
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/RacinRob/TSP/DSC01834.jpg)

My two current favorite copper reserves!
Great picture!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 05, 2011, 11:03:13 PM
*swallows hard and promptly chokes*  Holy... Crap.  I'm so glad that at least one of our TSP guys is a coin collector.  I never EVER would have thought anything close to that.

I'm... blown away.  Just wow.

I'll take a pic of it for ya. 

Hey Rob, what kind of filter did you use to photograph those coppers?  I want to be sure to use it in the future on any coppers we have made.  Is it a yellow of some kind, or a red?


I went to see my local coin/bullion guy and talk to him about the blank planchet, but he's gone for the weekend at a show. Tomorrow's Super Bowl Sunday, so write that off as a lost day. I'm a major Cheesehead, what can I say? My order should be here monday morning in the mail, so I'll get down to his shop after the mail runs. It's either that or call Bernie on it. I want to see just exactly how rare that thing is. I know I've never seen one. Either way, I'll post and let you know something and about how the coins arrived. Have a great rest of the weekend everyone!!

Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 06, 2011, 10:54:14 AM
Sure you can use it. As you can see I used some pretty high tech stuff to get the shot just right.  I think that it came out yellowish because the camera I have doesn't have the best color rendering, I didn't save them but I snapped a couple with my wife's camera and the color was very different.

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/RacinRob/TSP/DSC01836.jpg)

I like the coloring on that picture. I think it adds to it. Has a warm feeling. Nice theme too. Rounds and Rounds.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: TNVolunteer on February 06, 2011, 12:21:49 PM
Quote
Quote from: TNVolunteer on February 04, 2011, 11:16:28 AM
Just curious, are there many orders left to ship?

About 30, or so.  They should be out this afternoon and then I will be done with it.  

Thanks Sis Wolf.  I haven't received a shipment notification or tracking info for the order I placed.  Would you be able to forward?  Thanks.

TNV
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 07, 2011, 11:37:15 AM
THEY'RE HERE! Doing the happy dance! They arrived today in great shape and just in time, since I am now down to 4 from the original 20 I got from Bernie. BTW, the TSP coins are now #2 on the best seller list after this weekend, right, and I mean right behind the Liberty Gun Dollars and almost tied for #1. I'm tabling at a gun show in 2 weeks where I'll be selling both TSP and Gun Dollars. I'll post on how it goes. I would imagine it will be neck and neck again.

SW, I'm still looking for info on that blank Planchet and coming up with little to none. Evidently, they are very rare. I will be calling AOCS today on my order and will ask them about it while I have them on the phone. Maybe I'll get an answer from the source. Meantime, treat it as a precious gem.  ;D

Update: I just got off the phone with David at AOCS and he said "I've never heard of one before and it's extremely rare". He was actually shocked and at a loss for words. Evidently, you have the only one known to have gotten out EVER in the history of AOCS (the reason I couldn't find any info, no doubt). Personally, I'd hang onto it, seal it in an airtight, and get provenance on it because it can only increase in value. But if you choose to sell now, let the bidding begin, and watch it climb! $300 may be a very lowball  estimate now with this info in hand. I have a US penny error that is 90% off center with a full date. One very close to the same as mine recently auctioned (in Dec 2010) for $16,500, so figure accordingly with the fact you have the only one that got out.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 07, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
David's a very nice guy.  I like him and I like dealing with him.

As for the blank planchet, if you want it Crash, I'd be more than happy to sell it to you at the $300 mark.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 07, 2011, 01:49:04 PM
If I had the cash right now, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Still waiting to hear back on the house sale. A lot hinges on that deal.

I got myself overextended on another business venture (Biker Leathers) and wound up taking a huge loss, but I'm recovering slowly. This economy sucks. Bottom line is, I can still eat and pay the bills and I haven't had to part with my rare coins or guitars. I still have a small amount each month to get copper and a little silver and I bought my limit this pay period.

Let me see where things shake out after I get paid in about 2 weeks. Personally, I'd hang onto it and watch what the market does. Not that I don't really want it, but $300 is practically giving this away. Are you sure you want to do this? Think seriously about it.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Travis on February 07, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Those coins look lovely.  I wish my 50 were in the package that the letter carrier dropped off at my house.

(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac27/trh10010/DSCN1204.jpg)

I'm headed to the USPS I guess.

Are the coins insured in someway.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: kevo on February 07, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Received my package... didn't know people were having issues with their shipments until I came on here to voice my concern.

The coins were in zip-lock baggies, which were of course torn. I'm missing 8 out of my order of 100. The coins are also dinged up. Not sure I have a mint condition one in the bunch.

For some reason, I thought these were being shipped in coin tubes. If I would have known otherwise, I would have sprung for it and shipped it to you beforehand.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 07, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
Received my package... didn't know people were having issues with their shipments until I came on here to voice my concern.

The coins were in zip-lock baggies, which were of course torn. I'm missing 8 out of my order of 100. The coins are also dinged up. Not sure I have a mint condition one in the bunch.

For some reason, I thought these were being shipped in coin tubes. If I would have known otherwise, I would have sprung for it and shipped it to you beforehand.

The coins aren't in "mint condition" when they get to us.  They're shipped to us in bags which are in boxes.  We're shipping them out in *much* the same way they're shipped to us.

Of course your 8 missing coins will be replaced!  Not sure why you thought they'd be shipped in coin tubes either...  I'll need you to PM me your last name (if you haven't already) so that I can get them shipped out to you.

Those coins look lovely.  I wish my 50 were in the package that the letter carrier dropped off at my house.

I'm headed to the USPS I guess.

Are the coins insured in someway.

Oh Travis, that's awful!!!!

PM me with your last name, and I'll get your 50 out (again) in a box.  The first half of the coins were shipped out in envelopes, and that (your photo) is the reason we switched to boxes.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 07, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
Well here's something to be positive about - only about 2% of our orders on these AOCS coins are being troublesome.  While it's irritating that there are ANY that are having problems, I'm pretty happy that it's only about 2%. 
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: RacinRob on February 07, 2011, 05:53:46 PM
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/RacinRob/TSP/DSC01838.jpg)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 07, 2011, 07:08:49 PM
LOL!!!!  That really made me laugh my head off.  Whenever I see that there's a new post in this thread in particular, I cringe.  That was a wonderful surprise.  :D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 07, 2011, 07:16:01 PM
Ok, I needed that.  ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Bradbn4 on February 07, 2011, 08:26:24 PM
Well, my box of pachinko machine parts arrived -  :D
Heck, that's what it sounded like at least to me.

I would talk to Marry Beth about being a good source for the plastic coin tubes.   The coin sizes seem to be about the same, so there should be no issues about finding something special. 

The tubes do double duty - keeps them from rattling around and getting dinged up.

I wonder if the  standard silver eagle money clip would hold this coin.  Would be nice way to show it off to others.

Another good option for shipment would be just to use a bit of card board, tape the bags of coins to the cardboard and it should be good to go.  to prevent the items from sliding around - some newspaper to pack the box/container.


If there is an option next time I order these coins I would be happy to pay extra to get the coin tubes.



 
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: DeepSea1985 on February 07, 2011, 08:33:58 PM
Sis,

I received mine today and they are stunning, well done. After reading through the other post I see my discontent with the loose packing and resulting scratches has been well addressed. Hey, I know, they are supposed to be for exchange and trade but...... As a rookie coin collector I'd love to have one pristine coin to preserve as a collectible. Maybe next run..........
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 07, 2011, 08:42:01 PM
I honestly don't think I have a pristine coin here....  :-\
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 08, 2011, 02:10:04 AM
If I may? It's very hard, if not impossible to find a mint condition coin because these are business strikes and are shipped in bags from the mint. I usually find the best looking ones and put them in an airtight holder. I have every kind of copper round issued by AOCS, same deal on all of them. BU, not mint.

The NORFEDs I have are like that too. I've gotten sealed mint rolls of Tea Party copper rounds and they still have small dings and toning. It's the nature of these coins and it's accepted due to the collectability of them because of subject matter and limited runs, not to mention raids and seizures. I've dealt with literally thousands of AOCS and NORFED coins over the years and have yet to see a mint condition coin. But we keep looking, don't we?  ;D

 
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: The Wilderness on February 08, 2011, 06:53:02 AM
If I may? It's very hard, if not impossible to find a mint condition coin because these are business strikes and are shipped in bags from the mint. I usually find the best looking ones and put them in an airtight holder. I have every kind of copper round issued by AOCS, same deal on all of them. BU, not mint.

The NORFEDs I have are like that too. I've gotten sealed mint rolls of Tea Party copper rounds and they still have small dings and toning. It's the nature of these coins and it's accepted due to the collectability of them because of subject matter and limited runs, not to mention raids and seizures. I've dealt with literally thousands of AOCS and NORFED coins over the years and have yet to see a mint condition coin. But we keep looking, don't we?  ;D
 

Thanks Crash.

Well, my box of pachinko machine parts arrived -  :D
Heck, that's what it sounded like at least to me.


Brad, if you are not happy with what you received, pm me and I will refund your money.

I'm headed to the USPS I guess.

Are the coins insured in someway.

Travis. The coins are not insured because it would be cost prohibitive. We would not be able to sell them at the price we would have to charge. No one would buy them. Same thing with any Gear Shop item, however Sis and I guarantee each order and will reship your coins to you, no problem.

TW
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Travis on February 08, 2011, 02:53:46 PM
Makes sense.

Thanks.

At least we can hope someone finds the coins and be selling them or giving them away they inadvertently spread the preparedness message.

My replacement coins are on the way.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 08, 2011, 03:31:13 PM
Makes sense.

Thanks.

At least we can hope someone finds the coins and be selling them or giving them away they inadvertently spread the preparedness message.

Exactly.  What annoys me isn't that the coins are in somebody else's hands.  It's that they're not in my customers' hands FIRST.  I want to open this thread and hear, "I LOVE THEM!!!! Now to give them away!"  rather than, "damn it, I got a pretty box with nothing inside."

That is frustrating to all of us.  :-(

Anyway... Yeah, your coins are on their way.  :)  You'll get them this time if I have to hand deliver the dang things myself!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Bradbn4 on February 08, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
Thanks Crash.

Brad, if you are not happy with what you received, pm me and I will refund your money.

Travis. The coins are not insured because it would be cost prohibitive. We would not be able to sell them at the price we would have to charge. No one would buy them. Same thing with any Gear Shop item, however Sis and I guarantee each order and will reship your coins to you, no problem.

TW

Heck no you can't have my copper coins back - besides,  I have two pachinko machine so all the parts are needed.  ;D

I was just providing a few techniques that could provide a more secure method to ship the heavy coins is all.  Take the baggy of coins and tape it to a tight fitting cardboard strip and they will less likely cause the shipping container to make noise, less chance of a hole getting generated as the USPS uses the utmost TLC when tossing the container 40 feet into the cargo truck.

I guess some of that dreaded AS9100 training I took last week managed to take for process improvement cycle. 

I just think of these tokens as big old ha'penny  I use to get way back when I use to live in the UK. They are sort of fun to have - but don't have any need to spend them.

Brad in Colorado
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: BIG-TARGET on February 08, 2011, 11:36:48 PM
All my coins, and my Medic bag arrived today!!
And it's all good!!!

Especially, the coins!!!  Definate winners!  They're even prettier than the challenge coins!!

Thanks for having them!!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: The Wilderness on February 09, 2011, 12:03:53 AM
All my coins, and my Medic bag arrived today!!
And it's all good!!!

Especially, the coins!!!  Definate winners!  They're even prettier than the challenge coins!!

Thanks for having them!!

You are welcome! I am glad that you like them. Sis worked her ass off on that design, and it is great to hear that it is appreciated.

TW
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 09, 2011, 12:28:38 PM
no problem. Hope all is well with you all and have a great rest of the week.

Update: It looks like Bernie is sold out of TSP coins and has only Lakotas left right now. There is another guy in Minnesota selling TSPs but he's selling single coins and 5 coin lots at $3.05 (5 for $15.24 with shipping) to $4.65 each. Be glad you bought yours when you did at the price you did. You just made double your money back plus in less than a month.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: cpf240 on February 09, 2011, 06:15:23 PM
Just wanted to say that I received my coins this past Saturday, and I can't complain about the delivery in any way!

These coins are beautiful, and my only regret is that I didn't order more.

Thanks to SW for all her hard work on these!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 09, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
no problem. Hope all is well with you all and have a great rest of the week.

Update: It looks like Bernie is sold out of TSP coins and has only Lakotas left right now. There is another guy in Minnesota selling TSPs but he's selling single coins and 5 coin lots at $3.05 (5 for $15.24 with shipping) to $4.65 each. Be glad you bought yours when you did at the price you did. You just made double your money back plus in less than a month.

Well... God bless him.  I hope he is able to sell them, and that he makes a good profit.  :)

I think we'll keep selling ours at 1.00-1.25 each.  :D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: GreeneAcres on February 09, 2011, 09:14:31 PM
Received my AOCS copper rounds today :D ............... I love 'em and glad that I decided to purchase 50 coins.

Thanks so much for this awesome product
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 09, 2011, 09:15:50 PM
You did good! Looks like the coins are becoming instant collector's items. I'll be buying more from you as I can. I think I have the moving thing set, but who knows??
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 09, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
And I think I finally got the shipping thing fixed too.  Travis and Kevo will have to let us know when they get their coins, but I packed the heck out of those things this time around.  ;)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Roswell on February 10, 2011, 08:20:48 AM
Got my coins in the mail yesterday and love them thanks SW & TW!  :happydance:
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 10, 2011, 09:42:31 AM
BTW SW, Very cool dog in the pic. Looks like a laid back guy.  ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 10, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
BTW SW, Very cool dog in the pic. Looks like a laid back guy.  ;D

She's a girl!  Thank you, nonetheless.  Hannah's the doggy love of our lives.  ;)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Travis on February 10, 2011, 04:12:39 PM
And I think I finally got the shipping thing fixed too.  Travis and Kevo will have to let us know when they get their coins, but I packed the heck out of those things this time around.  ;)

Yep.  I'll post back when I get 'em.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: TexDaddy on February 10, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
She's a girl!...
Well, those of us who have been around awhile know this, but, you gotta admit, it is a little hard to tell from the picture.  ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: NWBowhunter on February 10, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
I was getting worried it had been 10 days since I got a mail tracking notice. And then Jack's statement today on the podcast that everyone should have received their coins. Well they were in the mail box tonight. They were loose in the box but it was intact. So now I have 98 coins stacked on the counter already gave two away.

They are great looking coins.  Everybody in the family will get one next weekend.

 ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 10, 2011, 11:11:57 PM
Sorry. Yeah she looks cool.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 10, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
Sorry. Yeah she looks cool.

LOL - like TD said, you can't tell if you don't know the mutt.  Not to turn this into yet another thread about our four legged kids, but she IS cool.  Coolest ferocious pink nosed pit bull (slash rhodesian ridgeback slash who knows what) that ever lived.  ;D
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: cavacout1991 on February 11, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
Got my coins and no gripes here. They are awesome and all of my prepper friends that didnt order any are trying to buy mine from me. I sure hope we can have another pre-order soon. I want 300 more.
Thanks for all of the hard work you have done. ::)
cavscout1991
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 11, 2011, 11:16:13 PM
We probably won't be doing anymore pre-orders.  But we will have more in the store in the next few days!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 15, 2011, 06:10:52 PM
Looks like Bernie at H&H got a new shipment. TSPs, and, get this, Rand Paul and Sarah Palin copper rounds. I've seen the Neocoins bashing Bush and Cheney, but Palin? It'll be interesting to see. I can get behind Paul & his dad, but....Too many jokes on SNL by Tine Fey?
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 15, 2011, 06:46:53 PM
We just got our new shipment today too!  we'll be counting them tonight, and I'll add them to the store as soon as we're done counting them (should be at some point before midnight PST).
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Travis on February 15, 2011, 07:00:48 PM
I just received my replacement coins and the new packaging method works terrific!  Coins look great!

Thanks.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 15, 2011, 07:02:04 PM
I just received my replacement coins and the new packaging method works terrific!  Coins look great!

Thanks.

YAY!  I'm so glad to hear that!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: mvrck on February 15, 2011, 07:34:24 PM
What is the URL for "The AOCS Marketplace".

I tried the link above, and I don't think that is it...

Thanks
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 15, 2011, 07:35:15 PM
AOCS Coins are back in stock!  We are accepting orders now, and they will ship immediately, with the new packing material (bubble wrap) instead of loose packed as they were before!

I do NOT expect these to last long, so please get your orders in if you want one.  It maybe almost two months before we get more in.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 15, 2011, 07:36:45 PM
What is the URL for "The AOCS Marketplace".

I tried the link above, and I don't think that is it...

Thanks

No clue.  Our store is at: http://store.survivalpodcast.net (http://store.survivalpodcast.net) but I don't know where the AOCS marketplace is.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Roswell on February 16, 2011, 07:01:20 AM
No clue.  Our store is at: http://store.survivalpodcast.net (http://store.survivalpodcast.net) but I don't know where the AOCS marketplace is.

It took some digging, but I finally figured it out.  ;) http://www.aocsmarketplace.com/ (http://www.aocsmarketplace.com/)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 16, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
AOCS should have a list of merchants who accept AOCS currency as payment. I looked and they weren't listed anywhere in Florida. I know they're here, just not listed.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 17, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
That's my biggest gripe about the AOCS, is that I find they're not really doing their part on the marketplace.

It's nigh impossible to find out who is involved....and that impedes further growth. I like the flash banners, but where the heck is the "merchant" list.

---

The advertisements are poorly placed and distracting. A user eventually gives up trying to find the merchant list. Basically, the site is half built and non-functioning. Total shame....

Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 17, 2011, 05:35:33 PM
But mine is functioning and these don't HAVE to be used as merchant tender.  Just buy them and give them out!  Or hang onto them!  Or whatever!  ;)

Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: mvrck on February 17, 2011, 08:57:22 PM
Of course, I don't mind buying ACOS coins from the your site Sister Wolf. But I would also like to know what else I can use this currency for.

I'm just trying to learn more about this ACOS stuff. I went to http://www.aocsmarketplace.com/ (http://www.aocsmarketplace.com/) and that is non-site. No link that I click works.

So a little more studying...

Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 17, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
I went there too.  And none of the links worked for me either.  If you find something, let us know!
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Jason from PA on February 18, 2011, 09:37:22 PM
Of course, I don't mind buying ACOS coins from the your site Sister Wolf. But I would also like to know what else I can use this currency for.


So a little more studying...



Basically, I would love to help push "open currency" but can't really do that until they get their act together.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 19, 2011, 12:23:00 AM
There's vendors around my area accepting them. We actually have a pretty good little network starting here.

I thought the reason AOCS started was to open the barter system back up. The only way it will work is through networking and getting more businesses to accept this as a form of payment. I had an entire restaurant staff talking about and passing around TSP coins just this morning at breakfast. They loved the idea.

Giving them out is good, but it's not accomplishing what this was intended for. Personally, I like to add one along with a tip then talk to the waitress about barter. 99% of the time they're very interested and glad to get one. Communication is the key to getting this rolling.

Look to Aspen, CO. http://www.dgcmagazine.com/blog/index.php/2010/03/03/the-story-behind-the-aspen-dollar/ (http://www.dgcmagazine.com/blog/index.php/2010/03/03/the-story-behind-the-aspen-dollar/) They are a prime example of how Barter should work. It needs to catch on everywhere.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 19, 2011, 12:32:38 AM
Don't they have a barter system somewhere in upstate New York as well?  All I remember about it is that the currency is called "hours" and it's close to Cornell.

Edit:  Yeah, it's Ithaca, and you can find the barter system here: http://www.ithacahours.com/ (http://www.ithacahours.com/)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Crash on February 20, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
Barter systems are springing up all over. Texas, Colorado, New Hampshire...Virginia is considering it. It's needed.

I did notice AOCS is doing some work on their Marketplace link, so maybe it's going to be back up soon with updates on merchants who take barter rounds.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Roswell on February 21, 2011, 03:16:09 PM
OMG.  Sorry for the broken links guys. It seems their Marketplace isn't fully up and running yet.  BTW, that was a link from http://www.opencurrency.com/ (http://www.opencurrency.com/).  On their homepage, the opening story is Jack's interview with the founder of AOCS. They  alsohave a list of "AOCS Community Trade Coordinators" who, "help facilitate trade and exchange currencies with Merchants and customers in a particular region."  The link to their directory is here (http://www.opencurrency.com/directory/ctc/).

Sis, you should ask to be listed on their approved dealer list.

Edit:
The Contact Us form page is down too.  I asked them on facebook when that will be up as well as the marketplace.  I'll let everyone know when I hear a response.
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Roswell on February 21, 2011, 06:02:37 PM
They said, "Hey, we've been going through some improvements and a few little issues still remain to be addressed obviously. But we're working around the clock to get things even better than they were before. Keep checking back and we'll try to remember to let you know when things are repaired.
In the meantime, sign up for our eNews & Updates at the top right hand corner of our home page."

Edit:
I also found an article about the medallions on their website.
http://www.opencurrency.com/survival-copper/ (http://www.opencurrency.com/survival-copper/)
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: nimzy88 on February 24, 2011, 01:07:53 AM
Just curious I am having trouble getting more than 40 coins into my cart at a time on the new site. Do you have to do something special to purchase 100 at a time? Im hoping you guys are just selling out so fast thats the reason :D
Thanks
Nimzy
Title: Re: AOCS Coins
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 24, 2011, 12:08:36 PM
Just curious I am having trouble getting more than 40 coins into my cart at a time on the new site. Do you have to do something special to purchase 100 at a time? Im hoping you guys are just selling out so fast thats the reason :D
Thanks
Nimzy

That's exactly the reason.  The store will list as many coins as we have in stock.  It was 2000 a couple days ago.  Now it's 40.  :)  I'm working on getting more, but it's gonna be sort of a long wait this time.