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Title: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Frugal Upstate on February 06, 2013, 04:33:09 PM
There is a big storm headed for the Northeast.  My area (near Binghamton NY) is forcast for about 6-10" right now. . . sounds like Boston could get slammed with up to 2 feet.

International Business Times: Winter Storm Nemo Brings Snow To Northeast US, Possible Blizzard Conditions Around Boston (http://www.ibtimes.com/winter-storm-nemo-brings-snow-weekend-northeast-us-possible-blizzard-conditions-around-boston)

So. . . who is in the path? What preps are you checking?  What are you noticing going on with those around you (ie when does the panic buying start!)? 
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: LICountryBoy on February 06, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
The weather report has changed about 10 times in the past 12 hours here on the island.
From a possible nothing to 2 feet plus.

Now I think it stands at 8-10 inches more up here on the north shore.

All I did was make sure we had milk for the baby and gas.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Mma800 on February 06, 2013, 05:01:40 PM
Bring it on Nemo! I am 15 miles outside of Boston, and am ready! I have a Region 1 thread started to watch for the panic.
I have my preps all ready for us. I love a good Blizzard!

We usually lose power for a while during high winds. Our generator, batteries, etc are all set. We have food water heat to last us a while. Outdoor preps are done. Fuel is topped off.
Cash is on hand. We-have-no-power station is set up in the family room ( we all hunker down there to keep warm/lit/entertained) Kids love a good storm too!
We will make cupcakes, valentines cards, read, knit, Legos, etc.

I will make a beef stew, bake bread, French toast. I pulled out some DVDs the kids have not seen for a while and I have tons of new books thanks to a library sale this past Monday. Nancy Drew, black beauty,etc.

Flashlights and radios are ready, everything is charged. BOBs are good and I even made a pee pee pad in the garage for the dog who hates inclimate weather.  Got crickets for the lizard and moved the bunny into the garage after cleaning the hutch.

Nemo, we are waiting!
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: antsyaunt on February 06, 2013, 05:39:55 PM
I live fairly close to Utica, NY.  The most recent forecast I saw predicted 5-9 inches for our area.  I have a planned grocery store trip tomorrow, and I imagine the store will be more crowded than usual.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Saint-TyR on February 06, 2013, 07:20:27 PM
No worries here in NH in the seacoast region! They say up to 20"+! We shall see...

Stay safe!
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Eriko on February 07, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
Here in Central NJ current forecast is 4-10". I topped of the gas in my car, hubby the body builder will be picking up his bananas & sweet potatoes today instead of over the weekend.  ;)
Other than that we are a-ok. I checked on my elderly neighbor to see if she needed food/milk/etc but she poopoo'd the storm.
I did notice a couple of people filling gas cans as I drove past several stations this morning.
(It does seem that since Sandy if we get even a kiss of wind the lights flicker or go out. I have a feeling that some of the very rushed patch jobs they did to get this area up & running are not as sturdy as they could be. Plus so many weakened trees/limbs  are still coming down.)
Tomorrow morning is a huge 2nd amendment rally in Trenton, I'm hoping the weather holds off long enough for us to get to demonstrate, before the state closes us down due to a "weather emergency".  >:(
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: fritz_monroe on February 07, 2013, 11:03:08 AM
This one is missing us in MD.  Gonna be North of me.

FrugalUpstate, I have friends in Endicott.  Not a bad area.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: LICountryBoy on February 07, 2013, 04:08:14 PM
The gas lines are starting to look like after sandy here on the island and the stores are probably starting to get crowded.
I just hope we don't lose power again. We lost it in the last storm we had at the end of January. only for about 12 hours or so but it seems
that as soon as the wind blows these days people lose power.

We shall see what happens.
I am ready to go. My boss already said to not even consider going in to the office. He said to work from home.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: ConcoursRider on February 07, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
I think (hope) we are ready to go for tomorrow. I'm in the "isolated 30 inches+" area, so this should be interesting. I did end up picking up a propane heater for the house, just in case, and I even bought the adapter to hook up the big tank worse case scenario. No generator, so I'm hoping we don't lose any power, especially with the threat of frozen pipes. Added a few more food items yesterday and avoided the panic rush. Got a bunch of extra batteries, car fuel tank is topped off, and now. . .we wait!

Good luck everyone!

-Chris
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Canadian Prepper on February 07, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
The storm has reached the Southern Ontario, Greater Toronto Area (GTA) this evening. Nothing too deep yet but undoubtedly slowing the commute home for many people. They are calling for 6-8" of snow which should slow down rush hour traffic, but unless someone has to travel far the sky isn't falling. I do not expect any grave likelihood of power loss.

The New York side of Lake Ontario often gets it a lot worst than us, though I get the impression that people on that side of the border are better prepared for this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Cordovil on February 07, 2013, 08:30:58 PM
Some observations from Northern NJ (where we were without power for ~ 2 weeks, including a 6 inch snowfall, during the aftermath of Sandy):

- lines for gasoline are already starting in my immediate neighborhood; I topped off my car and filled up the extra gas can (now I have a 2 week supply for my generator) a couple hours ago, and the guys working at the gas station said is has been "panic mode" since this afternoon; many people out filling up their cars and gas cans

- a friend at work told me his wife his the grocery store this AM and it was already packed;

My wife insisted on heading out the grocery store (she's come a long way toward appreciating our preps, but she insists she wants to pick up just some more meat to cook over the next few days . . . (if we lose power, we can just keep it cool in our cooler outside!)  I'm curious to hear how crowded the grocery store was once she returns.

In short, people in NJ are panicking a little earlier than usual.  I'd say the rush to the grocery store behavior is per usual; the gas panic is new though.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: DrJohn on February 07, 2013, 08:38:30 PM
We are forecasted to get 14 to 24 inches.  Nothing out of the ordinary going on here.  No run on stores, no gas lines, some school cancelations.  That's it.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: soccer grannie on February 07, 2013, 08:41:49 PM
We've had heavy rain all day in SC that just stopped. Local weatherman said it was moving out to sea. Is that the same storm the NE is gonna get? Also heard something about high tides & moon - predicting more beach erosion in NE.

At 11 pm, weatherman said we had over 3" of rain in past 24 hrs - that would equal a lot of snow.

Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Cordovil on February 07, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
NYC is sending out text/email alerts, like this one I just received (I work in NYC and live in NJ, so I am tuned into the NYC stuff too):

"Notification issued 2/7/13 at 9:35 PM. Mayor Bloomberg has issued a Severe Weather Advisory for a significant snowfall, forecast to begin tomorrow afternoon. The public is urged to avoid unnecessary travel, expect possible disruptions to public transportation, and stock up on potential supplies, including medicine."

I suggest that on some random, sunny Tuesday in March, the City should send out an alert for its citizens to "stock on on potential supplies, including medicine."  The night before the storm hits seems a little late for that advice.

 ???
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Mma800 on February 08, 2013, 01:39:00 AM
Grocery stores and home depot were a nightmare yesterday! No parking, shelves emptying fast! Home depot was sold out of generators.

I had my storm checklist and was able to get everything done, including some needed repairs to the generator. No need to leave the house at all today. Schools are cancelled. I may head out to home depot to see if I can get another propane tank for the buddy heater. Sounds like snow will start around noon here. Not a flake yet.

Only thing left to do is to charge up the electronics the kids used last night. I am actually glad my husband is out of town because he would be one of the people struggling to get home from work in the snow tonight. Stay warm everyone!
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: DrJohn on February 08, 2013, 06:57:40 AM
6 inches so far.  Drove the kids to school,as we are the only district still open.  Took me 35 minutes to get home, normally a 5 minute drive.  Silly rabbits that's why they make snow tires...
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Frugal Upstate on February 08, 2013, 07:16:03 AM
Silly rabbits that's why they make snow tires...

*slightly off topic*  We don't do snow tires here in NY's southern tier-the roads just don't get that bad--at least not with the crews out plowing and salting and such.  But it has occurred to me that if one wanted to be out and around in their diesel pickup for some reason and the roads were not being plowed frequently (or at all) for some reason. . . that as much of a pain as they are having an old fashioned set of tire chains might be a good idea for preps.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: ttubravesrock on February 08, 2013, 10:42:34 AM
I have chains + studded tires for one truck and chains + Blizzaks on the other. But I live in Alaska, so that's my excuse... side note: I have only needed to use the chains once in the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: LICountryBoy on February 08, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
We already had a 3 hour power outage.
Back up for now.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Frugal Upstate on February 08, 2013, 12:11:27 PM
We already had a 3 hour power outage.
Back up for now.

Good luck-I'm sure that the grid down by you is held together with spit and duct tape right now. . .
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: soccer grannie on February 08, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
Only thing left to do is to charge up the electronics the kids used last night.
I bought over a dozen of these several years ago for Christmas presents. It will charge anything you can charge in the car cig lighter with a car adapter (cell phones, kid's games, etc). Too late for 'this' storm but still a good item to have in any power outage.
Flashlight & Charger: http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_CL%20L330_A_name_E_The%20Charger%E2%84%A2%20Emergency%20Hand%20Crank%20Flashlight%20with%20Mobile%20Phone%20Adapter
Flashlight, Charger & Radio: http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_CL%20L530_A_name_E_Wavelength+Emergency+Radio%2C+Charger+%26+Flashlight
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Cedar on February 08, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
the gas panic is new though.

Learned behavior from the Sandy gas shortage aftermath?

Cedar
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: LICountryBoy on February 08, 2013, 02:14:15 PM
A bunch of the gas stations around here are closed since they have no more gas.
We are at close to an inch of snow and coming down pretty good.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: GrizzlyAdams on February 08, 2013, 04:39:45 PM
My wife and I went through Hurricane Irene (lost power for 7 days) and Hurricane Sandy (lost power for 8 days).   Those 2 events really helped us be prepared.   Since Hurricane Sandy hit, we have made the following adjustments that should help with Nemo in the event of an outage.

Honda eu2000i Generator
We purchased this generator and it is awesome!  It is very quiet, and very fuel efficient.  We are using this as our generator for "nice to haves" since it is so good on fuel.  We will use this to power the TV, DVD, and coffee maker.

More Fuel
Sandy taught us how important it is to be rotating fuel, and to have some in storage.  It seems like many people in NJ have purchased gasoline generators.  During Sandy, and even today during Nemo, there were lines at the gas station because people were filling many empty gas cans.  Since Sandy we have increased our fuel storage, and rotate it each month which means we did not have to wait in any lines today.

Steve Harris Battery Backup
We bought Steve's video and built the battery backup.  It is a great video, and very easy to do as the video is very detailed.  We have 300ah of battery power and a 1600 watt inverter.  This setup will be used at night rather than running the generator.  During Hurricane Sandy, people were stealing generators at night.  There were reports of some generators that were destroyed when the thieves could not cut through the chains or cables.  It was just too risky to be running them at night.  As Steve and Jack say "Go silent, and go deep".  This 300ah backup system is for that purpose.

D Batteries
After Sandy we purchased plenty of D batteries and rechargeable D batteries.  During Sandy, you could not find D batteries anywhere.

Amazon Prime
I wish we would of had this during Sandy as we could have used it to get gas cans.  During Sandy, there were no gas cans anywhere and had I known about this service I could have possibly gotten gas cans.  We have signed up for this service and think that it is great.  It is very cool to order items from Amazon, pay nothing for shipping, and get what you ordered in 2 days.

Replace light bulbs
We have replaced almost all the light bulbs with CFLs or LED bulbs.  The biggest reason for this is because at night during Sandy we were running off of a deep-cycle marine battery, and realized the importance of counting every watt.   

Anyone else make any changes since Sandy and are now better prepared for Nemo?

GA


Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Nicodemus on February 08, 2013, 04:56:08 PM
Stay safe, everyone!
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Cordovil on February 08, 2013, 07:12:20 PM
GrizzlyAdams, it sounds like you've made some very key steps toward preparing; I almost felt like I was reading one of my own posts (just in my case, substitute Yamaha for your Honda).

Well done.  Your post reminds me I need to pick up a few more D batteries . . .
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Cordovil on February 08, 2013, 07:14:49 PM
Just a few inches of snow here so far, but it has been icing/hailing for a while, so we're just hoping the tree limbs and power lines hold up.  My biggest hope is that all of the weakest trees/limbs came crashing down during Sandy, so that we make it through this one without a power outage.


My wife said it was pretty crowded at our quiet little supermarket last night around 11 (when she left).  We both got a chuckle out of this one:

http://youtu.be/i6zaVYWLTkU

Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Saint on February 08, 2013, 08:05:15 PM
I'm on north shore of Long Island - literally just finished two weeks active duty in DC, flight home canxd, so I got a rental car and drove. Made it home a few hours ago, heavy snow and slush all over. Wife already had the wood stacked and fire going. We lost power at 8pm (we'd lost power for 11 days during Sandy). Lights out kit was ready, got some candles going, I started shoveling to make a nice spot for the generator...and the power is back.
Gonna sit back, enjoy a homebrew and wait another hour or two before calling it a night.
We're at about 18 inches, drifts to 30, sleet and frozen rain base created a lot of ice under the snow.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Cordovil on February 08, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
We lost power at 8pm (we'd lost power for 11 days during Sandy). Lights out kit was ready, got some candles going, I started shoveling to make a nice spot for the generator...and the power is back.

That's good to hear, Saint.  After 11 days without power during Sandy, I'm sure another power outage during cold weather is the last thing you want to deal with right now.  Hang in there.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: liftsboxes on February 09, 2013, 06:50:03 AM
18" of light drifty stuff here in SoNH.  Wood stove is nice and hot, bacon cooking, bread baking ... wait, that's a normal Saturday morning around here.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539646_501395919902802_89831153_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Thox Spuddy on February 09, 2013, 08:06:03 AM
A good reason to prep: http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/10009804244113/gov-patrick-bans-vehicle-traffic-as-storm-hits/ (http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/10009804244113/gov-patrick-bans-vehicle-traffic-as-storm-hits/)
Title: Some pictures of Nemo and some thoughts. . .
Post by: MustangMike on February 09, 2013, 07:53:53 PM
(http://www.thebackyardpioneer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/NemoMA1-300x199.jpg)
(http://www.thebackyardpioneer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/MikesRt25RS.jpg)

I’m a Long Islander, I’m not always a happy Long Islander but it is my birthplace and I’ve lived here for 39 years now. So I feel I need to step up and defend my fellow Islanders in the eyes of the Prepping/Survival community. This storm was like nothing I’ve seen in all my years of living in the Northeast. It came on so fast and with such ferocity that even as some one who styles himself a Prepared person, I was taken aback at how fast the situation went down the tubes.

 

When I left for work at 6AM we were forecasted to get 6?-12? ,with the height of the storm in the early evening after the rush hour commute. While I was at work the forecast changed dramatically but the light rain we were getting led no one to believe how crazy things would get. I think what really went wrong was the weather in NYC and the more western suburbs was just not jiving with the weather report. When people got out of work and started home they left into a drizzle that turned nasty as they headed east.

At 2:40 I was on the South Shore and it wasn’t that bad, but I did notice that it was getting a bit slushy out. I left the garage at 3:15 and started my trek home. My usual 12 mile commute took an hour and a half. I bailed out on the main roads as they were already getting nuts. I ended up on the side roads in a white knuckle 4×4 ride through the neighborhoods of Holbrook, Holtsville, Selden, and Coram. I came over the worst hills on Long Island and I was puckered tight. I went through the snow wall into my neighborhood like a freakin’ Jeep commercial. I was glad to be home.

The cars stuck on County Route 83 were following the plows up the hill until the plows themselves went off the road. The Police were there and told the stuck that they would back them down the hill in an orderly manner when traffic subsided. After 4 hours the cops told people “Good luck, you’re on your own.” Now we find ourselves in a situation where the lighter plow trucks can’t move the snow and the stalled cars are blocking the heavier equipment from getting through.

So for all those out there Monday Morning Quarterbacks out there, this was a freak storm for Eastern Suffolk County. Critique the fact that a lot of suffering and anxiety could have been avoided by having some basic vehicle preps or a Get Home Bag, but don’t be so smug to think it couldn’t happen to you. If you are so in tune with things that you’d never get caught why bother with the Car Kits, EDC, or Get Home Bags? Instead of laughing and pointing, or the name calling why not try to educate someone on why or how to prepare?

What do you think?
Title: Re: Some pictures of Nemo and some thoughts. . .
Post by: Cedar on February 09, 2013, 08:44:03 PM
And this is why I ran sled dogs  ;)

Actually if I know there is going to be a bad storm I stay holed up if I can. Once I got caught in a blizzard in Canada on my way home from work and although we were only able to go 5 MPH as we could not see the ditch or other vehicles coming the other way until their headlights were even with yours, but you had to keep going as there was nowhere to pull off or see where to pull off. That was good for me. The rest of my winters I kept my overnight gear (as well as my BOB) in my truck so I could sleep on the floor at work if need be.

Glad you made it home and thank you for the pics as I am not near a TV these days and is not able to see what that Nemo brought.

Cedar
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Thox Spuddy on February 09, 2013, 09:09:56 PM
I have to say I don't miss that east coast attitude  ;)
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: Canadian Prepper on February 09, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
Mustang Mike,

You raise some valid points in your post. Up here in the Toronto area the snow began Thursday night after rush hour and got heavy on Friday (especially late morning/early afternoon) dumping a foot of snow on us. The outlying school districts shut down but for the most part people simply had a longer commute to and from work. A friend of mine even managed to travel to Pearson Intl Airport to pick up a relative that flew in from Western Canada, which meant that he went down our busiest highway, the 401.

From what I can tell, we're lucky, as upstate NY appears to have really gotten the worst of it, with depths that would have seriously challenged us here, and unless people were warned with enough notice simply to stay at home, I cannot see any real way around what you've described, though I'm sure that many of the stranded motorists wish they'd had a good car kit and extra supplies at home.

Though we generally don't have to worry too much about getting a foot of snow (besides reconsidering commute times or work schedules) there's certainly good reason to invest in the preps recommended by Steve Harris and/or the utility of a generator.  I'm certainly hoping to get to that level over the longer term, and will be otherwise prepared for at least temporary outages in the meantime.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: LICountryBoy on February 10, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
I'm on north shore of Long Island - literally just finished two weeks active duty in DC, flight home canxd, so I got a rental car and drove. Made it home a few hours ago, heavy snow and slush all over. Wife already had the wood stacked and fire going. We lost power at 8pm (we'd lost power for 11 days during Sandy). Lights out kit was ready, got some candles going, I started shoveling to make a nice spot for the generator...and the power is back.
Gonna sit back, enjoy a homebrew and wait another hour or two before calling it a night.
We're at about 18 inches, drifts to 30, sleet and frozen rain base created a lot of ice under the snow.

You guys got pretty hammered out there, and I am not talking because of the home brew.
I am west of you in Nassau on the North Shore and we got around 15 - 18 so we did ok in comparison. Most of the roads aren't too bad. It depends on the municipality that handles the plowing.

We lost power Friday morning and my thought was "Here we go again."
It was back by 2 and stayed on.
Title: Re: Winter Storm Nemo (Possible N'or Easter / Blizzard)
Post by: LBSurfer on February 10, 2013, 02:32:04 PM
28" here in western/central Suffolk County with no plowed roads until about 7pm last night.  No power loss, so that's not too bad.  Definitely no where near the problems we had with Sandy.  We're going to see the big problems tomorrow when we get warm weather and rain.  Flooding is going to be a bitch.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/860091_10151320032084615_786116646_o.jpg)