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Title: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: ablaut on March 03, 2011, 08:07:27 PM
I have the Tapatalk (http://www.tapatalk.com/) app on my iPhone. If you're unfamiliar with it, it basically just displays forum posts in mobile-friendly formatting. I see there is an Android version, too.

Has anyone considered making this forum Tapatalk compatible? It's just a forum plugin. I just installed it on my forum, which is also running SMF 1.1.11. With as many users as this site has, there got to be at least one other person who would enjoy this :)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 06, 2011, 02:19:14 PM
Has anyone considered making this forum Tapatalk compatible?

Thanks for the suggestion, ablaut -- I'm checking into it.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: survivalmz on June 02, 2011, 11:44:01 PM
I'll second the request for Tapatalk.
This was one of the first things I checked after joining.
It would be really great if the admins would consider adding this functionality to the forum.
Tapatalk really transforms the forum viewing experience on a mobile device. I have the iphone and ipad2 and the mobile versions of forums are OK, but honestly I belong to a lot of forums, but when I am out and only have my phone, I only go to forums that are on Tapatalk. It definitely has me spending more time on those forums interacting and posting and reading. the experience is much richer.
I think one view is that for a mobile device, that features need to be removed or dumbed down to make it more simple. The Tapatalk experience is just the opposite. It creates an optimized experience on the mobile device. WELL worth the $3 I spent. I actually like the experience better than the full destop browser for some things. In particular, the "latest unread" page has 3 sections: unread, all and "participated" which is a slick way to just see threads you are involved in.
it does work with Simple Machines Forums:
http://tapa.tk/forum/showthread.php?t=2577
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=358680.0

Anyway - great forum - would love to see this enhancement
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 03, 2011, 11:15:38 AM
Tapatalk is still on our "maybe" list, when we have time to install and test it.  Also, we're waiting for Tapatalk and SMF to jointly get their act together (e.g., the latest Tapatalk version for SMF was released 2 months ago but is still not on the official SMF modifications list).
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: erdoc11 on June 17, 2011, 08:55:36 PM
+1 on Tapatalk. Admins don't be hesitant, I've put it on several of our companies forums running on SMF and it functions as advertised and has not caused a single problem. No increase in server load. Increase in membership was noted almost immediately. It's a great way to enter the huge mobile market/audience.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: redone451 on August 11, 2011, 09:14:18 AM
+1 Tapatalk is great! I travel alot and it is by far the best way for me to keep up with my favorite forums.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: redone451 on September 14, 2011, 02:46:04 PM
anything new on this front? would love to have acess to the forum through an app, whichever one it is.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: cincycityslicker on September 19, 2011, 11:16:56 AM
anything new on this front? would love to have acess to the forum through an app, whichever one it is.

Tapatalk would be awesome!! 
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on September 19, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
Tapatalk is currently at version 3.0.0, released in July.  But the SMF site currently has only version 1.3.0, released in December of last year.  The newer versions are not SMF-approved modifications.  We have no idea what the problem is between the SMF programmers and Tapatalk, but TSP Forum cannot be a beta-test site, especially for software which integrates itself so deeply into the SMF code.

Sorry, we will not be installing Tapatalk any time soon.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Smurf Hunter on September 19, 2011, 03:39:29 PM
Tapatalk is currently at version 3.0.0, released in July.  But the SMF site currently has only version 1.3.0, released in December of last year.  The newer versions are not SMF-approved modifications.  We have no idea what the problem is between the SMF programmers and Tapatalk, but TSP Forum cannot be a beta-test site, especially for software which integrates itself so deeply into the SMF code.

Sorry, we will not be installing Tapatalk any time soon.

That's a bummer.

What if any similar apps are currently supported with SMF?  This is the only forum I regularly use which I have not found an iPhone supported app for.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on September 19, 2011, 04:31:18 PM
What if any similar apps are currently supported with SMF?  This is the only forum I regularly use which I have not found an iPhone supported app for.

I can't find much of anything. :(  SMF development had a big slowdown over the last few years.  Sorta seems like it was all they could do to get version 2 finished, and they pretty much missed the huge increase in smartphone use for internet access.  But I'm just guessing.

(Issues like this make me wonder whether it would be desirable and feasible to switch to a different forum software entirely.  This is a pretty terrifying prospect, though.  Even our recent attempted update from SMF 2.0 RC5 to 2.0 Final caused a brief disaster.  In the short run, we're keeping things pretty much the way they are, because they're working.  In the long run, who knows?  But I'll keep my eye open for improvements that would help our mobile users.)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: cliffyp on February 10, 2012, 07:01:29 PM
Just bringing this back up so you mods know there's still interest. I do everything from my iPhone or iPad, never one of those relics. The apps make adding photos to post possible. Hope you guys can sort it out.
Title: Tapatalk
Post by: Cyremann on March 10, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Sorry if this has been requested before, a search returned 0 results.

I find that the Tapatalk app makes it much easier to use forums from my phone. It appears to be simple to install for SMF.
Is there any chance we could get this activated?

SMF Tapatalk Mod: http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2504 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2504)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 11, 2012, 12:36:25 PM
There have been two issues holding us back on Tapatalk.  This was one:

...The newer versions are not SMF-approved modifications.  We have no idea what the problem is between the SMF programmers and Tapatalk, but TSP Forum cannot be a beta-test site, especially for software which integrates itself so deeply into the SMF code. ...

Looks like they've finally gotten their act together, and the current version of Tapatalk is SMF-approved.  So that problem is solved.

The remaining issue is admin manpower.  Our current installation of SMF has many modifications plus some homemade patches.  We need to update to the latest version of SMF, but last time we tried that, it pretty much destroyed the forum and we had to restore the old version.  So we don't want to add another modification to our current mess.

Tapatalk has moved up to our "maybe" list, but it's going to be a little bit longer before we're ready to give it a try.  Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Smurf Hunter on March 14, 2012, 12:48:04 PM
There have been two issues holding us back on Tapatalk.  This was one:

Looks like they've finally gotten their act together, and the current version of Tapatalk is SMF-approved.  So that problem is solved.

The remaining issue is admin manpower.  Our current installation of SMF has many modifications plus some homemade patches.  We need to update to the latest version of SMF, but last time we tried that, it pretty much destroyed the forum and we had to restore the old version.  So we don't want to add another modification to our current mess.

Tapatalk has moved up to our "maybe" list, but it's going to be a little bit longer before we're ready to give it a try.  Sorry about that.

Don't make me post links to DailyWTF about forking custom code :)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: romeojuliethotel on March 15, 2012, 09:53:10 PM
Keeping the thread alive for implementing Tapatalk.  If you need a beta tester, just let me know.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: slingblade on March 16, 2012, 01:05:21 PM
Mr. Bill, I have a couple of development servers we could test on.  I just got the pro version (whatever it is called?) for the ipad.  It rocks!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 16, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
Mr. Bill, I have a couple of development servers we could test on.  I just got the pro version (whatever it is called?) for the ipad.  It rocks!

Thanks for the offer. :)  I think we've got enough server space available for testing -- just not enough time to do it yet.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on March 18, 2012, 11:21:15 PM
I installed it on my own forum which is still in a test only mode (SMF 2.0).  I'm accessing my forum via the iPhone Tapatalk app and really like it.  So add me to the folks requesting this and willing to beta test etc....

Thanks,

Jesse
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Adam B. on March 19, 2012, 09:02:50 AM
I'm all for a mobile solution to this forum as well. The Android browser is fine for reading posts, but I have stopped posting from the device because it is way too hard. It's very hard to correct mistakes and edit a post, even if my post is only a couple sentences long. No big deal in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather see a functional forum than a broken one that works with mobile devices!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: cliffyp on March 29, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
I'm happy to see so much interest, it gives me hope that this may actually happen. Go Mods go....  Thanks for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Smurf Hunter on March 29, 2012, 02:02:03 PM
Have we reached critical mass yet?
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: The Wilderness on March 29, 2012, 05:41:33 PM
Have we reached critical mass yet?

No.

TW
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Hootie on April 10, 2012, 03:44:35 PM
tapatalk of any mobile view for this forum would be great!

I would then be a TSP junkie  :P
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: inconel710 on May 08, 2012, 09:23:42 PM
Just adding my vote for Tapatalk.  Loving the forum so far.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: bsteimel on May 23, 2012, 09:04:55 AM
+1 for tapatalk.  Just downloaded for a different forum and it is really nice. 
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Hootie on May 23, 2012, 01:43:56 PM
Would it be cheaper and easier to maintain if we just had a 'mobile view' option for this web forum?

Once again i will default to what ever the Mods/TechGuys want, because they would maintain it.  :)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on May 23, 2012, 03:00:24 PM
We didn't forget about this.  Just, nobody has time to attack the project right now.  It's on our list, really, but I'm not sure when it will happen.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on May 24, 2012, 08:52:01 AM
We didn't forget about this.  Just, nobody has time to attack the project right now.  It's on our list, really, but I'm not sure when it will happen.

Glad to hear it is still on the list.  For me, it would increase my participation in the forums - I'm spending more time away from my desk and Tapatalk makes it much easier for me to read / reply on my phone than the normal mobile browser view.

Jesse
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Hoosier on August 23, 2012, 11:46:58 AM
I'm new to the forum and the first thing i did was search on tapatalk for it, then searched here for a reference about it. Look forward to seeing it there as I'm on the road daily and usually check forums while waiting on my next appointment.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Sonny on August 23, 2012, 09:22:28 PM
+1 for Taptalk  Please!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: milkmood on September 14, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Another +1 for Tapatalk.  I use it a lot.  Would be great to have TSP available on it.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on September 14, 2012, 08:24:30 PM
We didn't forget about this.  Just, nobody has time to attack the project right now.  It's on our list, really, but I'm not sure when it will happen.

Any update on when this might be coming?  I'm spending a lot less time in the forums now then I used to - since more of my online time has moved to my mobile device, where I can't access the forums easily :(  TapaTalk would help.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on September 14, 2012, 08:45:20 PM
Any update on when this might be coming?  I'm spending a lot less time in the forums now then I used to - since more of my online time has moved to my mobile device, where I can't access the forums easily :(  TapaTalk would help.

Yeah, we need to join the modern world here.  Everyone seems to love teeny weeny mobile devices.

I'm hoping to be able to put a bunch of time into forum improvements this fall.  Problem is, we've got a rather humongous software upgrade chore to complete before we install Tapatalk or any other new features.  It's coming.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: lukeaz on October 25, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
Any Updates to this?
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on October 25, 2012, 05:16:49 PM
Any Updates to this?

We're getting organized for the aforementioned humongous software upgrade chore.  We didn't forget, it's just going to be a long job.  Hopefully, if we do things right, future upgrades and improvements will be a lot less work.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Skiffgirl on November 07, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
I just rejoined the forum after being away from it for a while. I also searched for it first on tapatalk. I am excited to see the upgrades and future ability to use the forum in tapatalk. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on November 29, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
We're getting organized for the aforementioned humongous software upgrade chore.  We didn't forget, it's just going to be a long job.  Hopefully, if we do things right, future upgrades and improvements will be a lot less work.

Not to be too much of a pest, but any idea on your timeframe for the upgrade? 

Thanks !!!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on November 29, 2012, 04:53:20 PM
Not to be too much of a pest, but any idea on your timeframe for the upgrade? 

Uh... not really. :(

We might be moving the forum to a new server, to deal with the slowness/freezeup problems we've been having.  That's a pretty big job.  But we might also take care of our other software issues at the same time.  Assuming we get all that to work, then we will install Tapatalk.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: smithy1983 on December 16, 2012, 07:06:45 AM
+1 vote for tapatalk :)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: yoshi on April 26, 2013, 05:30:59 AM
I would like to be a pain and vote for this as well.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: bdhutier on August 12, 2013, 01:05:37 PM
I would like to be a pain and vote for this as well.

Me too!!  I use the Survive! app daily, but would LOVE to access more than the last ten posts through an app.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on August 12, 2013, 01:57:48 PM
We might be moving the forum to a new server, to deal with the slowness/freezeup problems we've been having.  That's a pretty big job.  But we might also take care of our other software issues at the same time.  Assuming we get all that to work, then we will install Tapatalk.

How did the migration to the new server go?  Any chance to get Tapatalk on the schedule?  I am much more mobile than I used to be, so I don't read the forums as much as in the past.  Tapatalk would make it much easier for me to keep up...

Thanks for considering this!!

Jesse
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on August 13, 2013, 10:21:26 AM
It's still on our official DAMMIT WE GOTTA GET THIS DONE list. 8)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on August 13, 2013, 11:05:04 AM
It's still on our official DAMMIT WE GOTTA GET THIS DONE list. 8)

Thank you for the refreshingly honest and no BS response.   

I understand the challenges of maintaining software w/customizations and appreciate your work. 

Jesse


Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: chezrad on August 13, 2013, 06:01:39 PM
Thanks for listening!!!

+1 on interest
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: DayDrifter on October 27, 2013, 12:48:45 PM
Look forward to seeing this forum on tapatalk, This would most likely be my most viewed forum if it were. Pushes it to rarely viewed even though I listen to the podcast everyday. Sad to say but sadly honest.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: imapreppr on November 30, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
Taptalk would be nice, but probably not high on the priority list. Stability has to be tops.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Fusilier on February 19, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Any movement at all or even an estimated month when the forums will be available on Tapatalk?
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 19, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
Any movement at all or even an estimated month when the forums will be available on Tapatalk?

There is movement.  I'm working on a from-scratch reinstallation of the forum software now, and I will add Tapatalk to it.  I can't give you an estimated date yet because I don't know how many problems I'm going to run into, but it IS actually being worked on. :)
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: bdhutier on February 19, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
Sweet! Thx, Mr. Bill!!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: skas on February 19, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on February 26, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
There is movement.  I'm working on a from-scratch reinstallation of the forum software now, and I will add Tapatalk to it.  I can't give you an estimated date yet because I don't know how many problems I'm going to run into, but it IS actually being worked on. :)

Glad to hear it is in progress.  I've stopped following TSP forums as much as I used to - but access via Tapatalk would make it easier and I'd do much more.

Looking forward to it.

Thanks for all your work!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: theBINKYhunter on February 26, 2014, 01:30:11 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Vermiform on April 18, 2014, 01:31:50 PM
There is movement.  I'm working on a from-scratch reinstallation of the forum software now, and I will add Tapatalk to it.  I can't give you an estimated date yet because I don't know how many problems I'm going to run into, but it IS actually being worked on. :)

Any progress on Tapatalk?
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on April 18, 2014, 05:17:50 PM
Any progress on Tapatalk?

Sorry, nothing to report at the moment.  Today's new project for the admins is moving PermaEthos to a new server -- after that, I'll try to get back to the forum upgrade.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Kilo Sierra on October 17, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
Looked for the forum on tapatalk. Would be handy...
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: fobnicat on October 17, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
SMF-media.com has a great mobile theme for SMF.  I use it on another forum I run.  Easy to install without the security issues of tapatalk. Auto detects with option ti return to full.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on October 17, 2014, 02:39:53 PM
oh good to know. my bill and i will check into it once he gets back from a short trip
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: theBINKYhunter on October 17, 2014, 10:13:03 PM
oh good to know. my bill and i will check into it once he gets back from a short trip

Your bill?

Getting a little stingy, aren't we?
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Fusilier on February 13, 2015, 03:10:07 AM
Any update on Tapatalk access. I would be able to view, use and contribute a lot more if I could use an app like Tapatalk.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: bdhutier on February 17, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: slingblade on February 17, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
I would be willing to help implement it if you need a hand.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on February 17, 2015, 02:56:57 PM
this means an entire upgrade of the SMF software the forum runs on. and then updating all of the custom changes we've made.  Mr Bill and I are looking into what would need to be done.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 17, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
this means an entire upgrade of the SMF software the forum runs on. and then updating all of the custom changes we've made.  Mr Bill and I are looking into what would need to be done.

Oh, I know what needs to be done.

It's sorta like THIS BIG but it really will get done... um... real soon now...
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: mattbn73 on February 18, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
I actively contribute a lot to another forum,  multiple times a day, whose content I care about far less than TSP.  It's just possible on mobile with the other forum because theyr'e on tapatalk.  They drug their feet for a while, but now that theyr'e on, I contribute far more and am substantially more connected.  It's not just "more convenient for mobile".  It's *the* best way to use the forum.  Period.

Are there really people in 2015 who don't use their smart phone about 95% more than a desktop machine for social interaction, like forums or facebook?

I appreciate all of the volunteer efforts.  There's no way I could do any of it, and I know that it's a great undertaking.

I just think it needs to be considered that the ROI for time on this project is probably exponentially more beneficial than just about anything that could be done for getting the TSP message out there.  It's the modern forum-equivalent of trying to get a message out without youtube or facebook presence.

I listen to TSP everyday but almost never use the forum.  I don't sit at computers anymore, and I use my phone far less than most people.

Thanks again for all you do to make this forum work.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on March 16, 2015, 09:08:50 PM
I listen to TSP everyday but almost never use the forum.

Agreed.  I don't have the computer time I once did to hang out in forums, but if I could access via Tapatalk, I could do it from my mobile.

I appreciate all of the volunteer efforts.  I maintain some Wordpress sites and doing upgrades w/plugins and customizations in place is not easy.  I know that it's challenging.

Having said that, this thread started in March of 2011.  Any chance "real soon now" means anytime in the foreseeable future :)  Anything we can do to boost the priority?  Do we need a kickstarter campaign?

Jesse
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 17, 2015, 09:59:32 AM
Any chance "real soon now" means anytime in the foreseeable future :)

Um... After I get income taxes finished?

I'm really sorry for the delay.

Is anyone here old enough to remember Jerry Pournelle's repeated use of "Real Soon Now" in his Chaos Manor articles for BYTE Magazine?
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on March 17, 2015, 10:18:41 AM
a kickstarter campaign.. hmm. tempting idea.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on March 17, 2015, 11:37:11 AM
Bill and I are committing ourselves to get this started the first week of April.
(we might need to be committed afterwards also).
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Jesse2004 on March 18, 2015, 05:25:13 AM
Thanks for committing to start work the first week in April!!!  I understand this is not a quick project, but please do keep us informed on your progress as you proceed

If you need a beta tester or anything like that, let me know :)

Thanks again!!!
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: theBINKYhunter on March 18, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
Just remember what day April start's with...
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: bdhutier on March 18, 2015, 03:17:28 PM
Just remember what day April start's with...

Not funny!!!   >:(

Well, kind of, lol!  ;D
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on April 26, 2015, 06:33:02 PM
The Tapatalk license agreement (https://tapatalk.com/forum_owner_license.php) prohibits any content that promotes the use of firearms.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: jerseyboy on April 26, 2015, 09:19:21 PM
The Tapatalk license agreement (https://tapatalk.com/forum_owner_license.php) prohibits any content that promotes the use of firearms.

Wow, they squeezed that in there to make guns look like a bad thing. Funny thing is when you go to the 1911forum.com site from a mobile device it asks if you want to download the Tapatalk app.  I would think they have more firearm discussions than we do.

Crazy world
Jerseyboy
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on April 26, 2015, 10:45:35 PM
...Funny thing is when you go to the 1911forum.com site from a mobile device it asks if you want to download the Tapatalk app.  I would think they have more firearm discussions than we do.

Yup, I'm sure there are a lot of forum admins who never read that far down in the license agreement.

I haven't checked, but it's possible that it's a recent change related to their selling ads which appear for Tapatalk users.  Google ads have a similar restriction, and I'm not sure whether it's because of a corporate aversion to firearms, or just a desire to provide a predictable and uniform product to their advertisers.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Chemsoldier on April 26, 2015, 10:52:19 PM
The Tapatalk license agreement (https://tapatalk.com/forum_owner_license.php) prohibits any content that promotes the use of firearms.
pistol-forum.com uses it.  Huh.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: TexDaddy on April 27, 2015, 06:31:10 AM
Others may violate the license agreement. We will not.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on April 27, 2015, 07:26:13 AM
Others may violate the license agreement. We will not.

Agreed, I don't want to get into a situation where they yank our service without warning.  There are some other issues that bother me too, though.  Like, wanting access to our e-mail database -- yes, only so that they can implement certain features, but the wording is vague enough that they could use it for spamming, maybe.  I'm not comfortable doing that with a company whose offices are in Shanghai and Santa Monica.

Sorry, Tapatalk fans.  We will have a new forum theme that should work better on small devices, though.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: theBINKYhunter on April 27, 2015, 08:07:58 AM
I'm pretty sure xdtalk.com used it as well, however kudos to the admins for the integrity and forethought you are showing. One of the reasons I feel this is the best forum on the net.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on April 27, 2015, 08:23:03 AM
they want our email database? no way in hell will we allow that.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: theBINKYhunter on April 27, 2015, 08:54:54 AM
I couldn't think of the name earlier, but I know another one that I've used in the past is  Forum Runner  (http://www.forumrunner.net/). I'm not sure if that's a viable option but I remembered it and wanted to share.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: kckndrgn on April 27, 2015, 12:27:42 PM
Might try contacting Tapatalk about that little line in the license.

Take a look at their "partners", specifically the "Hunting, Fishing and Firearms" sections.  Seems odd that the license would exclude that group but yet, they've partnered with them?
https://tapatalk.com/partners.php
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on April 27, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
Might try contacting Tapatalk about that little line in the license.

Take a look at their "partners", specifically the "Hunting, Fishing and Firearms" sections.  Seems odd that the license would exclude that group but yet, they've partnered with them?
https://tapatalk.com/partners.php


good find. Email sent to them about this discrepancy.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on April 27, 2015, 06:09:43 PM
oh this is great...
What their terms and conditions say:
You agree not to (i) publish, display, disclose, rent, lease, modify, loan, distribute, or create derivative works based on the Service or any part thereof, (ii) reverse engineer, decompile, translate, adapt, or disassemble the Service, including the Plugin, (iii) attempt to create the source code from the object code for the Service or any part thereof, and/or (iv) publish content in or using the Service that (a) violates any applicable law, statute, rule, regulation, ordinance, right of publicity or privacy, (b) promotes violence, the use of firearms, or unlawful subject matter or activities (such as discrimination of protected classes, hate crimes, or copyright circumvention sites), (c) infringes or misappropriates any copyright, patent trademark, trade secret or other proprietary of any third party, or (d) is defamatory, libelous, threatening, deceptive, pornographic or sexually explicit. If you violate this Section, in addition to other rights, we may immediate ban you from the Service and terminate this Agreement.


What I asked:
But how can you have a group of business partners under the section 'Hunting, Fishing & Firearms'? How do you explain this?


The response is:
What is not allowed on Tapatalk are sites that promote use of firearms for unlawful purposes.   Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: kckndrgn on April 27, 2015, 06:11:16 PM
That's funny, guess they need to get a better team of lawyers to re-write the license agreement.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on April 27, 2015, 06:21:53 PM
That's funny, guess they need to get a better team of lawyers to re-write the license agreement.

or quit being jackasses..
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on April 27, 2015, 07:06:45 PM
I couldn't think of the name earlier, but I know another one that I've used in the past is  Forum Runner  (http://www.forumrunner.net/). I'm not sure if that's a viable option but I remembered it and wanted to share.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Unfortunately,
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Forum Runner works on vBulletin, phpBB, IP.Board, myBB and XenForo forums
but not Simple Machines Forum.

We actually considered (briefly) switching from SMF to myBB or something else.  We came to our senses pretty fast, though.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: TexDaddy on April 28, 2015, 07:13:18 AM
Well, if the firearms issue is resolved, this one still bothers me, especially the Shanghai/Santa Monica connection.  :jaw-drop:

...There are some other issues that bother me too, though.  Like, wanting access to our e-mail database -- yes, only so that they can implement certain features, but the wording is vague enough that they could use it for spamming, maybe.  I'm not comfortable doing that with a company whose offices are in Shanghai and Santa Monica...
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: archer on April 28, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
Well, if the firearms issue is resolved, this one still bothers me, especially the Shanghai/Santa Monica connection.  :jaw-drop:


frankly, as far as i am concerned, that is not going to happen.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on May 19, 2015, 04:13:47 PM
So, as noted above, we won't be installing Tapatalk here.

If you're using a smartphone or other small-screen device, you might like to try out the Mobile theme:

(http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/extras/Screenshot-Mobile.jpg)

It's a streamlined, narrow theme designed for smartphones.  For info on how to change your theme, see here (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=29567.msg638259#msg638259).
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: K7JLJ on February 04, 2017, 09:19:25 AM
Is the mobile theme not available anymore? I can't find an option under layout.
Title: Re: Tapatalk for Mobile Viewing
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 04, 2017, 09:39:13 AM
Is the mobile theme not available anymore? I can't find an option under layout.

It's still there.  The "Look and Layout" page should display your current theme near the top, with the word "(change)" next to it.  Click that.

Let me know if you need help.

(Also, I'm going to be experimenting with a new "adaptive" theme that should work better on both large and small screens.  I'll install it as our forum default if it tests out okay.)