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Title: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 10, 2012, 10:46:19 AM
Howdy folks, I have been busy constructing a tiny house on my property along the banks of the Arkansas River in NE Oklahoma . I heard Jack mention tiny houses in a recent episode and decided to document the journey if anyone is interested.
(http://IMG_0722)

Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 10, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
I decided that a basement/storm shelter would be a good idea, so I spent the better part of July digging.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/photo12.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/photo10.jpg)

With that done, I began digging my footings. I went ahead and insulated them to prevent condensation. This was probably the most tedious part of the whole construction process because everything had to be perfectly level and square.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Diggingfootings.jpg)
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Post by: ncjeeper on December 10, 2012, 12:35:10 PM
Whats your square footage going to be?
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Post by: Jerry D Young on December 10, 2012, 12:42:48 PM
Good job! Look forward to more. I'm planning something similar in the future and hope to learn from your experience.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 10, 2012, 12:54:21 PM
My square footage is 107-it's the "Weller" by Tumbleweed Tiny houses. By adding the basement the house is much more practical from a prepper standpoint and really gives me a lot of options. I plan to put in a root cellar within a year now that I know a little bit about working w/ concrete blocks.
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Post by: cohutt on December 10, 2012, 04:55:54 PM
Keep us posted- my wife has become a tiny house fanatic.
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Post by: Nicodemus on December 10, 2012, 08:50:36 PM
I love the tiny house idea myself. I look forward to seeing your home progress!
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Post by: nelson96 on December 10, 2012, 10:49:10 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: backwoods_engineer on December 11, 2012, 06:54:23 AM
Howdy folks, I have been busy constructing a tiny house on my property along the banks of the Arkansas River in NE Oklahoma . I heard Jack mention tiny houses in a recent episode and decided to document the journey if anyone is interested.
(http://IMG_0722)

Having spent 20 years in that area, I'm looking forward to seeing your results.
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Post by: GomerPile on December 11, 2012, 07:23:37 AM
Take lots of pics and document your work.  The more documented builds will be a big help to others thinking about building tiny homes.  Can't wait to see it progress. 

I think you may be the first tiny house build in the sub 200sf range to have a cellar.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 11, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Hey Gomer, I think you may be right, I've scoured the internet and haven't found anyone else that has built a basement in a tiny house. It's essentially a house built on top of a root cellar!

This is a pic looking towards the Arkansas River from where my kitchen will be.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IMG_0722.jpg)

And this is another from early on, facing south east.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Excavation.jpg)

PS-Did anyone notice the hugelkulture/mountain chain in the distance in the earlier excavation pics? I wound up having a lot of extra soil to work with! Also going to use some to build a berm for target practice.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: markl32 on December 11, 2012, 10:25:34 AM

Looking forward to watching the process! 

I am planning to have a tiny house in my future as part of a b&b / agro turism destination nestled in amongst what will hopefully be a working and developing permaculture site. 
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Cedar on December 11, 2012, 10:52:59 AM
and haven't found anyone else that has built a basement in a tiny house. It's essentially a house built on top of a root cellar!

There are a few people in Oregon who do (gotta watch that water table here though), and some of the people who manufacture the tiny homes for sale state that some of their models are meant to go on a basement.

Cedar
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Post by: johnauck on December 11, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
Thanks for showing us the photos. Very interesting.

I am curious about the planning (if any) permits required?

Down here we can build a shed/shack that is less than 9 square meters (about 96 square feet) without a permit. So adding additional Tiny dwellings is something that I might look into.

My wife and eye are in the process of planning to build are much larger house, a Peter Lees loft design. I am now thinking that constructing a Tiny house first might be worthwhile.


cheers

john

Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 11, 2012, 08:57:19 PM
My county requires a permit for anything 120 square feet and up so I didn't bother getting one. I'm going to put in solar for my electricity needs (sticking to LEDs to keep it efficient) and will be using propane for cooking and hot water. As far as waste, I am running graywater to a retention pond down slope from the site and am using a humanure composter.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: nelson96 on December 11, 2012, 09:29:06 PM
My county requires a permit for anything 120 square feet and up so I didn't bother getting one. I'm going to put in solar for my electricity needs (sticking to LEDs to keep it efficient) and will be using propane for cooking and hot water. As far as waste, I am running graywater to a retention pond down slope from the site and am using a humanure composter.

You're covered in my State with that.  But in my State you can build up to 120 and add on to that as long as you retain at least 1 original wall when you add on.  As a disclaimer though, it may be different from county to county.
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Post by: SteveandTracyinKY on December 12, 2012, 01:36:17 AM
Just chiming in so I can follow the thread  :popcorn:
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Post by: GeddyFlea on December 12, 2012, 11:57:59 AM
OkieBoy - you must be me! I was thinking of doing the same thing with the Jay Shafer tiny homes. Will your taxes increase with this structure? I like the Fencl. I don't see the Weller on his website though.
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Post by: GeddyFlea on December 12, 2012, 12:03:39 PM
So...you will have an entrance to the cellar separate from the home?
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Post by: Erigorn on December 12, 2012, 12:09:23 PM
Looks cool. Good luck and please keep posting pics.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 12, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
Thanks for the encouragement and interest everyone, this has been quite a journey.

Geddy, you must be a fellow Rush fan I take it?? The entrance is through a trap door in the floor of the house. I haven't seen the Weller on their website lately either, but it is featured in Jay's Tiny House book.

This is a closeup detail of the footing before the pour. I dug the footings below grade and used the earth as support, using gutter nails to fasten the insulation (1''). Once they were leveled, I installed my rebar.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1086.jpg)

Footings poured with blocks stacked to get an idea how high I wanted to go.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1094.jpg)

After the footings cured, I sealed them (3 times) with a waterproofing latex paint called Drylok, as well as the underside of the concrete blocks. I don't want leaks!

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1107.jpg)
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on December 12, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
this is pretty sweet. i can't wait to see the progress on this.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 12, 2012, 01:04:42 PM
I forgot to mention earlier that I built the frame in April-June of this year in the workshop. I was given tons of wood from my banker (!) and all I had to do was rip it to size. If I had used wood from Lowes it would haven't taken as long, but making good use of what we have is what it's all about anyway.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Frame/IMG_0903.jpg)

Floor frame

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Frame/IMG_0865.jpg)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: bbobwat33 on December 12, 2012, 05:00:22 PM
looks good, but i think you've got a little problem with your window and door headers. looking at the pictures, you need to continue your joist layout between the top of the headers and the bottom of your top plate. right now you're spanning about three feet or so with your top plates with nothing holding the load (space between top plate and header). just cut you some short blocks in fit and carry them on 16" layout or just rip down a couple 2 by's and fill the whole gap and you'll be good.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: nelson96 on December 12, 2012, 05:26:06 PM
Looks fine to me unless you are suggesting he add another cripple stud directly underneath each trimmer stud on the windows.

(http://www.carpentry-pro-framer.com/images/typical-wall-framing.png)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: nelson96 on December 12, 2012, 05:33:30 PM
Ahhh, yes, now I see it.  He needs to add some blocks above his header to support between it and his top plate. . .  Good eye.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: bbobwat33 on December 12, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
Ahhh, yes, now I see it.  He needs to add some blocks above his header to support between it and his top plate. . .  Good eye.

you're right about the cripplers against the jacks too. but he should be alright without it cause modern windows weight is carried by screws into the jacks instead of the sill plate. but i'd those in if i were op.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 13, 2012, 06:47:31 AM
I actually added those after the pics, so I think it should be alright. Good eye!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Roundabouts on December 13, 2012, 09:26:22 AM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: tomtom on December 17, 2012, 02:45:17 PM
Awesome start! I'm going to check back and keep an eye on your progress.  :)
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Post by: phobos on December 17, 2012, 03:07:15 PM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: joeinwv on December 17, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
Looking forward to progress, little houses are sweet!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 17, 2012, 07:27:32 PM
Next, I used type S mortar and stuck the concrete blocks to the footing. This was another part of the construction process where everything had to be meticulous-I definitely have a new respect for masons and folks who work with concrete. I just used a mixing tub for the mortar mixes (I had a truck deliver the footing concrete). It took a while but I finally got all the blocks square and level. Also, notice that I had to cut one block per side to get the proper fit.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1114.jpg)

This is a pic of the freshly poured slab. I went with 4" thick and poured the concrete so that it was 2" above the bottom of the blocks. This helps the bottom course resist lateral pressure (refer to Rob Roy's excellent book on underground construction for tons of great ideas).

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1128.jpg)

I've never been more proud of a piece of concrete! 8)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1129.jpg)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 17, 2012, 07:30:01 PM
A closer pic showing how the concrete rises above the bottom of the block.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1131.jpg)

And the beginning of the dry stack process.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1132.jpg)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: theBINKYhunter on December 18, 2012, 06:20:04 AM
nice progress. i wish i could help! i love doing this type of thing and learning
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Post by: kevo on December 18, 2012, 08:57:50 AM
Are you doing the basement with a dry stacked CMU and surface bonding cement?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 18, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
Are you doing the basement with a dry stacked CMU and surface bonding cement?

I am, and here's the next series of photos.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1148.jpg)

Notice that I have rebar sticking out from a few blocks. I poured concrete columns in 10 of the blocks throughout the perimeter.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Basement-StackingBlocks.jpg)

And here we have most of the stacking done. After stacking 6 high, I applied a product called Quikwall (a mortar with fiberglass strands) to the inside and out followed by two coats of Drylok. Apparently Quikwall is very water resistant too, so with the addition of the Drylok I feel confident that things will stay dry.
Once the Drylok cured I ran a drain tile from the rear of the basement to the front on a grade so that water would migrate to 2 four-foot deep holes which were filled with gravel. Next, I layed 1" blueboard all the way around the perimeter and backfilled part way.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Basement-Halfstacked.jpg)
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Post by: inconel710 on December 18, 2012, 01:14:15 PM
Nice progress.
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Post by: Nicodemus on December 18, 2012, 02:12:53 PM
That is looking good, Okie!

Can I make a request? Could you please give us an estimate of time on the various steps as you go along?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: kevo on December 18, 2012, 06:34:10 PM
I'm really digging this post and watching your progress. It's amazing how once you start putting up the vertical parts, the space seems to shrink a little.

What will the head space be in the basement? Will you be able to stand up in there?

Will you be installing stairs or just a trap door with a ladder?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 18, 2012, 08:54:15 PM
That is looking good, Okie!

Can I make a request? Could you please give us an estimate of time on the various steps as you go along?

Thanks Nicodemus! Let's see....Most of July was spent just digging the hole. At first by hand, then with a small rented Kubota excavator and finally with the family Kubota tractor/front end loader. It still took a solid three days with the tractor-the soil was dry and compacted. I couldn't believe how much soil came out that hole.
I probably spent close to two weeks just getting the site squared, digging footings and doing general miscellaneous chores that you don't consider until you get started. Another two weeks were spent cutting blueboard, setting it into place, leveling, cursing and doing it again until I knew it was perfect-no room for error at this stage. And finally we poured the footing.
It took a good month for waterproofing the footing, actually getting the blocks to my place (a story unto itself), mortaring the first blocks (very time consuming), cutting 36 blocks to size and finally dry stacking. A good chunk of the month was spent plastering with the Quikwall, as you have to keep the blocks wet before and after application, painting the inside and out with Drylok (two coats), insulating and backfilling.  :P
Remember, I was learning as I went along and someone with more experience could have finished much sooner. But I had a picture perfect fall, so time well spent.

Here are some more pics from the process.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1149_zps3032b7c1.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1152_zpse999103a.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1155_zpsda76397c.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1156_zps952e5217.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1162_zps389016d8.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1164_zps34021f28.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1168_zpsfa099f95.jpg)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on December 18, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
I'm really digging this post and watching your progress. It's amazing how once you start putting up the vertical parts, the space seems to shrink a little.

What will the head space be in the basement? Will you be able to stand up in there?

Will you be installing stairs or just a trap door with a ladder?

It does seem to shrink. At first. Then it suddenly seems roomy. The head space is just a bit over 6', but ya gotta watch out for joists. I ended up stacking 9 blocks high.

The entrance is through a trap door with a ladder.
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on December 18, 2012, 09:42:48 PM
once you are finished, or maybe even before i think it would be great if you did a show with jack about this. he mentioned tiny houses on the hands off BOL show. i would love to hear more about as i find it fascinating.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Burton on December 20, 2012, 03:51:09 PM
Found this blog the other day when I was searching for tiny houses in VA.

http://smallhousebigadventure.com/2012/12/19/virtual-tour/
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on January 02, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
All right! Done with the holidays and now I can get back to it.

So this is a pic of me installing the joists on top of the sill plates. I used J bolts and anchored them in each of the concrete columns, and after setting, I flipped each sill upside down, pounded it w/ a hammer to make marks then drilled the holes. Miraculously, every hole lined up perfectly. (I put down sill sealer before bolting them). After tightening them up, I sealed the outside and inside of the sill with silicone.
As the pic shows, we then placed the pre-built subfloor on the sills and toe nailed it. Also, I used 90 degree brackets with lag bolts to really make sure it was secure.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Sillsubfloorinstall.jpg)

And another. I added more bracing once everything was in place.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Sillcloseup.jpg)

Flooring in place. Note the trap door just in front of the broom.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Flooring.jpg)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Roundabouts on January 02, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
Wow you are moving right along.  Looks good.
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on January 02, 2013, 10:42:37 AM
looking good!
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Post by: Morgan96 on January 02, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Looking real good, Okieboy.
Just curious, is the house going to have a loft for a sleeping area?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on January 02, 2013, 09:33:10 PM
Looking real good, Okieboy.
Just curious, is the house going to have a loft for a sleeping area?

Thanks Morgan. Yes, it does have a sleeping loft and a rather roomy storage area as well.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Cedar on January 02, 2013, 09:57:04 PM
You are cruising on this... good job on it!

Cedar
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Post by: Nicodemus on January 03, 2013, 06:14:54 AM
Looking good!
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Post by: OkieBoy on January 03, 2013, 08:01:17 AM
Up with walls! I pre-built all of the frame, but it still took quite a while to get everything leveled and squared up.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Framing.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Framework-1.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Leveling.jpg)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: theBINKYhunter on January 03, 2013, 12:33:49 PM
i know it's a 'tiny' house, but when the framing goes up things always seem to shrink, IMO. but once the walls go on then it gets big again...

do you have an estimate on what the cost will be once you're done?
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Post by: Burton on January 03, 2013, 01:51:44 PM
do you have an estimate on what the cost will be once you're done?
I would also be curious to the cost. But more so to your process. Have you thought about starting a tumbler blog, I think they are free, and posting detailed write-ups on your progress there?

Also was this design zoning approved ?
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Post by: archer on January 03, 2013, 02:30:32 PM
looking very good
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Post by: Erigorn on January 03, 2013, 04:38:45 PM
Looking very good. I am very interested because i have a large man made hill in my back yard that I wanted to basically put a small bunker/storage area into it. Was thinking I could hide it with putting a playhouse/kids fort on top of it, with a trap-door to access the underground area. It would actually be very, very similar to what you are doing except I won't be running power, water, heat, etc.

1 question have going back is the board insulation you used. Is that needed? I was hoping to keep it like a cold storage area that kept a steady temp year round. I would think I would not want insulation. Maybe I am confused. If you have any insight please shoot me an answer (but not at the expense of furthering your progress and documenting it)
Thanks
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Morning Sunshine on January 03, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
my 11-yo wants to build one.  me too, actually.  with the basement as an extra cold food storage, and the upper part as a guest house.
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Post by: Jerry D Young on January 03, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
Doing great! Keep up the good work.
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Post by: Morgan96 on January 03, 2013, 06:46:27 PM
+1 for effort and for sharing!
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Post by: OkieBoy on January 03, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
When it's all done it should still be under $10,000 and that includes spray-in foam insulation and casement windows.
A Tumblr blog sounds like a good idea, although I think TSP forum will work for what I'm doing.

Erigorn, the insulation's purpose is to prevent thermal bridging, and therefore condensation on the basement walls. The Rob Roy book I read was pretty adamant about using it. The basement still hovers around the 40-53 degree range, so I don't believe it really is that drastic. Also, it is one more barrier to water movement.
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Post by: nelson96 on January 03, 2013, 10:06:31 PM
Erigorn, the insulation's purpose is to prevent thermal bridging, and therefore condensation on the basement walls. The Rob Roy book I read was pretty adamant about using it. The basement still hovers around the 40-53 degree range, so I don't believe it really is that drastic. Also, it is one more barrier to water movement.

Good call.  Mold in a basement could condemn the entire structure.
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Post by: Nicodemus on January 04, 2013, 06:21:58 AM
When it's all done it should still be under $10,000 and that includes spray-in foam insulation and casement windows.
A Tumblr blog sounds like a good idea, although I think TSP forum will work for what I'm doing.

Warning, Self-Serving Commentary to Follow...

Yes, please keep it here in the forums!  ;D

End Warning


Seriously though, you're speeding through this. The work is impressive. I can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Erigorn on January 04, 2013, 08:32:47 AM
Thanks for the answer on the foam. Looks like I need to do some more reading to get up to speed. Condensation and mold are obviously bad. Maybe I'll get the book you mentioned.
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Post by: Hootie on January 04, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
great work!

really great to see this being created step by step
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Post by: ttubravesrock on January 04, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
Good call.  Mold in a basement could condemn the entire structure.

What basement? If he plays his cards right, nobody will have to know that there is a basement for this tiny home.

Okie, +1 for your progress pics. My wife and I are interested in a slightly bigger tiny home, and it helps to appreciate the 320 S.F. that we currently live in.  One good thing about using CMUs for your basement construction is that you could potentially expand your basement or connect it to another underground structure with minimal destruction.  You know which 10 columns are reinforced.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on January 04, 2013, 02:49:23 PM
Putting the upper parts on. Really glad I finished the rafters-the wind was really blowing everything around that day.
Note the pvc pipe on the south side. That is where the solar/wind power lines will be coming into the house.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Earlyframing.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Frameleveling.jpg)

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Post by: Burton on January 05, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
The Rob Roy book I read was pretty adamant about using it.
Which Rob Roy book are you talking about? Also is this a pre-designed building, meaning you can get the plans somewhere, or did you design it yourself (and can we see the plans :) )
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Twibble on January 05, 2013, 12:13:37 PM
Which Rob Roy book are you talking about? Also is this a pre-designed building, meaning you can get the plans somewhere, or did you design it yourself (and can we see the plans :) )

My square footage is 107-it's the "Weller" by Tumbleweed Tiny houses.

I haven't seen the Weller on their website lately either, but it is featured in Jay's Tiny House book.


He already answered one question...now I'm off to see what Rob Roy has out.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Burton on January 05, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Thanks, so much info filling my head I missed it >_<

I looked up the books by Rob but he has so many to choose from. Might be required reading the in the future as my 5 year plan is to get land and enough money to build on it :)

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Post by: Twibble on January 05, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
In case anyone else is trying to hunt down Rob Roy: http://www.cordwoodmasonry.com/booksandmedia.html
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on January 06, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Here's a link to the Rob Roy book I was referring to.
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-Underground-Houses-Build/dp/0806907282/ref=sr_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1357533820&sr=1-18&keywords=rob+roy
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: JC2 on January 07, 2013, 06:04:37 AM
@Okieboy, Not sure if i missed this but what did you do for your drainage around the perimeter of the basement? I know i saw the hole for the basement, but i didnt see where you put in a drainage pipe to slope the water away from the basement foundation. Even with all those precautions you seem to be taking - hydrostatic pressure is definetly a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on January 07, 2013, 11:41:12 AM
@Okieboy, Not sure if i missed this but what did you do for your drainage around the perimeter of the basement? I know i saw the hole for the basement, but i didnt see where you put in a drainage pipe to slope the water away from the basement foundation. Even with all those precautions you seem to be taking - hydrostatic pressure is definetly a force to be reckoned with.

JC2, I ran drain tile all the way around the base of the basement, sloping from the back to the front and draining into gravel filled holes. Also, the drain tile has a fabric around it which is supposed to keep silt from infiltrating. Hope it works! Additionally, the Drylok water sealant  claims to keep your concrete dry up to a hydraulic head of 26 feet. Given that I applied two heavy coats on the outside/inside and more in the floor, I think it will work. The Quikwall is also an impermeable barrier, so  that's one more thing. It's been bone-dry so, although it never seems to rain anymore.....
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Post by: MTUCache on January 07, 2013, 03:07:06 PM
JC2, I ran drain tile all the way around the base of the basement, sloping from the back to the front and draining into gravel filled holes. Also, the drain tile has a fabric around it which is supposed to keep silt from infiltrating. Hope it works! Additionally, the Drylok water sealant  claims to keep your concrete dry up to a hydraulic head of 26 feet. Given that I applied two heavy coats on the outside/inside and more in the floor, I think it will work. The Quikwall is also an impermeable barrier, so  that's one more thing. It's been bone-dry so, although it never seems to rain anymore.....
This is, to me, one of the key parts of the Tiny House movement that gets so often over-looked... yes, you lose a lot of the "economy of scale" you would get by buying large quantities of supplies, but since you're buying so much less you can afford to really upgrade and over-engineer things where it's important to you. If there's any question at all about getting a premium material or putting in a few extra features you can do it with only a handful of extra dollars.

On most Tiny House sites you read they do touch briefly on this, but mostly when it comes to expensive finishes or luxury items. Very rarely do they touch on engineering or structural issues.

When you're building a McMansion for sale to the public, it's really easy to trade out $5000 worth of structural modification that will probably go unnoticed anyway, especially when you're going to be putting that $5000 into a stone facade or granite counter-tops... things that will add to the market value and get the attention of most buyers. When the builder is doing that for himself he's probably not scrimping on those things, but his house is also more expensive.

When you take all that material and labor and divide it by 10, suddenly it seems a lot more worthwhile. Yes, I can see the value in putting another $500 into the structure as well as paying a few hundred extra for some cosmetic stuff.... You're not forced to constantly compromise, you've probably got enough resources to do both.  :P

Anyway, this is looking great... and I really like the fact that you're not building it on wheels... that part of most Tiny House blogs has really gotten on my nerves. I know it's a building code thing in most places, but the idea of dragging my house down the highway really takes away from what I think makes a house a home. I like that this one has a structure that's a part of the land.  ;D
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Post by: OkieBoy on January 07, 2013, 07:12:18 PM
This is, to me, one of the key parts of the Tiny House movement that gets so often over-looked... yes, you lose a lot of the "economy of scale" you would get by buying large quantities of supplies, but since you're buying so much less you can afford to really upgrade and over-engineer things where it's important to you. If there's any question at all about getting a premium material or putting in a few extra features you can do it with only a handful of extra dollars.

On most Tiny House sites you read they do touch briefly on this, but mostly when it comes to expensive finishes or luxury items. Very rarely do they touch on engineering or structural issues.

When you're building a McMansion for sale to the public, it's really easy to trade out $5000 worth of structural modification that will probably go unnoticed anyway, especially when you're going to be putting that $5000 into a stone facade or granite counter-tops... things that will add to the market value and get the attention of most buyers. When the builder is doing that for himself he's probably not scrimping on those things, but his house is also more expensive.

When you take all that material and labor and divide it by 10, suddenly it seems a lot more worthwhile. Yes, I can see the value in putting another $500 into the structure as well as paying a few hundred extra for some cosmetic stuff.... You're not forced to constantly compromise, you've probably got enough resources to do both.  :P

Anyway, this is looking great... and I really like the fact that you're not building it on wheels... that part of most Tiny House blogs has really gotten on my nerves. I know it's a building code thing in most places, but the idea of dragging my house down the highway really takes away from what I think makes a house a home. I like that this one has a structure that's a part of the land.  ;D

Bingo! You get to put so much more effort and money into the right places doing it this way. There are so many details that you don't think about until you actually build yourself, but man, it's great! And you're right, it seems 90% of tiny houses are on wheels, this one's got freaking ROOTS!!
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Post by: kevo on February 11, 2013, 10:47:21 PM
How's the house coming along?
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 14, 2013, 12:43:32 PM
It's coming along nicely. I'll get some pics up soon and get ya'll updated-I'm actually pretty shocked at how well it's coming together.
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Post by: OkieBoy on March 25, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
Wow, I've been slacking on the documentation of this project. But I've been super busy making things happen.

More framing pics.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IMG_1203_zps1b334b69.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IMG_1204_zpsda483e85.jpg)

And the siding.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IMG_1205_zps1bb300ec.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IMG_1207_zps00b70919.jpg)
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on March 25, 2013, 10:06:17 AM
this is looking great. thanks for the update!
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Post by: Nicodemus on March 26, 2013, 06:13:19 AM
Looking good, Okie!
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Post by: Greg1109 on March 26, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Looks great so far.  Can't wait to see some more progress.   
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Post by: OkieBoy on March 26, 2013, 08:08:24 PM
Here, I had just added the 1/4'' osb. I know 1/4" is a bit thin, but considering how small-scale the whole project is and the fact that I liquid nailed and screwed it together still makes for a very sturdy structure. It wasn't easy gluing and screwing the osb into place by myself.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1210_zps3a427e4c.jpg)

Side view. Note the cut out for the purlin on the upper right.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1213_zpse9130394.jpg)

And here we've got the windows cut out. It was nice to finally see what the view was like!

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1214_zps546fd1b1.jpg)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1216_zps12a6e147.jpg)
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on March 26, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
are you going to leave the basement exposed like that or are you planning on back filling up to the base of the house?
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Post by: OkieBoy on March 27, 2013, 07:14:49 AM
Warrior,
I backfilled up to about 1' below the sill.
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Post by: Dan on March 27, 2013, 07:35:00 PM
 Too Cool!

I cant wait to see how this turns out. :popcorn:
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Post by: onesojourner on March 28, 2013, 08:55:59 AM
What are you going to use for insulation?
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Post by: OkieBoy on March 28, 2013, 10:11:50 AM
What are you going to use for insulation?

I was gung ho on getting spray-in foam insulation, but after getting a $1250 quote I decided to use blue board cut to size instead. I figure it's still foam, and honestly I am afraid the small size may make the house too airtight.  I'll go into detail on the whole process as soon as I can get caught up!
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Post by: onesojourner on March 28, 2013, 01:00:40 PM
I was gung ho on getting spray-in foam insulation, but after getting a $1250 quote I decided to use blue board cut to size instead. I figure it's still foam, and honestly I am afraid the small size may make the house too airtight.  I'll go into detail on the whole process as soon as I can get caught up!

Wow that does sound pretty high. I had my whole roof done and it was under 3k. I think you would be ok on the tightness front. Just going in and out would probably provide enough air exchange on that small of a space. I do like blue board and I wish I had done 2 inches of that in combination with the spray foam on the roof.
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Post by: Burton on March 28, 2013, 03:04:05 PM
Could use an air tight house to your advantage and run a earth tube to the house with a vent in the ceiling to provide free cooling / warming :)
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Post by: OkieBoy on April 16, 2013, 07:26:31 AM
Getting the rafters in place was a major headache, as it was a balancing act and I had to watch out for the wind. The hardest part was cutting the bird's mouth to the proper dimensions (which I still have not mastered  ;)).

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Rafterinstall.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/Rafterinstall.jpg.html)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Rafters.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/Rafters.jpg.html)

Gluing and screwing the roof sheathing into place. It may be a tiny house, but you don't want to fall!

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Roofdecking_zps89dd79fd.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Roofdecking_zps89dd79fd.jpg.html)
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on April 16, 2013, 07:34:30 AM
nice. i expect an invite to the house warming party ;)
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Post by: Roundabouts on April 17, 2013, 12:19:34 AM
It's looking so so good.  Love the pics.  Every time I have to clean house I keep thinking about your tiny house and thinking man that would be sweet!  I am seriously trying to get hubby to agree to move down to just using 1/2 the house.  Then a 1/4 then a tiny house.  LOL shhh don't tell my plan.  Very inspirational can't wait to see the fun stuff on the inside. 
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Post by: nelson96 on April 17, 2013, 07:54:05 AM
I am seriously trying to get hubby to agree to move down to just using 1/2 the house.  Then a 1/4 then a tiny house.  LOL shhh don't tell my plan.  Very inspirational can't wait to see the fun stuff on the inside.

Wait ! . . .  Are people actually building these to live in them full time? 
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Post by: Roundabouts on April 17, 2013, 07:56:36 PM
Wait ! . . .  Are people actually building these to live in them full time?

I don't know about others but to me I would love to have a house that is only 800 sq ft or smaller 200?  Now that is the house.  The shop and barn can be huge  ;)  Oh and don't forget the green house! 
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Post by: ttubravesrock on April 18, 2013, 12:00:41 AM
I don't know about others but to me I would love to have a house that is only 800 sq ft or smaller 200?  Now that is the house.  The shop and barn can be huge  ;)  Oh and don't forget the green house!

The house that my wife, my big dog, and I have lived in for the past 2 years is 16x20 and has no running water. They have been the best 2 years of our lives too. We love it the way it is.
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Post by: Cedar on April 18, 2013, 12:10:53 AM
Wait ! . . .  Are people actually building these to live in them full time?

There are alot of ppl living in tiny houses here in Oregon nelson. I know 2 personally.

Cedar
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Post by: nelson96 on April 18, 2013, 08:52:48 AM
I guess that's cool if you don't have a pot to pee in.  I won't make up an entire list of items one would have to do without, but even if it's just two people, you wouldn't have much room to keep any more than a weeks worth of food andone extra change of clothes for each season. . . .  I'll say this much, I wouldn't choose those conditions as a per manant lifestyle if I had a choice. 
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Post by: livinitup0 on April 18, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
I guess that's cool if you don't have a pot to pee in.  I won't make up an entire list of items one would have to do without, but even if it's just two people, you wouldn't have much room to keep any more than a weeks worth of food andone extra change of clothes for each season. . . .  I'll say this much, I wouldn't choose those conditions as a per manant lifestyle if I had a choice.

agreed... for a vacation house or hunting cabin sure, sounds amazing...but for my main abode? I'm gonna need a little more room than that... even if it was just me. Props to the people that make this work as their main residence.
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Post by: MTUCache on April 18, 2013, 12:47:34 PM
agreed... for a vacation house or hunting cabin sure, sounds amazing...but for my main abode? I'm gonna need a little more room than that... even if it was just me. Props to the people that make this work as their main residence.
Definitely something to be said for simplifying life and really getting down to a minimalist lifestyle...
I may consider it if I was a single guy looking for some peace and quiet, but I'm pretty confident that it would involve another building of some kind on a pretty big piece of land (sheds, pole barn, etc).

I could do without all the extra clothes and kitchen gadgets, but any money that I saved on a house payment would probably go into a few motorized toys that I'd need storage for.  :P
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Post by: nelson96 on April 20, 2013, 10:18:12 AM
I would have to have a barn and/or shop too.  If my goal was to be a minimalist, I would build my home in to the barn or shop.
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Post by: OkieBoy on April 23, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
Yeah, I'm really enjoying the process. I always say that yes, I have a tiny house, but my front yard is enormous-and I prefer to spend the majority of my time outside anyway. So it really becomes a place where I can shower, sleep and cook. My plan is to keep adding buildings/structures, etc. For example, I intend to build a really nice root shelter within the year with the skills I developed while building the basement. Also, I have tons of wood left over to use in the construction of a greenhouse. I've built a heavy duty bench which I use to cook my meals, pot plants, sight in guns-it's essentially an outdoor kitchen. My place is quickly becoming a prepper's playground!

PS Wait till you guys see the swales!
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Post by: ttubravesrock on April 24, 2013, 10:22:35 AM
now you got me thinking... how far away from your basement are you thinking of putting the root cellar? You could probably connect them underground if you wanted.
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Post by: inconel710 on April 24, 2013, 11:27:09 AM
 
now you got me thinking... how far away from your basement are you thinking of putting the root cellar? You could probably connect them underground if you wanted.

Not after all the work he put into building that basement!  Something to think about when planning a project though.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on April 24, 2013, 09:58:21 PM
now you got me thinking... how far away from your basement are you thinking of putting the root cellar? You could probably connect them underground if you wanted.

I thought about that actually, but yeah, that would be a lot of work.....Cool idea though.
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Post by: MadBodger on May 06, 2013, 06:05:48 PM
The house that my wife, my big dog, and I have lived in for the past 2 years is 16x20 and has no running water. They have been the best 2 years of our lives too. We love it the way it is.
Not sure where you live as I can't see any profiles yet as a new guy, but your siggy seems familiar... we do miss that ole Rorry Borry Alice lightin' up the night! We spent 2 yrs  a little south of Denali in an 11x13 white canvas guide tent building a 16x24 hybrid timber framed cabin off grid with a half loft. Spent a'rd 6 yrs in that while raising twin boys, then downsized to a 12x16 with half loft at a different location after they left. Hand drilled a well just off the front porch of that w/ a 12v submersible pump dropped down into a 2" galvanized pipe that we drilled holes in at the bottom, similar to a sand point. Hauled the best water you ever had inside to a 30 gallon blue barrel under the kitchen counter & hand pumped it into a regular sink.

Okieboy, it's not really about how small or big a place one WANTS, it's starts with figgerin' out what one really NEEDS. Then if one can avoid "scope creep" you'll be surprised how well simplicity really works. Got some pics  available if you're interested, but don't wanna louse up your thread. Email me if you'd like. Huge nod to you & your efforts, you'll never ever regret what you're doing!
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Post by: Morning Sunshine on September 08, 2013, 04:06:33 PM
hey Okieboy - how is the progress?  Haven't heard from you in a few months.  Hopefully you have been busy building and taking pictures.  :)
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Post by: OkieBoy on December 01, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
hey Okieboy - how is the progress?  Haven't heard from you in a few months.  Hopefully you have been busy building and taking pictures.  :)

Hey Morning Sunshine, I am still working busily on the house. Really need to get pics up, but am so busy I rarely do much computer work. Currently working on the wind turbine and water system. Living there a good part of the time now that the weather is cool.
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on December 03, 2013, 06:14:10 AM
looking forward to the pic update! glad you're making good progress on it.
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Post by: FrugalFannie on December 03, 2013, 09:04:58 AM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: Marinesg1012 on December 15, 2013, 02:46:42 AM
Very interesting project and I like the updates. I would like to build something like this but with twins and 2 dogs it would be cramped.
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 14, 2014, 07:51:23 AM
Ok, I'm going to spend the better part of the day getting my pics organized and see if I can get this thread updated. The majority of these photos were taken a year ago, so I'll be able to get through the building process more quickly.

This pic was taken from the west and shows my recently-dug swale. I used the Kubota and a box blade and took me the better part of a weekend. Completely worth it as you'll see later.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/IMG_1310_zps1591956d.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/IMG_1310_zps1591956d.jpg.html)

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Post by: theBINKYhunter on February 14, 2014, 07:54:47 AM
woohoo! can't wait for the progress pictures
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 14, 2014, 09:53:16 AM
View from the SW after the roof sheathing was in place. Roofing was definitely the most unpleasant part of the whole job, especially with the strong winds.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/RoofDecking_zps83c3fd31.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/RoofDecking_zps83c3fd31.jpg.html)

Here's a view in the basement. I put down several layers of Drylok on the outside as well as the interior.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Inthebasement.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/Inthebasement.jpg.html)

Metal roofing in place!
Got stuck on the ridge one day after the wind blew my ladder off the side of the house. Glad the roofing is done for the next 50 years.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/MetalRoof_zps19759dab.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/MetalRoof_zps19759dab.jpg.html)

View showing the porch framing. The porch/gable is end was especially difficult due to the small size. I really think a larger house would be easier in some ways.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/PorchFrame_zps11d0fbd1.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/PorchFrame_zps11d0fbd1.jpg.html)

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Post by: inconel710 on February 14, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
Nice job.  Keep 'em coming!
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Post by: Sweethearts Mom on February 14, 2014, 12:51:31 PM
I didn't read back through; where in the country is this? and if in the N or NE how did it do with these snows?
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 14, 2014, 05:55:11 PM
I didn't read back through; where in the country is this? and if in the N or NE how did it do with these snows?

I am in NE Oklahoma, so we get a lot of interesting weather. It has done very well with the snow we've been getting these last few weeks.
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Post by: Oakie on February 14, 2014, 07:39:42 PM

Lovin' it, especially the basement!
Thanks for sharing all the details.
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 15, 2014, 08:11:05 AM
I decided to splurge on nice custom made casement windows. Regular cheap windows just wouldn't seem right. Glad I made the investment because not only are they efficient and ascetically pleasing, but they act as air scoops and funnel the wind right through the house as needed. Very nice when cooking in close quarters.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/WindowPorchNW_zps806ac1df.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/WindowPorchNW_zps806ac1df.jpg.html)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/WindowPorch_zps07bf35d0.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/WindowPorch_zps07bf35d0.jpg.html)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/WindowDetail_zps0b77df3e.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/WindowDetail_zps0b77df3e.jpg.html)

Notice the pipe on the lower left. That's where I fed the wires from the solar/wind into the basement.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/MetalRoof_zps19759dab.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/MetalRoof_zps19759dab.jpg.html)
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Post by: theBINKYhunter on February 15, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
nice windows. i think it was mentioned in this thread or on a podcast, but one of the nice advantages is that if you want to upgrade something it's very doable because the project is so small (compared to a 'regular' house).
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 15, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
nice windows. i think it was mentioned in this thread or on a podcast, but one of the nice advantages is that if you want to upgrade something it's very doable because the project is so small (compared to a 'regular' house).

That's exactly the approach I've taken to this whole project. Plus, technology has shrunk so many everyday items, ie TVs/computers, that this is a very practical way to live.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on February 17, 2014, 07:31:20 AM
During a cold snap I constructed shelving in the basement from scrap lumber. I used leftover siding for my shelves and reinforced them with scrap wood. Total cost: $0.
I eventually built two more shelves and am happy with the amount of storage they provide.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/BaseStorage2_zpsac5d554f.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/BaseStorage2_zpsac5d554f.jpg.html)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/BaseStorage_zps658db075.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/BaseStorage_zps658db075.jpg.html)
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Post by: OkieBoy on February 22, 2014, 09:42:07 AM
This is the first interior pic I've put up. Notice the shower pan in the left rear corner. The drain went to the subfloor and exited through the sill board to the south. The kitchen sink tied into this this piping later in the build.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/WindowsInt_zpsd6dcf13d.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/WindowsInt_zpsd6dcf13d.jpg.html)
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Post by: ttubravesrock on March 16, 2014, 02:30:32 PM
Not to nitpick, but you put your wrap upside down!

It's looking great. I hope to be following in your footsteps by next winter, except in Alaska instead of Oklahoma.
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Post by: mountainmoma on August 19, 2014, 10:15:03 AM
ANy updates on this ?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on August 19, 2014, 08:53:26 PM
I'll be getting more pics up soon, just have soooooo much going on. Waiting till the days are a bit shorter and I'll finish out the details.
Spoiler: It's turned out to be absolutely amazing and far better than I could have even imagined! Also, I've been doing tons of landscape work, building swales, planting plants and am currently building a greenhouse. The Journey never ends.  ;)
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Post by: tman61 on August 20, 2014, 04:51:45 AM
 :clap:
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Post by: backwoods_engineer on August 20, 2014, 02:26:10 PM
:popcorn:
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Post by: Theswerd on August 20, 2014, 03:31:25 PM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: Chemsoldier on August 20, 2014, 07:24:18 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on September 02, 2014, 08:31:15 PM
Here's a pic looking toward the living room. I'm really happy with the way the door turned out. Made the the whole thing from scratch.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/DoorInterior2_zps2e1460ff.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/DoorInterior2_zps2e1460ff.jpg.html)

Hard at work on the door.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/Door_zps57bfc105.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/Door_zps57bfc105.jpg.html)

This is a view down the trap door into the basement. I ended up making the entrance a bit smaller and it worked it out beautifully.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IntUpperView_zpsa318093b.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/IntUpperView_zpsa318093b.jpg.html)

Rafter insulation detail. Really spent time foaming and siliconing every gap I could find.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/InteriorRafterFoam_zps8f63002e.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/InteriorRafterFoam_zps8f63002e.jpg.html)

West end gable detail.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IntWestGable_zps205bba11.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/IntWestGable_zps205bba11.jpg.html)

Sleeping loft detail.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/InteriorRafters_zpse2f25302.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/InteriorRafters_zpse2f25302.jpg.html)

Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: bradleypaul75 on September 02, 2014, 09:18:19 PM
really like it. thanks for showing us your stuff and the progress.

i'd ove to build something like this in the back forty of the homestead some day (when I have one that is)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: mnotlyon on September 03, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on September 03, 2014, 01:56:28 PM
Blueboard insulation along the east wall (Kitchen and shower areas). Did a lot of cut and fit, but made a few boards go a loooooong way.
Notice the wiring? Wish I had not have wired the whole house as I needed a grid tied inverter (I believe) to make it all go. Ended up doing the Steven Harris technique where you just run extension wire along baseboards etc. Would have saved lots of time, but I picked up a new skill so nothing is lost.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/IntBlueboard_zps62e41966.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/IntBlueboard_zps62e41966.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: theBINKYhunter on September 04, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
Here's a pic looking toward the living room. I'm really happy with the way the door turned out. Made the the whole thing from scratch.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/DoorInterior2_zps2e1460ff.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/DoorInterior2_zps2e1460ff.jpg.html)

So... have you met Cedar?

Thanks for the updates!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on September 04, 2014, 08:17:17 AM
So... have you met Cedar?

Thanks for the updates!

I haven't....
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Morning Sunshine on September 04, 2014, 08:21:24 AM
So... have you met Cedar?

I haven't....

tWH - you talking about the big "Z" on the door?  (OB - Cedar's fiancĂ© is called "Z" around here)

as always, I am fascinated by this house.... thanks for the updates

Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on September 04, 2014, 08:26:50 AM
More shower construction. I stapled plastic sheeting up and went overboard with the tape-can't afford any leaks. Then I stuffed insulation between the wall and plastic. Kinda lumpy but worked out just fine.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/ShowerInsulation_zpsd5111e5b.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/ShowerInsulation_zpsd5111e5b.jpg.html)

Here I have the basic framing done as well as my backerboard started.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/ShowerFrame_zps3fba7d50.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/ShowerFrame_zps3fba7d50.jpg.html)

And pex pipe install.
* Tip-when installing plumbing/wiring take pictures! It could save you a lot of headaches down the road!
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/JLuker112/Home/ShowerPex_zpsf40d9d0a.jpg) (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/JLuker112/media/Home/ShowerPex_zpsf40d9d0a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: mountainmoma on September 04, 2014, 08:31:51 AM
Looks good ! Thanks for posting pictures !
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: nelson96 on September 04, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
And pex pipe install.

I used pex in my most recent addition, but had it done for me.  I want to use it in the rest of the house.  Can you give me any ideas where to get the crimping tools without paying the terrible price I've been told they cost?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on September 04, 2014, 08:53:32 AM
I used pex in my most recent addition, but had it done for me.  I want to use it in the rest of the house.  Can you give me any ideas where to get the crimping tools without paying the terrible price I've been told they cost?

Hey Nelson, I just bit the bullet and bought it (around $50 I believe plus the cost of the cinch rings). It's one of those tools that you've gotta have. It was my first time using pex, but it was really easy and made for quick work. Hell of a lot easier than copper!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: nelson96 on September 04, 2014, 09:05:53 AM
Hey Nelson, I just bit the bullet and bought it (around $50 I believe plus the cost of the cinch rings). It's one of those tools that you've gotta have. It was my first time using pex, but it was really easy and made for quick work. Hell of a lot easier than copper!

$50??. . . .   Hell, I was told it was a couple hundred.  I guess I should have done my own research and not believed a friend who obviously had no idea. . . .  Thanks for the reply.

Pex is awesome.  I've done a lot of PVC, CPVC, and copper.  None of those have been what I would call hard to use, but pex looks MUCH EASIER AND QUICKER with has way better properties for fighting against broken pipes in cold weather.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Theswerd on September 04, 2014, 09:15:09 AM
You can actually crimp the clamps with a set of needle nose pliers. There is a higher chance of doing it wrong, and you may burn through more clips than you would like, but it CAN be done.
Source: Work/ed in a retail lumber/construction store. Asked the contractors lots of questions.
If you plan on using the crimps a lot in the future, then the tool is the best way to go. If it's just the one job, then you may wanna try a few with needle nose pliers and see if you can save the money...
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: theBINKYhunter on September 04, 2014, 10:43:47 AM
tWH - you talking about the big "Z" on the door?  (OB - Cedar's fiancĂ© is called "Z" around here)

Yeah, when I saw that door Z was the first thing I thought of. I'm going to PM Cedar to check out that door :)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: endurance on September 04, 2014, 11:08:07 AM
$50??. . . .   Hell, I was told it was a couple hundred.  I guess I should have done my own research and not believed a friend who obviously had no idea. . . .  Thanks for the reply.

Pex is awesome.  I've done a lot of PVC, CPVC, and copper.  None of those have been what I would call hard to use, but pex looks MUCH EASIER AND QUICKER with has way better properties for fighting against broken pipes in cold weather.
I bought the tool at Home Depot.  Not that bad, somewhere around $50 and well made for the price.  I'm gradually upgrading my house, too, but I'm converting from every type of material known to man, including galvanized threaded, copper tubing, copper pipe, and landscaping tubing, all integrated by a true genius (sarcasm).  I curse the guy who built this place regularly, and the son-in-law who maintained it since then even more so.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Vulcan on September 07, 2014, 09:06:35 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Theswerd on September 08, 2014, 09:07:23 AM
I bought the tool at Home Depot.  Not that bad, somewhere around $50 and well made for the price.  I'm gradually upgrading my house, too, but I'm converting from every type of material known to man, including galvanized threaded, copper tubing, copper pipe, and landscaping tubing, all integrated by a true genius (sarcasm).  I curse the guy who built this place regularly, and the son-in-law who maintained it since then even more so.


When I worked the retail side of my company, the store manager had a house he had just bought outside of town, had it build new. He wanted everything with Pex Pipe. The ONLY non-Pex part was the connection from the well to the Pex line feeding the house.
Enter Snowmaggedon of 2010... What part in the entire setup broke? That one PVC fitting. Everything else was golden. That alone has sold me on Pex. Does it cost more? Yeah. But that stuff will last through stuff PVC won't, and patching it (if you need to) looks to be easier.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Motsomi on October 06, 2014, 02:01:21 PM
 :popcorn: great looking house!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: NWPilgrim on October 07, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
House is looking great.  Must be very satisfying to hand build every inch of your tiny house.  I admire your initiative. How much has it cost you so far?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on October 10, 2014, 07:06:52 AM
House is looking great.  Must be very satisfying to hand build every inch of your tiny house.  I admire your initiative. How much has it cost you so far?

Thanks Pilgrim! It's been a journey to say the least. I've picked up a ton of useful skills along the way.
I would estimate that it's cost around 12-14k, including the solar/wind systems. I've been able to scavenge a lot of the wood so that has made a big difference. The basement definitely added to the cost but is worth it.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Nicodemus on October 10, 2014, 08:31:01 AM
I'm glad to see this project continuing. Things are looking great!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: ImNotGivngMyName2AMachine on December 09, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
I'm glad to see this project continuing. Things are looking great!

You jinxed him, now he isn't updating, heh.
Things ARE looking great, we love the updates, keep them coming!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on January 01, 2015, 07:17:25 PM
Sorry everyone! I don't get around to updating like I should, but with the cold weather maybe I'll get a chance to sit down put up some pics.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Cedar on January 01, 2015, 07:24:02 PM
Yes please.

Cedar
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: ncjeeper on January 01, 2015, 07:50:15 PM
Have you moved in yet?
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: deprogrammed on February 09, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
Really enjoyed following along! Can't wait for an update!
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Black November on June 25, 2015, 04:36:42 PM
This looks great.
(I am looking forward to seeing the finished home and approx final cost.)
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Oakie on September 16, 2015, 12:31:16 PM
I too would love to hear how things are going! I hope the heavy rains did not cause problems. Nothing worth doing is ever without setbacks though but hope they are minimal.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: OkieBoy on November 15, 2015, 02:59:36 PM
Just got a new computer, so maybe I'll get back to the updates!
Everything is going well, I am living in the house and am working on a root cellar now.
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: Montag 451 on December 29, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Very nice. Thanks for sharing your project with us.
                                                                        Montag 451
Title: Re: My Tiny House
Post by: bradleypaul75 on May 15, 2017, 06:38:35 PM
anything to update us on?