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Title: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 09, 2011, 08:46:39 PM
Looks like I will be picking this up in the near future.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VGSi3TsiAv0/TpIpP38fBYI/AAAAAAAABoI/HYy0UFZR4ZM/s912/CJM_0264s.jpg)

Seems to be in excellent shape aside from a few rust spots. No fluid leaks and is clean inside.

More pics later.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on October 09, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Sweet! Cant beat a deuce and and a half. Pretty much run on anything you put down the filler tube.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on October 09, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
 8) definitely a 10 on the cool BOV scale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruQFh_TkPto
Now that's how you test drive a Deuce!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: WVMan73 on October 10, 2011, 09:56:50 AM
Ok I'm officially drooling here! That'll make an awesome BOV!  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 13, 2011, 06:31:28 PM
Put the deposit down today. The fellow is going to go over it to make sure there are no safety problems (cracked tires etc) and we are waiting on the SF97 from the .gov so I can get it titled.

:)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: USMCAllen on October 15, 2011, 06:45:50 AM
Any specific plans? Might I recommend an auxiliary fuel tank? Lol they get about half of zero mpg

Have longed fondly of owning one myself. Nice find will be interesting to see it progress
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 15, 2011, 04:37:25 PM
I plan on putting a 100g aux tank in the back. My plans are to turn it into a camper/bov that way if nothing happens we have a kick ass RV and if it gets bad we don't have to leave our stuff unattended as we travel to the BOL
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 15, 2011, 04:38:41 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RB4ICwHApno/TpIpPWQCsBI/AAAAAAAABn8/3kvoXubkfC0/s1000/CJM_0267s.jpg)
What the inside looks like now

Looking up the stairs
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SbGyV7p0Qdc/TpIpOyYzaqI/AAAAAAAABn0/fwhO6FXeCN8/s720/CJM_0269s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Bradbn4 on October 16, 2011, 01:11:40 PM
I was just thinking - the size of the beast - it could be both a BOV and BOL at the same time. 

I think that truck weight just might fit under the requirement for a commercial license.   No space to store that type of hardware where I live....the best I could to fit in my garage would be a M416...

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 16, 2011, 03:35:37 PM
You are correct that you do not need a CDL to drive it.

No space here so I am using an RV storage lot to keep it. Not my first choice but it is all that I have.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on October 16, 2011, 04:46:22 PM
Absolutely amazing BOV!  I hope you are planning to share pictures once you get it all set up!   BTW:   What is that unit up in the top left of the front wall of the box(directly above and behind where the driver sits)?  Is that some sort of heating unit?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on October 16, 2011, 05:41:38 PM
That is awesome!

Congratulations on the BOV/pseudo-BOL!

 :)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 16, 2011, 10:19:31 PM
that is a heating unit.  :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Pathfinder on October 17, 2011, 04:58:45 AM
missed this thread on the first go-round, but when I saw the title I thought you were getting one of these and I was extremely envious!!!!!!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Egyptian_M109_during_Operation_Bright_Star_2005.jpg/300px-Egyptian_M109_during_Operation_Bright_Star_2005.jpg)

Cool BOV though, looking forward to the thread on fixing it up.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 17, 2011, 05:05:59 AM
This is too cool!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on October 17, 2011, 11:17:10 PM
That is sweet!

I hope you keep this thread updated as you move along!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 23, 2011, 05:17:09 PM
Did some work on it today while the weather was good.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RQu1RsJCWwE/TqSfqSQ7O9I/AAAAAAAABog/hFxETQK0tUE/s1000/CJM_0608.jpg)

Here is a better shot of the van area
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7NOtLytedrE/TqSfqqlB9qI/AAAAAAAABow/UV5g2GabdiM/s1000/CJM_0600.jpg)

Put a fresh coat of paint
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-saIBKCrQj2E/TqSfqqQl5PI/AAAAAAAABoo/5ZqOyfxAZJI/s1000/CJM_0604.jpg)

Looking the other way
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GgeYjWObKGE/TqSfqhcO-uI/AAAAAAAABok/JnoTQW-yTNc/s1000/CJM_0606.jpg)

Next is to put the solid oak hardwood flooring I found on craigslist in. This is a fun project.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on October 23, 2011, 05:42:47 PM
That is too cool. That thing has so much freakin' potential!   :)

Radio and antenna for comms?

Generator? Solar Panels?

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 23, 2011, 06:04:43 PM
gonna put a few hundred watts of solar on the roof and another hundred Ah in batteries in it. I have a few radios that will go it in.

it will be epic :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 28, 2011, 07:38:25 PM
picking it up tomorrow
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on October 28, 2011, 09:12:26 PM
picking it up tomorrow

And you have the whole weekend to play with it.

 :)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on October 29, 2011, 08:12:20 AM
amazing what a little paint can do..
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on October 29, 2011, 09:56:34 AM
What's the square footage in the back there? The wide angle shots are throwing off my spacial relations a little bit.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: soupbone on October 29, 2011, 10:12:20 AM
If you restore the exterior to original military finish, you might be able to license it as a "Special Interest" or Historical Vehicle - Save you a ton of money on licensing fees and maybe insurance.

Nice truck, by the way. They'll get stuck go places no 4X4 would dare to go.

soup

 ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on October 29, 2011, 10:24:27 AM
Here in Jersey you could register it as an antique (over 25yrs old) and as long as you have another vehicle registered as your primary car Antique Ins is 75-100$ a year

Nice paint job really brightens it inside alot
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 29, 2011, 07:22:02 PM
Home..

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pGeXiWg_xZo/TqymErICH3I/AAAAAAAABpM/rBWAUP_XLEU/s912/CJM_1095.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d5nE_ibrs24/TqymE_GlFkI/AAAAAAAABpU/3GrvO7btzSc/s912/CJM_1093.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iGNEcuMFUsc/TqymFCE6sbI/AAAAAAAABpc/MqsRDlcQchk/s912/CJM_1101.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkGAqYAhU9Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkGAqYAhU9Y)
Now I can work on getting it like I want it.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 29, 2011, 07:22:51 PM
What's the square footage in the back there? The wide angle shots are throwing off my spacial relations a little bit.

It is around 86 sqft
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: BrianSTL on October 29, 2011, 07:29:51 PM
Where is the cup holder? 

That is the best BOV I have seen in quite some time. Best of luck, and might consider a 50 cal mount on the top. For show, of course...
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 29, 2011, 07:54:43 PM
Where is the cup holder? 

That is the best BOV I have seen in quite some time. Best of luck, and might consider a 50 cal mount on the top. For show, of course...

No cup holder.. but it still has the two M16 racks in front :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on October 29, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pGeXiWg_xZo/TqymErICH3I/AAAAAAAABpM/rBWAUP_XLEU/s912/CJM_1095.jpg)

So, on the way home, did you notice the sensation of the road in front of you just "opening up"? No one daring to cut you off in traffic? People accelerating or changing lanes to make room for the camo creature in their rear view mirror?

 ;D

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 29, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
The times I did actually catch up to people yes. But most of the times people just slowed down as they passed then moved on. One idiot did pull in front of me while I was on a secondary street and upon realizing I was not slowing down promptly unassed the area in front of me.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on October 30, 2011, 06:27:27 AM
Can't wait to hear what the neighbors think of your purchase!   Ever think about driving that thing in the next 4th of July parade?   A guy in a neighboring town has a WWII era 6 wheeled armored personnel carrier and runs it in the parade....very awesome sight!   
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on October 30, 2011, 06:35:38 AM
Please post pics, cmxterra, as you work on it. I want to see the transformation over time.

 :)

Is it going to get a new color scheme or will that remain the same?

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 30, 2011, 08:12:39 AM
there is a group that runs some mv's  in the 4th parade. Might have to join them.

as for the paint I am not sure. Still deciding.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 30, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
Got some good work done today.

Picked up some 1/4 plywood for the subfloor.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Zgkth_hQ6-w/Tq2yelZSqjI/AAAAAAAABqI/8YjNMxgCvqM/s800/CJM_1142s.jpg)

First piece down.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NFUD6aS5UMQ/Tq2yebun_II/AAAAAAAABp4/6vU_OeuF8fM/s800/CJM_1144s.jpg)

Prepping the metal below the second piece
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Da4_OVmdCGc/Tq2yeBoKLmI/AAAAAAAABpw/cRbF9Vm6Dp4/s800/CJM_1146s.jpg)

All three down and ready to install the hardwood flooring.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wIQ-WpYpOG8/Tq2yeDa-ohI/AAAAAAAABqE/Bm8EnIXKj78/s800/CJM_1147s.jpg)

Wider view
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4rEhDJc5_2A/Tq2yeOyzYAI/AAAAAAAABps/HTsEqXlLgYA/s800/CJM_1148s.jpg)

Started putting down the Hardwood and will post some pics when I get a bit more of it installed.


Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: mikem on October 30, 2011, 02:55:50 PM
This is awesome! Can't wait to see how it progresses. Where are you keeping it while you work on it?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 30, 2011, 03:47:37 PM
Right now I have it at the house. But to keep a wife happy it can only stay here a few days at a time. The rest of the time I found a person here in town with some land that he rents space to RV's and such to keep it.

I wish I had more land here at the house to keep it here all the time. Oh well.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on October 30, 2011, 04:37:03 PM
Man, that thing is lookin' better every day.

(How many BOV's do you know of that have hardwood flooring?!)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 31, 2011, 11:05:17 AM
Starting to look good now.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dtqNOtZ6Ri8/Tq7VFXGv5nI/AAAAAAAABqY/ROXmrhl-fWA/s640/CJM_1152s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: mikem on October 31, 2011, 11:10:02 AM
Indeed it is! I need to get one of these :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on October 31, 2011, 12:11:11 PM
Is this truck the multi-fuel variety?
I know it's bad, but what sort of mileage does it get?
I love the concept, it's a robust truck/camper combination.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 31, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
It is the multi-fuel

I have not had a full tank through it yet but from what I understand it gets about 10mpg or so.

It has a 50gl tank and I am going to add another 50 to 100gl
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on October 31, 2011, 01:45:48 PM
It's the multi-fuel that really makes this truck shine as a bug out vehicle. And 10mpg ain't bad for a truck this big.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on October 31, 2011, 05:51:52 PM
I have not had a full tank through it yet but from what I understand it gets about 10mpg or so.
That would be awesome. My buddy's gets like 500ft per gallon. :o
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 31, 2011, 06:13:47 PM
Got the floor done today. Advil is my friend.

I will get some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 31, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Love the detailed conversion you are doing. Keep the pics coming.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 31, 2011, 07:16:13 PM
It is fun to share the project.

Next on my list is to seal the roof of the camper section. There is some rust up there and it is letting some water in. So I am either going to go the Herculiner route or find some other way to get some rubberized sealant.

I did look at the spray on stuff but they are wanting way more than I have to spend to get it done.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on November 01, 2011, 04:36:20 AM
Your local RV dealer would probably have some products/suggestions for your roof sealer.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 08:21:44 AM
Happy camper.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-efFWXJi-3H8/TrAATXMj5sI/AAAAAAAABqg/1s1oyHYSDww/s800/CJM_1252s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: mikem on November 01, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
(http://blog.opensourcenerd.com/upload/its-beautiful-cat)

What are your other plans for the interior?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 10:03:13 AM
Bunk bed.. Counter top with sink/ cook top.. Cabinets.. Maybe a small flat screen and DVD player.. Small Fridge.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Beetle on November 01, 2011, 10:21:56 AM
My only concern is if someone tried locking you in it. Can you use the smaller windows as an escape hatch? Does that bar dividing the window come out.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 12:12:25 PM
My only concern is if someone tried locking you in it. Can you use the smaller windows as an escape hatch? Does that bar dividing the window come out.

It does
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
Another fun filled day.

Found some roof repair tape (commercial grade) Stuff was expensive 95 bucks for a 4" x50' roll. But buy once cry once on this part (and the spray on liner involved too much crying so I skipped that)

Also you can see some 3M undercarrage spray.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vyXfXuuR0mI/TrA3evAk24I/AAAAAAAABqo/xvbii0m_1fA/s640/CJM_1254s.jpg)

Getting on top
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xuzQY9K83XI/TrA3ezo80PI/AAAAAAAABq8/eiFznpYMFjA/s800/CJM_1257s.jpg)

Prepping the surface
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DJD0q2q4Xlw/TrA3e4jSogI/AAAAAAAABq0/jQ6WNRjl2UE/s800/CJM_1259s.jpg)

Tape down on one of the seams
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5m-Yqthj_bc/TrA3eizHmGI/AAAAAAAABrI/8965AzqZqPc/s800/CJM_1261s.jpg)

And now with the 3M spray on top of that to seal any little bit o problem.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1Z7uPqwlOH4/TrA3eq53YFI/AAAAAAAABqs/Sv2rod2L6qw/s800/CJM_1263s.jpg)

I used three cans of the spray but that was not enough. I think I am going to need at least three more, maybe four.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on November 01, 2011, 12:50:27 PM
Looks good with the undercoating !! after a couple days the undercoating dries enough you can paint over it if you want to The 08881 3M you bought is good stuff i've been using it for over 20 years. Did they come with the straw and extra nozzle? you can be very neat with the straw, the wide spray tip it comes with is a little sloppy. you can use one of of a can of carb cleaner or brake cleaner as a substitute. A little tip keep the cans warm before you spray keeps them from blocking the sprayer or straw longer and helps you use the whole can. leave in the house on the radiator or in the sun in the window. I let the car/truck run with the heat blowing on the can on the floor on fall days like now if was too much of a pain to go in and out and i didn't want to touch anything with U/Coat on my hands

I like the truck alot, it looks great with the wood floor & paint job 8)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 12:55:49 PM
thanks for the tip on the 3M stuff
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 03:08:28 PM
roof is sealed
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on November 01, 2011, 03:48:26 PM
roof is sealed
cool!!! good job. great project.  keep posting, i'm living vicariously thru you
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Goatdog62 on November 01, 2011, 04:56:36 PM
Excellent choice on the roof stuff. Eternabond is the best stuff for this purpose. With all my past and current motorhomes and travel trailers I grew very familiar with eternabond. This doesn't help you much now, but that exact same roll of eternabond is $57 with free shipping on Amazon and I have seen it on a couple websites recently in the high $40's.

I am working on making your thread and ncjeepers thread into stickies. Asked an admin to help me out and waiting on a response.

 (edit) Figured it out. Someone beat me to ncjeepers
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 05:15:33 PM
I did see it cheaper but I needed it now. Weather moving in and I have to move it to a storage spot and wanted it to be sealed.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on November 01, 2011, 05:54:21 PM
One more time, just because he did such an awesome job...

Before

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RB4ICwHApno/TpIpPWQCsBI/AAAAAAAABn8/3kvoXubkfC0/s1000/CJM_0267s.jpg)

After

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-efFWXJi-3H8/TrAATXMj5sI/AAAAAAAABqg/1s1oyHYSDww/s800/CJM_1252s.jpg)

I just had to do a side-by-side with those two pics.  :)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on November 01, 2011, 06:19:51 PM
That looks really good, cmx. Nice work!

I'm really liking the project and I am glad they stickied it. Of course now it will always be at the top of the page for everyone to see, so the pressure is on! :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 06:38:31 PM
That looks really good, cmx. Nice work!

I'm really liking the project and I am glad they stickied it. Of course now it will always be at the top of the page for everyone to see, so the pressure is on! :D

great :-P

now that the roof is sealed I can finish the trim on the floor and finish the interior painting.

other projects in the works are some led aux lamps. Also on the prowl for full led replacements for all the lights.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on November 01, 2011, 07:16:36 PM
Is the truck 24 volt or 12?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 01, 2011, 07:22:12 PM
24v
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on November 01, 2011, 09:01:36 PM
While I realize the size of the truck, and it's capacity,.. I wonder about the weight that the hardwood adds...

It looks awesome regardless.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nadir_E on November 01, 2011, 10:44:04 PM
While I realize the size of the truck, and it's capacity,.. I wonder about the weight that the hardwood adds...

I'm going to throw out a guess that the wood flooring weighs a LOT less than the radios that used to live in there! :D

Having fun watching the transformation - and looking forward to its trail debut.
-N
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on November 02, 2011, 04:43:36 AM
Maybe he can shed some light, but I'd guess the hardwood and subfloor weigh a 250-300 pounds, if that, and will effectively make no difference with this truck.   He probably would not notice the first couple of tons of gear driving it.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 02, 2011, 08:05:04 AM
While I realize the size of the truck, and it's capacity,.. I wonder about the weight that the hardwood adds...

It looks awesome regardless.

seeing as it is road rated to carry 5000#'s in the back, the couple hundred pounds of the wood will be noticed. Even once I fully furnish the back I seriously doubt that I will be coming near the rated capacity.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on November 02, 2011, 10:14:54 AM
What are your plans for furnishing the truck and making the most out of the space available?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 02, 2011, 10:39:20 AM
I'm going to add a twin sized bunk bed which should allow for mom and me on the bottom and both kids on the top.

Other plans are to find a stainless steel table to mount a sink/stove on with one of the small "dorm" refrigerators under it. Then mount cabinets above that.

I have seen where people have mounted fresh water tanks either under the van or under the bunk bed.

The rest of the area I am going to have to think about as there are some other things I want to add such as a decent sized battery bank to run off solar.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 02, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
The 7" LED aux lights showed up today.

Need to figure out how I am going to wire them up :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y_w0u1CFdfE/TrF0HQQsOCI/AAAAAAAABrQ/IHwpfMaYSEg/s800/CJM_1264s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on November 02, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
seeing as it is road rated to carry 5000#'s in the back, the couple hundred pounds of the wood will be noticed. Even once I fully furnish the back I seriously doubt that I will be coming near the rated capacity.
I have no doubt that it can handle the hardwood..  Everything is a little bit of a trade off..  It looks awesome.. and something I would be interested in doing myself...But with my brother have a 5th Wheel RV,.. He's kinda gotten me into the mode of watching the weight.. 

The Aux lights look nice..  Can't wait to see them on.  Don't know if you are inclined to do so.. but a running parts list would be cool..  And where you got them (so I know where to look for when I can mod my truck..
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 04, 2011, 10:05:47 AM
Worked on repairing a rust through spot on the front of the van.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7IGMfPp-V3M/TrQMs4JJiII/AAAAAAAABrY/jVUdzq9QDX8/s800/CJM_1280s.jpg)

Wider view so you can see the area (also notice I got the 5gl German Jerry can in) If you look at the can, that is the color I am thinking about painting the whole thing. Leaving the wheels and a few other parts flat black. What does the hive mind think??

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N8NfRNyji0g/TrQMtGlGDRI/AAAAAAAABrc/UuenJqhIpFo/s800/CJM_1281s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on November 04, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
I think the tan will make it less like an oven in the summer. 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 04, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Painted the wheels today. Looks much sharper.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qxBIN5C6UT0/TrRvn-V78WI/AAAAAAAABr4/jg_rwzPEen4/s800/CJM_1540s.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RX3TGdiT43o/TrRvn-dobyI/AAAAAAAABr0/dN3AQvKyC2M/s800/CJM_1545s.jpg)

Started getting artsy with the black and white
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oG-IxCY8j8w/TrRvnyHSIFI/AAAAAAAABrs/FKJxOBNO9k0/s800/CJM_1550s.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KjeBUqBknA4/TrRvntphkmI/AAAAAAAABro/kicRetd1pl4/s800/CJM_1551s.jpg)

I also did some underbody coating in the front wheel wells but it is sort of hard to see. Makes it look better but not sure how much noise reduction I will see from it.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 05, 2011, 02:57:38 PM
No pics.. but I repaired the middle side window on the passenger side.

The wood had split from the frame allowing the glass to start to slide out. Pulled the wood frame and worked it so that it fit correctly and then resealed it into the metal frame and reinstalled the glass. I think it is ready for a MN winter now.

Not sure what will be next as the temps are dropping here so I think I will have to wait till spring to do the repainting.

I think I will work on installing the aux lights and keep an eye out for full LED replacments if I can find a good deal on them.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 05, 2011, 03:10:15 PM
Here is one showing the M-16 rack
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1hcc7eXakkI/TrWmDqgfxmI/AAAAAAAABsM/8ZH8u0AHb2w/s640/CJM_1555s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on November 05, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
It looks good!

Keep it up.

I love checking back to this thread and seeing all the progress.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on November 05, 2011, 05:25:51 PM
Your truck looks great.  LEDs are pricy but an excellent upgrade.   I know there are many options out there on the web.   I'm a fan of www.v-leds.com   They are a bit more for the "ricer" croud, but have top shelf LED stuff and are very knowledgeable.   I'm not sure what they have that would fit your truck, but they have great customer service.    As a matter of fact I'd guess they would get a huge kick out of helping you with your truck.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 05, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
Your truck looks great.  LEDs are pricy but an excellent upgrade.   I know there are many options out there on the web.   I'm a fan of www.v-leds.com   They are a bit more for the "ricer" croud, but have top shelf LED stuff and are very knowledgeable.   I'm not sure what they have that would fit your truck, but they have great customer service.    As a matter of fact I'd guess they would get a huge kick out of helping you with your truck.

There are actually just two vendors that sell LED replacements for my truck  Truck-Lite and Grote. They are not just bulb replacements but they replace the entire unit with dedicated LED parts. I wish it was so easy as to just replace the bulb. :) (well I guess you could but the results would not be as good as the full replacement parts)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on November 05, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
I have Grote tail lights on my rig. Expensive but well built and have held up fine since installing them back in 2001
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bartsdad on November 05, 2011, 11:45:47 PM
There are actually just two vendors that sell LED replacements for my truck  Truck-Lite and Grote.

You won't go wrong with either brand. 90%+ of all the big rigs on the highway are running one of the 2 brands, some both. The trick to long life with them is to put a little electrical grease in the connectors. Most problems/failures are a result of corrosion, not a failed light assembly, which have a great warranty.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 06, 2011, 04:33:28 PM
I have a set of them on my M101A3 trailer and they rock. I hope I can find some at the same price I found those at. They can be expensive.

The LED aux lights I have to install are Truck-lite's  so I expect that they will rock. They also make LED headlight replacements that I am on the lookout for.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 11, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
Finished making the slave cable that is used for jump starting.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E_PgHsUJjKo/Tr11VJSTGQI/AAAAAAAABs8/DL1Jcq0lpcI/s800/CJM_1836s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on November 11, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
cmxterra, your neighbors must LOVE you!  Do you keep the truck out front all the time?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on November 11, 2011, 02:23:13 PM
if i was his neighbor i'd be out drooling over it all the time.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 11, 2011, 04:48:41 PM
I was less worried about the neighbors and more worried about my wife :) So it stays off site about 8 miles from the house.  I can keep it at the house about a week at a time without ruffling too many feathers.

One of my neighbors actually came by when I first got it and said "You have all the husbands saying THAT IS SO COOL and all the wives saying NO WAY IN HELL"
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 11, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
Here are a few glamour shots from where I store it. Looks better here than it does in front of the house.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YEKpjjOt6fw/Tr24YACD6RI/AAAAAAAABtE/xphGDJsUZow/s800/CJM_1846s.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4D_fxbkZcZM/Tr24YQzfw5I/AAAAAAAABtQ/BCnxDo4XNRc/s800/CJM_1858s.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oTXcL6rg9_I/Tr24YfZUh7I/AAAAAAAABtM/Vl_KbVw_-r0/s800/CJM_1866s.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--rmU6_z7Qpo/Tr24YhTQ6pI/AAAAAAAABtU/KszBLZrpe9A/s800/CJM_1874s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: WVMan73 on November 12, 2011, 09:24:11 AM
I've got a backyard you can park that in. Feel free to bring it over anytime. ;) lol

Keep the updates coming, we're all drooling over your VCBOV! (Very Cool Bug Out Vehicle)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: hunter301 on November 12, 2011, 03:42:17 PM
Starting to look good now.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dtqNOtZ6Ri8/Tq7VFXGv5nI/AAAAAAAABqY/ROXmrhl-fWA/s640/CJM_1152s.jpg)

Question:
Why would you put down hardwood flooring instead of some type of thick rubberized flooring mats with more flexibility?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: hunter301 on November 12, 2011, 03:47:54 PM
What is your overall plan for the interior layout design: features, electronics, sleeping, storage, ect.....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 12, 2011, 07:40:24 PM
Question:
Why would you put down hardwood flooring instead of some type of thick rubberized flooring mats with more flexibility?

I went with wood because it looks nice and was an easier sell to the wife
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 12, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
What is your overall plan for the interior layout design: features, electronics, sleeping, storage, ect.....

bunk bed (twin over full)
LCD tv
small fridge
microwave
counter top with  cook top
cabinets and other storage
solar on roof with battery bank
ham radios
propane tank for stove
led lighting
aux fuel tank
repainting

I'm sure more things will add to the list.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: soupbone on November 13, 2011, 07:54:36 AM
Great job - great hobby truck, and all for less than the cost of an equivalent sized boat. (Might mention that to the Mrs.) Speaking of boats, you might find some of the stuff you are looking for - stoves, fridges, sink and water tanks, etc., at a good sized yachting supply house, even down to slosh-proof chemical toilets.

If I can also suggest - you might also want to sturdily mount a bench seat from a van, complete with seat belts, for folks who ride in the back. Hit a curb or chuckhole at the wrong time, or - God forbid - an accident.........

soupbone
 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 13, 2011, 10:50:06 AM
I've been looking at kitchenettes (like the kind you would find in a small cabin) and a restaurant type table that is steel construction that can be bolted down.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 16, 2011, 10:42:44 AM
I found a kitchenette used for less than I can get all the individual parts for (stove, sink, fridge and counter)

What does the hive mind think? Go modular for easier replacement or get the all in one to save on space and money.

Edit to add a pic of what I am looking at getting.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2fE2mpDQ6oA/TsP2brsJmCI/AAAAAAAABtk/aQpbiL7XFY4/s300/kitchenette.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nadir_E on November 16, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
I found a kitchenette used for less than I can get all the individual parts for (stove, sink, fridge and counter)

What does the hive mind think? Go modular for easier replacement or get the all in one to save on space and money.

Edit to add a pic of what I am looking at getting.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2fE2mpDQ6oA/TsP2brsJmCI/AAAAAAAABtk/aQpbiL7XFY4/s300/kitchenette.jpg)

Save the money and go with the all-in-one for now.  Leave some fudge-room around it so if/when there's a breakdown of one of the components that you can't fix, you have enough space to swap it out with the modular components you're considering (presuming they take up more space than the all-in-one). In the meantime, use the savings for some other part of the project.

$0.02 deposited. ;)

-N
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on November 16, 2011, 12:30:20 PM
go with the all in one as long as it works well.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: WVMan73 on November 17, 2011, 09:51:48 AM
Adding my vote for the all in one unit as well. I like the look of it too. Kinda cool and retro. lol Plus that stainless top should be easy to keep clean.

How is the unit powered? Looks like a propane stove, but is the fridge propane as well? Those small propane fridges don't use much gas and have always worked pretty well for me. Or is it one that works on propane and electric?

WVMan73
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on November 17, 2011, 10:01:53 AM
If you have the room and it wont hamper your original plans then go with the all in one unit.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 17, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
Well I went today to look at the all in one that I found on Craigslist. It has seen better days and there was rust in spots that looked important. That and the seal around the fridge was not soft and did not make a good seal. I am going to see how much the replacement seal is along with some other parts. Might not be worth it.

bummer.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: The Wilderness on November 17, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
Well I went today to look at the all in one that I found on Craigslist. It has seen better days and there was rust in spots that looked important. That and the seal around the fridge was not soft and did not make a good seal. I am going to see how much the replacement seal is along with some other parts. Might not be worth it.

bummer.

I am sorry that the all in one was in rough shape.

Thank you for posting the pic of it anyway. Even when things don't work out the way that you planned, your ideas and pictures are of great value to the members here as far as seeing what you are thinking. We are all learning a great deal from this thread.

TW
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 17, 2011, 08:43:11 PM
Adding my vote for the all in one unit as well. I like the look of it too. Kinda cool and retro. lol Plus that stainless top should be easy to keep clean.

How is the unit powered? Looks like a propane stove, but is the fridge propane as well? Those small propane fridges don't use much gas and have always worked pretty well for me. Or is it one that works on propane and electric?

WVMan73

it was a gas/electric unit and would have rocked. I might look into getting a new unit as I really like the all in one aspect. New ones are pricy though :-(
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on November 17, 2011, 09:41:36 PM
Maybe take a shot at finding a cheap low use FEMA trailer rip out what you need and scrap/sell whats left
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: fasteddie on November 17, 2011, 11:15:18 PM
Very cool project, my guess is it will be solar powered ?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 18, 2011, 02:52:20 AM
Very cool project, my guess is it will be solar powered ?

you guess correctly.  I will have a genny but primary will be solar.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 18, 2011, 03:02:05 PM
Got my Glad Hands hose made today. Now I will be able to use air tools in the field. Woot!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on November 18, 2011, 07:29:46 PM
Here's what you need hooked behind your truck. ;)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110774888593?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 18, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
Here's what you need hooked behind your truck. ;)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110774888593?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

That is the right trailer for my truck. Nice genny in the back too. Those show up on the GL site all the time and now I have been thinking of getting one.. Oh how the wife will kill me. (until SHTF and we need it then I become the hero)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on November 19, 2011, 01:24:01 AM
I currently dont have a use for it, but was tempted to put in a bid just because of the cool factor. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 20, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
Looks like I found a suitable bed. It is a twin over Full bunk bed (and the full is a Futon so it can double as a couch when just relaxing)

(http://images.craigslist.org/5Q25P05X33ma3p23l9bb5a8e7b8c43a141dfb.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: randelw on November 21, 2011, 07:49:55 AM
Looks like I found a suitable bed. It is a twin over Full bunk bed (and the full is a Futon so it can double as a couch when just relaxing)

(http://images.craigslist.org/5Q25P05X33ma3p23l9bb5a8e7b8c43a141dfb.jpg)

Looks like a great choice. Sturdy and Lighweight. Don't forget to secure it somehow.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 21, 2011, 08:47:47 AM
Looks like a great choice. Sturdy and Lighweight. Don't forget to secure it somehow.

As with everything that I am putting back there it will be mounted to both the floor and to the wall (there is a mounting rail along the length of both side walls)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on November 21, 2011, 09:46:46 AM
looks good....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 22, 2011, 06:11:45 PM
OK..

Here is a quick mock up of what I am thinking
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--mp920Bgq5g/TsxHrh1WjgI/AAAAAAAABtw/2wlqLPPdYGs/s1221/m109s.jpg)

And the other side
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1Ox3egVv0VU/TsxHrsg345I/AAAAAAAABt0/uxtLs3z6ZD4/s1210/m109s2.jpg)

with the empty space on either side I am thinking of a rolling tool chest for spare parts and other useful items.

Input? Suggestions?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on November 23, 2011, 07:43:14 AM
Just to keep it more open, I would look at putting the bed toward the front of the box unless you are planning a window A/C in the forward window.  I'm working on a similar project and have given myself the goal of keeping the floor as open as possible toward the rear doors.  I think it will cut down on the claustrophobic feel of being in a box as well as keep some floor space available for loading big(er) cargo.  I'm shooting for enough room for a quad/rzr/???.   I'm looking toward a murphy bed.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 23, 2011, 08:14:37 AM
I should clarify.. in the top image the back of the box is to the right.

In the bottom image the back of the box is to the left.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 23, 2011, 03:58:37 PM
Got the bed.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vc4Aal8NUCE/Ts16HHFxStI/AAAAAAAABuA/avVNXMegAdM/s800/HTJ_1585.jpg)

It is just the right size that I can switch it from one side to the other without taking it apart. This will allow me to really plan this layout well.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-C4XzI-OSoS4/Ts16HO_jBCI/AAAAAAAABuE/UaQcELm5Vsg/s800/HTJ_1583.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on November 23, 2011, 04:43:17 PM
I'd say the top bunk occupier needs to be mighty slim.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 23, 2011, 06:55:38 PM
I'd say the top bunk occupier needs to be mighty slim.

It is the perfect size for the occupants that will be there.. Kids.

The photo is deceptive. There is a good 18" of space between the matress and the ceiling
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Goatdog62 on November 23, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
I think it looks great!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 23, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
I think it looks great!

Thanks Goat
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bama_medic on November 24, 2011, 01:48:37 AM
A quick note. There is a kit you can buy that is a do it yourself bed liner simular to a linex or rhino type. Note as think of course but still good and strong. You roll it on. Works pretty good. I was wondering what year is that truck and if I may ask what was a ballpark cost for it? I am really enjoying watch the progress and it is really going to be a nice setup when your done. I am also a ham and would love to have one of these as a rv / mobile hamshack. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 24, 2011, 08:32:37 AM
A quick note. There is a kit you can buy that is a do it yourself bed liner simular to a linex or rhino type. Note as think of course but still good and strong. You roll it on. Works pretty good. I was wondering what year is that truck and if I may ask what was a ballpark cost for it? I am really enjoying watch the progress and it is really going to be a nice setup when your done. I am also a ham and would love to have one of these as a rv / mobile hamshack. Keep up the good work.

I was going to use that on the roof but seeing as there were some spots that the liner would not have totally sealed due to rust I went the way I did with the industrial sealing tape and the spray on stuff.

The truck is a 1971 and I paid 4600 for it. That seems to be about the going price on one depending on its condition. When it is done I will have a radio in the van section for sure and might have another in the cab.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on November 28, 2011, 09:21:58 AM
I think I might copy your tan with wood floor.  I like the look.  Have you sorted out the transfer switch/electrical in the box yet?  Any plans for an onboard generator connected to it? 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 28, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
It actually came with a transfer switch and all the breakers for either 24v or 120. There is an outlet on the outside of the van that allows for the direct connection of either shore power or a genny.

Question I have for myself now is do I run my solar to work on 24v or leave it as 12v so I can run 12v things. I am leaning to keeping it 12v.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on November 28, 2011, 10:41:44 AM
Are there separate outlets for 24v vs 120v?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 28, 2011, 10:49:21 AM
No. There are no 24v outlets in the van. Just 120. The transfer switch is for the lighting. I will have to take some close up images of the electrical area to show.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 02, 2011, 02:17:31 PM
Added to the gear for the BIG TRUCK.

Ingersoll Rand Titanium impact wrench and a set of both shallow and deep sockets up to 1 1/2 in.
Misc tie down points that I am going to install in the van for lashing down misc stuff.
Craftsman 11 drawer tool chest
Mounting bracket for the 24" tv.

Still looking for cabinets. Might have to break down and just buy new. Yuck.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Steelheart on December 02, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Speaking of trailers....  I spotted this on Craigslist and while I'd like it I don't have the means to haul it home (no pintle hitch for my Jeep right now) it would be very cool.

Army Trailer- Heavy Duty 6 X 9 - $550 cash (Albert Lea)
http://mankato.craigslist.org/for/2693796533.html
There are a couple pics in the posting too.

Steelheart
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 02, 2011, 04:51:09 PM
Speaking of trailers....  I spotted this on Craigslist and while I'd like it I don't have the means to haul it home (no pintle hitch for my Jeep right now) it would be very cool.

Army Trailer- Heavy Duty 6 X 9 - $550 cash (Albert Lea)
http://mankato.craigslist.org/for/2693796533.html
There are a couple pics in the posting too.

Steelheart

That is a M105 and your jeep would die trying to pull it.  It was designed to be pulled behind trucks like mine. The M101 series is what you want for smaller vehicles. Be happy you did not get it :)

Here is an image of the M101A3 that I have
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1-uTDO6pW-s/TGC8MUsxayI/AAAAAAAABbg/PuR6XmPF_rs/s800/CMP_0890a3.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: hunter301 on December 03, 2011, 10:59:45 AM
Looks like I found a suitable bed. It is a twin over Full bunk bed (and the full is a Futon so it can double as a couch when just relaxing)

(http://images.craigslist.org/5Q25P05X33ma3p23l9bb5a8e7b8c43a141dfb.jpg)

Do you have a listing for the Futon bed? I like the design for one of my rooms.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 03, 2011, 11:07:43 AM
I just did a general search for bunk bed on craigslist. You have to sort through all the crap.

I actually found three just like this one.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: doublehelix on December 04, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
Just in case you need some interior inspiration.

Inspiration from a USA maker:
http://www.unicatamericas.com/

Some good floorplans and kit here from Australia:

http://www.earthcruiser.com.au/accommodation.php

and

http://www.earthcruiser.com.au/photo.php
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: doublehelix on December 04, 2011, 01:34:47 PM
Also be SUPER mindful of the weight of all the stuff you're putting in it.

Use lightweight materials, and honeycomb the cabinets where possible to save weight.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 05, 2011, 08:17:30 AM
although I am mindful of the weight I doubt I will have anywhere near the 5k rating for gear in the rear.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on December 05, 2011, 11:53:42 AM
although I am mindful of the weight I doubt I will have anywhere near the 5k rating for gear in the rear.
Going off the gear you have already put in, and have listed as going in,.. and a previous point I asked..  I think the only way to get close to the limit is if you add water tanks.  If you install saddle tanks for water, then your limit could be more reachable..  But if you don't plan to add the tanks,.. your gear list should be quite doable.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 05, 2011, 01:46:21 PM
When I do put tanks in They will not be bigger than 40gallon.

Coleman two burner multi fuel stove showed up today :)

edit to add image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RISBs2fZTD8/Tt0unPzBIOI/AAAAAAAABvg/kYWoNfrH4Eg/s800/CJM_3842.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 05, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
I think I found the cabinet/ storage that I am going to go with.

All metal construction and they are lockable so no worries about things flying open while in motion. Stainless Steel top too which looks nice.
My only complaint is that the two lower cabinets can not be put flush next to each other due to the doors on the vertical one. I am thinking of getting a piece of metal to fill the gap so there is no place for crap to fall between them.

Base cabinet one (27in wide x 19in deep x 33.5 tall)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pKulJfLBFas/Tt0vxvNGdSI/AAAAAAAABv4/rpZvJ2l8I7I/s300/h1.jpg)

Base cabinet two (27in wide x 19in deep x 33.5 tall)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UlU53PE4MOM/Tt0vxqmTCOI/AAAAAAAABvs/aqcvLyHUm74/s300/h2.jpg)

Wall cabinet (28in wide x 13in deep x 29in tall)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5_eF-zOTMBk/Tt0vxX3gzEI/AAAAAAAABvo/7mh4tTzR2IU/s300/h3.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 08, 2011, 06:45:20 PM
Got the fire extinguisher installed and picked up a dedicated med kit today.

Also picked up a few pieces of cast iron cookware that I can keep in the deuce. I need to get a good name for her now that I think about it.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 08, 2011, 06:53:41 PM
Did some more research about the cabinets.

After going to Home Depot and looking at the ones I posted above I am having second thoughts about them. They seem to have been made in a half assed way. The top is actually smaller than the drawers under them so there is some space on either side which looks like crap. Another problem is that with the way the hinges are on the vertical cabinet you can not put it directly next to the cabinet with the drawers. This is not acceptable.

Looks like Lowes sells a more thought out unit. A little more expensive but seems more refined and complete. I am going to do a drive by tomorrow to put eyes on it and see if they are as good as they look online and worth the extra cash.

Here is the HD unit
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UlU53PE4MOM/Tt0vxqmTCOI/AAAAAAAABvs/aqcvLyHUm74/s300/h2.jpg)

Here is the Lowes unit
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jXNSDBL9Lxw/TuFp1Q7rXGI/AAAAAAAABwA/B538QEHIzPY/s500/lowes.jpg)

The only thing that bums me out about the Lowes cabinet is that they do not have a five drawer unit that would go with it. I would have to get two of the same.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Steelheart on December 08, 2011, 07:23:27 PM
That is a M105 and your jeep would die trying to pull it.  It was designed to be pulled behind trucks like mine. The M101 series is what you want for smaller vehicles. Be happy you did not get it :)

Here is an image of the M101A3 that I have
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1-uTDO6pW-s/TGC8MUsxayI/AAAAAAAABbg/PuR6XmPF_rs/s800/CMP_0890a3.jpg)

I remember dealing with them a little when I was in the military, took a couple guys to shove it around empty.

I don't have a Wrangler (used too) I've got a V8 Grand Cherokee so I'd have a fighting chance with it. But I now that I don't have a good use for it so..

Steelheart.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on December 09, 2011, 10:59:41 AM
I need to get a good name for her now that I think about it.
Throw up some names and let the tsp familiy vote on them. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 09, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
Throw up some names and let the tsp familiy vote on them. :)

Poll added.. Only had space for 4 names so if you have another then write it in. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on December 09, 2011, 11:45:08 AM
how about Trojan?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bartsdad on December 09, 2011, 11:48:08 AM
I can add any other names to the poll if necessary.  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 09, 2011, 12:37:30 PM
I can add any other names to the poll if necessary.  ;)

I would say add them as they come up
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on December 09, 2011, 12:56:04 PM
LANDMASTER 2.0 

Family Personnel Carrier  (FPC)

The War Wagon
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on December 09, 2011, 01:03:13 PM
Did some more research about the cabinets.

After going to Home Depot and looking at the ones I posted above I am having second thoughts about them. They seem to have been made in a half assed way. The top is actually smaller than the drawers under them so there is some space on either side which looks like crap. Another problem is that with the way the hinges are on the vertical cabinet you can not put it directly next to the cabinet with the drawers. This is not acceptable.

Looks like Lowes sells a more thought out unit. A little more expensive but seems more refined and complete. I am going to do a drive by tomorrow to put eyes on it and see if they are as good as they look online and worth the extra cash.

Here is the HD unit
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UlU53PE4MOM/Tt0vxqmTCOI/AAAAAAAABvs/aqcvLyHUm74/s300/h2.jpg)

Here is the Lowes unit
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jXNSDBL9Lxw/TuFp1Q7rXGI/AAAAAAAABwA/B538QEHIzPY/s500/lowes.jpg)

The only thing that bums me out about the Lowes cabinet is that they do not have a five drawer unit that would go with it. I would have to get two of the same.
check out the Sears website or stop in their tool section at a local store, they sell Gladiator tool boxes and have the whole line here's the front page of the online garage storage systems from sears  http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_12605_Tools_Garage+Organization+%26+Shelving_Garage+Storage+Separates
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 09, 2011, 06:26:10 PM
Thanks for the heads up JV

Good to look at as they have few pieces that is seems Lowes does not have. But Lowes will let me pay over 6 months no interest :D

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: doublehelix on December 10, 2011, 10:59:55 AM
although I am mindful of the weight I doubt I will have anywhere near the 5k rating for gear in the rear.

Understood, but you also want to be 20% UNDER the rating to be safe (and to be easier on the mechanical parts)

Additional fuel and water will add up quickly.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 10, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
Here is the tool chest (strapped in place so as not to move)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q5AYqjCRdG4/TuP0QMkCBAI/AAAAAAAABwI/s_jI2TITZF0/s800/CJM_4056s.jpg)

Another view of it showing the bed in its stowed position.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z8aJK_RWR7Y/TuP0QD9dy8I/AAAAAAAABwM/4zAMw7HvYeY/s800/CJM_4060-2s.jpg)

The first of what will be three (since they don't take up much space)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6-vO2-dizMk/TuP0QGJwo4I/AAAAAAAABwQ/j-g1v2ydWK8/s800/CJM_4059-2s.jpg)

I will post more pics when I get the second on put together and the counter top on. I might have to order the third one so it might be a while on that one.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Morning Sunshine on December 10, 2011, 06:12:36 PM
Family Personnel Carrier  (FPC)

my vote there....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on December 10, 2011, 09:51:18 PM
I like the tool/cabinet set up alot. Have you bolted the top box to the bottom tool box? One good bump or hilly turn and you may have a flying toolbox. almost all the newer boxes if take the drawers out have holes predrilled for bolts, if not drill 4 3/8" holes and put washers and locknuts and your all set. I've moved many a toolbox on a flatbed and seen many guys lose them on the roads not realizing how much they actually weigh.

A good idea but i hate to see you wreck your floor is to bolt a piece of angle iron to the floor like a wheel chock to wedge the box in place or a couple ring bolts in the floor to tie it down they would look neater and could be used for other tie downs. I don't want to see you get hurt by a flying toolbox ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 10, 2011, 09:56:52 PM
I did secure the top box to the bottom box via some metal screws.

I was thinking if I want something to stay put I am going to put so no-slide pad under the footings and then secure them to the walls via angle iron. Maybe.. just maybe on the main cabinets I will secure them to the floor.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on December 10, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
That's a good way too bolt it to the walls. When does the flat screen and XBox or PS3 go in?? :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 10, 2011, 10:28:49 PM
flat screen is ready to go in.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: caverdude on December 10, 2011, 10:58:56 PM
Maybe I need to look for a small box truck..  I like the idea of using a school bus too.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 11, 2011, 08:54:48 AM
Maybe I need to look for a small box truck..  I like the idea of using a school bus too.

I have seen a school bus done. Lots of space in those.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on December 11, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
I have seen a school bus done. Lots of space in those.
If I were to convert a school bus,.. and I'd like to one day.. I'd replace the axles for ones from a cement truck..  that will give you the gearing and the 4x4 option.

Maybe also put in gas bags to lower the center of gravity for normal road use.

Other option is here: 
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=23087.0
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on December 11, 2011, 02:13:45 PM
Other option is here: 
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=23087.0

Hmmm. I wonder what his final exterior paint job turned out to be.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 11, 2011, 04:41:21 PM
Hmmm. I wonder what his final exterior paint job turned out to be.

Wow
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Patriot_RAM on December 11, 2011, 05:02:52 PM
cmxterra,

That's an awesome build!!  Great pictures, thanks!!

Patriot_RAM
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 11, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
Got more done today.

Got the second cabinet put together and the counter top on.
Also got the TV installed.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8xqnTSKWTWs/TuU_jQWzupI/AAAAAAAABxA/ZV7l0liV1xQ/s800/CJM_1221s.jpg)

Another view
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8wQvryGRSaw/TuU_jYHZofI/AAAAAAAABxE/-ZKcV9RieE0/s800/CJM_1218s.jpg)

View of the tv while sitting on the futon.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ip19LxyrV7U/TuU_jU2LtTI/AAAAAAAABxQ/8nundII4I5w/s800/CJM_1219s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on December 11, 2011, 11:57:13 PM
Put a kegarator in it and you would have an awesome tailgating machine. ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on December 12, 2011, 08:23:48 AM
Every time I look at it I just get more jealous LOL.  Nice work.  Can't wait to see it finished.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on December 12, 2011, 01:27:00 PM
needs a gun rack... and the kegerator as mentioned.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nimzy88 on December 12, 2011, 05:28:54 PM
Just found this site with a few ideas on getting the kitchen set up.

http://www.militarytrucks.ca/rv_project.htm (http://www.militarytrucks.ca/rv_project.htm)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on December 12, 2011, 05:34:46 PM
Are you planning on tinting those windows?  (they don't appear to have any in the pictures)   Also, what are you planning for interior water? ie. sink, potty maybe?  It's looking great, the interior reminds me more and more of a camping trailer.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 12, 2011, 06:32:29 PM
Are you planning on tinting those windows?  (they don't appear to have any in the pictures)   Also, what are you planning for interior water? ie. sink, potty maybe?  It's looking great, the interior reminds me more and more of a camping trailer.

No tint on the windows. They are fairly high off the ground so no real worries of someone walking up and peeping in.

As for the water. I am still working on that.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 18, 2011, 10:24:51 AM
Looks like I might have found an all in one that is closer to my price range.
(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabh_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-Appliance-Site/Sites-CompactAppliance/default/v1324048512337/products/viewlarger/CK302R_vl2.jpg)

Only bummer is that it is electric instead of gas.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on December 18, 2011, 10:33:56 AM
that looks good, too bad its electric. keep looking
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 18, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
that looks good, too bad its electric. keep looking

The gas version (made by a different company) is a good 300.00 bucks more.  Makes me sad.

Of course if I look at it from the standpoint that it would give me a third way to cook then it could be a good thing. I could use the Coleman mutli-fuel most of the time and if in a crunch I could use the electric. (it is a 500 and 1000w burner)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: doublehelix on December 18, 2011, 11:54:13 AM
Couple of things missing on the ceiling/wall:

Battery operated Smoke Alarm on the ceiling

and a battery operated Carbon Monoxide alarm on the wall.

Safety first.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 18, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
Couple of things missing on the ceiling/wall:

Battery operated Smoke Alarm on the ceiling

and a battery operated Carbon Monoxide alarm on the wall.

Safety first.

Good points
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 24, 2011, 03:20:32 PM
A little update

Tested out the onboard air and associated tools. Discovered that I really need an air drill. As I was working installing stuff in the back BOTH batteries died for my electric drill. Two was zero this time!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ptRifWQyJwM/TvZNOCRPczI/AAAAAAAABx4/Ny7WTLBNPzs/s640/CJM_5161s.jpg)

Got the first aid kit installed
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1wB461xmb8I/TvZNOHjZJqI/AAAAAAAABxk/5Sb6YNZNP4M/s800/CJM_5157s.jpg)

Got the upper rack installed (stove shown for reference)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r5zuRbLo4kk/TvZORHm70lI/AAAAAAAAByg/dTwENs8EBiw/s640/CJM_5153s.jpg)

And did a quick and dirty ZS fleet number on it.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J9zZQbf-AWI/TvZNO4dKqyI/AAAAAAAAByA/2V8-vv3j9vU/s800/CJM_5164s.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fcCXqpxdrhs/TvZNOmeIjtI/AAAAAAAABx8/Ha_QSstn-G8/s800/CJM_5168s.jpg)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on December 24, 2011, 03:37:35 PM
And did a quick and dirty ZS fleet number on it.

I love it!

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on December 28, 2011, 08:14:17 PM
The air driven drill really sucks the cfm's. My buddy has a converted york compressor and air tank on his toyota truck. We were doing a trail fix and it couldnt keep up. We would drill for about 20 seconds and then it would stop and we would have to wait for it to refill. I have an onboard welder on my jeep with a 110v dc outlet. I use an electric drill from it and it works great.  Something to think about.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bartsdad on December 28, 2011, 11:57:19 PM
Another option is to source a 12 volt cordless drill (super cheap if it has bad batteries)and convert it to 12 volt corded drill. Plug it into a cig lighter socket and away you go.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 31, 2011, 04:40:52 PM
Got a little bit of work done today

Moved the radio tray and hard mounted one of the 2m/440cm radios. Plenty of room left for another radio and scanner.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IJXLaXjhLkA/Tv-YtwMX3HI/AAAAAAAAByo/4aWm6UgN70I/s800/CJM_5369s.jpg)

Got a shelf installed over where the tool chest sits. No I will not leave the coleman fuel up there. It is just for reference so you can see how much space there is.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2LF0uOrsXOU/Tv-YuMKUK8I/AAAAAAAAByw/2FFQ_B4FHDo/s800/CJM_5368s.jpg)

Moved the cabinets over some to leave space for the small fridge. Also moved the first aid kit so that I used the space more efficiently.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UV-0vZcnAxI/Tv-Yt5Vk-0I/AAAAAAAABys/ifUOdE9N_b8/s800/CJM_5364s.jpg)

Got the 24v LED aux lamps hard mounted and moved the ZS fleet number to the bumper. I will come back and get rid of that over spray at some point.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BzUSmzPgCEA/Tv-YuKrGffI/AAAAAAAABy0/k_mnK9Gy7kQ/s800/CJM_5361s.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-At-crac4MRc/Tv-YuMEjffI/AAAAAAAABy4/tvV4ZL_dOuM/s800/CJM_5359s.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--VmER_la_xE/Tv-Yuf_iuPI/AAAAAAAABzE/A2h7UIy0J0Y/s720/CJM_5354sbw.jpg)

Next on the list is to finish out the wiring for the lights. Then on to the other many projects.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Dawgus on December 31, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
Looking better every day cmx!!

and on the name? Magnus....definitely Magnus. http://www.magnus-samuelsson.net/en/default.asp?view=start
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on December 31, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
looking good! and in MN?! cool!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 04, 2012, 12:38:36 PM
got my 24v - 12v converter so I can run 12v in the cab.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Yc14SphajnQ/TwSqT4PvAvI/AAAAAAAABz8/9ta_RDcq1CI/s800/CJM_6284s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 07, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
Got the Aux lights wired in today.

Switch
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VbHj1VkIOSw/TwjhuRZwGaI/AAAAAAAAB0c/3-sXgbHuyj4/s800/CJM_6925s.jpg)

Powered up in daylight
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VCzFQLsPWzA/TwjhuN9DEWI/AAAAAAAAB0Y/vqPUsDYXd6k/s800/CJM_6929s.jpg)

Both regular lamps and leds together
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EBha0AcIn9E/TwjhuBc8BCI/AAAAAAAAB0Q/D4Jcdnwa9JM/s800/CJM_7013s.jpg)

Normal head lights all by themselves
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fMy2z9ZzxR4/TwjhtyIP9eI/AAAAAAAAB00/TKt8h_kkcOw/s800/CJM_7083s.jpg)

Normal headlights WITH the leds (about twice the distance illuminated plus more light thrown to the sides) Same exposure for both images.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DXWbxbJx6yE/Twjht-vGWfI/AAAAAAAAB0E/0Mdx1cqhCnI/s800/CJM_7082s.jpg)

Glamour shot with the full moon
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qnIQ7wVmXXs/TwjhtzgpWBI/AAAAAAAAB0I/NC8JpYFEqGQ/s800/CJM_7021s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on January 07, 2012, 05:33:11 PM
Damn that thing looks GOOOD!,   Jealous every day now. ;)   ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on January 07, 2012, 05:47:03 PM
totally cool.... damn that looks good. envy building....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: SteveandTracyinKY on January 08, 2012, 12:25:15 AM
Continued compliments on an awesome project....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on January 08, 2012, 01:15:14 AM
dude this is awesome. found the thread and caught up on the project and you're awesome! this is making me want a project but i keep remembering that i'm on a serious budget because of the wedding...........next year i'll have a project. a house. but enough about me. your truck shall be named sasquatch in my opinion. that is all
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 08, 2012, 09:12:58 AM
Thanks for all the kudos. It is a fun project with real life applications and it keeps me busy.

 Louisiana Suvivor: I understand the budget concerns of doing this build as I am a stay at home dad and all my income is currently coming from photography that I can do when the Lady of the house gets home. (cheaper than day care). But let me tell you Craigslist is your friend.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on January 08, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
that's awesome! i'm gonna learn from you because you seem to be doing it right and yes craig is a great friend! lol
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 08, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
BONUS

Just scored two of the Truck-Lite 24v headlamps on Ebay. So true hi/low beam LED's are on the way.

Now I just need to get the rest of the marker and brake lights in LED and never have to worry about losing a bulb again.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on January 12, 2012, 08:56:21 AM
CMX --> I pulled the trigger and purchased an M185A3. Will pick it up Memorial Day week.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on January 12, 2012, 08:59:08 AM
CMX --> I pulled the trigger and purchased an M185A3. Will pick it up Memorial Day week.
Excellent! pics!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 09:39:50 AM
CMX --> I pulled the trigger and purchased an M185A3. Will pick it up Memorial Day week.

Awesome. You will be VERY happy
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 09:42:02 AM
I believe this is the one he is getting

(http://www.easternsurplus.net/images/620/620g.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on January 12, 2012, 11:17:39 AM
Yep, that is it.
I feel like a child at Christmas.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on January 12, 2012, 11:23:54 AM
Awesome..  Wished I could fall in behind with another (that would be a interested site,.. the TSP MilSpec Convoy.. lol

CMX - It may have been through this thread, but I saw that one person who was doing about the same had converted his from a Dual tire setup to a single tire setup in the rear..  saying it was less stress on the tires and axle.

Have you considered this?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 12:28:47 PM
Awesome..  Wished I could fall in behind with another (that would be a interested site,.. the TSP MilSpec Convoy.. lol

CMX - It may have been through this thread, but I saw that one person who was doing about the same had converted his from a Dual tire setup to a single tire setup in the rear..  saying it was less stress on the tires and axle.

Have you considered this?

They are built for the stress of dual wheels.
Drawbacks of going singles are :

Lose one tire and you might be DRT.
Much heavier tire so doing a swap is more difficult and dangerous.
More expensive to replace if you have one fail
Not as easy to find replacements.

But going back to the first draw back is the deal breaker for me.

Advantages are :

Look awesome
Higher top speed


Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 12, 2012, 01:40:49 PM
My curiosity is totally peaked. You know I love your truck cmx, but I'm concerned about the maneuverability in the wilderness, and it seems like these are made for carrying a lot of weight and passing anything but a fuel station. Are you concerned about that in a SHTF scenario?

Looks like in the desert or open field, these would be awesome. But in a situation where fuel is unavailable, how far can you go before you have to leave the truck on the side of the road?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 01:46:54 PM
My curiosity is totally peaked. You know I love your truck cmx, but I'm concerned about the maneuverability in the wilderness, and it seems like these are made for carrying a lot of weight and passing anything but a fuel station. Are you concerned about that in a SHTF scenario?

Looks like in the desert or open field, these would be awesome. But in a situation where fuel is unavailable, how far can you go before you have to leave the truck on the side of the road?

It has a tighter turning radius than a Ford F350. It gets about 10 MPG and I am adding a second 50 gal tank which will give me a max range of no fueling of about 1000 miles.

As for fuel in a full on SHTF setting. It is multi fuel. That means it can burn damn near any flammable liquid. So you see all those stalled out cars. Good. Go drain their motor oil, transmission fluid and gear oil... do a quick filtering (if there is time) dump it in the tank and motor on. You would be awash in fuel in a SHTF world where gas was gone.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on January 12, 2012, 01:47:38 PM
I tore some forest in Germany up and also lots of field work in WA in a duce, They are surprisingly nimble for a vehicle of that size.  Lot more fun to drive light than heavy though ;-)    If you've spent any time in a duce, then you've had it up on 5 wheels at least once  ;) ;D :o

I did see one get stuck once, and the 5 ton wrecker that tried to get it out got stuck and then the engineers tracked vehicle that tried to get them both out got stuck and they finally managed to get it (And the other vehicles) out with a crane.   I figured if that duce could bury itself far enough out in a muddy field to get a 5 ton and a tracked vehicle stuck trying to get it out, it should be good.

I love em.   Wish I could do one of these projects.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 01:56:14 PM
Oh.. and it gets the about the same fuel mileage fully loaded or empty. It does not really care much.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Sister Wolf on January 12, 2012, 03:17:19 PM
It has a tighter turning radius than a Ford F350. It gets about 10 MPG and I am adding a second 50 gal tank which will give me a max range of no fueling of about 1000 miles.

As for fuel in a full on SHTF setting. It is multi fuel. That means it can burn damn near any flammable liquid. So you see all those stalled out cars. Good. Go drain their motor oil, transmission fluid and gear oil... do a quick filtering (if there is time) dump it in the tank and motor on. You would be awash in fuel in a SHTF world where gas was gone.

That's what I wanted to hear. That's amazing.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on January 12, 2012, 03:31:02 PM
That's what I wanted to hear. That's amazing.
military diesels can run on nearly any oil...
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 03:40:42 PM
military diesels can run on nearly any oil...

It takes some getting used to mentally that you can use more than one fuel in an engine without messing it up. 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: DocRokRx on January 12, 2012, 04:19:26 PM
It takes some getting used to mentally that you can use more than one fuel in an engine without messing it up.

that is so cool. why haven't(?) they miniaturized this (old!) technology for regular cars and/or made it more common!??!? is this one of the trucks that jack mentioned the other day in the call in show?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on January 12, 2012, 05:00:36 PM
military diesels can run on nearly any oil...


Just keep in mind that you need a multifueler to burn practically anything and not all MVs are multi.  The multi has special designed pistons, fuel system and engine timing.  Interesting thing is you can bump start one by rolling backwards and putting it in a forward gear - causing the engine to run backwards due to the near TDC timing.  IMHO the M109 and M820 series trucks are the ultimate in BOVs.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 12, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
that is so cool. why haven't(?) they miniaturized this (old!) technology for regular cars and/or made it more common!??!? is this one of the trucks that jack mentioned the other day in the call in show?

Not sure it would work in a smaller engine format and yes it is one of the trucks that Jack was talking about.

And someone should let Jack know that this thread is here. And you can get them ALOT cheaper than what he suggested. In fact most of the stuff on that link that he posted is double or more than other places that sell the same products.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on January 13, 2012, 07:20:04 AM
CMX --> I pulled the trigger and purchased an M185A3. Will pick it up Memorial Day week.

That is really great, bsutter. Congratulations!

I can see you pulling up to ATVpalooza in that thing. :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on January 13, 2012, 08:01:30 AM
Nic --> I also picked up an M105 trailer to tow behind.  :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 13, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
Nic --> I also picked up an M105 trailer to tow behind.  :D

Please tell me you did not pay what they were asking for that 105.

If you look on Craigslist for your area you will find several that are sub 800.00
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on January 13, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
CMX -  No worries, different supplier with a much more friendly price  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 13, 2012, 09:35:17 AM
CMX -  No worries, different supplier with a much more friendly price  ;)

Good.  :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on January 13, 2012, 11:46:23 AM
CMX - Are they generally sold in different states, or one central location?  WHile I can't do anything now, it would be a fun project to do,.. I've heard there is a depot close to central KY (AVON) and since the BGAD (Bluegrass Army Depot) is close, I would think that there would be some nearby.

I see some on eBay..  Hmm There is a kraz 255 TMM 3 Bridge..That would be fun.. To have the M109a3 and the Kraz - nearly nowhere you couldn't get to..
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 13, 2012, 11:53:01 AM
They are sold all over the place. If you want to get them directly from the US Government here is the site you go to bid on them when they come up for auction.

http://www.govliquidation.com (http://www.govliquidation.com)

Check your state to see what is around you.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on January 13, 2012, 02:10:05 PM
CMX - Are they generally sold in different states, or one central location?  WHile I can't do anything now, it would be a fun project to do,.. I've heard there is a depot close to central KY (AVON) and since the BGAD (Bluegrass Army Depot) is close, I would think that there would be some nearby.

I see some on eBay..  Hmm There is a kraz 255 TMM 3 Bridge..That would be fun.. To have the M109a3 and the Kraz - nearly nowhere you couldn't get to..

Fort Knox generally has a lot of deuces.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 13, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
Fort Knox generally has a lot of deuces.

Can I get one loaded with gold? K Thx Bi
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 13, 2012, 10:16:21 PM
WOOT!

LED Headlight. Yes they are DOT approved.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MY_V8jI9ESw/TxEOQzizLJI/AAAAAAAAB4c/SwJIgnOaDgE/s800/CJM_7212s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on January 14, 2012, 01:03:02 AM
Nice. Even has the waterproof connectors attatched.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 14, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
Nice. Even has the waterproof connectors attatched.

Those are the standard military connections
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on January 16, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
WOOT!

LED Headlight. Yes they are DOT approved.

Why these and not HID or H4?  They are pretty expensive.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 16, 2012, 12:52:57 PM
Why these and not HID or H4?  They are pretty expensive.

Last longer than either of those
Not a single point of failure (with just one bulb)
Draw less current
Better beam pattern
Look cool as shit (very cool looking shit, not your normal shit)
I got them for well under retail

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on January 16, 2012, 04:25:23 PM
Found it: 

Here is a thread I found of another project with the M109.

http://www.militarytrucks.ca/rv_project.htm (http://www.militarytrucks.ca/rv_project.htm)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on January 16, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
Why these and not HID or H4?  They are pretty expensive.

one of the big problems of HID replacements is 99.9% are illegal to install into a vehicle that has regular H series replaceable halogen bulbs, no matter what the package says HID's are meant to be placed into a lens assy made for HID to project the light correctly. you've seen many on the road that don't focus right and throw light all over everywhere except down the road but when you see a caddy-benz-bmw with them they look right. all the DOT rules in the world doesn't keep them from being sold every day sadly.

The LEDs Cmxterra has are Dot approved and have the correct codes on the lamp, you pay more but they fit correctly, friggin bright and really light the road ahead.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on January 17, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
I wondered about a slightly different project.

 Not sure which truck it is, maybe the 815 with a 20' bed, and then build your own box using SIP panels.  I don't know if I would want a 9' tall box all the time, so build it similar to a Hi-lo trailer...

Still looking for a m109a3 - more as to just waiting til I can pick up one.  Mobile Ham shack or smoke shack....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on January 17, 2012, 02:59:12 PM
How about an M820?  It is the big brother to the M109.  It doesn't collapse but it does expand.  17' deep box.  3' expansion on each side.  Comes with everything but the plumbing.


(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab114/slingblade_photos/IMG_05831.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 17, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
Only problem with those is it is based on the 5 ton and you need a CDL to drive it, unlike the 109.

That said they are awesome.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on January 17, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
How about an M820?  It is the big brother to the M109.  It doesn't collapse but it does expand.  17' deep box.  3' expansion on each side.  Comes with everything but the plumbing.


(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab114/slingblade_photos/IMG_05831.jpg)
I thought about the slide outs too..  but wonder if it would make the rig unstable.

Only problem with those is it is based on the 5 ton and you need a CDL to drive it, unlike the 109.

That said they are awesome.
I've seen some commercial rigs licensed without a CDL.. IDK,.. but maybe you can do it... 

However, I'd rather not deal with the paper work and what not as having to had a CDL several years ago.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 17, 2012, 04:42:58 PM
I think the trick to not needing a CDL is if you register it as an RV
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on January 18, 2012, 04:34:58 AM
I thought about the slide outs too..  but wonder if it would make the rig unstable.

maybe it's intended to only slide out once stopped?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on January 18, 2012, 07:34:17 AM
Yep, RV is the ticket although there are some hoops to jump through depending on what state you are in.  The box expands only when not moving.  It takes it from 8' to 14' wide x 17' deep.  The M109 is the hot ticket though.  Anyone interested should check out the M109A3 vs the M109A4.  Both are awesome, but for different reasons.  The A3 is a multifueler and manual trans - simple tech and easy to work on.  The A4 has a newer CAT diesel, auto trans (wife-friendly?), split brake system, CITS - more comforts and more to work on.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 18, 2012, 08:40:22 AM
Yep, RV is the ticket although there are some hoops to jump through depending on what state you are in.  The box expands only when not moving.  It takes it from 8' to 14' wide x 17' deep.  The M109 is the hot ticket though.  Anyone interested should check out the M109A3 vs the M109A4.  Both are awesome, but for different reasons.  The A3 is a multifueler and manual trans - simple tech and easy to work on.  The A4 has a newer CAT diesel, auto trans (wife-friendly?), split brake system, CITS - more comforts and more to work on.

The A4 is nice.. but all the bonuses that you listed were negatives for me since I was looking just for a BOV with the least number of break points.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on January 18, 2012, 12:35:35 PM
The A4 is nice.. but all the bonuses that you listed were negatives for me since I was looking just for a BOV with the least number of break points.

That's why I have a 800 vs a 900 too.  Just have to do some driver training for the family in case I can't drive.  What size are the NDTs on your 109?  Just curious.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on January 18, 2012, 12:55:34 PM
The A4 is nice.. but all the bonuses that you listed were negatives for me since I was looking just for a BOV with the least number of break points.

yeah i'm with you. the least amount of break points is the way to go. less problems on the road while the zombies are after you is a plus for me!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 18, 2012, 02:46:35 PM
That's why I have a 800 vs a 900 too.  Just have to do some driver training for the family in case I can't drive.  What size are the NDTs on your 109?  Just curious.

they are 9.00x20
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 25, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
Update:

Got the LED lights installed. OMG that was easy.

Original light
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Zh3cNvRj5RA/TyA79sOzyOI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/H7k1g7MMm5M/s912/CJM_1821s.jpg)

Taking it out
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8g29ftE6KOA/TyA79JtSVxI/AAAAAAAAB6E/5tBb3wGU0Gk/s912/CJM_1823s.jpg)

New one in
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ho1COCWkJTc/TyA79J7GZoI/AAAAAAAAB6I/xswCv2d0SGA/s912/CJM_1826s.jpg)

Shown with the aux light
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qgk0Lw8_VLc/TyA7838cojI/AAAAAAAAB50/lPudHHvKsHM/s912/CJM_1827s.jpg)

One LED the other not
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZgfBKpbHC4A/TyA782WMr3I/AAAAAAAAB54/FFgdMxenc8c/s912/CJM_1829s.jpg)

Both LED (low beam)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BE7lmg4Bdow/TyA79HnwA4I/AAAAAAAAB6s/C27cvo7rOcY/s912/CJM_1833s.jpg)

LED High Beam
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_7y7IGh3cm4/TyA79xLPKwI/AAAAAAAAB6g/g_Rk01DZPF4/s912/CJM_1835s.jpg)

Side view
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6iYjwaigzKo/TyA79rdvRaI/AAAAAAAAB6c/asJQKhpydhc/s912/CJM_1838s.jpg)

Now I need to start working on finding the marker and tail lights in LED
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on January 25, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
those lights look slick! that's a big improvement and i bet you'll see a whole lot better at night
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 25, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
those lights look slick! that's a big improvement and i bet you'll see a whole lot better at night

I will find out tonight
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on January 25, 2012, 12:14:28 PM
I will find out tonight

pics would be awesome if you could :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 25, 2012, 12:16:41 PM
pics would be awesome if you could :)

There will ALWAYS be pictures :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on January 25, 2012, 03:09:17 PM
looks awesome with those Asphalt melters, can't wait for the nighttime pics  8) great job
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 26, 2012, 09:50:33 AM
I went out last night and did some adjustments on the beams and will want to get to a completely dark place to take the pics. They are very nice and the light is awesome. Good throw for the LEDs and street signs with the reflective surface pop.

They remind me of the HIDs I have on my Xterra but with less current draw and not a single failure point.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Veritas on January 26, 2012, 10:39:46 AM
Totally Totally Awesome!!!! I'm drooling. Awesome posts and pics. Keep it up.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 29, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
Update Pics of Lights:

All the images were shot at the exact same exposure.

Although not shot on the same night showing the same markers you get a general idea of what the stock headlights look like. The road in this image is about 25 yards from the truck.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qs31MFdhAhs/TyX2hBPR8aI/AAAAAAAAB7o/Xu3GoNd3jxA/s800/CJM_7080sold.jpg)

Low beam (there is a sign that is just barely visible about 100 yards away)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-onA2aSks_aI/TyX0rEbYopI/AAAAAAAAB64/0TBzoHd_zv4/s800/CJM_2265slow.jpg)

High beam (sign is very visible now)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fJ0w5DXbnes/TyX0rExYPHI/AAAAAAAAB68/AeKcTZ5L3MQ/s800/CJM_2266shigh.jpg)

High beams with AUX lights on.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5Fu6ZpOHH9M/TyX0rZlzGWI/AAAAAAAAB7E/iRVriAuQDl0/s800/CJM_2267swaux.jpg)

Side view with all forward lights on
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-njlpXenUeak/TyX0rcLAggI/AAAAAAAAB7M/N_q5tj9HS28/s800/CJM_2271swide.jpg)

Shot from slightly behind the front of the truck
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SPPLJpLcAqs/TyX0rsUXnpI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/feXpXC7JQjc/s800/CJM_2270swide2.jpg)

Standing in the middle of the bumper looking forward
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Wy68mMIOg30/TyX0rDjzthI/AAAAAAAAB7g/WI2K9xCvJHU/s800/CJM_2276sbumper.jpg)

I still need to do a little bit of tweaking to get the beams just where I want them. Overall it is a VAST improvement over the standard lights and well worth the money.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: WVMan73 on January 29, 2012, 06:58:24 PM
Holycow cmxterra!!!  Those things really light up the night! Maybe you should call them landing lights and not just headlights? lol  ;D

Awesome job on the photos too. That really shows just how well those new lights light things up. It's hard to believe those are LEDs and just how little power they're taking to give all of that light!

Maybe a pair of LED spotlights up on the cab would go along with those? ;)

Thanks for showing us all how those lights are working for ya cmx!

WVMan73
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on January 29, 2012, 09:46:44 PM
They look Awesome ;) I guarantee you won't have any slow pokes in front of you playing lane hog. You'll be settin' their hair on fire when you hit the high beams
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on January 29, 2012, 09:48:08 PM
Yeah shouldnt have any problems out running those lights. Of course top speed is like 45mph down hill with the wind behind ya right. ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bartsdad on January 29, 2012, 11:21:10 PM
If I may, what kind of current draw do the LEDs have? They are nice.

I may have missed it, but are they DOT legal?

Thanks.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on January 30, 2012, 07:34:05 AM
You're going to be calling down UFOs with those lights on!  ;D

Seriously though, that's some impressive illumination.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 30, 2012, 07:34:47 AM
If I may, what kind of current draw do the LEDs have? They are nice.

I may have missed it, but are they DOT legal?

Thanks.

They are DOT legal and current draw per light is about 2.4amps
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 30, 2012, 02:55:52 PM
A little more work today while the weather was nice

Used a back feed extension cable to test out the A/C. You can also see the bins above the tool chest and the deep basket installed on the door.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YkdWyd6-S2A/TycQYHgFqMI/AAAAAAAAB7w/qRMDD_IZ20A/s912/CJM_0097s.jpg)

From the other side. You can see how bright the fluorescent lights are in this pic. Also notice the new shelf next to the T.V.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-utSWEwY3Leo/TycQYYNa5XI/AAAAAAAAB74/PSKNE25gEf4/s912/CJM_0094s.jpg)

I need to get a new shore power plug on the outside so I don't have to back feed. From now on though I will be keeping the small generator with her along with icky gasoline. It is nice to be able to charge electric tools, watch t.v. and listen to music now. Of course when I get the solar on the roof I should not have to resort to generator power much. Spring time can not get here soon enough.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on January 30, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
I swear that comparing the inside of the M109 to the outside it looks like two different vehicles... Or a vehicle and a small apartment.

Nice work!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on February 08, 2012, 10:06:47 AM
I think I found my refer

http://www.amazon.com/Danby-DAR440BL-4-4-Cubic-Designer-Refrigerator/dp/B002TKJTNI/ref=sr_1_11?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1328653534&sr=1-11

It should fit nicely in the corner under the fire extinguisher (far left side of image)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-utSWEwY3Leo/TycQYYNa5XI/AAAAAAAAB74/PSKNE25gEf4/s912/CJM_0094s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on February 25, 2012, 02:56:21 PM
Got the fridge installed.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iq52_9Xjw2I/T0lYOTK0pXI/AAAAAAAADMQ/2fEBz87cWr4/s912/CJM_1744s.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WzIuWZoTC5w/T0lYOQ4EepI/AAAAAAAADMI/gH9oSA31DVA/s912/CJM_1746s.jpg)

Also re arranged the storage on the door so that it did not mess with your head when the door was shut.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ef5GrgvnL7g/T0lYOQ9j0hI/AAAAAAAADMM/ppOe-mMmvoY/s640/CJM_1755s.jpg)

Showing the new floor runner, fridge and TV ready to go. Almost ready for the first camping/ shakedown trip
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EgNpxrTjBKs/T0lYOnpZpGI/AAAAAAAADMg/pwS8JAmbIWE/s912/CJM_1765s.jpg)

Edit to add.. Also you will notice a bottle opener below the paper towel dispenser.  :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on February 25, 2012, 03:22:01 PM
looks really Awesome cmxterra, would be very convenient if there was an extra bottle opener mounted outside on the doors. LOL for those marathon bottle opening contests or bottle emergencies
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on February 25, 2012, 04:30:27 PM
looks really Awesome cmxterra, would be very convenient if there was an extra bottle opener mounted outside on the doors. LOL for those marathon bottle opening contests or bottle emergencies

that is the plan :-)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on February 25, 2012, 05:44:50 PM
CMxterra you have truely set the bar high with your BOV.   Obviously you pay attention to detail.   Do you have a "Floorplan" you've drawn up?   If not I'd love to see one once you've got things settled.    Are you going to have a "kitchen table/booth" type spot?   What are your plans for the exterior (besides the bottle opener) for camping? 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on February 25, 2012, 06:37:32 PM
CMxterra you have truely set the bar high with your BOV.   Obviously you pay attention to detail.   Do you have a "Floorplan" you've drawn up?   If not I'd love to see one once you've got things settled.    Are you going to have a "kitchen table/booth" type spot?   What are your plans for the exterior (besides the bottle opener) for camping?

I started with a floor plan but soon altered it due to the varying products and sizes of things. I have a general idea in my mind as to how I want it to turn out and there are some aspects of the design I have  yet to build (i.e. the battery bank for the solar panels)

As for the kitchen table I was thinking a fold up table that could be placed outside the vehicle as the inside is not as big as the pictures make it out to be (fisheye lenses do that)

For the exterior I am planning on a 360 deg area lighting. I am thinking one on each corner of the van. LED and flood. I have also flirted with the idea of putting some type of awning on one side. We will see how that works out.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 20, 2012, 07:57:36 PM
Not sure why this thread got unstickied..

But little update.

Got the new screens installed.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PsfWOhVm5js/T2k00yen_gI/AAAAAAAADRY/zEzwaQS0a5U/s800/CJM_3832s.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MjPLCbVpMx0/T2k00mkHrRI/AAAAAAAADRQ/aeEukYoHNuE/s800/CJM_3834s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: kgb on March 21, 2012, 09:58:37 AM
So I thought I would make a post, heck this may even be my first one. As far as I know and have experienced. As long as what ever you are driving and you are not using it for commercial purposes you do not need a CDL, hence the C in CDL. My neighbor  has many historic tractors owns a triple axle Pete with a 48 ft flat deck trailer. He hauls them all over the western states and he hauls his and friends of ours rock crawlers to Moab.

 No CDL needed because it is for recreational purpose.

Look at all the older generation who own a 40ft bus with a 25ft trailer behind it, no CDL there, just watch them drive  ;)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: kgb on March 21, 2012, 10:01:15 AM
Ha it was
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 21, 2012, 10:40:46 AM
So I thought I would make a post, heck this may even be my first one. As far as I know and have experienced. As long as what ever you are driving and you are not using it for commercial purposes you do not need a CDL, hence the C in CDL. My neighbor  has many historic tractors owns a triple axle Pete with a 48 ft flat deck trailer. He hauls them all over the western states and he hauls his and friends of ours rock crawlers to Moab.

 No CDL needed because it is for recreational purpose.

Look at all the older generation who own a 40ft bus with a 25ft trailer behind it, no CDL there, just watch them drive  ;)

Almost.

Once you get to a certain weight you have to have a CDL no matter what you are using the vehicle for. The cut off is 26k pounds.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on March 22, 2012, 10:49:30 AM
cmxterra I saw this on EBAY and thought of you http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200731925510&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

24v impact gun for your truck, thought you might like it
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ncjeeper on March 22, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
I bet that baby would be a bear to handle if it grabbed while drilling.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on March 22, 2012, 11:40:31 AM
I have a cpl 120v models from Ingersol/Rand, they're are fantastic to have around for a quick tire change or a bitchy nut/bolt on a boiler. They are plenty strong for auto/Lt truck nuts. Sometimes though for bigger stuff like Hub nuts or frozen lugs I need the air tools but for a quick brake job or tire they're great. Now i see alot more powerful battery powered impacts arounds finally the batteries caught up a little
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 22, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
Spiffy little item..

Here is what I have in the truck.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200353268_200353268 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200353268_200353268)
(http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/121353_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on March 22, 2012, 01:28:07 PM
Almost.

Once you get to a certain weight you have to have a CDL no matter what you are using the vehicle for. The cut off is 26k pounds.

Not if it is an RV.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 22, 2012, 01:56:09 PM
Not if it is an RV.

interdasting
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 27, 2012, 08:34:30 AM
I got the kick plate installed.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7CtLTtmlFL0/T3HPBNYxSNI/AAAAAAAADUo/FMBQbFk89r4/s912/CJM_3835s.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8GoRGXe5bAs/T3HPBWlzowI/AAAAAAAADUs/OYLb0zYe_x8/s912/CJM_3836s.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YqH27wFLic8/T3HPB-9XaZI/AAAAAAAADU0/AIogvzPNgJs/s912/CJM_3840s.jpg)

Next is to start working on the extra fuel tank.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Roundabouts on March 27, 2012, 11:35:10 AM
Thank you so much for doing this with all the pics. Sooooo Waaay Cooool  8) >drooling< For a long time I have been telling hubby I wanted an "old army truck"  but didn't really know how to describe it.  Emailed him this thread now he will know what I am talking about!  This looks great! Your wife has to love it now!?

@ HUBBY hint hint.    ;D  B-day is less than 2 months away

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Roundabouts on March 27, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
http://www.idahomotorpool.com/    eye candy and to dream
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 28, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
They have some nice stuff there.. Expensive.. but nice.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on March 29, 2012, 03:34:05 PM
This is an awesome thread cmxterra!  I've actually been looking for a truck like that for some time now but wasn't really sure if I wanted to go with the M35 or the M109, but after seeing this [and a few other threads] I've decided on the M109. 

One thing I may suggest, since it may help out people like me, could you put all of the information in the first post you made [IE: pics, websites, products, etc.]?

Can't wait to see what else you are going to do with this!  Definitely a bada$$ truck!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rainmaker4171 on March 29, 2012, 07:38:55 PM
Where can I get one?  Seriously, where do you buy these???
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on March 30, 2012, 01:18:38 AM
Where can I get one?  Seriously, where do you buy these???

You can find them online, if you're lucky. 

From what I've found, these are not as easy to come by as the M35s.  You might want to search for military surplus vehicles in your area and call them to see if they have this specific model.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: grizz2225 on March 30, 2012, 04:44:40 AM
Look around on Craigslist. People price the shit out of them on there but if you haggle well you might get a deal.

One guy on there said it was a pain in the butt getting a civvy title for it. Was that your experience cmxterra? Looking sharp btw.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 30, 2012, 07:18:38 AM
Look around on Craigslist. People price the shit out of them on there but if you haggle well you might get a deal.

One guy on there said it was a pain in the butt getting a civvy title for it. Was that your experience cmxterra? Looking sharp btw.

no problem at all getting the title. Varies by state.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 30, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
Got some more work done.

This is all coming off.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3AEMsfq08r0/T3X8r4-RlfI/AAAAAAAADVg/TF5xG_vZKkE/s912/CJM_4570s.jpg)

Pioneer kit off
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NYvjuG-Zdnc/T3X8srYpb7I/AAAAAAAADVw/tht-53aRJnI/s800/CJM_4572s.jpg)

Drop the spare
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e1PaDNK6i8k/T3X8sJCUDfI/AAAAAAAADVk/6f-TybzSZXw/s912/CJM_4576s.jpg)

Area clear
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Zn7XaUC_zRA/T3X8tEnMzBI/AAAAAAAADV0/A_e-iJm45EM/s912/CJM_4578s.jpg)

First bracket going on. And let me tell you. PITA. There are air tanks and wiring behind that frame rail so extra caution was had drilling the holes.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g8P4l0wRO8Q/T3X8tPGIfPI/AAAAAAAADWA/rDpCt-r69l0/s912/CJM_4582s.jpg)

Second bracket going on
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OCsyryoGwnc/T3X8ts3vQ5I/AAAAAAAADWI/F9SLdKqbG1o/s912/CJM_4750s.jpg)

Using new fasteners did make it easier. This is as far as I have gotten on the spare tank. I have one other little thing I need to do. Relocate the parking brake cable so that the tank does not hit it.

So while taking a brake from that I moved on to something easier.

Here you see the stock position of the air intake.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RX3TGdiT43o/TrRvn-dobyI/AAAAAAAABr0/dN3AQvKyC2M/s800/CJM_1545s.jpg)

New 90deg bend to get it up and away from the fender.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XZB2MUnoKSQ/T3X8uAuFoAI/AAAAAAAADWQ/vnyYHKD2tDg/s912/CJM_4755s.jpg)

Mushroom back on the intake
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ya98ZdSFuI/T3X8uUGI2nI/AAAAAAAADWY/w3CjI2rQiII/s800/CJM_4760s.jpg)

Another view
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YqicTPRuy2U/T3X8ur4kapI/AAAAAAAADWc/f9s0w36Dvi8/s720/CJM_4761s.jpg)

I will see if I am motivated enough to get that brake cable moved later today. Or wait till it is back out of the 50's to work on it.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Morning Sunshine on March 30, 2012, 12:45:44 PM
so, are you going to ditch the spare tire completely?  or you have another home for it?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 30, 2012, 12:49:24 PM
so, are you going to ditch the spare tire completely?  or you have another home for it?

If I am just driving around town I can limp home if I lose a tire. If I am bugging out the spare will be following behind me in the trailer.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Medicineball on March 30, 2012, 02:20:58 PM
My God, you can probably feel my jealousy from wherever you are. Great work!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on March 30, 2012, 03:11:24 PM
I may have missed it, but what kind of trailer will you be pulling? The M101 or?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on March 30, 2012, 03:34:48 PM
if i ever get out in your area, i want to check that beast out.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 30, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
I may have missed it, but what kind of trailer will you be pulling? The M101 or?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3ENXCiTWScY/TGC8LpqUe4I/AAAAAAAABbg/y8EBHiSQ5Bg/s800/CMP_0897a3.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 30, 2012, 03:59:44 PM
if i ever get out in your area, i want to check that beast out.

Just let me know when :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on March 31, 2012, 07:20:56 PM
And got the tank installed.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NAhXsuISqUk/T3eo4lAQ_JI/AAAAAAAADW4/LFmj2fJr3m4/s912/CJM_4835.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vVwculJUMzs/T3eo4w7ARAI/AAAAAAAADW8/YULPAp54Guo/s912/CJM_4837.jpg)

So now I will have 100 gallons plus what ever extra I carry in 5 gallon cans. This will give me a range of over 1200 miles without having to refuel.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on March 31, 2012, 07:56:56 PM
excellent
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ICBM99 on April 02, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
This project reminds me of these: http://www.earthroamer.com/

Albeit much much less expensive!  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 03, 2012, 09:02:58 AM
This project reminds me of these: http://www.earthroamer.com/

Albeit much much less expensive!  ;D

If I win the lottery.. maybe. There are a bunch of things that can go wrong on those things leaving you stranded.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: DrJohn on April 03, 2012, 11:08:37 AM
If I win the lottery.. maybe. There are a bunch of things that can go wrong on those things leaving you stranded.

They look tough, what is their weakness?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 03, 2012, 11:32:53 AM
They look tough, what is their weakness?

Lots of electronics, engine control and function being the most critical.

Plus tied to just one fuel. Diesel.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on April 03, 2012, 02:15:08 PM
Diesel is pricey, I thought it was one of those multi-fuel vehicles.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 03, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
Diesel is pricey, I thought it was one of those multi-fuel vehicles.

Mine is multifuel
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 03, 2012, 08:15:48 PM
Started making mounts for the solar panels today :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on April 03, 2012, 10:30:12 PM
Started making mounts for the solar panels today :D

Can't wait to see how they come out. This is probably one of my most anticipated projects you have going.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 04, 2012, 03:31:36 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_Ups4N1Ukjw/T3y9Wi9dzoI/AAAAAAAADXs/hjDkdSWOQXg/s912/CJM_3107s.jpg)

Thinking of drilling the hole for the power lines under the panels to help keep it water sealed and away from anything that might try to snag the lines.

There is also a slight rise on the far sides of the panels to allow for the junction boxes to not hit the roof (about an inch and a half)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on April 04, 2012, 05:34:39 PM
CMXterra:  Could you tell us how you purchased your truck and what kind of experience it was?   Did you go through the site Jack has referenced in his podcasts or similiar?  If it was a Gvt. auction where you able to inspect it first?   Thanks.    I'm interested if I can get one for under $3K (dunno if that's possible) but I don't want to get burned on something not in running shape or get caught in a bunch of red tape hassle.   I really enjoyed the recent podcast with the guy who got a 5ton, but he's a bit braver than me diagnosing and fixing a valve issue. 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 04, 2012, 08:40:06 PM
CMXterra:  Could you tell us how you purchased your truck and what kind of experience it was?   Did you go through the site Jack has referenced in his podcasts or similiar?  If it was a Gvt. auction where you able to inspect it first?   Thanks.    I'm interested if I can get one for under $3K (dunno if that's possible) but I don't want to get burned on something not in running shape or get caught in a bunch of red tape hassle.   I really enjoyed the recent podcast with the guy who got a 5ton, but he's a bit braver than me diagnosing and fixing a valve issue.

Originally I was going to get it via GL (government liquidation) but they are getting VERY hard to come by (I have bought from them before though and the process is long but not difficult). Had I gotten it from them they do allow you to preview the items. The only problem with that is that sometimes what you are bidding on is not just down the street and could involve some traveling.

I ended up getting it from a fellow locally that buys and sells them. Found him on Craigslist.

Back to your questions. You are not going to find a M109 for under 3k. Those days are long gone. Anything under 4500 and you are lucky. The A4 (which is NOT multifuel) go for 9k plus at the GL auctions.

Edit to add:
The fellow I got mine from had several for sale so I was able to pick the one I wanted. And yes he still has a couple more if anyone is interested. He made sure I was in good working order before I drove off and even fixed a few little problems that were bugging me.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 07, 2012, 09:37:15 AM
A few more pics from the solar install.

Hole drilled on the outside to allow the wires in.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XbhVq_0BTqA/T3-ZYzCuY3I/AAAAAAAADYM/KrJGK0vFs-E/s912/CJM_3138.jpg)

Conduit in place and sealed up
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CN9VRwtFMcQ/T3-ZhB5ghiI/AAAAAAAADYs/bLB8rLUEKGQ/s912/CJM_3143.jpg)

I still need to get the charge controller in as well as hook up the inverter.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 07, 2012, 02:55:09 PM
And new (to me) inverter.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZAW0oh9ikFI/T3-ZdS-Dv8I/AAAAAAAADYc/hW9xbZBcpxQ/s912/CJM_3141.jpg)

It has a built in 100a battery charger for when you are hooked up to shore power and an automatic switch if shore power it dropped to transfer to battery power. Way nice unit.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 07, 2012, 07:06:32 PM
and we have 24v to 110 power up and running.

next up is to wire the inverter into the junction box.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on April 08, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
did you use rigid aluminum for the outside pipe? is that LB "form 7"? or did you use pvc?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 08, 2012, 07:03:26 PM
did you use rigid aluminum for the outside pipe? is that LB "form 7"? or did you use pvc?

PVC
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on April 08, 2012, 07:34:47 PM
PVC

:( hopefully nothing hits it. it may be rigid but metal's WAY better. BUT.....it is also more expensive
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 08, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
if anything hits it.. it is also hitting the solar panels.

In fact it will hit the panels first (unless I back up into a cliff face or something)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on April 08, 2012, 08:21:21 PM
yeah i was more worried about backing up into something LOL
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 08, 2012, 08:29:35 PM
I don't do much backing up with it as you might imagine. Fun enough going forward. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on April 09, 2012, 05:06:14 PM
then as long as it's sun-resistant you won't have any issues. just looking out for ya!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 09, 2012, 05:25:28 PM
then as long as it's sun-resistant you won't have any issues. just looking out for ya!

And it is going to get painted too.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on April 10, 2012, 05:20:26 PM
sweet. love the thread brother!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 12, 2012, 11:06:20 AM
updated front on image.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WFMiNp7hLsE/T4NV0S9I1DI/AAAAAAAADbk/KHtALa6glLA/s912/CJM_5306bwc.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 12, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Next on the list in no particular order:

Get new weather seals for the cab (need to order)
Replace windshields (need to order these)
Replace front window on van (actually have that one sitting in the office waiting for me to do it)
Van area lighting (LED)
LED lighting inside the van body
Finish repainting (spray paint for now)
Get more batteries in the van installed and switched for use with the inverter
Plumb up spare fuel tank
Mount ham radio antennas (in a way that won't get them killed by a branch or low bridge)
Charge controller for the solar panels (24v)
Find out why the van heater is not getting fuel


Wish list:

Winch
Upgraded tires
Some type of waste motor oil filtering (BSutter is working on this and I like what he is doing)
LED tail and marker lights
A/C
Rhino line the floor boards in the cab
Back-up camera
Fix roof on the cab (either body shop or get a new one)

I'm sure there is more.. I just can't think of it at the moment.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Truik on April 13, 2012, 04:04:46 AM
That thing just keeps gettin' better an' better!

Ya gonna put the ZS designation back on it?

 ;D

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 17, 2012, 04:07:15 PM
That thing just keeps gettin' better an' better!

Ya gonna put the ZS designation back on it?

 ;D

It is still there.. I just photoshopped it and the license plate out of the pic :).

It makes an awesome computer desktop image at full resolution.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on April 17, 2012, 08:41:19 PM
Still lookin awesome! Cant wait to see what else you do.

Pardon the ignorance, but what I a ZS designation?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on April 17, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
Still lookin awesome! Cant wait to see what else you do.

Pardon the ignorance, but what I a ZS designation?
ZS=Zombie Squad
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 23, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
Lookie what showed up today

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ifdnIi31taI/T5V0XVOFwNI/AAAAAAAADdo/3yEUbJFEU8M/s912/CJM_0148s.jpg)

 Xantrex C35 Charge controller for the panels on the roof. I wired them up to be 24v instead of 12 so I can tie them into the truck system if need be.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 23, 2012, 01:38:41 PM
More Pics
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Gg5FFwX6pF0/T5Wu0c_jRaI/AAAAAAAADd0/wwDsoZX-FSk/s912/CJM_0150.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EaRtsH-LSfo/T5Wu0ShNd8I/AAAAAAAADdw/rChnx1WBQYQ/s912/CJM_0151.jpg)

And the radio for good measure
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pact2TdCU0k/T5Wu0wf0H4I/AAAAAAAADeA/UmPv6E0vKQ8/s912/CJM_0154.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on April 23, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
I think it would be cool to have a hatch between the cab and the box (van, as you call it).  This might take some work, but I think it would have several advantages.

It would probably make the lovely Mrs and the kiddos feel better if you can all talk to each other (without radios) and see each other.  You can switch places between front and back while on the move.  You can check on them, make sure everyone is okay.  Perhaps even take care of things on the move if nature calls.  And of course, if you wake up to the zombies knocking on the door, you can hop to the driver's seat without the need to fight your way to the cab.  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Falling_blue on April 23, 2012, 08:00:48 PM
If anyone's interested just saw 2 x M109s in what I would think is decent condition (didn't see them running but was told they run) in Central Oklahoma for $6000-6500.  Not sure if that's a good price or not but they looked clean.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 23, 2012, 10:25:37 PM
I think it would be cool to have a hatch between the cab and the box (van, as you call it).  This might take some work, but I think it would have several advantages.

It would probably make the lovely Mrs and the kiddos feel better if you can all talk to each other (without radios) and see each other.  You can switch places between front and back while on the move.  You can check on them, make sure everyone is okay.  Perhaps even take care of things on the move if nature calls.  And of course, if you wake up to the zombies knocking on the door, you can hop to the driver's seat without the need to fight your way to the cab.  ;D

great idea. Not sure how to make it work and not cost a fortune.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on April 24, 2012, 08:51:50 AM
CM, check out http://www.accordionboot.com/

I used this to connect the bed and cab of a pickup very successfully (no leaks) back in my big stereo days.  As close as the box and cab are on the 109s I bet the extra wide one would make the connection.  I would guess you would have to change some of the bracing in the cab and maybe the box to make a crawl space under the box's window and probably under the cab/hard-top joint.  It wouldn't be walk-through - more like crawl-through.

I thought about doing the same thing only going up through the roof of the cab into the overhang on the box.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 24, 2012, 11:00:59 AM
Cleaned up the charge controller
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-94mnjjoekww/T5bbzBLfppI/AAAAAAAADeM/6mzyKbxmN28/s912/CJM_0551.jpg)

And here is what I am feeding the power into
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YS2C7hOIMO4/T5bb0ddLGcI/AAAAAAAADeU/IJVcLlazbQ8/s912/CJM_0552.jpg)


Now I either need to improve my carpentry skills or find someone local to make a bench to cover that area up.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on April 24, 2012, 11:22:34 AM
you need to paint the backboard for the controller.
but looking damn good!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 24, 2012, 01:10:30 PM
Also trying to decide if I want to add two more batteries to the bank.... Hmmm
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on April 24, 2012, 03:05:45 PM
Also trying to decide if I want to add two more batteries to the bank.... Hmmm
2 (sets) is 1, 1 is... not enough..
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 25, 2012, 02:58:45 PM
2 (sets) is 1, 1 is... not enough..

I am leaning that way too. It would be nice to not have to worry about having a sunny day for a couple days and still be able to run the fridge to keep food.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 03, 2012, 08:57:26 AM
Next up is to get a battery cut off switch so I can choose to run the inverter off of either the truck batteries or the solar set up.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on May 03, 2012, 09:25:42 AM
Next up is to get a battery cut off switch so I can choose to run the inverter off of either the truck batteries or the solar set up.
When I was running two batteries in my truck, I used a $20 battery solenoid so I didn't have to run heavy gauge wire to the dash, but could switch it on and off at my leisure for charging or emergency starting.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Orionblade on May 04, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
Suggestion for the cab-to-van connection.

Cut your holes, use steel C-channel to line the holes, but don't weld it into the wall - instead, float it like a panel-in-molding door, only inside out. The channel goes around the cut edge of the metal, and you can tack weld the four sections to the cab, but be ready to grind off the tacks. Then weld the four sections together, grind off the tacks, and you've got a floating frame. Caulk the dickens out of it, and do this on both the van side and the cab side of the jump. Between the two, you can simply slide in a steel box that fits tightly, and either pop rivet it to the two frames and caulk, or tack weld it all the way around.

The C channel and the caulk should direct any rainwater down and around the opening, instead of forcing it to pile up on a flat surface. You could add to that tendency by putting a little "spoiler" on the top rear of the cab, to act, in effect, like flashing, or a roof overhang. Might even be able to find a bug deflector type deal that'd do the trick.

Project's looking ridiculously awesome. I'm currently working on an Yamaha RS250. You could probably strap my BOV to the back of yours and not even notice. Hell, I could probably plug in all my tools, and finish the restoration in the back of your BOV, too!

Keep up the wickedly awesome work.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: adam165 on May 05, 2012, 08:46:37 PM
You could find a commercial truck salvage yard and get the rubber boot that goes between the cab and sleeper pretty cheap.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Orionblade on May 08, 2012, 11:55:44 AM
You could find a commercial truck salvage yard and get the rubber boot that goes between the cab and sleeper pretty cheap.

But that would obviate the need to drive over to my place and use my tig welder... and then I wouldn't be able to finagle my way behind the wheel for a beer and burger run... THINK man, THINK!!!!

 :P
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 08, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Suggestion for the cab-to-van connection.

Cut your holes, use steel C-channel to line the holes, but don't weld it into the wall - instead, float it like a panel-in-molding door, only inside out. The channel goes around the cut edge of the metal, and you can tack weld the four sections to the cab, but be ready to grind off the tacks. Then weld the four sections together, grind off the tacks, and you've got a floating frame. Caulk the dickens out of it, and do this on both the van side and the cab side of the jump. Between the two, you can simply slide in a steel box that fits tightly, and either pop rivet it to the two frames and caulk, or tack weld it all the way around.

The C channel and the caulk should direct any rainwater down and around the opening, instead of forcing it to pile up on a flat surface. You could add to that tendency by putting a little "spoiler" on the top rear of the cab, to act, in effect, like flashing, or a roof overhang. Might even be able to find a bug deflector type deal that'd do the trick.

Project's looking ridiculously awesome. I'm currently working on an Yamaha RS250. You could probably strap my BOV to the back of yours and not even notice. Hell, I could probably plug in all my tools, and finish the restoration in the back of your BOV, too!

Keep up the wickedly awesome work.

Not sure the falls into my comfort zone. Feel free to lend a hand though :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nadir_E on May 08, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
CMXterra - I couldn't tell in the pic if there was some kind of locking device on the fridge door, but if there isn't and you intend to leave the pavement, I'd suggest adding one so it doesn't swing open when you're crossing uneven terrain.

Looking good overall.  Interested to hear how the shake-down camping trip goes.

-N
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 08, 2012, 12:46:15 PM
CMXterra - I couldn't tell in the pic if there was some kind of locking device on the fridge door, but if there isn't and you intend to leave the pavement, I'd suggest adding one so it doesn't swing open when you're crossing uneven terrain.

Looking good overall.  Interested to hear how the shake-down camping trip goes.

-N

right now the locking device is some electrical tape.  :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Orionblade on May 09, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Not sure the falls into my comfort zone. Feel free to lend a hand though :)

I found my 220V outlet in my garage.

The hard way.

Almost said goodbye to my 12V battery charger. However, she survived, and so did I, smoke and sparks notwithstanding.

I am rewiring the outlet to a big 3-prong 220-compatible outlet and a box with a cover on it... instead of the standard 2-prong, polarized outlet that's on it now. *facepalm*

Swing by if you want some TIG welding done - I pick up a tank of argon next week. I figure 2-3 hours for fabrication and weatherproofing for your project is a decent estimate. i.e. bring hot dogs, buns, and beer, and we're set.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 09, 2012, 10:24:40 PM
I found my 220V outlet in my garage.

The hard way.

Almost said goodbye to my 12V battery charger. However, she survived, and so did I, smoke and sparks notwithstanding.

I am rewiring the outlet to a big 3-prong 220-compatible outlet and a box with a cover on it... instead of the standard 2-prong, polarized outlet that's on it now. *facepalm*

Swing by if you want some TIG welding done - I pick up a tank of argon next week. I figure 2-3 hours for fabrication and weatherproofing for your project is a decent estimate. i.e. bring hot dogs, buns, and beer, and we're set.

yeah.. and what state are you in again? :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 11, 2012, 01:29:17 PM
New windshields showed up today.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ne7_M-q4AEY/T61oNqunubI/AAAAAAAADhg/ks8AGoE2sYo/s800/newwindshields.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on May 11, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
Oh man.  Me = jealous!  I got soaked running on the highway in the rain.  Where did you buy them?  PM me the cost if you don't mind sharing.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 11, 2012, 02:07:16 PM
Oh man.  Me = jealous!  I got soaked running on the highway in the rain.  Where did you buy them?  PM me the cost if you don't mind sharing.

Got em on Ebay for 149 each.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 11, 2012, 02:25:25 PM
And more goodness...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D7OvPBDYRnk/T611UAOgkCI/AAAAAAAADho/8Yh8AJw4hO8/s800/photo%25286%2529.JPG)

With diffusion front. These will be mounted to the back of the van to illuminate there. Depending on how these work I will either get more of the same or some that are less diffuse for the sides.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on May 11, 2012, 02:39:34 PM
Awesome new additions! Can't wait to see what else you have coming!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 12, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
Awesome new additions! Can't wait to see what else you have coming!

Some boring stuff coming up. Battery bank switch and some conduit to run battery and other cables in the back.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on May 12, 2012, 12:20:03 PM
if you don't mind sharing, how much and where did you get the light set :P
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 14, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
if you don't mind sharing, how much and where did you get the light set :P

got them on Ebay for 179 for the set..

And my battery switch showed up today
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QWdlYuGlVMw/T7FkbMSABGI/AAAAAAAADiY/akqwI0apQ50/s800/photo%25285%2529.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 17, 2012, 12:23:14 PM
Got the new 24v alternator in.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WBkp9zpLQxE/T7VBr5aimII/AAAAAAAADnw/LCgtt569boI/s720/IMAGE_C0A45AE0-0E29-4B6A-8D0C-4949C06E9E25.JPG)

I still need to order the 12v one.

This next build session is going to be epic. Between putting in the new windshields to the battery switch to this.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 21, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Fun last couple days.

I got the new windshields put in. (pics to come soon)

Installed a second set of two 12v batteries for a total of 4 (2 series + 2 parallel)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1UePF7Csoz0/T7sHoJAFv0I/AAAAAAAADos/rtJlqk2ulTA/s800/IMAGE_74777182-8B76-4754-B9DA-C6EE5D3D9F67.JPG)

Installed the battery switch so now I can go from either the M109's starting batteries (which are puny compared to what I have in the back now) or the solar battery bank.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CbYRoPtPN0M/T7sHqmCEpbI/AAAAAAAADo0/FMtEwjH3b-w/s800/IMAGE_407CA18D-2F5B-4992-802B-917B1B9C85CA.JPG)

And started on the carpentry to cover up the batteries and to offer some storage of the genny and other misc. stuff.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q2emMqfMZA8/T7sHsgVt41I/AAAAAAAADo8/zvAk283Zycs/s800/IMAGE_D369C9AC-CBA4-426A-8DA3-C5CC72146F4A.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on May 22, 2012, 12:02:13 PM
Man, it's starting to look like a Mad Scientist's Lair back there. Pretty soon your going to have to put in a Jacob's Ladder and Tesla Coil!

Seriously though, nice work, cmx!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 22, 2012, 09:04:04 PM
Mounting idea for the LED area lights (Thanks for the idea Bill)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lnSLB2srIq4/T7vraoJUaJI/AAAAAAAADpQ/fP_6wYhnQAc/s800/IMAGE_B7FAA780-0A85-46BB-8284-7C4C55FEFDF0.JPG)

Windshields in.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AiqRMrFdC6w/T7vrosdOy1I/AAAAAAAADpY/_6kMCj00Xcs/s800/IMAGE_41EB4005-E871-4746-8F9E-0D8218988040.JPG)

Fridge stocked
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0h2m3aYKGmE/T7vrzIpWATI/AAAAAAAADpg/ySBAY70jo3E/s640/IMAGE_5923FC44-B13A-4E36-8DE8-3F1A427DD135.JPG)

More fun. Mainly to cover up the battery area and offer some hidden storage space
Not completed by the way.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RfQyatej3YY/T7xGAPsAmQI/AAAAAAAADps/fBiKDilVIQ4/s800/IMAGE_00B485A7-BAB7-454A-8603-67A6374724D6.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on May 23, 2012, 12:56:10 AM
Way too cool! Boxed wine though? Lmao
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nimzy88 on May 23, 2012, 10:01:23 AM
Quote
Way too cool! Boxed wine though? Lmao

exactly what I thought til the GF saw it and said thats what I better have if I think I am ever going to get one and have her ride in it. Now I am wondering if that means the bargaining process is completed and I can go ahead my own M109.  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on May 23, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
exactly what I thought til the GF saw it and said thats what I better have if I think I am ever going to get one and have her ride in it. Now I am wondering if that means the bargaining process is completed and I can go ahead my own M109.  ;D

LOL! I do believe it has. Just pick up a couple boxes on the way home and leave them on the passenger seat. Then if she complains you can just say "you said if there is boxed wine I can get it." Then walk away. Lol
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 23, 2012, 01:55:33 PM
how the genny and spare water will fit.. Now I just need to skin it and add the door.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F8YPbt7XKSc/T71AU9I-k-I/AAAAAAAADp8/ZvdZb3E0np0/s800/IMAGE_24B2C910-DE82-4AB1-8A4B-26F05FCFD4EB.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 23, 2012, 09:31:50 PM
Had a productive day today

Got the face cut out for the door
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hyLAdqHgBDw/T72SuZbWecI/AAAAAAAADqc/Wh3aeWGAh5k/s800/IMAGE_3DB19575-0598-4DCE-BE9D-AE4DDD0BE594.JPG)

Door made and hung (had to make it as it was a custom size hole)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2ICVCud5Ozs/T72q8c4kE5I/AAAAAAAADqo/MVNFkbqO1Ik/s800/IMAGE_EFDF7459-6ADB-4FEA-8EAF-DAFACCC90271.JPG)

All together now
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OQdCHHo1YDQ/T72q9xVnx_I/AAAAAAAADqw/RoSw6aJNLjk/s800/IMAGE_C0DE459D-1902-4DEE-9912-89FA471A3F47.JPG)

Ta Da!!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pv8Ilt5nb28/T72q-m64LFI/AAAAAAAADq4/eexcfDWH-Sg/s800/IMAGE_F5BD9977-1668-4E2E-B9F4-B64CB395DB46.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nadir_E on May 24, 2012, 09:14:07 AM
Just me, but I'm thinking you might want more doors there so you can easily access the batteries.

Looking good as it comes along!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 24, 2012, 09:31:33 AM
Just me, but I'm thinking you might want more doors there so you can easily access the batteries.

Looking good as it comes along!

The face panel is attached with screws for easy removal. Also I am making the top pivot on hinges so I will have top access as well.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on May 24, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
The face panel is attached with screws for easy removal. Also I am making the top pivot on hinges so I will have top access as well.
ah good. i was worried about easy access also. keep up the good work!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: lifeofchaos13 on May 24, 2012, 12:28:02 PM
Man I am so envious. We have a few of these on my post and I would love to get my hands on one of them
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Morning Sunshine on May 24, 2012, 05:44:34 PM
seems to me you have some wasted space there above the batteries and below the counter top.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 24, 2012, 08:53:39 PM
seems to me you have some wasted space there above the batteries and below the counter top.

Not too wasted. It is a good place to put baggage or to let a 3 year old run his cars.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on May 25, 2012, 10:22:50 AM
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb444/wcalla/CJM_1093.jpg)Yep, Hello Kitty will blend in nicely.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on May 25, 2012, 10:48:52 AM
ROFL,  Urbanite Metro camouflage LOL
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 26, 2012, 09:50:56 AM
ha ha

Here is a crappy panorama I shot with my phone. It gives a more complete picture (punny) of the inside.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f5QzwSVmDTo/T8D7V706v4I/AAAAAAAADro/FOxOPvRAmdI/s1280/panorama.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on May 26, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
Lookin good!  8)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 27, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
One happy passenger
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lY6hA5vGmsA/T8J6Omw3rJI/AAAAAAAADsI/LkPAQcft4Ng/s800/IMAGE_B42CD4E9-0804-4BD5-A4CE-42268EF2A633.JPG)


First meal in the truck

For the kiddo
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xjrr5nhIBqs/T8J6TmsGqJI/AAAAAAAADsQ/_SLbqqiqRQc/s800/IMAGE_38AAFC60-6C43-4E64-A0FA-31E71E2F9604.JPG)

For me
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lb9RRcptiPE/T8J6WcUcDBI/AAAAAAAADsY/cI9N6fTAvfk/s800/IMAGE_4F256228-2EDF-487B-977A-7099B122D3B5.JPG)

With the windows open I did not have any fear of cooking back there as there was plenty of air movement. At night it was not stuffy (again plenty of air movement). I really need to do a week long base camp style camp to see how it all works out. I also think I need more solar on the roof as after two days (one of which was cloudy) I was getting a little low on juice. So I figure two more panels would make it charge up faster on the sunny days.

This was just a short overnight trip and I have already started a list of things I need to add to the truck. Good learning experience.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nadir_E on May 27, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
Might want to put one of those battery powered carbon-monoxide monitors in the sleeping area, just in case.  Similarly, a small fan blowing out the window could go a long way toward keeping any CO build-up to a minimum.

Awesome to see it go from project to working vehicle now! :)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexasGirl on May 28, 2012, 01:22:15 AM
I also think I need more solar on the roof as after two days (one of which was cloudy) I was getting a little low on juice. So I figure two more panels would make it charge up faster on the sunny days.

Adding more panels may or may not make a difference on cloudy days.  While it would seem that you would get more power, there may be a hitch.

With charge controllers, the output of the solar panels must exceed the nominal battery voltage by about two volts.  If there's not quite enough voltage to charge on a cloudy day (let's say it's only 11 volts on a 12 volt system) adding more of "not enough voltage" won't help. 

With the right charger controller, panels may be wired in series, yielding a higher input voltage.  Let's say two panels were put in series, twice the voltage of what's there now.  On a cloudy day, our hypothetical case would have 22 volts coming in (instead off 11), which is plenty to charge, trickle, or float the batteries. 

If a standard PWM charge controller would accommodate the higher input voltage, the excess voltage will be dissipated as heat, which is very inefficient.  Wired in series, the panels will deliver 1/2 the charge current.   A MPPT charge controller, while costing a little more, will convert the excess voltage into useable power (current).

"But, what if I don't want to upgrade my PWM controller?"

There is a "rig-up" way to get around the cloudy day scenario, but you will need to check the max input voltage on your charge controller.  If it's several times higher than your solar panel's max output, you could re-wire the panel configuration with a "series/parallel" switch.  On sunny days, all the panels would run in "parallel" for maximum current.  On a cloudy day, flip the switch so that half the panels would be in series with the other half, doubling the voltage at the expense of getting half the current.

~TG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nadir_E on May 28, 2012, 09:31:45 AM
Excellent post, TG.  I was unaware of the issue of insufficient voltage relative to the charge controller.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 28, 2012, 12:53:30 PM
Adding more panels may or may not make a difference on cloudy days.  While it would seem that you would get more power, there may be a hitch.

With charge controllers, the output of the solar panels must exceed the nominal battery voltage by about two volts.  If there's not quite enough voltage to charge on a cloudy day (let's say it's only 11 volts on a 12 volt system) adding more of "not enough voltage" won't help. 

With the right charger controller, panels may be wired in series, yielding a higher input voltage.  Let's say two panels were put in series, twice the voltage of what's there now.  On a cloudy day, our hypothetical case would have 22 volts coming in (instead off 11), which is plenty to charge, trickle, or float the batteries. 

If a standard PWM charge controller would accommodate the higher input voltage, the excess voltage will be dissipated as heat, which is very inefficient.  Wired in series, the panels will deliver 1/2 the charge current.   A MPPT charge controller, while costing a little more, will convert the excess voltage into useable power (current).

"But, what if I don't want to upgrade my PWM controller?"

There is a "rig-up" way to get around the cloudy day scenario, but you will need to check the max input voltage on your charge controller.  If it's several times higher than your solar panel's max output, you could re-wire the panel configuration with a "series/parallel" switch.  On sunny days, all the panels would run in "parallel" for maximum current.  On a cloudy day, flip the switch so that half the panels would be in series with the other half, doubling the voltage at the expense of getting half the current.

~TG

I was just thinking of the added current for the sunny days to help top off the batteries more so than the added voltage for the cloudy days (although on the cloudy days I was still seeing some charging)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexasGirl on May 28, 2012, 05:45:46 PM
Generally on cloudy days there is some variation to the solar intensity.  If the level is close to the threshold (battery voltage + 2v), there will be times where it is above the +2 threshold and provide a good charge rate, times where it is only slightly above battery voltage and might trickle a little, and times where it falls below battery voltage and charging stops.

Adding panels is good up to the point they exceed the current rating of the charge controller.  When that happens, some will do an automatic shutdown, but many cheaper ones just let the magic smoke out. 

Try not to let the magic smoke out of any electronic device.  As long as the magic smoke stays inside the box, the product will work just fine.  But once you see the magic smoke getting loose, it will no longer work properly.  I have yet to see anyone get all the magic smoke back into the product where it's like new again.

~TG

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 28, 2012, 07:44:55 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S6Klw7UW1dU/T8N6yBfwmsI/AAAAAAAADso/lNZMRgfi16M/s640/IMAGE_8D01D42B-8669-4919-A3B6-410A4F7633EA.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexasGirl on May 28, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
That's coolest RV on the block!  ...or anywhere!!

Have the neighbors said anything?

~TG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 28, 2012, 08:43:05 PM
That's coolest RV on the block!  ...or anywhere!!

Have the neighbors said anything?

~TG

All the time. The guys are all "hell yeah" the wives are "over my dead body"
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 01, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Another two panels ready to go up
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yjj79Kiy7VQ/T8g04X9wOTI/AAAAAAAADtU/yviVF1ZvE1o/s800/IMAGE_6B6A78B6-0F43-43CA-8A93-1E8B9ECC8064.JPG)

It got dark quick.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zoyiuWHwW80/T8g060dUswI/AAAAAAAADtc/9zGIs6iX5OA/s800/IMAGE_4E7B7818-F6B9-4F92-BF25-6A29BD5F6ADE.JPG)

The LED lights are on a magnetic base so it makes them easy to reconfigure
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LOnCH74qoHQ/T8g08qnI4xI/AAAAAAAADtk/FHqKnfg8vkI/s800/IMAGE_5E737CDF-4B0D-4E31-A6F6-8B973D83C7F5.JPG)

And these two lights do rather well. I think I will have to get some more :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xbxkxPYSLgQ/T8g0-IHAGYI/AAAAAAAADts/qXC6lmlT9jY/s800/IMAGE_B80FEACB-8842-4147-9230-424B92704422.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Dawgus on June 01, 2012, 11:13:25 AM
Might want to put one of those battery powered carbon-monoxide monitors in the sleeping area, just in case.  Similarly, a small fan blowing out the window could go a long way toward keeping any CO build-up to a minimum

 Great idea. Maybe consider surface mounting a bathroom exhaust fan and venting it outside with a drier vent pipe.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 01, 2012, 11:31:59 AM
There is already a exhaust fan on the truck.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on June 01, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
Those exterior work lights are awesome, cmx!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 05, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lXJHdNDXqBs/T84rDiibC4I/AAAAAAAADuU/snvCqaeu5qo/s800/CJM_0501_2_3_4_5_6.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zc9G3uoSKRI/T84rpsUrDFI/AAAAAAAADuw/_-imXkMY1E4/s800/CJM_0508_09_10_11_12_13_14_.jpg)

Too bad I was not parked in a better place to get these HDR images.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: slingblade on June 05, 2012, 04:00:47 PM
Nice shots.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 06, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
Nice shots.

Thanks. I need to get some HDR images like that out in the wild instead of in front of the house. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on June 07, 2012, 08:44:59 AM
Thanks. I need to get some HDR images like that out in the wild instead of in front of the house. :)
yes you do... get out there!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on June 07, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
Cool shots, cmx!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on June 07, 2012, 09:40:05 AM
Are you shooting HDR shots with a DSLR, or are you post processing the shots or both?   I'm interested in playing with HDR but don't know enough about my camera yet.   Great shots, can't wait to see more!!!!!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: vagabond1101 on June 07, 2012, 09:59:33 AM
Did some more research about the cabinets.

After going to Home Depot and looking at the ones I posted above I am having second thoughts about them. They seem to have been made in a half assed way. The top is actually smaller than the drawers under them so there is some space on either side which looks like crap. Another problem is that with the way the hinges are on the vertical cabinet you can not put it directly next to the cabinet with the drawers. This is not acceptable.

Looks like Lowes sells a more thought out unit. A little more expensive but seems more refined and complete. I am going to do a drive by tomorrow to put eyes on it and see if they are as good as they look online and worth the extra cash.

Here is the HD unit
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UlU53PE4MOM/Tt0vxqmTCOI/AAAAAAAABvs/aqcvLyHUm74/s300/h2.jpg)

Here is the Lowes unit
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jXNSDBL9Lxw/TuFp1Q7rXGI/AAAAAAAABwA/B538QEHIzPY/s500/lowes.jpg)

The only thing that bums me out about the Lowes cabinet is that they do not have a five drawer unit that would go with it. I would have to get two of the same.
Speaking as an aircraft mechanic, the BEST toolboxes I have found short of snap-on would actually be Kobalt toolboxes and they can be found at Lowes.  They're very well made and very durable, pricewise my personal toolbox which has around 13 drawers and is about 4-5 feet wide for around 700 dollars.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 07, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
Are you shooting HDR shots with a DSLR, or are you post processing the shots or both?   I'm interested in playing with HDR but don't know enough about my camera yet.   Great shots, can't wait to see more!!!!!

Both

Nikon D300s body and I think I shot that image with the 18-35mm
Post processing using Photomatix
I used a total of 7 images at different exposure to compile the image.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on June 07, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
Man, this whole project is just too cool.  All these DIY RV projects make me green with envy (olive drab in this case). 

A friend of a friend stopped by my 'stead while traveling through in his converted Sprinter van and he'd put in a diesel powered stovetop/heater. He said it was designed for boats and vented outdoors.  When you wanted to use it as a heater, you put the lid down, a fan came on and blew across the stovetop.  Never a chance that you'd forget to fill the propane tank and be without heat or the ability to cook since you have a full tank anytime you travel.  He said it was his most expensive addition in his whole conversion, but wow, what a stove!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TLBones on June 07, 2012, 02:07:56 PM
WOOT!

LED Headlight. Yes they are DOT approved.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MY_V8jI9ESw/TxEOQzizLJI/AAAAAAAAB4c/SwJIgnOaDgE/s800/CJM_7212s.jpg)

CMX could you let me know where you aquired these/what brand?   I'm thinking of putting them in a CJ7.
Thanks
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 07, 2012, 05:30:56 PM
CMX could you let me know where you aquired these/what brand?   I'm thinking of putting them in a CJ7.
Thanks

They are made by Truck-Lite and do come in a 12v configuration. I got mine on Ebay. Look around and you can find them for a good price.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Gumpmann84 on June 16, 2012, 06:02:41 PM
Just found the thread. Very. VERY. Jealous.
Keep it camo, but get rid of the black, very few black patches in nature. Lots of tans, and a few greens.
Awesome!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 24, 2012, 12:42:02 PM
PSA

Looks like Ft Hood in Texas has a few of these that are going up for auction soon.

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/search?cmd=results&fromsearch=true&searchparam_words=M109a3&searchparam_fsc=&searchparam_location=&searchparam_event_id=&searchparam_warehouse=&searchparam_lot_number=&searchparam_niin=&searchparam_nsn=&searchparam_company=&searchparam_cage_code=&searchparam_end_item_identification=&searchparam_demil_flag=&searchparam_days_since_replication=&searchparam_serviceable_flag=&searchparam_closing_today=&sort_column=lot_number&ascending=1&_per_page=30&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on June 24, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
I took a look at the link above and It is just not correct. All of the 5 ton trucks are labeled 2-1/2 ton, and every price for any item is 150.00. The price thing I can understand, it is an auction, who knows where the price will settle in.

I am slowly returning to the land of the living.

BSutter
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: M1Andy on June 25, 2012, 07:11:23 PM
I saw in a previous post that you referred to AC install.  Was that air conditioner?  How did you do that?

Thanks!  Enjoying this thread tremendously.  I think that I may be picking one of these up shortly.  Believe it or not, a guy has one for sale in the neighborhood.  Gave me the chance to actually see 1st hand the size and space you are working with inside and out. 

Thanks,

Andy
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 25, 2012, 08:08:48 PM
No Air conditioning.. but I do have 110 alternating current (AC) in the back now

But air conditioning would be a nice addition.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: M1Andy on June 26, 2012, 06:28:59 AM
How difficult would that be to do now with some of the small units on the market?

thanks
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on June 26, 2012, 10:16:40 AM
No Air conditioning.. but I do have 110 alternating current (AC) in the back now

But air conditioning would be a nice addition.
How difficult would that be to do now with some of the small units on the market?

thanks
I just stumbled upon a unit that might work.  It a PetCool (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thermassure3.com%2F&ei=HODpT7KrMoWk9ATD8cDEDQ&usg=AFQjCNFddbgwvKV2vmUOMJAYmlcZyiw5xQ) - a external unit for a pet for AC and heat - The put out about 2500 btus.  I've seen them in some of the custom tiny travel trailers.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on June 26, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
thats a nice little unit but def too small btu wise for the Landmaster2 Extreme. the avg human puts out about 400 btus plus moisture, you'd need atleast 8,000btu to make up for the people and equipment on board not to mention heat load if its in the sun, ever better with 12,500btu for a roof mount RV style from coleman or a quality Delongi 12k portable if you have room inside to store it. to give you an idea  of the capacity of the automotive ac system an 70-80s gm car with R-12 and a 3.75 pound charge could put out almost 36,000btus of cooling power just something to think about in sizing ac units
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 26, 2012, 09:59:06 PM
A few beauty shots from today
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MXEuTDDQEzg/T-n7edmg4VI/AAAAAAAADzI/sA1jEL-Pq18/s800/IMAGE_BBB50366-98F5-4D62-8306-8A398078598A.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H_czQMjRZOo/T-n7pup1aKI/AAAAAAAADzQ/89zUck1WUak/s800/IMAGE_90077CC9-6816-469A-AB80-048B567406D3.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ftgjS3sWJ00/T-n7s8N0szI/AAAAAAAADzg/Ccaih3evGeg/s1152/IMAGE_41C15819-88D3-4604-B901-1581A48BF92E.JPG)

Was out today replacing a few old reflectors on it getting it ready for the 4th of July parade.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 29, 2012, 08:42:33 PM
A couple mods for the 4th

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p1-qyh19W-g/T-5d4rAd1JI/AAAAAAAADz4/pvAdOACxEro/s800/IMAGE_BD38DCBC-1FF1-4DB5-A9E3-D2A053328E6F.JPG)

and on the back
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oDE-BLjs4tI/T-5d2eHX2KI/AAAAAAAADzw/6Fx0lf_2NBE/s800/IMAGE_CDCD4D9E-8F32-4A4E-8ED4-1E5A0E255064.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexasGirl on July 01, 2012, 01:47:14 AM
Looks nice!

Okay...  For us country girl clueless non-military women folks, what does the gear/cog thingie type emblem mean?

~TG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 01, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
Looks nice!

Okay...  For us country girl clueless non-military women folks, what does the gear/cog thingie type emblem mean?

~TG

If you have access to an AR-15 take a look at the bolt face. :)
I got them from ar15.com
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on July 02, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
Looks nice!

Okay...  For us country girl clueless non-military women folks, what does the gear/cog thingie type emblem mean?

~TG
TG - Not just the country girl clueless non-military.  Some of us former US Navy country men didn't know either..

Looks nice.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: doublehelix on July 02, 2012, 11:42:36 AM
LOL

I thought they were crop circles  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 02, 2012, 11:50:29 AM
Here is an image of the bolt face :)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YWg7F0TdmH0/T_HfJPafB8I/AAAAAAAAD0E/X-w2aMsaAxo/s800/IMAGE_E17C51E2-BA1B-4485-9E36-EFE81D47DBCA.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on July 02, 2012, 11:54:57 AM
Might just be the shadows of the picture, but that bolt looks like it could use a little cleaning.  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 02, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Almost ready for the parade.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-shJLcHhnd2w/T_JdfB9ZvsI/AAAAAAAAD0Q/lhqEPZpq-5s/s912/IMAGE_EBA43687-657E-4B54-A84D-35A00CAEEF99.JPG)

the kiddos will ride in the M101a3 tossing out candy.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nxRZvTDzxOc/T_Jdhx58c1I/AAAAAAAAD0Y/CRf49cT_U9k/s800/IMAGE_8D79F7A1-31D9-4120-8FE1-439F40856311.JPG)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 02, 2012, 08:51:56 PM
Might just be the shadows of the picture, but that bolt looks like it could use a little cleaning.  ;) ;D ;D

shut your mouth. It is just shadows :P
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: statesofmind on July 12, 2012, 06:33:10 AM
Very sweet work.  Lots of great ideas.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 29, 2012, 08:13:39 PM
Little update time.

I replaced the rear brake/turn lights with LED replacements. I also picked up (but have not replaced) some new panels for the roof. Switching out the 4 90w 12v panels for 2 236w 24v panels. It will be a nice bump in power.

Pics of the lights.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ywNBpyvw0bw/UBXthutu4qI/AAAAAAAAD7I/EHPPagQQWe0/s800/IMAGE_EC1EE9B5-577B-4EB7-B6A7-3A4DD3AB4EE6.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-17mKTiYpIu0/UBXtkFCw-2I/AAAAAAAAD7Q/8wfw3FTgNvw/s800/IMAGE_A72F6483-63D9-4BC7-B20D-9A4A79AFE72F.JPG)

I have the front turn ones in LED too but have not got them on yet.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 19, 2012, 08:57:44 PM
Updated interior shots along with shots of the new LED black out lights

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z5GIPwWXtB0/UDGm-8Xg45I/AAAAAAAAD8w/epWFeIY8ecc/s912/CJM_0221s.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IQQS6iEA5Xw/UDGm_BNNNEI/AAAAAAAAD84/Rll6RbCHTMk/s912/CJM_0226s.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EFkIcndMscc/UDGm_sotk0I/AAAAAAAAD9A/xMS36VW9Dbg/s720/CJM_0303s.jpg)

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on August 19, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
totally cool... i'm jealous..
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 20, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
New blinker switch came in. Seems that my original one was out of blinker fluid.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JfH2gEwQSXo/UDJ-u2HE5RI/AAAAAAAAD9k/QIlw84ikzvE/s912/IMAGE_60F75069-55AF-48CC-A849-4F9A38CD705E.JPG)

Old and new one side by side
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-er5Js84ECk0/UDJ-9gz2RCI/AAAAAAAAD9s/UXEBobz1XS8/s912/IMAGE_E49CAFF0-92D4-4496-9525-C088A600D4B3.JPG)

 Total time to replace was about 10 minutes and now all my turn signals and flashers work flawlessly. Woot.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on August 20, 2012, 12:30:13 PM
Just found this thread. Very jealous. Home boss gave the green light as soon as pay off debt, I can get one, maybe just her way to motivate me more. Great posting and progress.  All the things I wanted to do! Still have a while until I get my own, but making a project book of all the ideas I like and how people did them. Definitely a thread I will be back for reference. With a family of 6 may need more bunks, or…as bus. Torn between space and ability to go off paved roads when necessary.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on August 20, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
blinker fluid?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on August 20, 2012, 01:47:39 PM
yup cmxterra, if you're low on blinker fluid you better check your Frabastat valve before it leaks on the muffler bearings and they seize up
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on August 20, 2012, 01:50:55 PM
Oh, the new lighting looks great too. The front leds look so cool on there  8)

great job all around
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Ericnb on August 20, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
very well done
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on August 20, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
The new interior shots look great!  Really like that set up and look.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 20, 2012, 07:53:27 PM
And if all of that was not enough...

Got the 500w block heater installed.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-th3NQZbd7hI/UDLmnbVnbuI/AAAAAAAAD-I/bPn1Mj46izs/s912/IMAGE_2BB08FD9-FFA2-4301-923C-63D36F276CE6.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Wm30U_eNY0o/UDLmpkhj_UI/AAAAAAAAD-Q/7C5yGC5mR9E/s912/IMAGE_CD4EBB21-02AD-4EBF-8EF2-1127D64FBF2B.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g1woME-UygE/UDLms44ILXI/AAAAAAAAD-Y/SsMpWw-nrow/s912/IMAGE_94E80E6E-5A6E-4A8C-B5BD-B2785E94566E.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W1vvNP8YCwA/UDLmvS2F-ZI/AAAAAAAAD-g/ek_N7SSJN_0/s912/IMAGE_59CE78FD-FE9A-4D2B-BD3B-330FC817CECE.JPG)

Next on the list is to remove the 4 90w solar panels and replace them with the 2 225w solar panels.  And while up there put a nice thick coating of roof sealant.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 22, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
A pic of one of the new panels
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z8UvKhbRlEI/UDVPtlyFUPI/AAAAAAAAEAw/WydHkRndjT8/s912/IMAGE_C2871A26-9079-4432-99DF-667522FC1FDB.JPG)

These are considerably larger than the 90w 12v panels I have up there now.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on August 22, 2012, 07:42:51 PM
that looks like a lot of potential power!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on August 23, 2012, 08:39:41 AM
What are the dimensions of those panels?  Sorry, no perspective in the picture.  Looks to be about 32 x 50 or so but I'm just guessing.   ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: pokeshell on August 26, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
We live in the area, and would love to come see it. Also, it would be nice to meet like minded people. From looking at the posts, your skill set is similar to mine. Love the truck!

PokeShell
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 01, 2012, 10:07:17 PM
http://youtu.be/VeU3xGbuOxg (http://youtu.be/VeU3xGbuOxg)

Little video
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexasGirl on September 01, 2012, 10:33:18 PM
http://youtu.be/VeU3xGbuOxg (http://youtu.be/VeU3xGbuOxg)

Little video

Cool!  I've never felt "run over" before.

That's a lot of truck.

~TG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 02, 2012, 09:53:55 AM
Installed manual front lock out hubs

Stock
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VmsE_J9xnLE/UEDr_ikj6XI/AAAAAAAAEBk/DFfdgOaUZ2g/s912/IMAGE_1FF48523-ED6F-413F-A4A2-A1E5F0F0923F.JPG)

Remove the bolts holding the hub cap on
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PelKlbrSP9s/UEDsEZy4KHI/AAAAAAAAEB0/Wp4V8MFBMRA/s912/IMAGE_7E9A3108-2493-46C2-9A27-D762E73F7344.JPG)

Hub cap removed
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UlIOZnMJQ34/UEDsI33_QEI/AAAAAAAAECA/cjYiNnya6ms/s912/IMAGE_227C77D1-5B30-4551-B284-4A5E732E8DFC.JPG)

Main lock out assembly
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Vpi2Bbe7eLo/UEDsPGHltKI/AAAAAAAAECQ/7ilTRbMEyuc/s912/IMAGE_4A93D1A7-9895-4D94-AC10-C4474F8AEA45.JPG)

Happy new lock out hub
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OPEqFO8nA0c/UEDsRX6MkJI/AAAAAAAAECY/y5SbL8gGF_Y/s912/IMAGE_7D9FBEEF-E543-45CC-A03B-E32DFF13CA82.JPG)

Advantages are less rotational mass up front when not in all wheel drive which should equal slightly better gas mileage. It also makes it MUCH easier to turn the wheel at slower speeds.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on September 02, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
I did not know you could do that.. wow.... good to know.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Greekman on September 02, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
good job! brought abck military service memories too.

I would like to coomment on 2 things

Regarding the spare tire....should you have it in the trailer? what if you ditch it or leave it at a campsite to run errants?
How about putting the spare on the cabin roof?

I was dissapointed when you repalced the headlights with the LED ones.
unless the LEDs in them are high CRiI (high collor rendition) ones... you will be missing alot of color rendition, depth recognition and driving in fog will be harder too. It is all about the high color temp of the LEDs (starting from 5500K and going up)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 02, 2012, 12:44:32 PM
good job! brought abck military service memories too.

I would like to coomment on 2 things

Regarding the spare tire....should you have it in the trailer? what if you ditch it or leave it at a campsite to run errants?
How about putting the spare on the cabin roof?

I was dissapointed when you repalced the headlights with the LED ones.
unless the LEDs in them are high CRiI (high collor rendition) ones... you will be missing alot of color rendition, depth recognition and driving in fog will be harder too. It is all about the high color temp of the LEDs (starting from 5500K and going up)

The spare tires are anything but light. putting them on the cab roof is a no go. Seeing as they are dual in the back if by chance I lost a rear I could still  make it back to base. If I lost a front I would just take one off the rear.

The LED are the drop in .mil replacements that they are putting on all the new vehicles. I can see farther with them then I could the failure prone filament bulbs that it came with. I agree with the fog comment and have been looking into finding yellow filters that can fit on the aux lights.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Greekman on September 02, 2012, 04:07:18 PM
I see on the tire.....

I did not knwo that the US mil is retrofitting lights with LEDs.....
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 02, 2012, 05:55:03 PM
I see on the tire.....

I did not knwo that the US mil is retrofitting lights with LEDs.....

Much better vibration resistance and much longer service life. Combine that with multiple elements that are not prone to single point failure you have a superior product.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on September 02, 2012, 09:39:59 PM

The LED are the drop in .mil replacements that they are putting on all the new vehicles. I can see farther with them then I could the failure prone filament bulbs that it came with. I agree with the fog comment and have been looking into finding yellow filters that can fit on the aux lights.

These might fit the bill cmxterra, http://www.offroadunlimited.com/orustore/pc/brand_results.asp?idCategory=498&IDBrand=56&pcat=Off%20Road%20Lights&dcat=Lighting%20Accessories

they have 2 sizes 140mm and 170mm polycarbonate lenses for their lights, you could make a spring wire clip or holder to attach it to the lamp and pop em on when you need them


***edited to fix link***
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 03, 2012, 06:33:10 PM
Took down the 4 12v 90w panels and put the 225w 24v panel up. OOoooooo Ahhhhhh.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TT7HHZIwgzY/UEVLw4qPiyI/AAAAAAAAEEA/dd30lfZfR0Y/s912/IMAGE_563251EC-40FE-4117-8FB6-BC640F345EE0.JPG)

I will see tomorrow how fast that will get the batteries back up to snuff. If not fast enough then I am already working on how to throw the other 225w panel up there. Now that would be a major upgrade from 180w to 450w.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rpersun on September 03, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
All I can say is that I want to be like you when I grow up.  Seriously though, you have done an awesome job and are a true inspiration to a guy who could only dream of having such a cool vehicle.  Keep up the great work and keep posting those great pics. Thanks.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on September 03, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
Nice work, cmx!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 03, 2012, 08:07:58 PM
Nice work, cmx!

Thanks Nico
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Roundabouts on September 04, 2012, 05:40:58 AM
This is just so great!  What a job you are doing.  I'm in awe.  ;D :popcorn:
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: WVMan73 on September 04, 2012, 09:19:45 AM
Took down the 4 12v 90w panels and put the 225w 24v panel up. OOoooooo Ahhhhhh.

I will see tomorrow how fast that will get the batteries back up to snuff. If not fast enough then I am already working on how to throw the other 225w panel up there. Now that would be a major upgrade from 180w to 450w.

Ok, I think I missed something here. You took down 4 - 90 watt pannels and replaced them with 1 - 225 watt pannel? How will going down from 360 watts to 225 watts charge your batteries faster?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 04, 2012, 10:05:08 AM
Ok, I think I missed something here. You took down 4 - 90 watt pannels and replaced them with 1 - 225 watt pannel? How will going down from 360 watts to 225 watts charge your batteries faster?

90w panels were 12v.

So you had to series two of them together to get 24v.  When you do that the watts do not change but the voltage doubles. So with 4 panels I was only getting 180w @ 24v.

Now this one panel is 225w @ 24v.  So I gain 45w.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on September 04, 2012, 10:14:55 AM
Just curious, how many gallons per mile does it take to run that vehicle.  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 04, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
Just curious, how many gallons per mile does it take to run that vehicle.  ;)

I get between 8 - 10 MPG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on September 04, 2012, 12:08:35 PM
I get between 8 - 10 MPG
From what BSutter has told me though is that the 8-10MPG is loaded or unloaded..  So you know from the tank size that you can cover x number of miles... or idle for so long.  That is unless you use the furnace (you removed I believe) or have a leak.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 04, 2012, 12:29:14 PM
From what BSutter has told me though is that the 8-10MPG is loaded or unloaded..  So you know from the tank size that you can cover x number of miles... or idle for so long.  That is unless you use the furnace (you removed I believe) or have a leak.

I still have my van heater. But I also added the second 50 gallon tank :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: DrJohn on September 04, 2012, 01:09:10 PM
I get between 8 - 10 MPG

Maybe you need a tow behind fuel trailer?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: grizz2225 on September 04, 2012, 02:32:29 PM
Maybe you need a tow behind fuel trailer?

Hell if you can't get to your bol in 800-1000 miles, ya need a closer bol.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 05, 2012, 07:50:28 PM
As if I have not done enough.. More updates.

Got rid of the angle iron mounts for the solar panels and went to dedicated alum feet.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rpgEmf-kwao/UEfkYq88iXI/AAAAAAAAEEs/bvdvhl4qstk/s912/IMAGE_94A08394-3123-447A-9AD8-FF995C0647D6.JPG)

All four on the one panel (and another 4 on the one already up there)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UmU_aVt2pD0/UEfk19M750I/AAAAAAAAEE0/bUb4Waw2kzw/s912/IMAGE_3ED56EA3-B181-4A9A-A477-B0707B7A79DF.JPG)

Getting ready to lift it up.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IFwJq_Ttoa8/UEflat6vFsI/AAAAAAAAEE8/xI1kTJ_o7MU/s912/IMAGE_0388228D-8730-4047-A1CE-EEACF044789F.JPG)

Side by side
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ugB927NcDvc/UEfmPO_CXvI/AAAAAAAAEFI/SuHWQOsnzYI/s912/IMAGE_D8D812CD-21F3-402B-833E-263EE3918D0E.JPG)

Installed a display panel on the charge controller
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3P4gXt2po-M/UEfmpEDScEI/AAAAAAAAEFQ/TjxqCKbk14Y/s912/IMAGE_1DCC7D16-7648-404A-99EB-4D57D1FA5B84.JPG)

Also..

Got the inverter wired into the van's electrical system so now I have 110 on all the outlets and can run the interior lights.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e3MqGZosEsc/UEfv_ToTA5I/AAAAAAAAEFw/p6L10RlUZhE/s912/IMAGE_CA13AFCD-1E98-430F-A181-768A79893DEA.JPG)

Watching Fight Club and drinking a margarita
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3pFhTQQyTO4/UEfwNSPv9ZI/AAAAAAAAEF4/H3QPVuzE69s/s912/IMAGE_E58446E1-C168-44D6-BFAD-EF178EA11DD7.JPG)

Tomorrow will be the first sunny day with both panels producing. Should be a good day.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 07, 2012, 10:18:31 AM
Solar power GOOood

http://youtu.be/UJl0SYRWDqg (http://youtu.be/UJl0SYRWDqg)

After the first full day of having both panels up there I can report that even with running the fridge non stop  (and part of yesterday and today were totally cloudy) that the panels can keep the batteries at full charge.  I imagine that even if I have several days of total clouds that the panels will be able to get the batteries topped off in no time.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on September 07, 2012, 10:35:03 AM
Wow, strong work.  I continue to be impressed with how nice this is turning out.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on September 07, 2012, 10:57:19 AM
Solar power GOOood

http://youtu.be/UJl0SYRWDqg (http://youtu.be/UJl0SYRWDqg)

After the first full day of having both panels up there I can report that even with running the fridge non stop  (and part of yesterday and today were totally cloudy) that the panels can keep the batteries at full charge.  I imagine that even if I have several days of total clouds that the panels will be able to get the batteries topped off in no time.

excellent.. so once this is done,, you going on a country wide show-tsp road trip?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on September 07, 2012, 12:14:37 PM
What kind of charge controller did you go with?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 07, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
What kind of charge controller did you go with?

Nothing fancy
Xantrex C40

It will do till I can find one better that is rated for so few watts. You have any suggestions?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on September 07, 2012, 02:22:25 PM
Nah, I'm in the market myself for one.  I just bought three 275w panels this summer and have yet to put them up because I haven't saved enough pennies for the charge controller or battery bank I want.  So, I'm just gathering all the information I can along the way.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 07, 2012, 09:07:21 PM
Scored a NIB Sony rear view camera from a Best Buy that is closing in the area for 18 bucks. And it is the nice made in Japan one not the crappy made in China. Regular price of 129. It is just the camera but i can wire it into the TV and it will make an awesome camera to see who is outside the van body. Woot.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on September 07, 2012, 09:55:22 PM
Dang! What a deal!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Griz on September 07, 2012, 11:16:27 PM
You have a kick-arse vehicle!!  I was looking online and can't find anywhere that sells one.  Do you know anywhere that has these?
Thanks,
Griz
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 08, 2012, 03:28:54 PM
You have a kick-arse vehicle!!  I was looking online and can't find anywhere that sells one.  Do you know anywhere that has these?
Thanks,
Griz

The fellow I got mine from gets some in from time to time. If you are really serious I could check to see if he has any at the moment.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Griz on September 08, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
The fellow I got mine from gets some in from time to time. If you are really serious I could check to see if he has any at the moment.

I am very interested, please PM me if you get any info.  Thanks!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 08, 2012, 11:45:26 AM
recent pic of the front.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EAlHnSCk1Zk/UHMQ2UppL7I/AAAAAAAAFBE/-WTPNwOMogM/s720/IMAGE_C4CEEC6A-6E51-4189-8D24-8498529D706A.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Bradbn4 on October 08, 2012, 12:01:03 PM
Good looking photo - however; something about it makes your real truck look like a high end scale model truck.

Good work as always, esp the led headlights.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on October 08, 2012, 12:52:52 PM
that looks like a model...
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on October 08, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
that looks like a model...
Shhh! You will give away his secret.  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 08, 2012, 02:09:10 PM
I was having a bit of fun playing with some of the filters on my Iphone
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: doublehelix on October 20, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
Did you ever install battery powered smoke and CO2 alarms for the interior ??

Not seeing them in the interior pictures.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 20, 2012, 01:33:01 PM
Did you ever install battery powered smoke and CO2 alarms for the interior ??

Not seeing them in the interior pictures.

not yet.

Smoke should be easy since it is so small of a space. CO is the one I am more concerned about.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: flippydidit on October 21, 2012, 12:12:00 AM
I am very interested, please PM me if you get any info.  Thanks!

Griz,

It looks like you're in the Spokane area.  I don't know where cmxterra's supplier is, but I would doubt that you'd want to drive an M109 from the Minnesota area to Washington.

Have you tried? http://www.idahomotorpool.com/ (http://www.idahomotorpool.com/)

They may not have one in, but they get them pretty frequently, and Fruitland is considerably closer.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on October 25, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Is there any chance that this thing can drink veggie oil to help offset the fuel cost?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on October 25, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
Veggie oil, used motor oil, jet fuel. That's the beauty of this particular vehicle.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on October 25, 2012, 08:18:29 PM
Veggie oil, used motor oil, jet fuel. That's the beauty of this particular vehicle.

 + Transmission fluid, kerosene, hydraulic fluid... yes it like just about anything.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 02, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
Updates on the solar/ battery/ inverter

The truck was sitting for about a month with the fridge running 24/7 to test out the system.

Seems I ran into a little snag. The truck where it is parked, I discovered, is partially shaded by some evergreens. Oops

When I went to work on the truck some the battery bank was down to about 40%.  Took three days (two partly cloudy and one cloudy) to get the battery bank back up to 100%

So even with the crappy angle of the sun (we are at the 45th parallel) the system was able to catch back up rather quick. I'm sure it would have been quicker had the panels been pointed more toward the sun rather than just flat on the roof.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on November 03, 2012, 09:48:34 AM
Good to hear it's working even under less than idea climatic conditions.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: pokeshell on November 03, 2012, 07:02:35 PM
Griz,

It looks like you're in the Spokane area.  I don't know where cmxterra's supplier is, but I would doubt that you'd want to drive an M109 from the Minnesota area to Washington.

Have you tried? http://www.idahomotorpool.com/ (http://www.idahomotorpool.com/)

They may not have one in, but they get them pretty frequently, and Fruitland is considerably closer.

I can get it hauled for less than a grand, probably closer to $500 if time is not an issue. I have moved vehicles from Wasington to MN for as low as $200, and frm AZ to MN for $300 and back for the same.
One came on a truck that had a huge part for the space shuttle, a 65 tbird that we dropped at a farm with a loading dock. Came with as wide load and a military escort.  Just needs to be drivable. It takes me about a month to move stuff cheap around the states. I have gotten cars in 2 days, and also 30 days. But, the price is right.

PokeShell
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on November 09, 2012, 05:47:19 PM
Updates on the solar/ battery/ inverter

The truck was sitting for about a month with the fridge running 24/7 to test out the system.

Seems I ran into a little snag. The truck where it is parked, I discovered, is partially shaded by some evergreens. Oops

When I went to work on the truck some the battery bank was down to about 40%.  Took three days (two partly cloudy and one cloudy) to get the battery bank back up to 100%

So even with the crappy angle of the sun (we are at the 45th parallel) the system was able to catch back up rather quick. I'm sure it would have been quicker had the panels been pointed more toward the sun rather than just flat on the roof.
I wonder if you could implement a system which would allow you to tilt the panels.  I'm picturing a collapsible frame upon which the panels are mounted.  This frame could be tilted in either direction.  Titling it, of course, could advertise your panels on the top and you may not want to risk it for fear of theft or vandalism.  But it might be a nice feature should you find yourself in remote areas.  Don't mind my armchair, hindsight contributions.  I like your BOV.  Job Well Done.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 11, 2012, 04:21:12 PM
Got some speakers mounted inside now
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ovdkQ_wF3JQ/UKAwgPMFXOI/AAAAAAAAFEY/mtQ8ZX4trBQ/s912/IMAGE_DC75F955-39E9-4C6A-8DC7-71ADE1655ADD.JPG)

Better close up of the inverter I am using
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O7_YHQuLick/UKAwhqW2ihI/AAAAAAAAFEg/gYxw1rSYI1I/s912/IMAGE_84E3632F-F658-4A07-8371-EABFD3F3A8A9.JPG)

What the charge controller looks like at the float charge setting
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-iMl1JgfJBts/UKAwkmFZBPI/AAAAAAAAFEo/g_CWdDM9wuE/s720/IMAGE_2EBB217F-E37F-4183-9ECC-7BE47DD5582A.JPG)

Moved the shelf with the 2m/440cm radio and entertainment radio. Also hard mounted the boom box portion to the shelf using some bar stock aluminium.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rtyAz-CCfiw/UKAwmbH1ukI/AAAAAAAAFEw/13tKhvLmtpI/s912/IMAGE_9B3AC925-F747-47F0-871F-7D6870EE035B.JPG)

Close up of the ham radio (I have a single 15w 12v solar panel keeping the batteries for this radio charged)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-smqqUdUGFxw/UKAwoEcXaWI/AAAAAAAAFE4/CXx9Jc2VNxY/s912/IMAGE_704E6BFA-4031-414E-A737-B421AE1445FC.JPG)

Close up of the power panel and the controls it has on it.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t0yDNQqouVo/UKAwquslFXI/AAAAAAAAFFA/FAe0tPeeF7w/s912/IMAGE_127BB35D-8743-423B-9573-8EF725F78B20.JPG)

I am still having intermittent issues with the van heater. I am thinking it might be the fuel pick up. Gonna have to do more testing.. Blaaaa
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on November 11, 2012, 10:34:23 PM
This is the coolest doghouse I have ever seen.  You need a custom license plate that says "doghouse".  You won't mind getting in trouble with the boss once in awhile.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Beetle on November 11, 2012, 11:28:54 PM
Awesome job. Are you going to put a winch on it?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 12, 2012, 07:10:32 AM
Awesome job. Are you going to put a winch on it?

its on the list as funds permit.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Vulcan on November 13, 2012, 01:41:11 AM
I really gotta stop coming here, always leave so jealous lol!

Looking good though, glad we're getting picture updates again :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on November 15, 2012, 04:31:03 PM
could it be an amperage problem pertaining to the heater? what's the specs on it? is it tripping a C.B.?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 15, 2012, 05:20:20 PM
could it be an amperage problem pertaining to the heater? what's the specs on it? is it tripping a C.B.?

The fan is still spinning. It is acting like it is losing fuel supply.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 26, 2012, 09:05:25 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4PtHF-TLq7w/ULMEWG-ufXI/AAAAAAAAFLA/bVEsZfxvcyI/s720/IMAGE_1349174C-C990-42DA-990B-05DEFA0384CB.JPG)

any guesses?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on November 26, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
Looks like a pump, what kind of pump I have no idea.   
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 26, 2012, 09:20:01 AM
different view
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wJkxjGvRJB8/ULOWlXRJR1I/AAAAAAAAFLg/ems5cSFD8_M/s720/IMAGE_5BB5880A-B13A-47C5-8567-8F2205E6067C.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on November 26, 2012, 11:13:06 AM
My guess would be a heater of some sort.  This is an inline pump to grab a heat source (such as coolant).  The pot gets hot and you pull air through the pot for warm air.   Not sure....just a guess.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 26, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
it is a waste oil centrifuge designed to clean used motor oil (and other oils) and cleans it to fuel grade.

Time to place the empty 25 gallon barrels at the local shop to collect used motor oil for fuel. :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on November 26, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
that's pretty cool
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 26, 2012, 03:52:28 PM
that's pretty cool

I figure I can get the waste oil for about .50c a gallon (or less) and with diesel selling for over 4.00 a gallon it is quite the savings.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on November 26, 2012, 03:57:06 PM
well when you put it like that......THAT'S AWESOME! HOLY  :censored: :excited:
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on November 27, 2012, 09:19:56 AM
I figure I can get the waste oil for about .50c a gallon (or less) and with diesel selling for over 4.00 a gallon it is quite the savings.

So, that's super cool.  How many gallons of waste oil do you required to harvest a gallon of diesel fuel?  I know of a neighbor who has a sign at the end of his driveway stating that he takes used motor oil.  I always figured that he uses it for heating.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 27, 2012, 09:25:27 AM
So, that's super cool.  How many gallons of waste oil do you required to harvest a gallon of diesel fuel?  I know of a neighbor who has a sign at the end of his driveway stating that he takes used motor oil.  I always figured that he uses it for heating.

a gallon of waste oil.. makes a gallon of fuel :-)

Centrifuge just gets the crap out of the oil so as to not clog up your fuel filter.

Edit to add. It also gets the water out.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 27, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
everything mounted to a board for easy moving and to keep things from moving around (like the speed controller and power plugs)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NW5uSSLxAZY/ULTrjTmzUPI/AAAAAAAAFOU/aGhVymJUopQ/s720/IMAGE_DBB3E00F-8CD7-4FA5-8F67-B14436DBDC20.JPG)

switches for the heater and centrifuge
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LamJkTShMQ4/ULTrmguiQXI/AAAAAAAAFOc/cwCekhz91DI/s912/IMAGE_A58A7AD9-18E6-4624-AA84-D631A8D6C322.JPG)

oil pre heater as heat makes the process work better
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eZC0c3L0Emw/ULTrpoxZmjI/AAAAAAAAFOk/O1Min54aWlI/s720/IMAGE_B2F2652E-50A1-40BF-AE70-CFD33B769B31.JPG)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: flippydidit on November 27, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
I'm sure you just used that tabletop to take the picture cmxterra.  It just shocked me when I saw the grain mill in the background.  My initial thought was, "OMG is he processing waste oil on the same table he prepares food!"
 :o

Really great set up!  I'm going to try to get the same set up when I get my "Army truck".  I don't know if the 6.5 diesel I have now would run it very well.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on November 27, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
CMX - Why did you opt for a external system versus a system mounted on the truck.  Bsutter has one mounted to the frame rail of his and it works on the fly...

I'm sure there is a reason..  Pro / Con for either setup.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 27, 2012, 02:19:17 PM
CMX - Why did you opt for a external system versus a system mounted on the truck.  Bsutter has one mounted to the frame rail of his and it works on the fly...

I'm sure there is a reason..  Pro / Con for either setup.

Bills just keeps the oil in the crankcase clean. Mine processes waste oil to fuel. I don't think there is a provision to allow him to filter waste oil to use as fuel on his as there is no outside source to spin the thing up other than oil pressure so his has to stay on the truck.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on November 27, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
My only concern (possibly unfounded) of using engine oil for daily-use fuel is, the additives.  Apecifically, the ones added to make the oil resistant to burning.  I've heard (my wife is young, so it can't be  her tale), it causes a substantial amount of gunky build-up over time.  Are you concerned about this issue, CMX?

I wouldn't hesitate a second to burn it in my '91 IDI if I were short of fuel pennies, or all the way up to SHTF.  Hell, that's why I bought the truck I did!!  I use outboard 2-stroke to supplement my fuel, and add a little lubricity to the acetone-smelling crap they're peddling as diesel nowadays...
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on November 28, 2012, 06:19:48 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4PtHF-TLq7w/ULMEWG-ufXI/AAAAAAAAFLA/bVEsZfxvcyI/s720/IMAGE_1349174C-C990-42DA-990B-05DEFA0384CB.JPG)

any guesses?
early flux capacitor
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 28, 2012, 06:48:27 PM
My only concern (possibly unfounded) of using engine oil for daily-use fuel is, the additives.  Apecifically, the ones added to make the oil resistant to burning.  I've heard (my wife is young, so it can't be  her tale), it causes a substantial amount of gunky build-up over time.  Are you concerned about this issue, CMX?

I wouldn't hesitate a second to burn it in my '91 IDI if I were short of fuel pennies, or all the way up to SHTF.  Hell, that's why I bought the truck I did!!  I use outboard 2-stroke to supplement my fuel, and add a little lubricity to the acetone-smelling crap they're peddling as diesel nowadays...

Not sure where my original response to this went.. so let me see if I can fish it out of my brain again.

There are many in the Military Vehicle community that run some level of used motor oil in their trucks and have been doing so for years with no ill effects. So I am not really concerned. Especially since I do not plan to run 100% used oil.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on November 29, 2012, 08:07:54 AM
Not sure where my original response to this went.. so let me see if I can fish it out of my brain again.

There are many in the Military Vehicle community that run some level of used motor oil in their trucks and have been doing so for years with no ill effects. So I am not really concerned. Especially since I do not plan to run 100% used oil.
That is one of the things that Bill and I talked about when I was up visiting..  Thought is that straight oil is to thick - even when heated could cause 'issues'..  so cut in a percentage with diesel, gas, etc and it'll change the viscosity enough...
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on November 29, 2012, 11:11:25 AM
I see "Hello Kitty" has taken the lead as the suggested paint scheme.  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 29, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
I see "Hello Kitty" has taken the lead as the suggested paint scheme.  ;)

Wouldn't that be a sight to see in the SHTF world lol
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on November 29, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
I know....Pink=possible easy target or so crazy don't F*&^ with them. Be a hoot to see.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on November 29, 2012, 08:43:53 PM
many people would have to do a double take then reassess attacking you LOL
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 29, 2012, 09:30:28 PM
I would have to get a Hello Kitty AR to go with it.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Zc4lKqejcJc/Twj7uK3D-3I/AAAAAAAAAbI/KpkoIf8JTlo/s1600/guncontr4.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: flippydidit on November 29, 2012, 11:06:50 PM
I would have to get a Hello Kitty AR to go with it.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Zc4lKqejcJc/Twj7uK3D-3I/AAAAAAAAAbI/KpkoIf8JTlo/s1600/guncontr4.jpg)

I imagine the Hello Kitty AR-15 is comparable to many women I've known.  They're both cute and likely to ruin your day.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on November 29, 2012, 11:09:17 PM
I imagine the Hello Kitty AR-15 is comparable to many women I've known.  They're both cute and likely to ruin your day.

Complete with a similarly "interesting" grip?   :o
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: flippydidit on November 30, 2012, 01:04:54 AM
Complete with a similarly "interesting" grip?   :o

The leading cause of divorce is marriage.   :rofl:
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: inconel710 on November 30, 2012, 09:01:09 AM
Complete with a similarly "interesting" grip?   :o

It's "California Compliant".
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Texas Sawduster on December 04, 2012, 10:59:54 AM
Not sure where my original response to this went.. so let me see if I can fish it out of my brain again.

There are many in the Military Vehicle community that run some level of used motor oil in their trucks and have been doing so for years with no ill effects. So I am not really concerned. Especially since I do not plan to run 100% used oil.

Where may I ask did you get the centrifuge from?
I have on 01 F250 7.3L and am interested in getting one also.

Thanks
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 04, 2012, 11:46:46 AM
Where may I ask did you get the centrifuge from?
I have on 01 F250 7.3L and am interested in getting one also.

Thanks

There is a thread about it here:
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=39189.0
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on December 05, 2012, 10:56:50 AM
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb444/wcalla/CJM_1093.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on December 05, 2012, 11:14:28 AM
Where is the AK?

Nothing speaks "fear me" like Hello Kitty with an AK
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 05, 2012, 03:06:34 PM
Tires are getting upgraded

current pattern is on the far right. Upgrading to the pattern on the far left.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7ia_rzrLFWQ/UL_EpNvK9WI/AAAAAAAAFQc/hvjGvYa_lKE/s720/IMAGE_63D1BAFD-4207-4E54-98A2-C64A67B1E02E.JPG)

Aside from better traction these tires are a bit taller which will increase the top speed by about 5 mph to 60.

Edit to add that I am keeping them as duals in the back.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on December 06, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
Where is the AK?

Nothing speaks "fear me" like Hello Kitty with an AK
Are you kidding me?  If I know all she has is an AK, I'm good with that.  It's the LAW rocket painted like a candy cane that scares the hell out of me. ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on December 06, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
Have you heard of any problems throwing lugs on those newer style tires?   I know it was a while ago, but back in the early 90's we had tons of problems with those styles throwing lugs (Both on the HMMWV's and the Deuces and 5 Tons, we went through so many tires they switched us back to the old style and never changed back until some time after I got out.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 06, 2012, 11:52:48 AM
Have you heard of any problems throwing lugs on those newer style tires?   I know it was a while ago, but back in the early 90's we had tons of problems with those styles throwing lugs (Both on the HMMWV's and the Deuces and 5 Tons, we went through so many tires they switched us back to the old style and never changed back until some time after I got out.

These are new tires (still have the nubbies on the tread blocks) and I have not heard of any problems with these in the .mil community.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on December 06, 2012, 07:40:25 PM
We had them on the deuces and 5 tons, and didn't have issues (not to say they couldn't).  Our HMMWVs had the Wrangler ATs.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 06, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
We had them on the deuces and 5 tons, and didn't have issues (not to say they couldn't).  Our HMMWVs had the Wrangler ATs.

My 101A3 trailer has the run flat Goodyear 37" MTR's. Those are awesome tires
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on December 06, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
...these tires are a bit taller which will increase the top speed by about 5 mph to 60...
Are you/have you recalibrated the spedometer? Do these things even have a spedometer?

I mean, I would hate to be speeding and not even know it.  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 06, 2012, 08:59:19 PM
Are you/have you recalibrated the spedometer? Do these things even have a spedometer?

I mean, I would hate to be speeding and not even know it.  ;)

They do have a speedo but I worry more about the RPM's than speed in this thing. I don't think I have ever been on a road that cars were not passing me so speeding is not high on my worry list :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on December 06, 2012, 09:32:33 PM
Are you/have you recalibrated the spedometer? Do these things even have a spedometer?

I mean, I would hate to be speeding and not even know it.  ;)
they are made to go, go anywhere, with anything, but not go fast.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on December 06, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
they are made to go, go anywhere, with anything, but not go fast.

Well, he did say it would do 60 now. Here, if they bust you for speeding in a 20 mph school zone it is a $400 fine. In town, speed limits are generally 35-45 mph. That is a $200 fine.

If you are in a school zone and your spedometer reads 20, but the cop's radar says 22, you are busted.

So, as long as he stays out of active school zones and little towns like Pantego, TX (where the police spend most of their day looking for traffic violations 'cuz there's nothing else to do) he will be fine.  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on December 06, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Well, he did say it would do 60 now. Here, if they bust you for speeding in a 20 mph school zone it is a $400 fine. In town, speed limits are generally 35-45 mph. That is a $200 fine.

If you are in a school zone and your spedometer reads 20, but the cop's radar says 22, you are busted.

So, as long as he stays out of active school zones and little towns like Pantego, TX (where the police spend most of their day looking for traffic violations 'cuz there's nothing else to do) he will be fine.  ;)

No worries, it's physically impossible to not realize how fast you're going in a deuce.  If you're going 60mph, that bad boy will be absolutely SCREAMING!!   ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on December 07, 2012, 06:11:23 AM
No worries, it's physically impossible to not realize how fast you're going in a deuce.  If you're going 60mph, that bad boy will be absolutely SCREAMING!!   ;D

I managed to get an empty duece up to to about 73 once down a long slight downhill highway in Germany, talk about freakin loud LOL  Thought it was gonna come apart at the seems.   I've also had one up on 5 wheels before too.   Scary cornering job that day.  Learned a lesson about keeping her slow in the corners. 

Some day I'd love to have one of my own along with a trailer.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 07, 2012, 08:53:05 AM
Well, he did say it would do 60 now. Here, if they bust you for speeding in a 20 mph school zone it is a $400 fine. In town, speed limits are generally 35-45 mph. That is a $200 fine.

If you are in a school zone and your spedometer reads 20, but the cop's radar says 22, you are busted.

So, as long as he stays out of active school zones and little towns like Pantego, TX (where the police spend most of their day looking for traffic violations 'cuz there's nothing else to do) he will be fine.  ;)

Considering how long it takes to get up to the higher speeds I don't have any worries about breaking the speed limits on residential streets. o-60 in 15 minutes
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 07, 2012, 12:29:09 PM
I did some mods. I can get from zero to fifty in thirteen minutes fifteen seconds. Mine tops out at about fifty two.  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on December 07, 2012, 02:53:29 PM
I see that "Keep it camo" has now pulled even with "Hello Kitty."
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: soupbone on December 07, 2012, 07:17:30 PM
I did some mods. I can get from zero to fifty in thirteen minutes fifteen seconds. Mine tops out at about fifty two.  ;)

WITH a tailwind, right?

soup
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 07, 2012, 07:25:01 PM
I should have qualified my boast. That is with a tailwind and headed down hill.
I love this truck.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on December 08, 2012, 08:37:49 PM
Quote
I managed to get an empty duece up to to about 73 once down a long slight downhill highway in Germany.....

73kph, right?   ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: welshman on December 09, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
go ahead and paint a bulleye on the back and get it over with not exactly a low profile vehicle, get out unnoticed, good luck, to big of an attention drawer, first to be searched at a road block,I don't understand the concept behind this kind of BOV. But then again I don't plan on fighting my way out of the city  . In a vehicle like that chances are you will, Not exactlly a polar bear in a snow storm , SO WHY this makes no sense
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on December 10, 2012, 06:02:20 AM
I would guess that most folks here don't plan to fight their way out of anywhere unless it's absolutely the last option left and most hope to Bug Out before there is the potential of being locked down in an area they have little hope of escaping.

Regarding a roadblock set up in such a situation,  I would think that every vehicle is more than likely going to be searched with the exception of perhaps unicycle, and then don't expect to get waved through with a backpack.

I would estimate that the number of situations where a truck like this would be useful far outnumber the ones in which it might be a detriment.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on December 10, 2012, 06:22:25 AM
I would tend to agree with Nico,  Preppers tend to be a bit more aware of the current situation and would most likely bug out long before things reached that point.  (Things don't generally just instantly develop into a lock-down police state).  And the most likely scenarios that would require bugging out are weather and natural disasters in which case this would be an ideal vehicle to make the move with. 

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 10, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/044/778/hatersgonnacat.jpg?1318992465)

Like stated above. If you wait till everything is locked down then no matter what you are driving you are going to get the stink eye from anyone you pass.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on December 10, 2012, 10:05:13 AM
...
Like stated above. If you wait till everything is locked down then no matter what you are driving you are going to get the stink eye from anyone you pass.
Like you're going to pass anyone. :rofl:

I see a lot of situations where an RV-style exodus is ideal.  The flexibility of having a primary BOL, but due to unforeseen circumstances (like a road closure due to a severe snow storm, etc.) you have the ability to go in any direction and still have everything you need to be self-supported.  A cabin in the woods can get vandalized and a homestead can be in the line of fire from a hurricane.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: ag2 on December 14, 2012, 09:36:32 AM
Quote
Like you're going to pass anyone. :rofl:

Sure he is.  Didn't you see the Knight Rider turbo boost button he installed? ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 19, 2012, 09:56:32 AM
Tires are on.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VNzqPdQN0w8/UNHwXN8QYxI/AAAAAAAAFSA/QwcPR0yeZjc/s1024/CJM_0595s.jpg)

You can see how taller they are here.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0l4jkJWYMCg/UNHwXBhon8I/AAAAAAAAFSE/AUyPqzZQA5Q/s1024/CJM_0588s.jpg)

Getting there
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xvXnZDYD1Tg/UNHwXF8Xi4I/AAAAAAAAFR8/6Z2DWEsF_6w/s1200/CJM_0594s.jpg)

Again you can see the height difference
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-98A2dA57TWY/UNHwYF_BSqI/AAAAAAAAFSU/CavvRc6PHKk/s1024/CJM_0603s.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BZhkBHGiZqQ/UNHwYeHfqmI/AAAAAAAAFSY/kglErWy7OMU/s1024/CJM_0615s.jpg)

Last set of duals about to go on
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x2OjVFmuYzg/UNHwYhZMTMI/AAAAAAAAFSc/_qd6deZqLGY/s1024/CJM_0621s.jpg)

Happy truck with new shoes
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AdlwuxX1oLg/UNHwZGL350I/AAAAAAAAFSo/fi6aF3okcwg/s1024/CJM_0629s.jpg)

Driving on radials rather than bias tires feels way different. Turning at slow speeds is about the same but these tires do not whip the steering wheel around when you let go of it. And of course my top speed is now almost 60 MPH. Now I just need a good snow to really get a feel for how much better the traction will be.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 19, 2012, 06:04:05 PM
go ahead and paint a bulleye on the back and get it over with not exactly a low profile vehicle, get out unnoticed, good luck, to big of an attention drawer, first to be searched at a road block,I don't understand the concept behind this kind of BOV. But then again I don't plan on fighting my way out of the city  . In a vehicle like that chances are you will, Not exactlly a polar bear in a snow storm , SO WHY this makes no sense

I agree with this opinion so much that yesterday I purchased an M109A3. I currently have an M185A3 and am M150A3 trailer. This makes (2) trucks and a trailer in my stable in addition to cars, If I need low profile I have the cars. I prefer Green Iron.

No thread hijack intended, just an update about little old me.

Bill
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 19, 2012, 06:08:03 PM
I made an error, my trailer is an M105A3 not an M150A3. Perhaps one day I will become a better proofreader.

Bill
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on December 19, 2012, 06:26:26 PM
dyslexia is the friend that just keeps coming back even after they're not wanted anymore
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 19, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
 :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on December 20, 2012, 06:27:55 AM
I agree with this opinion so much that yesterday I purchased an M109A3. I currently have an M185A3 and am M150A3 trailer. This makes (2) trucks and a trailer in my stable in addition to cars, If I need low profile I have the cars. I prefer Green Iron.

No thread hijack intended, just an update about little old me.

Bill

Bill, you're a madman!

Can I visit and drive one?  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 20, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
Sure you may, matter of fact you may accompany me to the Spring Rally in Indiana. You drive one, I will drive the other.  :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on December 20, 2012, 09:45:11 AM
Do tell about the Spring Rally. I am here in Indiana and home boss (wife) did say I can have one. There were lots of conditions and stipulations (I somewhat listened) but I can have one. would be nice to go and see all the possibilities.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on December 20, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
The Rally is held at Haspin Acres in Laurel Indiana, June 13 to 16.

http://www.haspinacres.com/
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 23, 2012, 06:37:33 PM
The Rally is held at Haspin Acres in Laurel Indiana, June 13 to 16.

http://www.haspinacres.com/

That would be a fun one to go to. Might have to save up enough reclaimed fuel to make it there :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Nicodemus on December 23, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Sure you may, matter of fact you may accompany me to the Spring Rally in Indiana. You drive one, I will drive the other.  :)

Oh man...  :o ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 10, 2013, 10:43:50 AM
For people coming over from ZS wondering why I nuked all the pics and info from the message board over there, here is the reason.

Politics are part of prepping as they affect all of us. To not allow us to discuss how the current administration is fucking us over is a dis-service to the prepper community.

FBO = Fk Barack Obama

Anyway. I have processed about 35 gallons of used motor oil and hope to be picking up another hundred gallons to add to my fuel storage.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on January 10, 2013, 11:31:15 AM
we still love ya

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: flippydidit on January 10, 2013, 11:52:09 AM
Might have to save up enough reclaimed fuel to make it there :)

Should probably save up enough to get back too.   ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on January 10, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
Should probably save up enough to get back too.   ;)
Yeah, it's the little things that are so often overlooked.  :o
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on January 10, 2013, 01:21:56 PM
Since the rally is here in Indiana, you could just leave it with me if not enough fuel to return....Will pay to fly you back.... ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on January 11, 2013, 08:45:37 AM
Since the rally is here in Indiana, you could just leave it with me if not enough fuel to return....Will pay to fly you back.... ;D

I'm sure you would :P

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Jaenus on February 10, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
Sweet.  Lucky dog.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on April 02, 2013, 05:06:50 PM
cmexterra, I have a pdf copy of the Tactical Convoy Handbook from FORT EUSTIS  Transpo School. You'd enjoy reading it.If you want a copy PM me and I'll send it

That goes for any other member too just let me know
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 05, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
cmexterra, I have a pdf copy of the Tactical Convoy Handbook from FORT EUSTIS  Transpo School. You'd enjoy reading it.If you want a copy PM me and I'll send it

That goes for any other member too just let me know

PM sent. Thanks!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 18, 2013, 10:04:54 PM
Little truck. BIG TRUCK

Yes it is still snowing here in MN.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UCClGnFbUHk/UXDCCIzkZJI/AAAAAAAAFl0/zle26MED7ok/s1024/CJM_0234s.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bigjim71 on April 19, 2013, 12:31:36 AM
Just want to say sooooooooo very jelouse ....  :P
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 21, 2013, 09:15:07 AM
And another snow pic. I am really hoping this is the last one for a while.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CQzMYjT8WMc/UXIC-GrmTPI/AAAAAAAAFmc/Pp-1CfDPkfo/s1024/CJM_0229s.jpg)

At this point I am in the process of stocking it with food and other goods so there is less time needed to get it rolling. Planning several camping trips this summer with it to work out any bugs I might find and to see what supplies I need to put in it to make it more "complete"

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on April 23, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
THAT is a beautiful sight!!     Badd ass squared!!!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on April 24, 2013, 11:05:13 AM
Damn it!!!  Now I'm going to have to get one!!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 18, 2013, 05:20:07 PM
Changed the oil today. Installed the rear camera..

Pics to follow.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Cedar on June 18, 2013, 11:35:33 PM
I was actually thinking about your rig yesterday. I missed the snow pics before.. have you gone camping in it yet?

Cedar
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 19, 2013, 10:25:11 AM
So here we go.

5.5 gallons of oil. Two filters and the bonus is I can filter the oil and use it as fuel.

draining it to the 35 gallon bucket
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WqY9AF8RqcY/UcHaU0j0kxI/AAAAAAAAFs0/7YVQwHSYPMQ/s912/IMAGE_1627C93D-57E6-4F97-BC42-AFD10D3296EC.JPG)

one filter off and getting ready to refill with new oil
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6Y5fUmVGVbY/UcHaWkdwwkI/AAAAAAAAFs8/Bzo3mklQJo8/s720/IMAGE_2259733F-BF19-4EED-8497-17E1A1CAE64D.JPG)

Might have to come up with a better way of getting the oil in there as lifting a 5 gallon bucket and not spilling (even with a funnel) is challenging
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VWEu79q9NaA/UcHaYsyl36I/AAAAAAAAFtE/5mnHR0L3Fho/s912/IMAGE_33ADCABB-1FA9-46E2-A517-7DABD21D5F8E.JPG)

oil is in and about to put on the second oil filter
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--OlBBts4udA/UcHaaaEF_fI/AAAAAAAAFtM/5tj0BxwecAo/s912/IMAGE_DAE28052-A0D5-4622-9C22-C46BF8865AD2.JPG)

Got everything buttoned up and she runs great.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 19, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Drilled the hole on the exhaust fan. It was the easiest place to mount the camera with the least number of problems.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QX2eeLo1h_8/UcHaNo_unzI/AAAAAAAAFsU/h9gLXpLgrPE/s912/IMAGE_89E9280A-1F6B-4686-A2E3-98E7B91233C1.JPG)

Hole on the inside for the cable to pass.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3tINCRoPrdY/UcHaPJj1HqI/AAAAAAAAFsc/40JlCFPl28U/s912/IMAGE_3EC39306-AD48-43B3-8055-744CB4023836.JPG)

Got the camera installed. I used rivets to attach the mount. Not shown is the hole sealed up.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-z3r5FNWIdQY/UcHaQjBMPAI/AAAAAAAAFsk/uoIRl-Xr_zY/s912/IMAGE_8E57C200-A259-4A48-A623-97C78236889E.JPG)

Monitor on the inside of the van. I need to get a splitter so I can also use it in the cab. That and I have to get 12v up there.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QwA9ksKm5Vg/UcHaSJg7O8I/AAAAAAAAFss/-kLkZcRN4h0/s912/IMAGE_08CF7032-D29C-44EB-993F-A42E6248B7F5.JPG)

Right now the wiring is a bit of a mess and I have yet to wire in a switch to activate it. So for now I have to manually connect the system to one of the 12v batteries I keep back there.

Good field of view and should work for both backing up and for seeing who might be around the back while camping.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on June 19, 2013, 11:51:54 AM
Basco makes a pailspout extender that should make things easier for you cmxterra  http://www.bascousa.com/container-tools-and-supplies/measures-scoops-funnels/funnels/pail-spout-extender/?items_per_page=10

great job and pics as always ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 19, 2013, 12:57:18 PM
Basco makes a pailspout extender that should make things easier for you cmxterra  http://www.bascousa.com/container-tools-and-supplies/measures-scoops-funnels/funnels/pail-spout-extender/?items_per_page=10

great job and pics as always ;)

thanks for the info.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexasGirl on June 21, 2013, 07:49:26 PM
Hey, if you guys drive that monster down south sometime, I'd love to see it in living color. 

Just give me a hollar.

~TG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 21, 2013, 07:56:54 PM
Hey, if you guys drive that monster down south sometime, I'd love to see it in living color. 

Just give me a hollar.

~TG

If all goes well.. It will be relocated along with us out to East Texas. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on June 21, 2013, 11:06:31 PM
 :popcorn: figured it was time i tagged this thread for updates.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 22, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
a couple glamor shots from today.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qA1geAxEIC8/UcZKwWfS-KI/AAAAAAAAFto/qDJSBofxLyk/s1024/CJM_1647.jpg)

Not me in the photos. Some people who wanted to pose with it.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F3u55wQDcXs/UcZK0-HnsCI/AAAAAAAAFt8/bOVt8pFzguo/s1000/CJM_1661.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--GZ0phGaZCg/UcZKyaFWkTI/AAAAAAAAFtw/xx9uGLmKy-k/s1024/CJM_1643.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Morning Sunshine on June 22, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
CMX - the truck is nice, but MAN!  again your scenery photography takes my breath away.  I love that blue and green. 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on June 22, 2013, 09:34:10 PM
just wait until he can really capture the contrast with the hello kitty pink popping against the bright blue sky...
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TexDaddy on June 23, 2013, 11:29:17 AM
just wait until he can really capture the contrast with the hello kitty pink popping against the bright blue sky...
Yeah, I am still waiting for the Hello Kitty paint job. (Which is still leading the poll, btw.)  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 24, 2013, 09:35:12 PM
Got a new addition for it today.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RGtJ9A-iGg8/UcjqP1yZcaI/AAAAAAAAFu8/PpcnNxxMZdQ/s912/IMAGE_5A76D1C8-1659-490E-A0D2-34BDC4967633.JPG)

Towbar. Works for either the 2.5 or 5 ton trucks.  Might be worth my while to see what would be needed to get it modded so I can hook up a civvy car or truck to the back of the M109.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on June 24, 2013, 09:59:57 PM
Got a new addition for it today.

Might be worth my while to see what would be needed to get it modded so I can hook up a civvy car or truck to the back of the M109.

or bad guys who need... 'motivation' to be nice  ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on June 25, 2013, 06:25:32 AM
I'm curious how your getting the skewed perspective in the pictures, is it lens work or is that post editing?   Your pics are just freakin amazing.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on June 25, 2013, 07:40:36 AM
I'm curious how your getting the skewed perspective in the pictures, is it lens work or is that post editing?   Your pics are just freakin amazing.


maybe a fish eye lens? i think those give that wide angle view.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 25, 2013, 08:16:40 AM
maybe a fish eye lens? i think those give that wide angle view.

Those last images were shot using a 14mm 2.8 lens and I am close to the truck.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Erigorn on June 25, 2013, 01:34:08 PM
WOW! Awesome! My project to turn an enclosed trailer into a camping/bug out trailer just got ran over by your truck. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on June 27, 2013, 02:07:22 PM
CMX,

When I get home I will send you the TM for that tow bar medium. It is (71) pages.
Provided my i'net connection is fixed. One of my trees lost a branch and took out power and the net.
Life goes on.

Bill
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 27, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
CMX,

When I get home I will send you the TM for that tow bar medium. It is (71) pages.
Provided my i'net connection is fixed. One of my trees lost a branch and took out power and the net.
Life goes on.

Bill

Thanks for the PDF Bill
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on June 27, 2013, 07:34:58 PM
You are most welcome. Those of us unfortunate enough to be afflicted with "Green Iron Fever" need to support each other.
We are the only support group in sight, there is no cure for the "Fever". One truck leads to more. I speak with the voice of experience regarding this addiction.  8)

Cause no harm, help where you can.

Bill
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 05, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jXig2eV9CG0/UdeJqXtUHQI/AAAAAAAAF1U/dx18TLixL3k/s1024/CJM_1992_3_4_tonemapped.jpg)

shot before heading to the first parade on the 4th.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 06, 2013, 05:13:31 PM
nice! you take some awesome pics! very impressive quality.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 08, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
nice! you take some awesome pics! very impressive quality.

Thanks
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 08, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
Here is a different angle and in color

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kygdkn6UdII/Udr8VUF-kjI/AAAAAAAAF2E/xJVi5DsklnU/s1280/CJM_1980_1_2_.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 08, 2013, 01:46:06 PM
do you have a super amazing camera or do you do a lot of post production stuff? photoshop, etc...?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 08, 2013, 02:01:46 PM
do you have a super amazing camera or do you do a lot of post production stuff? photoshop, etc...?

Both

Camera is a Nikon D700
The lens for those two images is the awesome made from magic Nikon 14-24 2.8

Post production depends on how I shot the images. The two above are a combination of 3 different frames shot at different exposures to capture the light range (commonly called HDR photography)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 08, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
i love the tires in the last once. they look unreal.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Bradbn4 on July 10, 2013, 08:00:17 PM
Here is a different angle and in color


Interesting effects, that picture looks like it was from a manufacture of puzzles...or one of those desktop backgrounds that come with the OS . . that make the photo look more real than real life.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on July 10, 2013, 08:20:17 PM
CMX, is the beast still running strong on straight UMO?  I think I may have a consistent source for my '91 7.3IDI, and may give it a whirl.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 10, 2013, 09:49:15 PM
CMX, is the beast still running strong on straight UMO?  I think I may have a consistent source for my '91 7.3IDI, and may give it a whirl.

I don't run strait used oil. I use a mixture of diesel, used motor oil and whatever half empty can of ATF or whatever I find in the garage.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 10, 2013, 10:48:53 PM
cmx, while i don't think you care, i'll ask anyways.

i'm really wanting to steal that last pic of yours and use it for my desktop, i can't stop ogling it with my eyes... that cool with you?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Erigorn on July 11, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
I keep coming to look at it too. It looks awesome. I have BOV envy.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 11, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
cmx, while i don't think you care, i'll ask anyways.

i'm really wanting to steal that last pic of yours and use it for my desktop, i can't stop ogling it with my eyes... that cool with you?

No problem
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: rikkrack on July 12, 2013, 07:24:22 AM
I have BOV envy too. I was told when we get property I get to have one. Happening next spring!! Yeah me. After listening to the BOV podcast a while back the two guys made me stop and think. How available are parts? how easy is it to find parts if I really needed them? I have a buddy who has like 4 deuce's, we actually nicknamed him deuce, but two of them are mainly parts trucks, and two were running trucks. He bought the parts trucks because it was the easiest way to get extra parts.

A family member loves to tinker with cars and trucks, and wife said I could build my own BOV with his help, if I wanted, however I wanted. so now I am torn. She has no idea what I have come up with in my head. Part tractor, part truck,  part RV.

CMX how hard is it to find parts for your BOV? How hard would it be if there was no access to internet or shipping?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 12, 2013, 08:06:19 AM
i just wanted to point out that hello kitty has pulled ahead by five :D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: idelphic on July 12, 2013, 08:16:50 AM
I have BOV envy too. I was told when we get property I get to have one. Happening next spring!! Yeah me. After listening to the BOV podcast a while back the two guys made me stop and think. How available are parts? how easy is it to find parts if I really needed them? I have a buddy who has like 4 deuce's, we actually nicknamed him deuce, but two of them are mainly parts trucks, and two were running trucks. He bought the parts trucks because it was the easiest way to get extra parts.

A family member loves to tinker with cars and trucks, and wife said I could build my own BOV with his help, if I wanted, however I wanted. so now I am torn. She has no idea what I have come up with in my head. Part tractor, part truck,  part RV.

CMX how hard is it to find parts for your BOV? How hard would it be if there was no access to internet or shipping?
Part Tractor, truck, RV ?  I'm interested in what you come up with..  could be a interesting and fun build.

As for my thoughts on getting parts post internet and shipping?  Good luck.  I would think that damn near anything and most likely everything will be difficult to get much less find post internet and you can almost forget shipping.

I would think that the best options is to get it before you need it.  Or you'll have to do without.  I could however be wrong.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 12, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
I have access to two sources locally for bigger parts (injector pump, compressor. engine if I REALLY need it etc) and other parts like filters I can get at NAPA. That said I do have on hand a few parts that I just keep on hand. I have a spare alternator and voltage regulator.

All in all there are not many parts on these trucks that could fail to leave you stuck.

There are two fuel pumps. An electrical and and mechanical. Once running there are not any real need for any sort of electrical part (and you can roll start them)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 12, 2013, 09:10:43 AM
I have access to two sources locally for bigger parts (injector pump, compressor. engine if I REALLY need it etc) and other parts like filters I can get at NAPA. That said I do have on hand a few parts that I just keep on hand. I have a spare alternator and voltage regulator.

All in all there are not many parts on these trucks that could fail to leave you stuck.

There are two fuel pumps. An electrical and and mechanical. Once running there are not any real need for any sort of electrical part (and you can roll start them)

you are now obligated to post a video of you roll starting you rig  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on July 12, 2013, 02:46:38 PM
you are now obligated to post a video of you roll starting you rig  ;D

i was going to say, how the hell do you roll start something that big? park it on a mountain side facing down?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on July 12, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
6 grunts pushing while the CO starts it?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 12, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
you are now obligated to post a video of you roll starting you rig  ;D

I did that on the 4th of July because I wanted to be quiet leaving the house. Rolled half way down the street and just put it in 2nd and slipped the clutch. Nice and sort of quiet
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on July 12, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
you must live on a pretty good grade. oh, and that pic looks awesome as my desktop background. thought i'd let you know.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 13, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
you must live on a pretty good grade. oh, and that pic looks awesome as my desktop background. thought i'd let you know.

I don't need much grade when I start in in low range and first gear
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 26, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
Well she did not leave me on the side of the road.

Drove over 768 miles doing a rally this past weekend. On the way home about 3 hours from home I started hearing a chattering noise when I coasted in 5th gear. (now I bet it was making noise under throttle too but I just could not hear it)

Today got out there to look into the transmission (about 15 minutes to get eyes on it) found this.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3KI5DDCZfPU/UhtxBjZUKWI/AAAAAAAAHhk/BMsOA_JzFuU/s912/IMAGE_105.jpeg)

Yup.. Red Neck transmission. Missing some teeth.

I am going to swap in a "new" one and rebuild this one so that I have a spare.

Good Good truck for getting me home with that much missing on the gear.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Cedar on August 26, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
Ouch. Good truck.

Cedar
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on August 26, 2013, 01:35:08 PM
if it's not too much trouble i'd love to see pics of the repair/replacement process.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bsutter on August 26, 2013, 01:50:38 PM
Sorry to hear about the transmission trouble. At least she got you home safe.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 26, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
Sorry to hear about the transmission trouble. At least she got you home safe.

That she did. And a testament to how robust the transmission is to still function with that much damage to a gear ring.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 26, 2013, 01:53:51 PM
if it's not too much trouble i'd love to see pics of the repair/replacement process.

I'll see what I can do. :)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on August 26, 2013, 03:37:49 PM
I'll see what I can do. :)

i can make your life/my request easy... i only was asking for plain jane point and shoot pics, you don't need to pull out your pocket hubble telescope and shoot the same shot five different times using eight different light filters in order to catch the infrared sun rays at the apex of their celestial journey to the solar panels no the roof of your BOV... just saying ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on August 26, 2013, 03:47:03 PM
i can make your life/my request easy... i only was asking for plain jane point and shoot pics, you don't need to pull out your pocket hubble telescope and shoot the same shot five different times using eight different light filters in order to catch the infrared sun rays at the apex of their celestial journey to the solar panels no the roof of your BOV... just saying ;)

Point & shoot?  Not sure he knows how to do that!  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 26, 2013, 06:11:26 PM
Well I picked up the replacement transmission. 

Tomorrow the work begins.

And I will use my Iphone to take the pics. As close to point and shoot as I can get :P
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 26, 2013, 07:32:26 PM
replacement transmission.

Gonna clean her up a little.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k20dgocmv2U/UhwBWnww99I/AAAAAAAAHjM/YnLCjI9uz6U/s912/IMAGE_106.jpeg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on August 26, 2013, 11:21:10 PM
replacement transmission.

Gonna clean her up a little.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k20dgocmv2U/UhwBWnww99I/AAAAAAAAHjM/YnLCjI9uz6U/s912/IMAGE_106.jpeg)

is that soda bottle mil spec?
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on August 27, 2013, 12:09:27 AM
is that soda bottle mil spec?

It's the E-2 special!! 
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: inconel710 on August 27, 2013, 08:52:49 PM
I know the modern Army runs on Mountain Dew, Red Bull, and Rip Its, but that's ridiculous.  A coffee cup would more appropriate.  ;D
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 27, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
day one.

Looking up through the floor with the rear output shaft removed.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xWs5WmaZRKc/Uh1vmcurn1I/AAAAAAAAHmg/r0KcnmvC7Wk/s720/IMAGE_107.jpeg)

place on the T-case where the front drive shaft used to be attached.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l7u6XsYYqBU/Uh1voh6CKMI/AAAAAAAAHmo/aAYIYeG-EmQ/s912/IMAGE_108.jpeg)

wider shot showing the transmission attached to the engine
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZzHJbjYjnGw/Uh1vqkuSPjI/AAAAAAAAHmw/RCs82NcUo8w/s720/IMAGE_109.jpeg)

front drive shaft (yes there is lots of room under this thing to work)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Aq7Oz_83q6o/Uh1vshjMhNI/AAAAAAAAHm4/cMIWovuc-L4/s912/IMAGE_110.jpeg)

top of the transmission with the floor access panel removed
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U10An7fOfbg/Uh1vuhTgtxI/AAAAAAAAHnA/5gLwCkcO4tM/s912/IMAGE_111.jpeg)

other access panel removed
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-izK3aew5PfA/Uh1vws3Q03I/AAAAAAAAHnI/f5ciAwix1fk/s912/IMAGE_112.jpeg)

table jack that will eventually hold the transmission
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5_cZppWZqMA/Uh1vyZgGgVI/AAAAAAAAHnQ/rXIujT5bkAE/s912/IMAGE_113.jpeg)

First mistake. Trying to take the adaptor plate with the transmission.  Ended up removing the plate and keeping it on the bell housing.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CqXA3rbNF0Y/Uh1v0clY14I/AAAAAAAAHnY/09Cff8I_nS4/s912/IMAGE_114.jpeg)

Poof.. transmission out
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IE8FW4TDZpo/Uh1v26rcksI/AAAAAAAAHng/6o9LaeWYJ1M/s912/IMAGE_115.jpeg)

I did a couple other things like transfer the clutch linkage from the old transmission to the new one and filled the new one with fresh oil.
And that ends the excitement for day one.  Will have to wait till Thursday for the swap. I have a photoshoot tomorrow and after that going to see Grumpy Cat at the internet film festival at the MN state fair.

>^,,^<  meow
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on August 27, 2013, 10:23:30 PM
New clutch disk while you have it out?   ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 27, 2013, 10:28:50 PM
New clutch disk while you have it out?   ;)

I'm going to look at it. Clutch can't be that old and is still pulling strong.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on August 27, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
thanks for the pics!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on August 30, 2013, 08:45:32 AM
Looked at the clutch and it looked fine.

built a cradle to help position the transmission
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--G-Idj8SktY/Uh_6v0t2LLI/AAAAAAAAHtg/nNAHnRYrwuY/s912/IMAGE_116.jpeg)

Friend came over with his Deuce to help and to give mine company
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SBju1M_f06Q/Uh_68fAYkMI/AAAAAAAAHto/8jXD9PZJYyo/s912/IMAGE_117.jpeg)

new transmission in position and ready to put on the lift
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nBwdCb8VWoI/Uh_7fPrdO_I/AAAAAAAAHt4/PAdUSydB0WI/s640/IMAGE_119.jpeg)

almost in
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-duIrBzikqCE/Uh_7tDuU1_I/AAAAAAAAHuA/_5hkqu48SnI/s912/IMAGE_120.jpeg)

nice big splines helped in getting the shaft in
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tsllw3Z93nk/Uh_72bvyATI/AAAAAAAAHuI/wEVxEqSSolg/s912/IMAGE_121.jpeg)

putting her all back together
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hP3QSGTAc9I/Uh_8FDlo5yI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/3V5ZLIa__qU/s912/IMAGE_122.jpeg)

It was getting dark so I just did a quick test to see if I needed to adjust the clutch. Started her up and she went right into first with no grinding. Drove her around the block this morning and I am calling this repair DONE.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on August 30, 2013, 09:18:18 AM
nice. that beats my filler neck tube replacement on my truck...

and again, thanks for the pics! i'm starting to take care of all of my vehicle maintenance and seeing stuff like this is a huge motivator. i don't mean this to sound negative, but if you can replace a transmission on a truck that big, i can fix stuff on my little truck. it's all a big set of legos.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Zef_66 on August 30, 2013, 12:03:38 PM
Good work man! Thanks for sharing. I love seeing this stuff.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: PoppinZombies on April 07, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
Hey Guys and Gals , this is my first post on your site. I found this site , and joined specifically for this perticular thread. I'm considering picking up an M109A3/A4 in the next month or so. This thread pretty much covers exactly what I'd like to do with mine. But ,it seems like the thread has ended ! Was the truck completed ? Did it get sold ? Or did the initial poster just disappear ? What gives ? Thanks ! Also , besides the Govt. auctions , does anyone know a good place to pick up a clean-ish M109A3 or 4 in FL. ? I can't seem to find anything on Craig'slist. I like the ones on C&C equipment. But , they're a little pricey. Idaho Motor poole's trucks look OK. Anyone have any other sites I should check out ? Thanks again.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on April 08, 2014, 09:11:15 AM
cmxterra is still alive and kicking, but now he's moved onto this new project right here: http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=45427.0
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on April 08, 2014, 10:08:04 AM
I still have her and the build is NEVER done.

In fact now that spring is finally here I am planning on getting her back to the house to do some more work. Replace the J pipe. New starting batteries... it never ends :)

The 109A3's are getting very scarce. I have not seen one on GL in forever and even the ones on Craigslist are few and far between.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: TiredOldGrunt on April 08, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Radio truck is the way to go, 99% of the hard work has been done.

TOG
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: PoppinZombies on April 08, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Hey guys. Glad to hear you're still at it cm ! If I decide to do the whole prepper RV , than I'll go with an M109. Otherwise , I might just get a bobbed M35A2 or 3. I plan on getting a toyhauler trailer anyway. I could always just sleep in that and just have the " pickup " for fun. Havn't decided yet.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on May 26, 2014, 11:34:45 PM
Not much to update.

I do have her at the house so I can do some cleaning and a few upgrades/ fixes.
Putting on new windshield wipers and working on some general maintainence

Aerial video ( I will be doing a better one )
http://youtu.be/0itWQAl4Frs

Pic (from the drone)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FJhgdGJIppY/U4QjfEKw-VI/AAAAAAAANOA/aCII_1aq1nI/s1280/G0022686.jpg)

http://youtu.be/0itWQAl4Frs
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: theBINKYhunter on May 27, 2014, 08:17:44 AM
loving the sandals
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Docwatmo on May 27, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
That drone camera is Awesome!  It's sooooo steady.  Glad to see this project is still moving forward!

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: endurance on June 03, 2014, 02:50:51 PM
Nice cross-pollination of interests there. ;)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on June 07, 2014, 06:46:08 AM
Nice cross-pollination of interests there. ;)

Yup.. they go well together. Base camp and a roving security guard LOL
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: soupbone on July 08, 2014, 06:05:12 PM
"Gimme another lap, Honey, I think I got the F-stop and EV right this time....."

soup
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 08, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
A few pics from the 4th of July parade I was in.

(http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h4_yxUntXXU/U7ytEGXAZrI/AAAAAAAAOEw/ArVnLc6ExcM/s1280/DSC01875.jpg)

(http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YXFDnUSWntg/U7ytFcaDyGI/AAAAAAAAOFE/lPBhy2O-WhI/s1280/DSC01889.jpg)

(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LcvYj63qJYU/U7ytFYqWpXI/AAAAAAAAOE8/-4xvV2_tRGQ/s1280/DSC01894.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on July 08, 2014, 08:50:09 PM
passengers
(http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h6AaKAK97Q8/U7ytGDvwdMI/AAAAAAAAOFM/sXXaR3cpx3k/s1280/DSC01903-2.jpg)

the view
(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dfVufGa5e2U/U7ytG4iMcWI/AAAAAAAAOFQ/bB9TBt2loI8/s1280/DSC01914.jpg)
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: archer on July 08, 2014, 09:39:01 PM
damn, that looks like fun
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: Caveat on July 08, 2014, 11:41:44 PM
Oh yeah.  Looking great.  Makes me realize I need to get started on my M37 and not wait anymore.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on September 25, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
Oh yeah.  Looking great.  Makes me realize I need to get started on my M37 and not wait anymore.

So get to it!
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: JerseyVince on October 07, 2014, 03:33:11 PM
Just a heads up, There's a seller with OEM NOS M35 E-Brake shoes(no backings just material) drilled and with rivets for $20 + 12 shipping

part number 12301474

231354437187 item number
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: IronTeaCup on November 11, 2014, 09:58:51 PM
I have always thought one of these are so cool!!! I would love one but how much life do they really have left? also what are the other functions you can stack into something like this? Maybe a tow rig for off road only vehicles? a boat? I dont know just trying to see whats might be a good use of my money when time comes and I am able to spend some on something cool like this.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 11, 2014, 10:46:54 PM
I have always thought one of these are so cool!!! I would love one but how much life do they really have left? also what are the other functions you can stack into something like this? Maybe a tow rig for off road only vehicles? a boat? I dont know just trying to see whats might be a good use of my money when time comes and I am able to spend some on something cool like this.

Life left? It only had 12k miles on it when I got it. Motor is not even fully broken in at 12,000 miles. So plenty of life. Towing is not a problem. It just does not get there fast.

Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: IronTeaCup on November 12, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Life left? It only had 12k miles on it when I got it. Motor is not even fully broken in at 12,000 miles. So plenty of life. Towing is not a problem. It just does not get there fast.

good to know all that! yea I am not to worried about getting one then so long as I can buy it in cash
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: bdhutier on November 12, 2014, 03:23:37 PM
Most of the vehicles you're getting from DRMS nowadays are the remnants from reserve/NG units, and stock rotation from PREPO and national stockpile.  The vast majority of these guys were run long enough to make sure they function, used for a little skills training, and a hundred mile or so jaunt to and back from a 3-day off site drill somewhere once a year.  Other than weather degradation, they're practically brand new.

I just wish I had the spare money to scoop up an old 939 wrecker, and a 1009!!  Won't be long before they're all dried up...  :-\
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on November 12, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Truth about the dried up part. I have not seen a M35A2 or M109A3 at auction for quite a while.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on December 16, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Bunch of 6x6 5 ton trucks at auction.
http://www.govplanet.com/jsp/equip/auctions.jsp?groupId=11611
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: cmxterra on December 16, 2014, 03:23:07 PM
Bunch of 6x6 5 ton trucks at auction.
http://www.govplanet.com/jsp/equip/auctions.jsp?groupId=11611

I see a bunch of 5 tons. No deuce.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: nkawtg on December 16, 2014, 03:58:49 PM
Those 1998 Stewart & Stevenson M1079 LMTV 4x4 Van Truck's look way nice. Sort of Expedition Vehicle looking.


The opening bid for the humvee's is 10 g's
too steep for me.
Title: Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
Post by: John Doe on December 24, 2014, 01:10:17 AM
So, on the way home, did you notice the sensation of the road in front of you just "opening up"? No one daring to cut you off in traffic? People accelerating or changing lanes to make room for the camo creature in their rear view mirror?

 ;D

I've driven these back in the day, in the Army. People really DO get out of your way- it's quite noticeable lol
Nice Rig!! I love the style of yours with the box & windows. I've never seen one like that!