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Title: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 09, 2011, 07:01:14 AM
It is 2011 and a new garden season is approaching.  I have some layout changes and bed additions in the works for this year as well as a new seed starting scheme.  I'll post about these projects as they get underway but in the meantime I have two 2010 holdover items to update.

First, regarding the pepper plants I potted up and brought in: 

The pimento and jalapeno plants have continued to grow out the peppers from the flowers set when I brought them in almost 3 months ago.  There have been no new flowers given the short sunlight window; still, there was enough energy to provide the bowl full of jalapenos I picked yesterday (Jan 8.) 

These were turned into unlikely fresh winter poppers:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011006.jpg)

Second, regarding the low tunnel / hoop-house experiment:

All in all the greens in the primary "covered wagon" style covered bed are doing well.  Growth is slow due to the short days and cool soil as well as the fact that this bed runs north to south.  The bed should run east to west in order to get the best bang for your winter sun buck; I will be addressing this with a new bed or two and possibly a permanent greenhouse structure by next winter.

Anyway- here is a shot a dusk a couple days ago.  Lettuce, chard, chinese kale, radishes and a couple of broccoli plants (post harvest) occupy the bed.  None seem to be suffering; if the temp is forecast to go much below 30 I turn on a 300 watt shop light shining into one of the gallon jugs of water.  This has been sufficient to warm the whole bed on niights as low as 13 degrees so far.... 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011001.jpg)


I'm looking forward to getting started on the 2011 season and as before will provide more updates than anyone really cares to see. 8)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on January 09, 2011, 11:03:41 AM
Cool to see your progress still going on.  I'll start my 2011 thread once I have something to post.  Ground is all frozen right now, but I'll get to work on the additional beds in a month or so.  And I can start some seeds at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on January 09, 2011, 11:16:04 AM
You guys are amazing!!!

So motivating to get me off my arse.  I will now have two projects to document.  I will see about getting them posted in the next week or two with the details and progress.  Amazing that we are starting another season already.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 09, 2011, 11:53:25 AM
Yeah it sort of is slipping up on me; fortunately my work this winter is a lot less than what i was humping to get finished last winter (ie no fence projects lol).

The bigger part of work is going to be relocating about 30 boxwoods within the backyard. I'm moving all the common (American) ones out of the old formal garden area and then realigning the English boxwoods within the garden.  These are huge old bushes I pruned back hard last spring in preparation for this.  The end product is the larger common boxwoods will form a screen against my neighbor's ugly shaded border and the interior garden area will open up significantly for beds and possibly a greenhouse.

 I've been out root pruning them lately to get them ready to move in a few weeks.   If anyone is bored towards the end of Feb you are welcome to come help me.  8)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on January 09, 2011, 12:23:44 PM
I would love to stop by for an ole barn raising... wrong coast though :(
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 23, 2011, 08:12:39 PM
From under the hoops this week:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011033.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011032.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011039.jpg)

(I spent all weekend moving bushes and digging holes as the calendar is sneaking up on me again.  )

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 25, 2011, 07:39:46 PM
Getting ready for seed starting, I've been testing out my two new high output CFLs on the wintering peppers and some potted indoor lettuce.  Insanely bright @ 125w each and adequate to cover at least a 3x3 square of seedlings.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011041.jpg)

You can also see the overkill sized jumbo seed warming mat I picked up recently - I unrolled it to let it flatten out a bit before I get it set up in my upstairs bath tub (my seed starting spot of choice this year....)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on January 27, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
You can also see the overkill sized jumbo seed warming mat I picked up recently - I unrolled it to let it flatten out a bit before I get it set up in my upstairs bath tub (my seed starting spot of choice this year....)

I imagine Mrs. Cohutt is just thrilled.   :D :D :D

What type of seed warming mat did you get?  That is one thing I am looking at now.  Either a warming mat, an electric blanket or I may put my seedlings in a metal pan with a shoplight underneath.  Trying to figure out what is most economical and gives the best results.  My father-in-law has used the shop light method for years with good results.  Anyway, I need to do something as I am using my garage to start seeds in and it gets quite cold.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 27, 2011, 06:22:58 PM
mrs C is cool with it, only the cat sees the upstairs bath tub and it keeps the sun room from completely cluttering to hell

I picked this one up right after christmas on sale.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LVU4YI/ref=oss_product (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LVU4YI/ref=oss_product)

More than I need maybe.

Last year i did all sorts of things to try and keep the soil warm consistently with mixed results.   Too much juggling around and hassling to start as much as i did.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on January 27, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
mrs C is cool with it, only the cat sees the upstairs bath tub and it keeps the sun room from completely cluttering to hell

I picked this one up right after christmas on sale.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LVU4YI/ref=oss_product (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LVU4YI/ref=oss_product)

More than I need maybe.

Last year i did all sorts of things to try and keep the soil warm consistently with mixed results.   Too much juggling around and hassling to start as much as i did.

Thanks for the link Cohutt.  It gives me a good frame of reference.  I'm going to go to home depot tomorrow and see if they have anything comparable.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 28, 2011, 04:18:51 AM
I'd be surprised if they have any at all; i was by the one here to see if they were putting anything up for the spring and didn't see anything that remotely looked like a warming mat.

Update:

The tub idea is out.  LOL i didn't measure anything sirst and the warming pad is too big, the seed trays too long.

So the sun room will be the clutterfest again, starting with this tray of broccoli and chinese kale 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011043.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on January 28, 2011, 07:01:36 AM
I'd be surprised if they have any at all; i was by the one here to see if they were putting anything up for the spring and didn't see anything that remotely looked like a warming mat.

Update:

The tub idea is out.  LOL i didn't measure anything sirst and the warming pad is too big, the seed trays too long.

So the sun room will be the clutterfest again, starting with this tray of broccoli and chinese kale 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011043.jpg)


You are probably right about that.  I have two I am going to try just in case.

Looks like you have been using the soil cube.  I can't wait to try mine out this planting season.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: ncjeeper on January 28, 2011, 12:51:25 PM
Newb question.... but do you keep the lights on 24 hours a day?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on January 28, 2011, 04:55:31 PM
Don't know about Cohutt, but my grow light system is plugged into a timer that turns them on for 17 hours a day. 
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 28, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
same here.
mat is one 24. timer for the lights
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 28, 2011, 05:47:53 PM
Scavenged tonight in the back yard
1 small cauliflower head
a dozen spindly broc shoots from the zombie looking headless broc plants
1 small chinese kale plant
maybe 10 brussel sprout leaves
a couple garlic leaves, a couple shallot leaves
part of a small pepper harvested from the sun room pepper plants a few days ago
1 fresh whole habanero from the sunroom

2 little carrots
chopped it up, added some some onion, minced some garlic (from the store :( )

a cohutt stir fry sauce was concocted from the pantry and fridge, the psuedo wok was heated and 10 minutes later we were eating a tasty, vibrantly colored vegi treat.

Mrs cohutt has said a half dozen times in the last hour about how mind blowing it is that i could wander around the pretty much dormant garden in the dead of winter and come back in with enough stuff to make a delicious stir fry on the fly.  
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: nimzy88 on January 31, 2011, 02:58:33 PM
What kind of soil cubes are you guys using for seed starting, this there a specific brand or just any thing labeled as a soil cube on amazon or at a local nursery.
Thanks excited for the new year and new beginnings in the garden
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 31, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
What kind of soil cubes are you guys using for seed starting, this there a specific brand or just any thing labeled as a soil cube on amazon or at a local nursery.
Thanks excited for the new year and new beginnings in the garden


http://cohutt.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/soil-cube-garden-tool-of-the-day/ (http://cohutt.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/soil-cube-garden-tool-of-the-day/)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: nimzy88 on February 01, 2011, 12:40:18 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on February 10, 2011, 09:29:10 PM
Seed setup is taking shape... 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011066.jpg)


And here in Feb I'm scavenging everything to eat but the dirt from the dead low point of garden production for the whole year.   

And it isn't bad either:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011061.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: joeinwv on February 10, 2011, 09:44:51 PM
Nice work as usual. It has been 9*F the past 2 nights here and has not gotten above 20*F during the day for some time. Our projected last frost date is April 25, but I will be started well ahead of that. I am hoping to be able to tent the beds and get them above freezing around the end of the month. Should have peas, choi and beans in early March. Hopefully my garlic and strawberries are sleeping and waiting.

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: CookingtoSurvive on February 13, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
The stir-fry looks great Cohutt. I tis really amazing you pulled enough from your garden during the dead of winter. Can't wait to see the updates on the garden this year.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Tactical Hippie on February 13, 2011, 08:27:33 PM
Cohut your skills amaze me.

Ok I got a question for you.   Me and my wife are putting out our first big garden this year.  I’m in the process of building a small greenhouse to start my seeds in.  Here is a link to my greenhouse project post so you can see what I’m talking about.
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=24878.msg274163#msg274163
 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=24878.msg274163#msg274163)

My question is two fold I suppose.  

First should I start my seeds indoors and then transplant them to the greenhouse.  I have a large basement and would have no problem buying grow lights to start the seeds. It stays about 55 to 60 degrees in the basement all the time.
 We live in North Alabama and the temperature outside is still cold but not like it is in the North.

I guessing from what I’ve read on your post I need to find an electric warming pad or such for the seeds?

Also, I have not put the plastic on my PVC greenhouse yet.  I can’t seem to find any translucent .6mil plastic.  Everything I’ve found in the size and thickness is sorta a light tan.  So do you have any plastic recommendations for the greenhouse?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks,
    
                                                                    TacHipp

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on February 14, 2011, 04:37:47 AM
Thanks guys-

TH-

The warmth provided by the mat makes for much more consistent germination.  The lights really don't come into play until the little leaves open and start looking to absorb energy from above.

I got mine online through amazon - i have seen small ones in the big box stores lately as part of a small germination kit (tray, peat pellets, dome etc).  The big one is nice i guess but a smaller one would do in a pinch- (once most seeds have germinated move off under the lights and put the next tray on ?)

The plastic I am using for my winter tunnels is just contractors plastic (4 mil i think) from Home Depot. It is milky white, definitely not clear.  This works in a pinch but 1) it doesn't last long and becomes brittle after a few months of UV exposure and 2) the % of sun that transmits isn't the greatest.  It was the material of choice this winter for experimentation purposes; next year I'll order some of the greenhouse poly that is UV durable and has higher light transmission properties.  Examples are here: http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/plastic-greenhouse-film (http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/plastic-greenhouse-film)

Your pvc frame is a step ahead of me; I considered it last fall but decided to cover a couple beds and "study the situation" (ie delay a real structure for another season until mrs cohutt had a modest taste of Jan and Feb harvest and bought in to the idea lol)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on February 17, 2011, 07:49:45 PM
Taste of spring this last few days in N GA

Winter lettuce and friends came out to play in the sunshine

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011074-1.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011070-1.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011068-1.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011073-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Tactical Hippie on February 25, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
Thanks guys-

TH-

The warmth provided by the mat makes for much more consistent germination.  The lights really don't come into play until the little leaves open and start looking to absorb energy from above.

I got mine online through amazon - i have seen small ones in the big box stores lately as part of a small germination kit (tray, peat pellets, dome etc).  The big one is nice i guess but a smaller one would do in a pinch- (once most seeds have germinated move off under the lights and put the next tray on ?)

The plastic I am using for my winter tunnels is just contractors plastic (4 mil i think) from Home Depot. It is milky white, definitely not clear.  This works in a pinch but 1) it doesn't last long and becomes brittle after a few months of UV exposure and 2) the % of sun that transmits isn't the greatest.  It was the material of choice this winter for experimentation purposes; next year I'll order some of the greenhouse poly that is UV durable and has higher light transmission properties.  Examples are here: http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/plastic-greenhouse-film (http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/plastic-greenhouse-film)

Your pvc frame is a step ahead of me; I considered it last fall but decided to cover a couple beds and "study the situation" (ie delay a real structure for another season until mrs cohutt had a modest taste of Jan and Feb harvest and bought in to the idea lol)


Cohutt thanks for the advise.  Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. 

I found some seed warmers at the local Home Depot.  They actually came with one of those little 72 peat pellet greenhouses.  They are quite small but I bought 2. 
That’s not quite big enough for what I want but I’m thinking I got a idea.

For the rest of my seeds I have one of those plastic fold out tables, 2’ x 6’.  The table will have plastic draped over it’s entire length going all the way to the floor.  Under that I’m gonna place a thermostatic controlled radiator heater.  They are safe with no exposed elements or flame, and on low I’m hoping I can keep the table top around 70 degrees.  I will let you know if this works but I’m thinking it should!

As far as plastic I went with a 3.5 mil plastic I bought at lowes.  It is a little more translucent that the thicker stuff as well as considerably cheaper.  However I know I’m gonna probably have to replace it at the end of the season.  For about $25 I’m ok with that.  I will eventually buy some of the greenhouse plastic….as budget affords!  Again thanks for the advise!

TacHipp
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on February 25, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
TH, last year I used an old heating pad from the drug store and a Delonghi electric radiator under a table.  It sufficed
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Tactical Hippie on February 25, 2011, 09:12:52 PM
TH, last year I used an old heating pad from the drug store and a Delonghi electric radiator under a table.  It sufficed

Ha....Delonghi is the brand I have...lol.  A couple of years back our Central Heat went out in the middle of winter.  The HVAC guy was like 3 days out to replace the unit and I went and bought 5 or 6 of those heater and they have graced my garage ever since unused! 

You answered my question of "will this work?"   ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 01, 2011, 04:54:49 AM
Did some gourd prep last weekend for birdhouses; here are some drying after a coating of sealer....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011094.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on March 01, 2011, 07:51:31 AM
I'm curious.  Why are some brown and some white?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on March 01, 2011, 09:24:43 AM
I really love those gourds...
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 01, 2011, 05:22:07 PM
I'm curious.  Why are some brown and some white?

because i painted some white and didn't paint others.

:)

Recommended to go with lighter colors if you want to paint them for temperature reasons.   The natural colored ones are fine too actually. 

I drilled 2 1/4" hanging holes in the tops. sanded with coarse steel wool then primed them white. Afterward  coated all with a urethane; I'll hit them one more time for logevity.

I need to drill 2-3 drain hols in the bottom of all and then cut the "front door" holes and see what moves in....

lvschant, when mrs C saw them drying up on the porch she fell in love with them.  This after asking me for several months why i grew all the gourds and what I was going to do with them . 
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 01, 2011, 08:50:30 PM
2 x 128  speedling trays "in action"
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011086-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 02, 2011, 09:22:04 PM
A nice evening meal cut from the garden today- a huge salad of lettuces, spinach & radishes along with a large helping of broccoli shoots.  The remnants of the broccoli planted last September produce a healthy weekly harvest of side shoots each week.  The plants were decapitated in November and have still provided multiple side cuttings ever since..

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011110.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Herbalpagan on March 03, 2011, 06:01:42 AM
VERY nice and encouraging to see you get 12 months of use out of a garden!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on March 03, 2011, 06:04:54 AM
+1 for the inspiration you provide... amazing.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 07, 2011, 08:09:34 PM
Thank you ladies, thank you very much...  :)


Seed starting 2011: smaller footpring, higher output (hopefully).  Besides the lights and gianormous heat mat, the speedling trays are a new item this year, a test run.   So far so good

The view from across the sun room tonight (I promise you these are frickin blindingly bright lights).

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011116.jpg)

A closer shot of the speedling trays full of spring starts

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011115.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on March 07, 2011, 08:19:05 PM
Those seedling trays are massive and a beautiful sight.  How are you going to get them out though? Is it plastic or wood?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 07, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
Polystyrene ie hard Styrofoam.  The pyramid shape allegedly allows for easy removal once the roots have developed. I'll keep a butter knife handy if they are sticky.   The trays are from groworganic.com (Peaceful Valley) and there is a tip sheet posted there.

They are light since the material doesn't weigh anything to speak of empty
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on March 08, 2011, 11:31:18 AM
What size are those seed starting trays?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on March 08, 2011, 11:56:16 AM
I took a look at those trays and they look really nice.  Please let us know how they perform.  I could stand to use some, but I'll have to completely re-make my seed starting rack to work with them.  I don't want to recreate the lighting system if these don't work right.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 09, 2011, 05:43:44 AM
Fritz, it looks like you found the answers to your questions already.  

In case anyone else is interested, the ones I am testing out:

http://www.groworganic.com/speedling-transplant-tray-128-cell.html (http://www.groworganic.com/speedling-transplant-tray-128-cell.html)

 
Quote
For more about growing with Speedlings, see the Product Use Information, below. Note: all trays are 26-5-8 x 13-5-8 overall with slight variance on the height. This tray has 128 cells which are 1-1/4 square x 2-.5 deep
http://www.groworganic.com/media/pdfs/gp005-l.pdf (http://www.groworganic.com/media/pdfs/gp005-l.pdf)


Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 09, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Sunday I got a nice 1-2" layer of manure and leaf compost (well aged from last spring) spread over the asparagus bed.  (Only people who compost will understand why I was proud enough of this great stuff to post an action shot of it lol... )

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011111.jpg)

To the left you can see half of the new 16x3' bed being squared up and readied for installation/fill.  Seeing as how I did find 16' 2x12s for nothing this year, I cheaped out and only bought 2x6" lumber for this addition.  Damn it hurts to pay retail...  :(
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: TwoBluesMama on March 14, 2011, 08:03:46 AM
So amazing Cohutt!  +1    :happydance: and I'm so green with envy!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 17, 2011, 08:09:39 PM
In a moment of weakness I shelled out for a Troy Built chipper/shredder leftover from last fall.  

What a sweet tool for mulch/compost...  

So with this investment I decided I'd better put together a real composting system (that passed the aesthetic test with Mrs c...).  So far, the back and sides are framed and the double chicken with is loosly hung and fitted.  The idea is to have each layer slightly offset from the other so that it get a tighter patterns that with just one layer.   I balked at the cost of the hardware cloth and opted for this instead.  

It is 16 ft across and I am planning on 4 compartments with removable fronts and possibly removable dividers.  

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011124.jpg)

Eventually I was instructed by my supervisor to harvest a little fresh produce for dinner; those spindly broccoli shoots were the last harvest from broccoli planted last September.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011123.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on March 17, 2011, 09:29:55 PM
I can't wait to see your garden this season!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on March 17, 2011, 10:11:31 PM
Love the new compost idea.  I can't wait to see the finished product.  Oh and btw, I hear ya on the hardware cloth. The price on it around here is insane.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Herbalpagan on March 18, 2011, 06:11:39 AM
that's a mighty fine looking compost!!!  I have do do my asperagus bed, but have to wait for the snow to go...still have almost a foot left, but I'm seeing the corners of the beds peeking through.  ;D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: TwoBluesMama on March 18, 2011, 06:07:25 PM
Cohutt if you ever need a job I'd suggest photographing veggies for magazines and seed catalogs.  Your photos are a thing of beauty. Nice work.  Like your veggies too - getting big spring fever here in Colorado.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 18, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
Thanks! 

I inspected some of my seedlings tonight in preparation to harden some off.

Below are Radicchio roots "air pruning" in a soil cube:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011147.jpg)

I also spent a minute poking around in one of the garlic and shallot patches and was amazed to see how vigorous some of the shallot plants were.  This is from a single modest shallot planted last fall;  I like these dividing allium varieties I think.....


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011139.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 20, 2011, 03:05:30 PM
Wiped out the turnip greens this morning since they were racing to seed faster than we could eat them.  We ended up with 8 double+ servings in the freezer after I cooked them down a little.  When we eat them we'll allow to thaw, drain than then saute in a pan with the drippings / crackings of a piece or two of bacon. 

(http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/th_Garden2011153.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/?action=view&current=77f75559.pbw)


The asparagus has awakened and is popping up all over the place.  So far the size of the spears from most crowns is much larger than last year (the 1st for the bed).  We are going to let them all go this year and resist the temptation to cut any.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011150.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on March 20, 2011, 04:58:19 PM
I can't wait until our asparagus starts doing that.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 21, 2011, 07:47:56 PM
I posted about speedling trays a few days ago- I figured out an excellent adaptation for hardening off the seedlings in the trays this weekend.  The trays float perfectly with about 1/4 inch below the waterline, allowing the potting mix to wick up moisture in the cool sunshine.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011152.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on March 21, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Cohutt,

+1 for the mist excellent use of a town bell I've ever seen. Outstanding.  :D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 21, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
Cohutt,

+1 for the mist excellent use of a town bell I've ever seen. Outstanding.  :D

Since you granted me my 100th Karma I'll even share the double monty with you (had to add some water to the bell to fit them):

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011159.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on March 21, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
That is awesome!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 26, 2011, 07:22:03 AM
So how did the speedling trays work, ie what kind of root system did the seedlings have when i popped them out?

"Excellent" is the answer. roots were well developed for the most part; there were multiple roots branching out and all were pointing in the right direction (down).  The only issue I noticed was where I hadn't completely packed the cavities with potting mix.  Lesson learned, next time I'll screen it before filling them and will more carefully press it in....

Rainbow chard on its way out to the garden:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011163.jpg)

Also, in the last week the asparagus has taken off (to say the least).  With the substantial rain that is falling now (and forecast all day and most of tonight), it should explode.   Since this picture I have put up a 3' high paracord "rail" on the west (left) side of the bed to keep it from flopping over as much as it did last year.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011181-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on March 26, 2011, 07:27:57 AM
I think I'm going to have to get some of those trays for next year.  The problem is they won't fit my seed starting rack, and I think that they will be too big for the cold frame I just made.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on March 26, 2011, 08:55:46 AM
Man Cohutt, you make me feel lazy...... :D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 26, 2011, 11:20:52 AM
Man Cohutt, you make me feel lazy...... :D

If I wasn't spending time and energy on this stuff I'd find some way to spend it on something that would get me into trouble. ;)

Fritz _ the size is the one thing that is in both the negative and positive columns.  The bad thing is it is too big for what we are used to dealing with.  The good thing is it is big enough to hold 128 seedlings and not be the least bit cumbersome.   For quantity starts the positives outweigh the negatives.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on March 26, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
I'm thinking that maybe I can get one and lop off a row and a column.  That would make it just about the size of a standard 1020 tray.  Think that would work?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 26, 2011, 01:50:49 PM
I'm thinking that maybe I can get one and lop off a row and a column.  That would make it just about the size of a standard 1020 tray.  Think that would work?

This is a dense polystyrene, more so than the convenience store Styrofoam coolers but still it is just polystyrene.  Personally I wouldn't cut them. I think you'd be better served looking for another tapered plug grow system that fits standard trays vs paying for these and then cutting them. 

I set up a makeshift drip retaining tub under them by using contractors plastic and some old 1 1/4"x 3/4" pickets from a fence i took down.  I'll consider engineering something better at some point.  They have a tray @ groworganic.com that fits these but it is $20 or so.  These are nice but not worth $20 a flat/tray combo plus shipping. 

Sometimes when you start messing around with commercial grower stuff you find it doesn't fit a backyard gardener's set up very well. 

(Unless you have a giant bell in your yard...  ;) )
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 26, 2011, 01:55:33 PM
BTW It is raining like hell here today.

I'm sitting working on my taxes looking out the big window at all the stuff that needs doing NOW in my garden.... but can't due to the monsoon.

The combination is killing me

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/goofy%20stuff/Mansoon_Rain.gif)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on March 26, 2011, 10:26:22 PM
It's march and everything here is drying up and blowing away. Hate spring drought.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on March 31, 2011, 08:24:04 PM
Asparagus report.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011185.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011186.jpg)


PASS

:)



.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 05, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
Time out for a couple of days


Why?

Radar as the front was passing garden ground zero last night.


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/April_4_2011_storm_front.gif)


Chainsaw timeout; nothing that fell hit anything of importance.   Power was back on by dawn.

Carry on...



Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on April 05, 2011, 07:14:26 PM
Yeah... loud storm down here last night, too. Woke the dog up. Being surrounded by really large pine trees, we were a little nervous, but all is well.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on April 05, 2011, 08:10:36 PM
Yeah we got hit bad, but nothing came down.  My parents in Macon though still don't have power. They also had two trees come down, but neither hit the house.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on April 06, 2011, 05:58:55 AM
Glad nothing took out anything important.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: ncjeeper on April 06, 2011, 10:48:34 AM
Storm wrecked charlotte pretty good. I almost planted my seedlings in the raised beds last weekend. Im glad I didnt. They are going in this saturday.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 06, 2011, 04:31:03 PM
Yesterday evening was lopping shears and machete prep

Tonight is Stihl night
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 07, 2011, 05:24:38 AM
Before

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011216.jpg)

After (not completely after, but after progress....)


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011219.jpg)

I still have to deal with the rather large trunk laying on the fence over some boxwood I had moved over along the property line.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 07, 2011, 05:26:46 AM
My young Blueberry plants are blooming up a storm this year

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011214.jpg)


2nd year strawberry plants are getting busy as well:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011208.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on April 07, 2011, 09:28:59 AM
Dang Cohutt, that looks like a hot mess of lumber.  Maybe time to start a shitake mushroom project  ;)

Good looking blueberries and strawberries. Mine are just now waking up.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 07, 2011, 08:20:22 PM
Asparagus is taller than me now and more shoots emerge each day. 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011203.jpg)

We aren't able to keep up with the spinach this time of year; this patch has been thinned several times:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011211.jpg)

Radicchio beginning to turn red and take shape:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011205.jpg)

This evening I ran 3/4 of the tree tops and branches through the chipper/shredder I splurged on a while back; the yard cleanup continues.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 12, 2011, 08:08:44 PM
Crude raised bed from storm trees

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011229.jpg)

Sugar snap peas trying to get established before it is too hot (cheapo improv trellis above, spinach in background

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011230.jpg)


The tomato cages are just parked in the center out of the way.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 19, 2011, 04:27:53 AM
The spinach we have been munching on for most of the winter has finally started going to seed.  (In the previous post you can see some of the plants in the far right side of the bed holding the sugar snap peas.) Since all of the plants came from seed saved from a couple of plants last spring, I'll repeat and let some go all the way.

In the meantime we are harvesting and putting up spinach as fast as we can- (2 minutes blanch then freeze).

A few tall plants pulled and sitting in water in the shade for a little while :

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011236.jpg)

The leaves ready for processing

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011251.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Herbalpagan on April 19, 2011, 05:50:00 AM
Very nice Cohutt...I'm totally jealous of your early garden season, at least until I remember how hot it gets down there. lol
the snow finally left all the garden area last week, so I've been out doing preps. It will be real nice to get planting soon!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on April 19, 2011, 07:19:42 AM
Cohutt... is your lawn bermuda? If so, what measures have you found helpful in keeping it from creeping into your beds?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 19, 2011, 12:38:50 PM
HP, Yes I appreciate the long season more and more now that I've fallen off the deep end (from a gardening standpoint).
LC, it is actually one of the fine bladed zoysias (emerald maybe?) and while it creeps, it is much less aggressive than  than any of the Bermudas I have seen.    I lifted the sod then placed cardboard and wood chips down in the section where the original beds went in in 2009.  This year I noticed some encroachment that I'm going to have to nip early to avoid a loner term issue.



Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on April 19, 2011, 12:59:48 PM
I don't think we ever had zoysia where I've lived... but we had something called centipede grass when we lived in n. Louisiana. Maybe it is similar?

My parents have bermuda in their back yard... they are trying to get a garden plot prepared, but getting bermuda out is nigh impossible.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 19, 2011, 07:41:43 PM
I still find wild common bermuda trying to take hold in parts of the lawn from time to time but for the last few years the zoysia has choked it out.  (Thankfully)

Centepede is a lot different- it has a wide coarse blade and is temperamental from what I have seen; give it too much attention and it croaks,  Too little and it croaks.   
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 19, 2011, 07:52:08 PM
Taters sprouting in the one of the tater boxes.  Red pontiac I think....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011249.jpg)


I got off my arse Sunday and collected 2/3s of the nice rocks I uncovered and removed while moving boxwoods around this winter.  I have a few more large ones to go assuming my sore back doesn't completely seize up on me.

Why do it? There were scattered everywhere and in the way too much. Also, i figured itf I rounded them up I could get a good mental inventory of what I have to work with when I reincorporate them into the garden later.  Greenhouse floor/heat sink maybe?

(I promise some of these are a lot bigger than they look)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011244.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: ncjeeper on April 19, 2011, 07:55:16 PM
Man I wish I could find rock like that just hanging out in my yard. Thats about 500 bucks worth if you had to go buy them.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on April 19, 2011, 08:05:08 PM
You never cease to top yourself my friend.  BTW. heat sink floor to a greenhouse is an awesome idea.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 19, 2011, 08:14:23 PM
Ros,

I could make a vintage "Flintones" style village out of these for Toads eh?


Man I wish I could find rock like that just hanging out in my yard. Thats about 500 bucks worth if you had to go buy them.

these are all part of the old garden but were covered with 2" of 40 years of composted leaves.  I didn't realize there were as many until I started trying to rearrange things.

In the picture below, 2 things of note:
1. Those really big ones next to the bell are the ones I still have to move (plus about 8 not in the picture).
2. The garlic: I put extra garlic cloves in the holes left behind when I uncovered and pried out the rocks. I just filled the relatively shallow holes (3-5") with mel's mix and stuck the cloves in last October.  The garlic is doing remarkably well considering it was really an afterthought.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011196.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Rookinde on April 20, 2011, 10:45:23 AM
The spinach we have been munching on for most of the winter has finally started going to seed.  (In the previous post you can see some of the plants in the far right side of the bed holding the sugar snap peas.) Since all of the plants came from seed saved from a couple of plants last spring, I'll repeat and let some go all the way.

In the meantime we are harvesting and putting up spinach as fast as we can- (2 minutes blanch then freeze).

A few tall plants pulled and sitting in water in the shade for a little while :

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011236.jpg)

The leaves ready for processing

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011251.jpg)


How do process the leaves?

Rook
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 20, 2011, 04:20:52 PM
How do process the leaves
Rook

Blanch/freeze

Wash leaves, cut from stem and cull those going the least bit yellow
Bring a big pot of water to boil
Fill a large pot with cold water (I add a little ice)
Submerge leaves in boiling water for 2 minutes max
immediately drain and submerge in ice water
Drain and place servings in individual cheapo ziplocks removing as much air as possible
Place these in a heavy duty ziplock freezer back and put in freezer

The spinach leaves don't shrink down as much as you would think if you've ever blanched and frozen turnip greens

this doesn't destroy the leaves by any means but you won't be using these is salads when they thaw, only dishes where it is cooked/heated
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 20, 2011, 08:36:25 PM
I set out a bunch of tomato plants tonight, about 1/3 of the planned total.  In order to make room for the rest I had to do more of the spinach

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011261.jpg)

lol "my cup runneth over"

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011263.jpg)

Also I spotted another honey bee working the tiny asparagus flowers.  Not the best shot but check out the pollen he has stashed on his legs:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011252.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on April 20, 2011, 08:42:03 PM
Nice bunch of spinach!!

good to see the bees, they seem to be fewer and fewer every year
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 22, 2011, 07:47:34 PM
I started putting in the tomatoes bit spent most of the day trying to finish tidying up the boxwood garden project -moving the rest of the big rocks, weeding, leveling/ backfilling and then laying cardboard and mulching.
It is finally coming together after several months of moving bushes and squeezing in new beds.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011278.jpg)

I also got the basic frame up for this year's bean trellis - I think I'm going to use biodegradable jute string or something similar this year for the beans to climb on.  This is a new 16x3' bed that will have potatoes and beans; you can see potatoes coming up in the trench on the left.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011273.jpg)


Just to the left the asparagus is doing well and is actually standing up this year thanks to the retaining paracord.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011272.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 26, 2011, 08:04:49 PM
First Bok Choi I've ever grown or eaten

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011275.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011276.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011281.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011282.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011283.jpg)


(BURP)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on April 26, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
yum.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 26, 2011, 08:59:27 PM
All from the yardfarm, the stir fry included the choi (duh), some st valery carrots, ruby chard & stems, and green garlic.  The contractors drug a hose over the corner of a garlic bed and damaged one plant enough that I decided to pull it and slice it like a big green onion or more like a leek.   
It was fantastic - the white bulb had just started forming and the greenish stalk was tender for several inches up.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on April 29, 2011, 09:54:11 PM
Looks good Cohutt. How long has it taken for you to get it set up and running like it is now?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 30, 2011, 05:06:20 AM
Looks good Cohutt. How long has it taken for you to get it set up and running like it is now?

Thanks.   

The whole garden project?

I decided to take the plunge in June 2009- so it has been 23 months now.   

This included a lot of time spent tearing out privet and other junk plants/trees/shrubs plus building 150 feet of fence and 1 1/2 storage sheds though.   If you have ready space you could do it in half the time
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 30, 2011, 06:33:12 AM
The little bastidge.....

I don't know what he had planned for when he got to the top but he was heading north when i noticed him.


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011290.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011291.jpg)

I am 90% sure this is a stinking freshly hatched tomato hornworm. The side markings are there but aren't as pronounced as the pictures I've seen online of the mature ones.  I believe he grabbed on to my pants leg when I was pulling dead bamboo reeds from a thicket for bean poles. 

Clever little devil, he must have figured I'd lead him directly to my tomatoes if he quietly hung on.... 
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Nicodemus on April 30, 2011, 07:56:12 AM
Not only is you garden a producer, but it looks very nice too, aesthetically speaking. Great work cohutt!

Put that worm on a hook!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on April 30, 2011, 09:44:55 AM
Or under a boot.  The sentencing is over very quickly at my place.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on April 30, 2011, 07:10:41 PM





Thanks.   

The whole garden project?

I decided to take the plunge in June 2009- so it has been 23 months now.   

This included a lot of time spent tearing out privet and other junk plants/trees/shrubs plus building 150 feet of fence and 1 1/2 storage sheds though.   If you have ready space you could do it in half the time

I'm surprised it was that short of a time span. You must have really been hustling.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on April 30, 2011, 07:56:24 PM
I sort of just kept grinding at it a little almost every day, a lot on some days.


Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Jackncoke on April 30, 2011, 09:09:58 PM
Cohutt, you never cease to amaze me.

I've been following along since you started a few years ago, and you continue to inspire me. I garden on a much smaller scale, but I'm definitely influenced by all your efforts. Please continue posting about your efforts. You are bringing a lot of people over to the dark side...
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 01, 2011, 06:42:02 AM
Thanks to everyone for the kind comments.

Yesterday I sucked it up and made more tomato cages- I didn't have enough of the big ones to go around last year and decided i wouldn't ever stake again if i could help it...

This is definitely eye protection mandatory work- lots of springy sharp ended wire bouncing around because of the spring tension from being rolled up.  My forearms looks like I tried to drown a bobcat yesterday lol...

The wire is hard to see but I promise it is there

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011306.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011311.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on May 01, 2011, 06:48:51 AM
I know you talked about making these in a previous thread, but how do you connect them into a circle?  Bending or welding?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 01, 2011, 07:42:43 AM
I bend them and will take a close up picture today and post. 

Bending works well since this stuff is so thick.  It is a chore but less than trying to weld imho.

i cut the wires in the middle of the squares and each cage has 12 "full" squares in them plus 1/2 wire on either end.  When I put them together I overlap 1 full square- this makes for a sturdier circular shape vs a tear drop if you don't overlap. the tension of this stuff is pretty high.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 01, 2011, 10:38:40 AM
Here you are Fritz-

(I had to put an empty vermiculite back behind the wire to get a good focus on the close up.)

The top of the cage at the overlap section where the "connections" are with close up shots of each "bend":

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011314.jpg)


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011312.jpg)


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011313.jpg)


It is a pain but after a while you get a system figured out- I generally used my gloved palm to do 75% of the end then a stout pair of flat nose pliers to finish and put the curl on the end.

After I make all the cages I cut the bottom circular wire off so that about 6" of the wire will stick into the soil for stability. 

Using 12 full squares with the single overlap gives around a 22" diameter if I remember correctly. This is wide enough for the bushy determinate types like the Romas but still allows for 2 rows to fit inside a 4' wide raised bed with a couple inches spacing to spare. (This allows for a little more air circulation too.)

At my local building supply store the cose for a 150' roll of 5' re-wire runs a tad over $90.  This is up about $8 from past year.  Last year the same cost something like $120 at Home Depot, no telling this year....
The "yield" from one roll is calculated as 23-
150 ft x 2 squares / ft = 300 squares long
300 squares / 13 squares per cage = 23 cages  (12 full squares + 1/2 on either side for bending
Cost per cage = $95 / 23 cages = $7.30 per cage.

Yeah the cost is a little more than the nicest cage you can find in the store BUT these actually work- the plants generally don't outgrow them, they don't get tippy and fall over and the openings are a comfortable 6"x6" to reach in and pick the fruits of your labor.
Plus, these will outlast me I am certain. 

I'll end up with around 41 or 42 total tomato cages from the two rolls I've purchased.  I'll end up with less since
1. I am going to extend two by another 2 1/2' for the Tommy-Toes mega-vining cherry tomatoes.  In effect I'll add another 1/2 cage on top of the existing ones.
2. I'm going to use some of this wire to make pepper cages after I study the idea a bit more and I plan on leaving a little in reserve for future projects.

Lunch break over, back to work. ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 03, 2011, 08:25:39 PM
Potato beds raising up a 2nd level for more hilling

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011299.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011315.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011316.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Jackncoke on May 04, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
Lookin good.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 05, 2011, 05:48:43 AM
We've been enjoying a lot of lettuce/spinach/bok choi and other cool weather stuff; the 4x4 strawberry tower is putting them out fast right now as well.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011333.jpg)

Another massive veggie stir fry on the assembly line :

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011323.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 05, 2011, 07:32:12 AM
Looks tasty! When's dinner?  ;D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: nimzy88 on May 05, 2011, 01:22:57 PM
That bokchoi looks amazing. I personally prefer the baby bok choi i like the flavor a bit more. Awesome Job Cohutt once again
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 05, 2011, 05:10:38 PM
Thanks it is Joi Choi, a mini hybrid

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011275.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 06, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
The night before last weather.com was forecasting a low of 33 with possible frost in some areas.  More reliable sources (NWS) said nothing but I didn't want to take any chances- losing a bunch of tomato plants this late in the spring would have been a bummer.

So i covered them up with leftover plastic, tarps, garbage cans, my wheelbarrow.....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011335.jpg)

SO what happened?

Weather.com missed it by a mile and the NWS was dead on- they forecast 39 and the thermometer on my foundation said 42 @ 7:00 AM yesterday; it retains a little heat and 2-3 degrees difference was typical over the winter.

I don't like 39 degree temps on my tomatoes but they have been hardened off pretty well and had started growing noticeably since I put them out 3 weeks ago.  They should be fine.

Thankfully the peppers are still watching from the back window and will move out within the next few days.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on May 06, 2011, 10:10:58 PM
It's getting in the 90's here this week. that is just as bad as the 39. Are we destined to have a bad tomato harvest every year???
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 07, 2011, 06:12:23 AM
Yeah we have 89-90 forecast in a couple of days.   I'm afraid my first season of sugar snap peas is going to be a short one.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 10, 2011, 05:48:28 AM
Been busy trying to keep up with all the planting & maintenance chores @ this important juncture -

all in all it is coming together slowly, mrs cohutt is pleased at the efforts to make the whole thing look better. I haven't really spent a lot of time working on the areas in and around the beds until this spring. 

I'll try and get better shots this week

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011339.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 10, 2011, 06:50:59 AM
It looks awesome Cohutt and is really coming together.

What is that big tree looking thing in the bed in front?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 10, 2011, 04:19:25 PM

What is that big tree looking thing in the bed in front?

My tiny Rosemary plant that I put in June 2009.  :o
 
 I staked it upright a bit this year.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 10, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
WOW! That's what I thought it was, but wasn't sure.  Dang that thing is huge!  I just planted some a couple weeks ago.  I hope I have growth like that.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 10, 2011, 08:10:39 PM


Guerrilla gardening lite, back on April 12:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011234.jpg)

Seriously I had the extra seeds and noticed I had room for a row there after pruning back the boxwoods.  Why not, right?

A month later:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011343.jpg)

Another experimental spot is working out well, freshly watered in a spot where I removed some bushes and did no other soil prep:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011341.jpg)

a third is not, morning sun only, hard packed clay soil:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011344.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 10, 2011, 08:14:46 PM
WOW! That's what I thought it was, but wasn't sure.  Dang that thing is huge!  I just planted some a couple weeks ago.  I hope I have growth like that.

LOL, Ros, with Rosemary you better be careful what you wish for. 

You'll need a chainsaw if you aren't careful, random example below:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/3028229550_120f0f4bbf.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 10, 2011, 08:32:39 PM
I hear ya buddy.  I jinxed blessed myself with mint the same way, lol.  According to Mike McGrath though, you can remove up to 1/3 of the plant every season without hurting it.  Don't worry, when I give the rosemary out at Christmas I'll get you something else... like mint.  ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 10, 2011, 08:39:20 PM
Yeah I keep telling my neighbors to come whack a branch or two any time but they act like it is a scarce commodity that they don't want to impose upon me for.  HA

The mint you donated is doing well; I planted it in a contained area with a full 10" deep root barrier surrounding it.  Maybe I contain it, we'll see.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 10, 2011, 09:07:56 PM
Glad it is doing good.  Hopefully, you and Mrs C won't hate me forever for that one.  :P  I harvested a little over three cups of mint today and nobody would ever be able to tell the difference. I made a half gallon of mint syrup though ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: TwoBluesMama on May 11, 2011, 08:33:54 AM
LOL, Ros, with Rosemary you better be careful what you wish for. 

You'll need a chainsaw if you aren't careful, random example below:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/3028229550_120f0f4bbf.jpg)

I love Rosemary and am trying to find a way to over-winter it here in Colorado.  Seriously thinking of putting hoop houses over my sfg in the front yard.  Lost all my herbs from last year.  Starting over.

Cohutt - the thing I find most amazing about your garden is that not only does it provide a ton of food - it's such a beautiful design and so lovely to look at.  Nice going!  Another +1 from me for doing such a great job.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on May 11, 2011, 08:46:43 AM


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011344.jpg)

What is this plant?  Sorry, my not so green thumb is showing.  ;D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 11, 2011, 04:18:39 PM
What is this plant?  Sorry, my not so green thumb is showing.  ;D

It is the same simpson lettuce as below, planted at the same time.  Gee not much difference is there?

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011341.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 11, 2011, 04:20:38 PM
I love Rosemary and am trying to find a way to over-winter it here in Colorado.  Seriously thinking of putting hoop houses over my sfg in the front yard.  Lost all my herbs from last year.  Starting over.

Cohutt - the thing I find most amazing about your garden is that not only does it provide a ton of food - it's such a beautiful design and so lovely to look at.  Nice going!  Another +1 from me for doing such a great job.

Thanks.  It has just sort of developed along the way.

Also, in case there was any doubt, the rosemary plant in the picture with the bench and rock wall isn't mine, it was picked from googimages
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 12, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
the wintered over chard is living large now; i've eaten about as much as is in this picture since winter and it just keeps filling in.  That giant leaf in the middle is Fordhook Giant, a nice tasting white veined variety.  For scale, that leaf is almost the size of a legal pad.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011353.jpg)

The rainbow chard planted up front this spring is starting to get some color:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011348.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011347.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 18, 2011, 09:00:57 PM
Some of the elephant garlic is getting huge- i figure the bulb will be 3x the diameter of the neck & the soil line by harvest.   

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011362.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011363.jpg)


I harvested most of the shallot scapes yesterday- the chef I know who hails from Louisiana was pretty excited to see the bundle I delivered to him- weighed at least 10 lbs.   He hadn't cooked with them before but liked the flavor and texture- he was going to experiment some and come up with something to use them in. 

I left the smallest 10 or so on the plants for my own use; also, the one I decided to let flower is almost 4ft tall and is pretty close to a full bloom now:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011384.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: joeinwv on May 18, 2011, 09:36:07 PM
Dude, that garlic is huge... I didn't get it until I saw the BB for perspective.

Chard is one of the simplest things... doesn't mind heat, doesn't mind cold, grows back when you cut it down, good raw when small, good cooked when big, leaves are useful like spinach, stems are useful like celery...
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 18, 2011, 10:21:08 PM
Dude, that garlic is huge... I didn't get it until I saw the BB for perspective.

Chard is one of the simplest things... doesn't mind heat, doesn't mind cold, grows back when you cut it down, good raw when small, good cooked when big, leaves are useful like spinach, stems are useful like celery...

Agreed on the chard -tastes good, very high nutritionally and it just looks nice in the garden too

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011370.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 20, 2011, 11:51:26 AM
Wintering over some plant varieties seems to create a seed explosion for me  (and lazy garden rotation now that I have a little more room).



Examples:


Radish seed pods swelling up nicely

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011355.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011378.jpg)

I also have tons of seed arugula pods almost ready:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011356.jpg)

New (to me) seed saving info source:

http://howtosaveseeds.com/seedsavingdetails.php
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 20, 2011, 11:59:23 AM
Very nice Cohutt. I'm trying to save seeds this year too. I over wintered my collards and broccoli just for that reason. :)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 21, 2011, 09:02:41 AM
The seed barge is floating again; this time it is "herb laden".   I couldn't resist the purple sweet basil- even if it tastes like crap (which I doubt) it will be an attractive addition to the beds.   

Purple pesto?

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011373.jpg)


Also, the New Zealand spinach volunteers that I transplanted to one of the new narrow beds is absolutely taking off- this is already as good if not better than it did last year when I planted it directly from seed in June.   (note there is some "real" spinach along the front, the pointed leaves in the middle are the NZ)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011371.jpg)

Finally, the ground cherry volunteers have arrived in quantity - i was expecting this and I think I'll just let them grow up around the bigger garlic bed- I can harvest the garlic from the front side.   I really only plan to snack on them while I'm out in the garden-

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011368.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: martomic on May 22, 2011, 07:58:56 PM
What kind of asparagus did you plant? Looks great!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 22, 2011, 08:17:24 PM


What kind of asparagus did you plant? Looks great!

Thanks-

Jersey Knight all male from Park Seed: http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/5005/
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 24, 2011, 09:12:09 PM
Green garlic, basically freshly pulled immature garlic heads, is awesome.  If you grow garlic, pull the skinniest necked ones (ie the ones that would produce the smallest heads) as needed and enjoy.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011402.jpg)


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011403.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on May 25, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
We are garlic fiends.  that just looks divine.  I have to put some garlic in yet.  Hopefully this weekend.   

Thanks for the inspiration.  We are so far behind you its nice to see what we will be seeing in a few more months.

Doc
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on May 25, 2011, 09:13:12 AM
What zone are you in Doc?  Most people usually plant Garlic in the Fall and harvest it that next spring/summer.  I believe the garlic above was planted in the Fall of last year.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on May 25, 2011, 09:22:12 AM
Crap,  I hadn't looked up garlic yet, Guess I'll be planting later and harvesting next year.  Bummer fudgeles.   

Boy I'm glad you guys are around!!!   Thanks
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 25, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
You might still get some onions in though......
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on May 25, 2011, 06:23:48 PM
So what do you do with it?  Cook with it like garlic?  Or like green onions?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on May 25, 2011, 09:28:47 PM
Yep, we got some onions in with the first planting,  Also have some volunteer onions coming up in one section of the garden.  They are close but not too close to the brussel sprouts so I left them in.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 26, 2011, 05:04:21 AM
So what do you do with it?  Cook with it like garlic?  Or like green onions?

Like with garlic only better- you can use more and get a really rich garlic flavor without the pungency that would be there after the cloves are matured and dry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazine/18food-t.html
http://www.tbd.com/articles/2011/04/the-story-of-green-garlic-58511.html
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 29, 2011, 07:47:50 AM
The color is really beginning to come into the Rainbow Chard as it gets larger

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011430.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 30, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011436.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on May 31, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
I corralled the potato plants in the two "boxes" using some pea trellis (back) and some green plastic fencing (front).  The vines or plants get so tall they would eventually flop over and block the narrow gaps between the beds and boxes.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011434.jpg)

Speaking of flopping-

my main bed of softneck garlic looks like a dog chased a cat through the middle.   Harvest time looming.... 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011435.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 01, 2011, 04:22:44 AM
peas
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011424.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011423.jpg)

no peas (couple weeks of 90s ends that fun fast)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011428.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011425.jpg)

(The tomatoes were in a long time ago behind the peas in the long bed but I couldn't really cage most until the peas were done and removed)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 01, 2011, 08:24:40 PM
Pulled a few shallots and a sampling of the garlic

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011446.jpg)

Shallots in the back, hardneck on the left, softneck on the right, one small elephant garlic head front left
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 03, 2011, 08:42:01 PM
Last year I had branches full of peppers shear off the plant;  this year I am experimenting with pepper cages (left), basically 50% scale of my tomato cages (right).

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011429.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 04, 2011, 09:52:21 PM
Garlic is about 90% harvested now

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011451.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on June 05, 2011, 08:29:12 AM
I assume there are no vampires for three counties!!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on June 05, 2011, 09:19:20 AM
What type of garlic did you end up growing?  I thought that it would be later in the year when you would be pulling garlic.  So was it the experimental cloves that told you it was ready?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 05, 2011, 12:52:18 PM
GW:

I haven't spotted any since the wagon train rolled up to the shade near my house lol....

FM:

Most was california early, a basic silverskin softneck; some was a 2nd year stock hardneck of unknown type that Spartan sent me in fall 2009.

I thought it would be later this year as well, but......

Several factors in the decision to harvest.

I planted it pretty early (i'll have to check but i think it was late September) and had a lot of top growth last fall and all the way through the spring.

It flopped- some sources suggested this was time to do it or else cloves would start separating and/or a potential rot situation would creep in as the cloves split the protective skin and water potential could seep in through the crimped neck area.

The leaves - at least 1/3 to 1/2 of the lower leaves were completely dried and some were approaching a full brown out. 

The sampling showed really good skin on most heads but I had enough with clovers separating that i didn't want to push it any further.   

So finally, I couldn't help myself once I started pulling some and just cleaned out the big beds - I still have some inter-planted among the other beds to pull, mainly hardneck.  The Elephant garlic is approaching harvest time as well.

(Also I was ready to use the space for bush limas)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 05, 2011, 08:52:57 PM
EG not wanting to come up

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011461.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 06, 2011, 07:47:34 PM
Garlic curing under the roof of Lizzie's porch
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011469.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011472.jpg)

Shallots curing under the former lawnmower shed roof (that will be torn down later this summer).  I harvested these even though there was a lot of green left; both the side beds had pervasive rot creeping in so I cut my losses.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011470.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011471.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Jackncoke on June 07, 2011, 10:55:23 AM
Thanks for posting pictures of how you harvest. It is informative and entertaining!  :D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 07, 2011, 05:33:23 PM
Thanks for posting pictures of how you harvest. It is informative and entertaining!  :D

Always good to know someone is watching and enjoying ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on June 07, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
Might not post everyday, but I am lurking on your post :D

Always looking to glean some knowledge.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on June 07, 2011, 08:05:26 PM
I am so jealous of your beautiful garlic... mine didn't do so well down here. My flower beds are not really very good gardens... (but just wait until we get the homestead going!!!).
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 07, 2011, 09:05:45 PM
Thanks GW and LC. 

I sauteed a half dozen sliced cloves over very low heat in olive oil with a small minced shallot for good measure.   The kitchen had one of those aromas in it that is just indescribable....  I added some crushed Romas frozen last August and simmered until the whole thing had reduced to a stringy sauce.   Some fresh oregano (no basil ready yet :( ) and salt served over pasta.......deeeeelicious.

Then I walked out and found one of my Brandywines had gone from full and setting fruit to a total dead-plant-standing wilt in a day.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011479.jpg)

I pulled it asap and inspected the roots and stem; something had stripped the outer layer off of the base of the plant and it didn't take long for it to collapse...


Stem @ base- no outer green layer.  Damn.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011488.jpg)


But the Fordhook Giant chard was living up to its name and I felt better again...

;)

This stuff is 3 feet tall. 

(And delicious.)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011486.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on June 08, 2011, 07:45:12 AM
That is an awesome garlic harvest Cohutt.  How tight did you plant them per square? Did you stick to Mel's 9 per square or did you do 4.  I stuck with 9, but think I may have overcrowded them.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 08, 2011, 05:16:30 PM
I planted 4 / square, basically a 6" spacing.   After doing  some investigation that appeared to be as tight as I needed to go without material reducing the average head size.  I also started with bigger cloves this year.

I pulled the last of the garlic this morning, another 6 or 7 squares inter-planted among the beds.  I still have a pretty good stand of shallots left, but I am letting them go to the bitter end since they are in well draining areas.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on June 08, 2011, 07:37:38 PM
Wow! I definitely overcrowded mine big time.  Thanks.  I'll remember that this Fall.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 08, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
Upon further investigation, the deceased Brandywine more likely fell to Southern Bacterial Wilt - Pseudomonas solanacearum. 

Treatment: none

Management: Rotation

Dayam it went down fast


In the meantime, I got a bed of Henderson Bush Limas planted (the main garlic bead)  and the last of the garlic pulled.  Also pulled some more shallots as the tops continued to dry:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011492.jpg)

This evening I harvested seeds for next fall, (L-R) Bloomsdale Spinach, French Breakfast Radish and an Arugula whose exact description I forget

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011490.jpg)

Finally I noticed a fresh hatch of some sort of stink or squash bug nymphs, (possibly  leaf footed bug), ruining the tip of one of my potato plant vines.  I sentenced them to a watery grave in the pest's bell from hell

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011491.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 11, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
two tangible steps forward today

1:  Bird netting tent put up over blue berries:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011500.jpg)

2:  :)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011499.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Jackncoke on June 12, 2011, 11:27:16 AM
A squirrel catapult?  ???
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 12, 2011, 02:26:12 PM
No, but I like the way you are thinking lol
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on June 12, 2011, 05:08:47 PM
camera on a stick so you can watch the cute neighbor sun bathing?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 12, 2011, 07:17:47 PM
No cute neighbors over 18 or under 60 lol
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on June 12, 2011, 10:30:53 PM
Pirate Ship?   Just hang e jolly roger from it and really get the neighbors thinking.  LOL

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 13, 2011, 04:18:52 AM
That is pretty funny Doc

It is actually a well drilling rig, a cable tool or "spudder" rig.   Antiquated and slow vs "modern" drilling rigs but it gets the job done.  The modern monster air rotary rigs are huge and can made an irretrievable mess of a small space when mud layers are passed.  Besides, they couldn't get in the way they claimed they could.
I found this driller, he should be able to get it done although it will take a few days vs a few hours......   
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 13, 2011, 05:36:26 AM
Should be more obvious from this perspective:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011497.jpg)

See what I mean about antique?  ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 15, 2011, 05:02:14 AM
Progress - about 55 ft drilled, 12-15 of it into the shale. 

Mud reservoir was full so I breached the berm and directed overflow down along behind the back beds and into the low corner of the yard.   It is much more under control than it looks - I figured  I would spend the enrgy to control it as much as possible now vs spending 3x cleaning it up later

full
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011508.jpg)

partially breached

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011515.jpg)

the impromptu slough with the initial runoff oozing down past the asparagus, then between the gourd & tomato bed, then looking back uphill from the bottom corner

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011516.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011517.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011518.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on June 15, 2011, 09:31:37 AM
Nothing ever stands still at the Cohutt home does it? LOL

Glad it seems to be going...well :D 

A well and a bell, won't that be swell. Won't be long and you'll be through with this hell. 
(Sorry, every now and then the English nerd in me forces to rhyme and I must submit or I start twitching  :P)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 15, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
And I'm reading this on my Dell....

(Not like I have to get in the last word or anything....)

It is raining here for a change - a nice squall with no tornadoes.   A brief hailstorm did come up but it rained enought to almost wash my boots clean from last night- and they were muddy

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011514.jpg)


I got a quick glance at the slough before the storm came up and spotted a nice delta of light colored rock at the top- a good sign I believe. The drain system worked perfectly and there is a nice deep settling pool at the bottom filtering the clay out of the water as it drains out.   I'd have gotten a report from the well guy but when the lightning showed up he bagged it for the day- I don't blame him

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 15, 2011, 08:50:07 PM
The shallot cart is ready for takeoff again

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden2011520.jpg)

(And the rain did wonders for the boots)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 19, 2011, 02:53:41 PM
Gigantic Blue Jade corn stand, all of 2 1/2- 3 ft tall,  beginning to show some tassels.   For scale, some of the onions appear to be taller next to the corn.



(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011503.jpg)

Looks like I'll get good flow out of the well, we are going to punch another 15-20 ft into the strata that is producing water.  The only drawback now is that the water is full of a microfine yellow particulate; it should run itself clean eventually.  I have a blackberry video I need to upload

With water on the horizon I have trenched all day in the 97 degree heat and not have some modest finisheing to manually complete before I start assembling the first line back to the house.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on June 19, 2011, 05:11:19 PM
That's awesome Cohutt!  Glad you got the well punched. Sorry no oil this time.  :P  The corn is looking good too.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 19, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
Long way from getting it up and running but at least it would appear I will not have a dry hole. 

I spent 4 hrs today on a rental trencher that runs to 36" deep.  Boy there were a lot of roots.  It was a "stand on" machine with tracks, which i suppose was a lot less abusive to my tired bones than a walk behind with wheels would have been.

A couple of "in progress shots" follow:

A long way to trench - about 165 ft I believe

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011537.jpg)

And looking back towards the well truck:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011535.jpg)

Speaking of-

my retention scheme continues to work as planned as the process is getting wetter now vs just mud and freshly ground  sand 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011526.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: mikem on June 21, 2011, 07:25:31 PM
Wow just thumbed through this whole thread - impressive stuff, and definitely something to strive towards!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 21, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
Thanks mikem, if an old fart like me can do it anyone can.



Update:

I got the main run of 1" pvc in the ground and covered, next is power and a 2nd return line in the same trench, for the discharge from the geothermal heat pump once installed

The hole is drilled at only 150 feet and I have decent flow; tomorrow they will ream the first feet of rock to seat the casing into and then grout the top few feet with bentonite.  Maybe I'll be pumping by this weekend.

I have a mess to deal with but the spudder well rigs are so much less messy that the state of the art rigs that blow the grit and mud out at 300 psi.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on June 21, 2011, 08:39:07 PM
Your a gardening machine man! I bet it is nerve racking dealing with the mess around you gardens but it will be worth it in the long run.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 21, 2011, 09:02:03 PM
LOL we calculated that damn bit dropped 185,000 times over 6 days of drilling. 


This vid shows the bailer dumping 15 yellow gallons from the bottom of the hole.

Believe it or we kept all the mud out of the beds and well contained, it is just a slough snaking through the beds to the settling pool in the low corner of the yard.

http://youtu.be/yUUn8DfXirw
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 26, 2011, 08:12:42 PM
One of the "hand dig" sections was dug and the piping / conduit is now laid from the back to within 15 feet of the foundation.

The last 15 is going to be a bear, it is all to be dug by hand due to the previously pulled power/ gas buried through the area.

This was this morning when I started filling the trench back in; the rain had set the clay up and it was slow and more labor intensive that the dry dirt would have been by a factor of 10 I believe.  The heat and especially the humidity were both oppressive all day...

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011545.jpg)

We had two deluges today that slowed then stopped progress; however I used the rain-out time productively by starting to trim and sort shallots and garlic that were cured enough to move to the permanent storage in the basement.  Tip: A dry soft bristled toothbrush is a great garlic cleaning accessory. Some of the results:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011556.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on June 27, 2011, 10:26:09 AM
Nice harvest pics.  Good suggestion on the toothbrush.  I hadn't thought of that, but I bet it works well for getting all that paper off the cloves.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: mikem on June 27, 2011, 11:29:44 AM
This is awesome! Great job..
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 27, 2011, 04:15:29 PM
Nice harvest pics.  Good suggestion on the toothbrush.  I hadn't thought of that, but I bet it works well for getting all that paper off the cloves.

At this prep stage, you really don't want to take any more paper off the heads than you have to- for storage life and general "shrivel avoidance" you want to leave them (the cloves) all bundled up together as snugly as possible.  This is why you should eat the heads in your harvest that are splitting with cloves separating first- they will taste fine fresh but won't retain the moisture over time like a tightly wrapped head.   The garlic on the left side is the remainder of my "eat now" stack; the box on the right is the small amount of hardneck from the harvest. The 200 or so tight softneck heads are still curing but need to be processed too- soon.
The grocery ones and seed garlic have been scrubbed up to be all pretty since the assumption is they won't need to be stored for any period of time and they look more appealing.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 27, 2011, 04:36:22 PM
This is awesome! Great job..

Thanks.

I got worn out in the heat a couple times this weekend and crashed on the porch of Lizzie's (the little house in my backyard) in front of a fan.  Looking up I was treated to an ant's eye view of the hanging softneck garlic (and a small number of elephant garlic heads). 

:)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011550.jpg)

(as well as my redneck gourd decor)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on June 27, 2011, 05:04:37 PM
At this prep stage, you really don't want to take any more paper off the heads than you have to- for storage life and general "shrivel avoidance" you want to leave them (the cloves) all bundled up together as snugly as possible.  This is why you should eat the heads in your harvest that are splitting with cloves separating first- they will taste fine fresh but won't retain the moisture over time like a tightly wrapped head.   The garlic on the left side is the remainder of my "eat now" stack; the box on the right is the small amount of hardneck from the harvest. The 200 or so tight softneck heads are still curing but need to be processed too- soon.
The grocery ones and seed garlic have been scrubbed up to be all pretty since the assumption is they won't need to be stored for any period of time and they look more appealing.

Thanks. And don't worry I won't mess with my long term garlic. Separating out the ones that don't store was another awesome piece of advice I gotta thank you for.  I have those hanging separately and I can already tell a difference in the way they are "curing".   ;)

Also, I really like the ant's view of miscellaneous hanging produce. It is made of awesome sauce for sure.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 27, 2011, 08:52:03 PM
Got the toothbrush working on some more of the garlic tonight

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011561.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on June 29, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
Done with the garlic; my main batch of softneck seed stock for next year will come from the front left box.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011571.jpg)

Also, I probed for potatoes a little yesterday and snatched a sample from a couple potato boxes.  It looks like I'll do better than the disappointing effort last year; the bigger one is a yukon gold that weighed almost a full pound.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011570.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 04, 2011, 06:47:49 PM
Jalapenos (phone for scale0 , these are nice sized and warmer than last season's.....  )
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011578.jpg)

Blueberries rewarding patience; to deter the mockingbirds and catbirds I built a tent of bird netting using 3 20 foot sections of pvc conduit as a frame.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011576.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on July 04, 2011, 08:46:17 PM
wonderful... your garden continues to amaze me.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 05, 2011, 07:39:31 PM
wonderful... your garden continues to amaze me.

You are kind J

The tomato train has started rolling into the station finally. 1 Brandywine became 3 became 7 etc....  h

The well is drilled and casing installed; The conduit and piping is in the ground all the way to the house, the electrician in coming tomorrow to wire my generator bypass and pull 230v out to the well head, the pump comes in Thursday.... so with any luck I might be pumping cool well water into the garden within a week.

In the meantime I have a sentry posted - he alerts us about any mammalian trespassing, especially tree climbing rodents with bushy tails.  (Takes his job seriously too. Sometimes annoyingly seriously.)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011579.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on July 05, 2011, 08:14:48 PM
Man that is one big tater! I enjoy watching your progress.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on July 09, 2011, 07:05:46 AM
I love your sentry. I used to have one too. Nothing could enter her domain
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 11, 2011, 08:17:29 PM
Thanks SHM, he is dedicated, unlike his sibling, the cat on my hat:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Kitteh/KittehHat.jpg)


report:

Garlic is sorted and boxed for the "root cellar" (actually my dug basement/crawlspace).  I have a few more shallots drying but the two boxes have about 85% of the harvest - overall a good one.

I'm saving all the elephant garlic for seed; that stuff is damn easy to grow but outrageously expensive per clove when you consider how few one gets in a pound.  I'll go from 5 or 6 this year to about 25 next year plus a couple dozen bulbis things that will be full cloved heads in 2 years.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011595.jpg)


Potato harvest coming in earlier than i planned- the heat really did a number on the vines and when I was stealing another yukon gold I grabbed a putrid rotten one.  Absolutely the rankest thing I've encountered in the garden so far in 3 seasons, even worse than rotten cabbage.
In a panic I pulled all the spuds from the two boxes and medium beds- only one other rotten one. disappointing harvest, yes, but multiple times better than last year's

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011596.jpg)

couple of oddball items included in today's dinner harvest, + okra for scale:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011597.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on July 12, 2011, 05:40:17 AM
Purple corn? very interesting...

I must say you show great restraint where your elephant garlic is concerned... delayed gratification awaits.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 12, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
Purple corn? very interesting...

I must say you show great restraint where your elephant garlic is concerned... delayed gratification awaits.

Blue Jade from SSE.  Grows 2-3 ft tall and yields 2-3 ears of this mini corn. It is relatively sweet as well.  It was a novelty i thought i'd try; the ears shown on the SSE page were a little more robust
http://www.seedsavers.org/Details.aspx?itemNo=1194%28OG%29

On the EG, I had one huge round that didn't clove. It was around 3-4 inches in diameter and a couple inches tall, looked just like and onion.  I pulled it apart from the others to research and Mrs cohutt sliced it up like it was an onion.  DOH!  I was going to replant it this fall and see the most colossal head of EG ever next spring (it would clove up in a big way the 2nd year).  So much for that.
So I made EG + Potato soup out of it, quite tasty.   I'm going to plant a bunch of leeks to winter over after tasting it.... .
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Remman on July 13, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
WOW!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 17, 2011, 07:05:18 PM
A growing portion of the back yard garden area is now a luch green jungle

Out the back window looking to the back:
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011692.jpg)

And vice versa:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011684.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 17, 2011, 07:07:57 PM
I almost forgot: the tomato train has started pulling into the station, 3 of these in 2 days:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011691.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Nicodemus on July 17, 2011, 07:08:50 PM
That is spectacular! Nice work. It's inspirational.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 17, 2011, 07:53:33 PM
That is spectacular! Nice work. It's inspirational.

Thanks NicoD-
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 19, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
Damnit, harlequin bugs on the pak choi....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden20116975.jpg)

A stink bug that hits cole crops in warmer climates.

(Neem, insecticidal soaps, hand picking. )


Some nice pimento color

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden20116955.jpg)

A potato box gets tipped for harvest (pontiac red)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011693.jpg)

The remnants in a carrot box get cleaned out

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011704.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on July 31, 2011, 06:33:02 PM
I got my first bunch of Romas in about 10 days ago and processed them into sauce using a new gadget - The Victorio tomato press I picked up on amazon a few weeks ago. 

Overall it was a significant time saver and I'll post a full review when I have time.  In the meantime, before/after:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011712.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011729.jpg)

I went away for a week and found another load of Romas waiting for me this morning- I had a couple of people picking when I was gone but they apparently stayed out of the Roma patch.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011732.jpg)

July sun and a little rain for a week and a jungle sprouted:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011731.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on August 01, 2011, 08:01:41 AM
That new gadget looks great! I'm glad you had at least a few   tomatoes for your return home :)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on August 01, 2011, 09:22:01 AM
I really do need to get some garlic in the ground this fall.  It's one of my favorite seasonings and I've never tried to grow it.  Looks great!

How do you know when it's time to start digging up your potatoes?  I've never grown them before and I staggered the planting so some have flowered and are huge, while others are still pretty small and haven't flowered.  I also have one that's looking pretty bleak after taking the worst of a small hail storm a couple weeks ago.  Any suggestions?

I really like the way you bedded the carrots and potatoes.  Sure makes life easy at harvest time.  I have some work cut out for me this year, but I'm going to be doing new beds similar to yours next year.  Lesson learned.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on August 01, 2011, 09:36:17 AM
Everything looks great.

So, for your sauce, what do you do?  Is it just tomato or do you add in other stuff?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 01, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
I really do need to get some garlic in the ground this fall.  It's one of my favorite seasonings and I've never tried to grow it.  Looks great!

How do you know when it's time to start digging up your potatoes?  I've never grown them before and I staggered the planting so some have flowered and are huge, while others are still pretty small and haven't flowered.  I also have one that's looking pretty bleak after taking the worst of a small hail storm a couple weeks ago.  Any suggestions?

I really like the way you bedded the carrots and potatoes.  Sure makes life easy at harvest time.  I have some work cut out for me this year, but I'm going to be doing new beds similar to yours next year.  Lesson learned.

I am still learning with potatoes - this is a good ref though: http://www.ronnigers.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/2010rpfguidecover.pdf

Note: Ronningers now can be found under http://www.potatogarden.com/  - good outfit imho
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 01, 2011, 04:14:52 PM
Everything looks great.

So, for your sauce, what do you do?  Is it just tomato or do you add in other stuff?


I mince a lot of garlic, add fresh basil & oregano and have started adding a modest shallot or two per pot.  And salt.

You can expand from here ie add meat or other spices when you consume it though.  We just really like the "fresh" flavor of the tomatoes compared to anything commercial.  sometimes simpler is better, especially when you have the absolute freshest ingredients.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on August 02, 2011, 06:25:44 AM
I was thinking that you were making paste, I don't know why my mind did that.  We have a sauce that we love that I'm going to make it easy on myself by canning or freezing the ingredients in the proper ratios.  That way it is just a matter of thawing and cooking.  The pain was always that the prep too so long.

I did some processing last year using one of those strainers with the wooden stick that you force the tomato through the sieve.  Yours looks like it would be much easier.  I'll be looking forward to your review.

I missed your original post about the potato and carrot beds.  How deep are they and did you use Mel's mix or something similar in those?  We have issues with carrots and haven't tried potatoes yet.  Think I'm too late to give potatoes a shot?  I have 12 weeks until my average first frost.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on August 02, 2011, 07:51:08 AM
We have issues with carrots and haven't tried potatoes yet.  Think I'm too late to give potatoes a shot?  I have 12 weeks until my average first frost.
Maybe, maybe not.  Potatoes only need 90 days to mature, but they also prefer to be started in cooler soil (50F) and need soil temps under 70F.  Depending on your local conditions, you might have a shot with lots of mulch.

@ Cohutt:  Thanks for the links.  That was great info and got me the answers I needed.  I'll harvest the yellowing one and let the rest of them go for a while.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 02, 2011, 06:41:51 PM
Yes I used mels mix in all my root vegetables - a few mutants here and there because the composted dairy manure had a few small pieces of gravel from the dairy manure mountain area
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on August 02, 2011, 09:28:56 PM
Hey neighbor, when are you going to start seeds for your fall garden?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 02, 2011, 10:40:17 PM
started about 10 days ago - later than i wanted for some
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on August 03, 2011, 06:11:17 AM
started about 10 days ago - later than i wanted for some
You and me, both.  Other than green beans, I don't have any seeds started for Fall.  I'll pick up a bunch of broccoli starts if I can find them.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on August 03, 2011, 09:12:43 AM
started about 10 days ago - later than i wanted for some

Crap. I had a feeling you were going to say something like that. I better break the soil cube out tonight.

You and me, both.  Other than green beans, I don't have any seeds started for Fall.  I'll pick up a bunch of broccoli starts if I can find them.


Yeah, I'll be buying starts for some as well.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 03, 2011, 09:02:19 PM
I plan on having a couple of large covered beds of greens for the whole winter-  having more to graze upon makes up for the short days and slow growth.  lettuce spinach, chard, kale, turnip greens.  The arugula I let go to seed and been sprouting up all over the place.  I see it around and subconsciously think "broad-leaf weed needs pulling" then the aroma fills the air if it gets stepped on or bumped.  Pretty nice actually.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on August 05, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
I plan on having a couple of large covered beds of greens for the whole winter-  having more to graze upon makes up for the short days and slow growth.  lettuce spinach, chard, kale, turnip greens.  The arugula I let go to seed and been sprouting up all over the place.  I see it around and subconsciously think "broad-leaf weed needs pulling" then the aroma fills the air if it gets stepped on or bumped.  Pretty nice actually.
You're lucky to be able to grow that stuff in the winter.  The only thing that grows around here in December through March is the size of the snow drifts.  That's why I'm hoping to get a green house in sometime in the next five years.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 05, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
It isn't automatic- the hooped scheme i used last year worked ok but needs some improvement.  We had several nights into the teens, I think our lows were around 13-14 for the season.  I kept most of it going with attention to the cover and supplemental heat from a 300W halogen shop light.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on August 05, 2011, 04:01:38 PM
I'm just hoping to have a few hoop beds so I can plant in late April to early May.  Then again, I still have lettuce in the garden that hasn't yellowed or bolted, so there is balance in the universe. ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 11, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
sorry updates have been lacking of late.  Be careful what you wish for, cuz the garden avalanche is requiring much time in harvest & processing plus the peak garden inspection, pest control, maintenance regimen. 

The big winners this year are tomatoes (brandywine and romas) jalapenos, yellow and pattypan squash, cucumbers, and now Christmas limas are cranking up.

Been making / canning sauce and salsa, plus "sun drying" romas in the convection oven.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on August 11, 2011, 02:13:53 PM
...

Been making / canning sauce and salsa, plus "sun drying" romas in the convection oven.

Oh, you need a dehydrator!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 11, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
Oh, you need a dehydrator!

yeah i know, but I already added 2 bulky processing items this year and mrs cohutt is the anti-clutter person.   

next yr......
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 12, 2011, 08:07:12 PM
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011739.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: BassManNate on August 12, 2011, 08:19:10 PM
yeah i know, but I already added 2 bulky processing items this year and mrs cohutt is the anti-clutter person.   

next yr......

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's the same reason I have to be careful about stuff like that. Although, we have our first child on the way in a few weeks and I don't know if my OCD wife will be able to handle the grandparents bringing all kinds of toys over   ;D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 12, 2011, 08:57:07 PM
1st one on the way?  lol, She has yet to see clutter
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: BassManNate on August 13, 2011, 02:35:00 AM
1st one on the way?  lol, She has yet to see clutter
lol! That's what I keep trying to tell her. It's rare that you walk into a house with a baby and it's as nice and neat as she would like her own home.  ::)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 14, 2011, 01:05:40 PM
Thai Basil, the best late season beneficial attractor I have come across- constant blooms, unlike sweet basil, this is a a woody plant that grows into a small bush.   I have 2 types- this and one that puts out purple blooms is the same "stacked umbrella" way that sweet basil does.   Each plant blooms constantly from mid July until the first freeze.

Tasty and aromatic too, the seeds/flowers smell like a basil/licorice mix.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011750.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on August 14, 2011, 04:33:26 PM
Those dried tomatoes look great! (Nice basil, too)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 14, 2011, 07:56:48 PM
Thanks...

That's the good


this is the bad:

pickleworm in cucumbers

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011749.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 16, 2011, 09:01:07 PM
I'm thinning runners and using them to add 2 or 3 additional beds of strawberries for next year.   This little bed is only 2 x4; tonight I moved and prepped a 2x7 bed that was getting too much shade from a camellia bush (lumber ends and scraps is how one ends up with a 2x7 bed lol).  The makeshift cucumber square in beside it will be moved this winter; I tried to get some bushel basket gourds to germinate there but had no luck.  The cucumbers were an afterthought but have been a great addition (except for the modest number of wormy ones). The two odd boxwoods will be moved this winter too - I put the 2/7 bed on the other side of them for now.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011753.jpg)

Additionally, I manager to prep what will be my main lettuce/spinach greens covered bed this winter.   This evening I seeded everything - hopefully my timing is right, I guess we'll know soon enough.

I left the one Fordhook Giant chard plant there - it is a year old now and has perked up quite a bit since I started watering this bed (after the picture. I'll gut it at the base and it should provide a good burst of fresh greens in the next month or so.


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011757.jpg)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 17, 2011, 08:55:31 PM
I'll put this in the "see how it works" experiment category.

Tiny corn stand came and went, I left the supporting frame up, removed the central stalks, and trimmed all the leaves off the outside stalks.

Sugar snap peas are planted along both sides of the bed

Instant trellis?

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011764.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011763.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Cedar on August 17, 2011, 10:10:52 PM
pickleworm in cucumbers

I have never seen a pickleworm in my life. We must not have them here?

Cedar - who is a basil junkie
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 18, 2011, 04:26:51 PM
I have never seen a pickleworm in my life. We must not have them here?

Cedar - who is a basil junkie


Yeah I had no idea. 

The moths are killed back each winter to south Florida by the cold. As things warm they move north with the season; the further south you are the earlier they arrive.   By late summer they are a lot further north than here in N GA.
Not sure if they do it in central and western areas too or if it is just an eastern thing.  You might be far enough north regardless.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 18, 2011, 07:49:24 PM
Poblanos doing much better than last year's try

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011778.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011775.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on August 30, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
I got stuck in Florida on business for all of last week and I'm behind of both the garden and the garden updates.

Some pics for catch up:


Loofah gourd:
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011790.jpg)

poblano harvest

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011786.jpg)

more peppers

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011783.jpg)

redneck irrigation- hi-tech

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011800.jpg)

For fall, sugar snap peas sprouting at base of old corn stalks

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011787.jpg)

For fall, the three beds i am going to cover. Left, planted in spinach, lettuce, chard.  Middle, planted in sugar snap peas along the concrete re-wire trellis with two still very productive brandywine plants.  Right, the last of the romas were pulled tonight.  The middle and right beds will have some brassicia plantings as well as some additional spinach and some kale.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011797.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on September 01, 2011, 07:09:08 PM
looks so great. I look forward to hearing about your experience with the loofah gourd... very interesting.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 05, 2011, 06:16:43 PM
RAIN today.

Finally.

3-5" maybe.

Asparagus, from the stone bench at the back fence, looking forward towards the house.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011806.jpg)


And the other direction, towards the back gourd fence, with the asparagus on the right, the bean trellis on the left, and brand new turnip greens sprouting in between.


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011808.jpg)


And a peek underneath, the "tree trunks" of the asparagus forest:


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011810.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on September 06, 2011, 04:52:24 AM
Finally got a substantial rain on Saturday, we haven't had a decent rain in over a month. Asparagus is looking good. How old is that bed? My asparagus crop is seriously small compared to your crop. I want to do a bean trellis like that next year I did it on a smaller scale this year.   
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 06, 2011, 06:37:15 AM
AJ,

I put the bed in spring of 2010, so this is second year growth.  We could have harvested a small amount this year but passed to max the bed getting established.  Normal harvest starts next spring- the 3rd spring.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on September 06, 2011, 01:22:34 PM
Asparagus looks great.  I really want to try to get some started next spring.  Do you have an on-line nursery you'd recommend for it?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 06, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
I think it was "jersey knight hybrid" 99% male from Parks, but this is available from a lot of places.

Order this winter to be delivered a month prior to past frost, by which time you will have the bed super prepared.  I went into this in the 2010 thread I think - will find link.

in the meantime search Jersey Knight Hybrid

edit to add link to the planting of the bed:
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=12690.msg170818#msg170818
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 08, 2011, 08:51:12 PM
The loofah gourds are getting fatt

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/957b7f6c.jpg)


An i liked the look of the condensation all over my bigger rosemary plant, which is also speckled with tiny white/lavender blooms.  The picture actually didn't do it justice:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/742ab5e6.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on September 08, 2011, 08:56:35 PM
What climate zone are you in, Cohutt?  I did a little looking into Loofahs and it looks like they're a warm climate only plant.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 08, 2011, 09:04:53 PM
I am in N GA, which is supposedly 7 but acts more like 8 sometimes.   Most all gourds need long stretches of hot weather
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on September 08, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Definitely not one for me.  I'm zone 4-5.  I guess I'll have to console myself on things you can't grow, like lettuce in July and August. ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 08, 2011, 09:26:35 PM
Definitely not one for me.  I'm zone 4-5.  I guess I'll have to console myself on things you can't grow, like lettuce in July and August. ;)

I hear you. Lettuce in July and August is fantasy-land here.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 14, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
Kudzu-like limas enjoying the cooler nights and a little moist ground

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/e6542f98.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on September 14, 2011, 11:02:44 PM
Beautiful vines... and productive! Your neighbors must be very jealous.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 15, 2011, 04:57:29 AM
Beautiful vines... and productive! Your neighbors must be very jealous.

I'm not completely certain that beans weren't being picked from the outside on occasion, so some of them might not be jealous after all.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 15, 2011, 08:09:43 PM
Fall herbexplosion

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/48e0555b.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on September 16, 2011, 03:27:56 PM
Congrats on the Kudzu beans! Herb garden looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: WVMan73 on September 17, 2011, 02:48:16 PM
cohutt,

I just finished reading about your incredible gardening journey, all three chapters of it, and I think the only word to really describe it is WOW! The way you've transformed your yard is truly amazing. Not to mention the amount of produce you're getting from it all! Such beautiful and tasty results from your hard work must really make you proud! (and I bet Mrs. C is just as proud of you!)

I've done some SFG also (thought not on the scale you've done), and must say that Mels Mix is really wonderful stuff to work with. It's such nice, loose "soil" and just a pleasure to dig your hands into. lol For the walls of my beds I've used cement blocks. I don't know if you've thought of using them or not, but they work well for me. Very long lasting, heavy enough to dry stack and still hold the soil, plus the small holes in the blocks give you an extra planting spot. (I've found that carrots work great in the holes, and marigolds as well. lol) Just thought I'd give you, and everyone who reads this, another idea for the borders of your beds.

Thank you so much for sharing your garden with us! I've enjoyed every chapter and have really felt like I was there with all of the photos you've posted. I'll be watching for future updates, so you've got one more "neighbore" peaking over your fence. ;) +1 just cause I think you more than deserve it!
 :clap:
WVMan73
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 17, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
WVMan you are very kind to post such exaggerated praise lol

It certainly has been a journey,  no destination in sight either.

I thought about the blocks but Mrs c preferred the stained wood in the front part and has allowed me to leave the wood "natural" in the back.  I'll use them for the above ground portion of a pond I am considering though.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: WVMan73 on September 17, 2011, 06:55:21 PM
It seems that most of the best journeys never have a destination. :)

I can certainly understand her preference for the stained wood. The blocks don't exactly have the prettiest look, but they worked well for me. (I have a garage that is built from them as well, so they actually helped tie the raised beds into the "look" of the place. lol

Above ground pond? Another project for the gardener who never sleeps? ;) I don't know where you buy that bottled energy you seem to drink all the time, but let me know where I can get some of it. lol

WVMan73
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 18, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
"pond" ha
I am currently working to convert to an open loop ground source heat pump( referred to as "geothermal" too) for my house.  "Open loop" means that water from my new well will pump directly through the heat exchangers in the unit so I will have to come up with some way to handle the water on return from the system.  Theoretically I could let it run down the storm sewer but that's not my intent.   

Running a 4 ton system looks like it will require 10-12 gpm.   If it is only "on" 25% of the time that equates to 6 hours or 360 minutes per 24 hr period. @ 10gpm that's 3600 gallons of water to deal with per day.
During peak heating and cooling (ie July/August & January/February) it would run a lot more during the day, and some days I imagine I'd have to do something with as much as 10,000 gallons of water.
When cooling my house the return water will be a lot warmer than the 56 degrees it came out of the ground at; it could be over 100 degrees and too warm for direct use in fish ponds.  Likewise, when heating my house the return water will be a lot cooler than the 56 degrees. 
My initial thoughts are to mimic the power and paper plants around here and set up a small scale retention pond system for the water when it emerges from the system.  With aeration the temperature would come down very quickly in the summer and in the winter solar gain could raise the temperature modestly.
As with the industrial retention ponds, once the water reaches an acceptable temperature and oxygen level it can be returned to the aquifer (or in my case used as "normal" water for irrigation etc..)
From there, who knows. I have a lot of ideas involving a little aquaculture and some permaculture water controls to allow excess to be absorbed and retained in my property.

Hence the reference to "pond"......

I am early in the project though, having run the well sufficiently for a water test for minerals etc; sometime in the next few weeks I will do an aggressive but measured pumping cycle to verify flow rates with the limits of the well under "stress".  I won't be comfortable investing in an expensive hvac system until my true flow rate is verified; the 15gpm estimate of the driller is probably accurate but I'll just have to see.   A lot to do before any ponds are created.....
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: WVMan73 on September 18, 2011, 09:29:41 AM
Now that sounds like quite a project! The aquaculture and permaculture could be a very interesting addition to your backyard farm too. I know that's a ways down the road for this project but I'll be watching to see if you go through with that idea. (My FFA chapter built and ran a hydroponics greenhouse when I was in high school, so those sorts of things are right up my alley.)

Even on the lower end of your scale, 3600 gallons per day is a good bit of water coming out of your system. Of course since it is already being used to heat/cool your home then any secondary use you get from it is basically free. Free water for watering that beautiful garden is definitely a big plus! :)

I hope you'll keep us up to date on what you find out about your well flow and your plans for the "pond" and all that water. I was hooked on your tread already, cohutt, but now with these teasers about projects for the future... I'm here to stay. lol

WVMan73
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 20, 2011, 05:11:15 AM
A couple of mega-jalapeno plants- the one in the front is well over 6'. (picture at dark-thirty with flash is the only way i can get the peppers to show up in a picture)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/f646967d.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on September 20, 2011, 06:14:52 AM
So, do you let them ripen on the plant?  Or are you just waiting for them to get up to the proper size that you like?  I've allowed some to turn red on the plant and they lose some of the heat.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 20, 2011, 06:27:25 PM
Once they quit growing lengthwise and start to get some "shoulders" on them I cut them.   They get a little darker green too.

Also, cutting often means more flowers which means more peppers over the season
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 20, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
Even the stunted plant is loaded:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/e618c747.jpg)

(This is the same variety at the 6 footer back a couple posts and doesn't stand 20" tall. Go figure)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 21, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
bok choi "joy choi"

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/584be83c.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: mikem on September 24, 2011, 10:26:25 AM
Beautiful bok choi.. Also, I'm not sure why, but your asparagus "forrest" cracks me up!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on September 24, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
Beautiful bok choi.. Also, I'm not sure why, but your asparagus "forrest" cracks me up!

Don't laugh, a cub scout troop got lost in there last week......... ;)

Even after wearing gloves my hands are on fire right now, just finished making a few half pints of this:

http://tastykitchen.com/blog/2011/09/candied-jalapenos-cowboy-candy/
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: mikem on September 26, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
that looks delicious!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on September 27, 2011, 07:49:21 AM
Cool recipe.  Looks really good on that burger too.  I am going to have to try that next year. I can only eat so many poppers
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on September 27, 2011, 09:44:11 AM
I sure hope I remember this recipe next year when the jalapeno peppers come in.  Sounds good.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 03, 2011, 05:27:28 AM
Poblano peppers roasting


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Roast%20Poblano/09c77de0.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on October 03, 2011, 09:23:52 AM
Damn those look Yummy, might have to grill the last of my peppers tomorrow night now. LOL

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 03, 2011, 07:50:44 PM
Damn those look Yummy, might have to grill the last of my peppers tomorrow night now. LOL



I was getting them ready to stuff with a veggie cheese mixture. 

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Roast%20Poblano/5b20ff09.jpg)
Delicious with a little fresh cilantro seedlings chopped up on top


(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Roast%20Poblano/6b83c93e.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: mikem on October 04, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
Now I'm starving!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 04, 2011, 07:41:14 PM
Hungry?

Try Pizza night

Fresh dough
olive oil
garlic
gobs of fresh basil
fresh mozzarella
fresh Parmesan
Fresh sliced October brandywines
450, convection oven on 20 year old unglazed tiles

in:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/ee5dd51b.jpg)

out:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/73fdf0eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: endurance on October 05, 2011, 08:29:07 AM
out:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/73fdf0eb.jpg)
Not cool.  Not cool at all.  It's 8:30am and I'm already hungry for pizza for lunch.  Totally not cool. ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 05, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
Fall is here.

Fall beds are growing.

Bring it on!

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/1e4f2615.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 09, 2011, 09:08:14 PM
I generally don't like it when people just link to posts in their blogs.  BUT I'm going to do it for a post that would be a pain to reproduce here due to formatting the large number of pictures.

Tips for roasting peppers, poblanos in this case:

http://cohutt.com/2011/10/09/about-roasting-poblanos/
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on October 10, 2011, 04:56:42 PM
I just finished reading it and was going to comment on it, but figured I'd comment here.  Did you cook them open-faced or did you fill them in and throw cheese on top?

+1 BTW, those look so good Cohutt and awesome write up.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 10, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
I just finished reading it and was going to comment on it, but figured I'd comment here.  Did you cook them open-faced or did you fill them in and throw cheese on top?

+1 BTW, those look so good Cohutt and awesome write up.


Since they were butterflied open it was sort of rolled up and sort of open faced (sort of )- Another couple from the same batch shows a little more detail (they are NOT as small as they look, the picture did funny things with that perspective.  these were sent to the freezer I think



(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Roast%20Poblano/5d07a19d.jpg)

The kicker over everything was the baby cilantro volunteers that gave it all up for the dish right before serving. I've decided that cilantro is best at this stage and should be consumed like microgreens. :)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Roast%20Poblano/f353e373.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on October 10, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
I've decided to set aside a garden bed that is just for herbs and a couple flowers.  The reason is I would be working my butt off weeding it of volunteer cilantro and basil.  If I could keep the ground cherries confined to this bed as well, then I'd be getting somewhere.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on October 10, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Very cool. Do you do anything to prepare them for the freezer like wrap them in foil or just put them in the tupperware?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 10, 2011, 07:56:56 PM
Very cool. Do you do anything to prepare them for the freezer like wrap them in foil or just put them in the tupperware?

I think we just tupperdoodled it

they won't be in there long - :)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 10, 2011, 08:02:03 PM
I've decided to set aside a garden bed that is just for herbs and a couple flowers.  The reason is I would be working my butt off weeding it of volunteer cilantro and basil.  If I could keep the ground cherries confined to this bed as well, then I'd be getting somewhere.


I kept the ground cherries out of the bed they were in last year; didn't matter- they were everywhere- bird must have been carrying them off to eat and dropping them as they flew.

I'm going to do the dedicated reseeding annuals beds next year too.  Doesn't look like the basil will be a problem though, since I didn't start but a couple plants this year- all the rest were volunteers. Same with the Marigolds and TOmmie-Toes.  And new zealand spinach.  Arugula is coming up all over now too, and a couple of wild french breakfast radishes. 
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on October 11, 2011, 07:11:23 AM
I think Fresh cilantro is my favorite spice/garnish   Seems to really work with Sooooooo many dishes.

Awesome stuff Cohutt.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on October 11, 2011, 11:35:27 AM
a couple of wild french breakfast radishes.
I forgot all about those.  I allowed a dozen or more of the radishes to go to seed.  I wonder if I'll get them coming up this Fall or next Spring.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 12, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
My 9'+ okra before i retired it, spent but producing up to the end.

[img width= height=]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/75f11a60.jpg[/img]

Amazing how much a handful of these plants can produce.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on October 13, 2011, 05:01:45 AM
My okra is only about 6' tall, but it is still producing.  I'm not harvesting anymore, I'm allowing them to mature to harvest seed.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 13, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
My $1.50's worth of "bulk" packed seed from a local country seed and feed store only had about 4-500 seeds in it.  I used about a dozen and ate okra at least 2-3 times a week for almost 3 months.   

Lol, it's low on my seed need list right now.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on October 13, 2011, 06:33:48 PM
I don't save it because I need it.  It's all for the experience.  I'm also trying to get my burgundy okra acclimated to my area.  Maybe in a couple years I'll be offering Fritz MonrOkra on Seed Savers.  ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 16, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Beans & Micro-greens:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/3e6413eb.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/654b84f3.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/dd07ae95.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 18, 2011, 04:47:43 AM
Thai basil, again.   This stuff thrives late in the season; it doesn't peter out like some of the sweet basils.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/934f2c35.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/a94de99d.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on October 18, 2011, 05:08:34 AM
Cool, what kind of basil is that?  Mine all flower green.  I like the purple better.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 18, 2011, 07:17:28 PM
It is Thai basil -

It has a licorice flavor to it- nice addition to a lot of dishes but takes some getting used to if all you've ever had is standard sweet globe basil.

This shot shows the size of that plant (in the front left).

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/0f75f39f.jpg)

This is the same plant pictured above 4 months ago on June 14th - it was a volunteer from last year

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011501.jpg)

It is a woody plant that reseeds itself quite well.  Blooms from late june all the way to frost, more every week.  I have another similar type too that  has purple/gold flowers in clusters vs the stacked umbrella look typical of basil.

The "other" similar type:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/Garden2011750.jpg)

I'll send a few thousand seeds your way if you would like to have it in your garden forever.  ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 18, 2011, 07:23:57 PM
I forgot about this type of basil too-  it is a purple leafed sweet basil variety i bought in a big box seed rack for the hell of it.  Good flavor with nice color.  The pesto with this was my favorite out off all mrs cohutt made, even with the unusual color of the finished product.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/74407d46.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 23, 2011, 09:10:59 PM
Today I started working through the high tunnel idea I have for the rear beds this year:

[img width= height=]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/7b5fbd42.jpg[/img]
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on October 24, 2011, 08:19:00 AM
That looks awesome Cohutt and your plants are so healthy!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 24, 2011, 06:56:15 PM
That looks awesome Cohutt and your plants are so healthy!

I'll have to agree with you on the plants- this fall has been good so far.  :)

Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 24, 2011, 07:01:17 PM
Marigolds, the final pepper harvest and another basil harvest....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/f4115602.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/f95468e7.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/4c840e57.jpg)

(The pepper harvest was 26 large poblanos and another 77 jalapenos. )
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on October 25, 2011, 07:19:59 AM
everything looks wonderful. I look forward to seeing how the tunnel works out.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on October 30, 2011, 06:47:02 PM
everything looks wonderful. I look forward to seeing how the tunnel works out.

Thanks.

Made some progress- the laterals are in, the main skin is up and pulled tight over the ribs, and the wooden "foundation" border is roughed in.  The ends will be my next step.  One will have a door of some sort and one will have a framed auto vent.

I'll post a step by step on the blog and/or here once I'm done, but in the meantime here's a shot I took at dusk before coming in and chowing down on stuffed poblanos.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/26d105ec.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 01, 2011, 05:04:46 PM
This part of the forum sure slows down this time of year lol

But I remain undeterred:

Winterbor kale from Johnny's

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/88598fc7.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/6fad5deb.jpg)

and the lettuce patch:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/1f687cae.jpg)

We've had several nights @ freezing and all the lettuce & greens have sweetened up a bit
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on November 02, 2011, 04:19:31 AM
This part of the forum sure slows down this time of year lol
But I remain undeterred:

Yes it does.. I keep checking in on you to see how things are going. You keep me motivated and give me some good ideas and info that I can use next year.  ;D
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on November 02, 2011, 08:13:53 AM
Awesome hoop house Cohutt! And I am so jealous of that Kale.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 02, 2011, 07:01:40 PM
Thanks guys.

The kale should taste a little better raw now- the young stuff I thinned was pretty good in salads but as it got bigger it got funky in a bitter brassicia kind of way.  a little frost / cool weather is supposed to fix that.

Worst case I have some awesome garnish for the tg  turkey.  ;)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 06, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
Polytunnel closer to completion:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/dd1abcdc.jpg)

closeup of auto vent opener from the inside:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/598e2f5f.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: LvsChant on November 10, 2011, 06:26:49 AM
Wow... very cool project! I think that could go in the greenhouse category.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: fritz_monroe on November 10, 2011, 07:06:34 AM
So, where did you get that window opener?

The entire thing looks awesome.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 11, 2011, 03:53:05 PM
The opener came from Groworganic.com, peaceful valley farm and garden
http://www.groworganic.com/growing-supplies/greenhouses/greenhouse-vent.html

It was the best deal I could find on one- not a heavyweight one but quite adequate for this application.

I'm not at home right now- last night we had a freeze to about 29-30 so I probably lost the last of my summer leftovers- basil, NZ spinach, beans

Yesterday is was extremely windy as the cold front came in. At 4:00 the outside temperature was a little under 60; inside it was almost 70.  (The window was closed)

The night before I finished sealing the back (blog post details) and harvested my first broccoli head along with the nightly jumbo salad cuts.  (check out the massive "Fordhoork Giant" Chard leaf living up to it's name....)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/b5961c94.jpg)

the garbage can @ the back corner is a temporary heat sink:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/f5a05ce3.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: WVMan73 on November 12, 2011, 09:30:59 AM
Looking great Cohutt! That should really extend your growing season.

BTW, I don't know if you've thought of this or not (you probably have) but thought I'd mention it. If you get a cold snap and need some extra protection you can cover the small hoops over the individual beds inside the cold frame. Basically making a greenhouse inside a greenhouse. The big tunnel will keep the temp up a certain amount, and the smaller tunnels will keep it higher yet. Just in case it gets cold enough to worry about it. lol

WVMan73
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 13, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
Thanks, I have considered that. I know of some that use row covers inside of the hoop house vs just more plastic.

Everything seemed to do fine inside while I was away and we had two freezes under 27...

The Thai basil is all fried as are the remaining lima bean plants (as expected).
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 26, 2011, 04:14:07 PM
Good pecan year for the large tree hanging over part of the backyard.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/ce2ddc3d.jpg)

Door up on the hoophouse

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/7aff174e.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/b092ed69.jpg)

Another heatsink water barrel and the ajo rojo garlic bed

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/ae1368d1.jpg)

Things are growing well inside although I let the temp get too warm initially and have broccoli that wants to flower too fast and some bolting lettuce.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/e3d6c541.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on November 28, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
It has been a while since I have checked out this thread...

Holy crap Cohutt!!! you have done one hell of a lot of work this year.

Looks fantastic!!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on November 29, 2011, 05:20:33 AM
Thanks Greywolf.  I feel it too.

Also lost 11 lbs eating healthy from the yard this year. Go figure.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: average_joe on November 29, 2011, 06:24:37 AM
Nice set up Cohutt. Congrats on the weight loss!
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on December 11, 2011, 07:31:14 PM
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/9e4beca4.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/96e603cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on December 11, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
How beautiful. How big of a temp difference are you seeing between outside and inside....day and night?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Roswell on December 11, 2011, 08:17:39 PM
That is awesome Cohutt! Beautiful growth.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on December 11, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
How beautiful. How big of a temp difference are you seeing between outside and inside....day and night?

Day is 12-20+ depending on how sunny it is.  I have actually had issues with bolting that I wasn't expecting due to under venting initially.
Night seems to be about 3-7 if it is
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on December 11, 2011, 08:21:47 PM
That is awesome Cohutt! Beautiful growth.

Thanks Ros.  I'll definitely have some version of this thing from now on.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on December 12, 2011, 05:22:19 AM
I'm really considering moving to a warmer state.   I love my winters in Iowa, but DANG I'm jealos of the growing seasons.  ;D 
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: WVMan73 on December 12, 2011, 09:22:53 AM
Looking great Cohutt! That's some beautiful cabbage you've got going there. I planted some this year, had the biggest, fullest, nicest looking cabbage plants you've ever seen, but not one of them got a head on it. lol Oh well, live and learn. Do you know what variety those you have are?

I'm really considering moving to a warmer state.   I love my winters in Iowa, but DANG I'm jealous of the growing seasons.  ;D 

I feel the same way Doc. Not sure I'd want to give up the winters, but Cohutt is sure making me drool over his winter garden!

WVMan73
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on December 18, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
Sorry I missed your reply for so long.

I forget the variety; I got them as plants from a nice rural seed & feed store owned by my assistant's parents.  Two different types actually.  I noticed  one smaller one was beginning to turn square Saturday and harvested it (squaring off when they start to bolt). Pretty tasty.
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on December 18, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
A few looffah gourds still haven't started to really dry yet but are secure on the vine:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/df1b27cd.jpg)

Some are dry and skinned, ready for bleach solution rinse and use:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/a0dbac99.jpg)

Volunteer arugula plant, looking better than any I have purposely planted lol:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/1ae88a82.jpg)

Cabbage and bok choi on their way in for dinner Satruday and then as part of the massive garden stir fry:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/1007d78e.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202011/b5c440d6.jpg)



 
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: WVMan73 on December 19, 2011, 09:42:40 AM
Ok now you're just trying to make us all hungry! (and it's working. lol)

You just keep amazing, Cohutt! Almost Christmas and you're harvesting fresh garden veggies!
Truly an inspiration to us all!  8)

I still have no idea what happened to my cabbage this year, unless it was a lack of some nutrient in
the soil. I'm going to switch to a different spot next year and add more compost. Hopefully I'll get
a few beauties like you're getting.  ;D

WVMan73
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on December 19, 2011, 04:31:47 PM
This year my cabbage are doing substantially better than last- the cover over the last month may have helped some but I really think it was:

2nd year of soil building (ie more compost in the mix
steady supplemental watering with the new well. 

I think the water was the real key- everything did better this year even though it was hot and dry
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 06, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
Foto update:

brussel sprouts
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/435ce635.jpg)

17 degrees frozen greens, frozen arugula
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/5ec3d0d7.jpg)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/6aa337e5.jpg)

next day thawed greens, thawed arugula
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/a742b0cf.jpg)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/69c1cd65.jpg)

winter sky
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/b97822ed.jpg)

MORE pecans
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/309b1431.jpg)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Garden%202012/d049a43b.jpg)


Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Docwatmo on January 06, 2012, 05:47:51 PM
How many pecan trees do you have?  Thats a LOT of pecans.  :)
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: cohutt on January 06, 2012, 08:03:16 PM
How many pecan trees do you have?  Thats a LOT of pecans.  :)


LOL, are you ready?

1


Actually, only about 40% of the pecans fall into my yard, the other 60% hit my neighbors....

There was a huge yield this year....  I had collected a couple of buckets and there were still more than half in the tree.  Then on the Thursday before Christmas we had a freak thunderstorm that produced a tornado touching down about 3 or 4 miles from my house.  The number of nuts that blew out was amazing; mostly they were hitting the back on my house and collecting on the patio.  I got out the leaf blower backpack and herded them into that pile and spent a while on Christmas eve collecting and sorting them.  My sister took two of the cat litter buckets home with her before the picture too...

a post from 6 weeks ago with a pic of the tree: http://cohutt.com/2011/11/22/thank-you-industrious-post-war-baby-boomer-squirrels/
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on February 29, 2012, 05:47:01 PM
Youz been quite... any updates?
Title: Re: Cohutt's Garden Chapter 3 (2011)
Post by: Greywolf27 on February 29, 2012, 05:48:23 PM
And... I'm in the wrong thread.... *sigh*
long day...