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Title: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Hypax on August 05, 2014, 07:40:43 AM
I ordered from Coe's after Jacks show (ep 1371) and paid via PayPal. To date I have NOT received the plants, nor had any contact from Coe's.
I have emailed, no response and called the number on their website. After an automated message I get disconnected.
At this point I don't expect to see the product or a refund.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: TexasGirl on August 05, 2014, 07:58:30 AM
I ordered from Coe's after Jacks show (ep 1371) and paid via PayPal. To date I have NOT received the plants, nor had any contact from Coe's.
I have emailed, no response and called the number on their website. After an automated message I get disconnected.
At this point I don't expect to see the product or a refund.

I've ordered from Coe's before.  Keep in mind he's basically a one-man-show.  Might be on vacation, could be something beyond his control like stuck in the hospital.  He's not the kind of person that would take your money and run.  He will probably stuff your box with extra goodies because of the delay, unless you left butthole messages.

Just be patient.

~TG
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: never_retreat on August 05, 2014, 08:41:54 AM
How long ago did you order?
I do e commerace for a living, and if you send me 3 emails an hour apart in the middle of the night you go down the list for being answered. Especially if they keep saying why are you not answering me.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Hypax on August 05, 2014, 08:58:29 AM
order placed June 23.
no butthole messages or emails.
just asked for an update after a month of no contact, got no response, and unable to reach them by phone.
Patience is not a problem.
 
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: r_w on August 05, 2014, 09:26:40 AM
major email provider? 

We have had a ton of problems with spamfilters and certain email domains. 
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: jnpg on August 05, 2014, 09:50:34 AM
He can be quite slow- but always calls me when sending.... hang in there.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: TexasGirl on August 05, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
He can be quite slow- but always calls me when sending.... hang in there.

Hi jnpg, welcome to the forum!

When you get a chance, stroll over to the "Front Porch" thread and introduce yourself.

~TG
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mountainmoma on August 05, 2014, 06:41:50 PM
he is no doubt just innundated, Im sure he will get you your plants

I dont remember how long my order took, but I knew he is just a one man operation
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: flippydidit on August 05, 2014, 07:48:25 PM
We ordered from him about a month ago and after no communication our package showed up one day filled with extra goodies.  He's a great resource, but we have to remember that plants are not like books or other items that can just be pulled off a shelf in a warehouse.  It takes time to prepare a live plant from the soil for shipping.  There are seasons and maturity to deal with.  He does a great job, but does need our understanding.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Hypax on August 06, 2014, 01:16:23 PM
Got a voice mail message from Coe's. Stating still a few days before order goes out but as folks have said he is padding the order.
I did not expect there would be such a back log. My intent was to advise of an unusual (in MHO) delay. From their website, I had no idea how much of a "mom & pop" operation this was. That being the case, I am quite happy to wait for the order. 
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: stry67 on August 08, 2014, 07:39:09 PM
I ordered from him as well in 3rd week of July. Guess I gotta be patient too. So how long should patience wait? 1 Month?
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mrlenja on August 08, 2014, 11:26:53 PM
My order took a few weeks, seems longer when I'm anxious to get it. Once the order arrives, I was [am] very happy with the quality. He's a small family operation that got a huge number of orders from Jack's podcast. Be patient and you'll enjoy the results.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: r_w on August 09, 2014, 07:02:07 AM
I have waited months from other comfrey sellers.  Sometimes they get rushes of orders-Jack isn't Oprah but he will still overwhelm most suppliers if suggests a source or product.  Sometimes you just have to wait for the weather or the stock to grow.  Sometimes life happens and one man shows have to wait for the man to get out of the hospital.  It happens and we need to remember not every internet store is Amazon, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: r3dbeard on August 09, 2014, 08:02:12 AM
Just an FYI, I placed an order on 5-3 and received my order at the end of July. Over the course of my 3 month wait, I called Coe twice and he told me both times that he should be getting to crowns (my order was 25 crowns) in a week.

I get that he is super busy and has too many orders and not enough time AND I really wanted my comfrey, but three months is a long time. My only hope is that Coe will continue to do this well and is able to either do this full time and/or hire on more staff.

That being said, I would still order from him in the future. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: vardaman on August 09, 2014, 08:21:06 AM
He (Coe) put extra cuttings in mine and a handwritten note thanking me. It's just a small cottage industry. You'll get your order, but he isn't amazon. Relax, have a home brew...
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: The Scottsy on August 09, 2014, 08:35:57 AM
I paid for some cutting on 7/3 and haven't seen anything from him yet.  I only live about 80 miles from his place, so I can't imagine it's shipping. 
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: stry67 on August 09, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
Yes I realize the poor guy is over-whelmed and with the above posts, I dont feel better. I was hoping to get this in the ground and producing before winter but not if its gonna take 3 months before I see them.
Perhaps he should put some kinda notice on his website letting people know how long for orders to ship out?
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Hypax on August 11, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
Got the order Saturday, so a bit over 2 months. As others have said, he padded the order with cuttings and a couple of dvd's.
He left some voice mail, and my guess is, he is overwhelmed as a few folks have suggested.
Knowing that now, I would still buy from this southern gentleman again and not have a problem waiting.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mateo8835 on August 16, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
Placed my order June 23, had been kind of concerned until I saw this thread a couple weeks ago. After that, I wasn't too worried. Got a call from him last night, said he would be sending out in a week or two and that it would include extra cuttings and some other goodies like dvd's . Seems like a very nice fellow and if everything comes through ok, I have no problem waiting and giving him my business again.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Sweethearts Mom on August 16, 2014, 07:19:31 PM
So what are other options for purchasing comfrey?
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: flippydidit on August 16, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
It looks like one of the forum sponsors sells it as well.  I've never ordered from them though.

http://marshcreekfarmstead.blogspot.com/p/items-for-sale.html (http://marshcreekfarmstead.blogspot.com/p/items-for-sale.html)
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Svdividedsky on March 02, 2015, 09:57:44 AM
I ordered some comfrey from this guy. Haven't planted the comfrey yet but I was not so happy to recive full blown Nazi Propaganda with my order. Some people tLked about the DVDs he sends which were a little weird but fine. I dislike the gov more than most folks but I draw the line at the racest trash that he sent. The newspaper was calling for segregation and trumpeting the national socialist party. All I wanted was comfrey. I will not be ordering g from him again.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: endurance on March 02, 2015, 10:31:24 AM
I ordered some comfrey from this guy. Haven't planted the comfrey yet but I was not so happy to recive full blown Nazi Propaganda with my order. Some people tLked about the DVDs he sends which were a little weird but fine. I dislike the gov more than most folks but I draw the line at the racest trash that he sent. The newspaper was calling for segregation and trumpeting the national socialist party. All I wanted was comfrey. I will not be ordering g from him again.
Interesting.  I haven't ordered from him in quite a while (several years) and I chucked the stuff he included without even looking.  Thanks for the update.  It is quite concerning.  There's certainly other sources available, including other folks who have ordered in the past.  Once the snow melts, I'll be happy to send folks some root stock.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mountainmoma on March 02, 2015, 10:51:44 AM
Interesting.  I haven't ordered from him in quite a while (several years) and I chucked the stuff he included without even looking.  Thanks for the update.  It is quite concerning.  There's certainly other sources available, including other folks who have ordered in the past.  Once the snow melts, I'll be happy to send folks some root stock.

Maybe he has changed what he is sending out, I did not see any nazi propaganda last year
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: endurance on March 02, 2015, 11:01:18 AM
I ordered some comfrey from this guy. Haven't planted the comfrey yet but I was not so happy to recive full blown Nazi Propaganda with my order. Some people tLked about the DVDs he sends which were a little weird but fine. I dislike the gov more than most folks but I draw the line at the racest trash that he sent. The newspaper was calling for segregation and trumpeting the national socialist party. All I wanted was comfrey. I will not be ordering g from him again.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.  Stop by the Front Porch (https://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=89) and introduce yourself.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: d3nni5 on March 02, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
I ordered some comfrey from this guy. Haven't planted the comfrey yet but I was not so happy to recive full blown Nazi Propaganda with my order. Some people tLked about the DVDs he sends which were a little weird but fine. I dislike the gov more than most folks but I draw the line at the racest trash that he sent. The newspaper was calling for segregation and trumpeting the national socialist party. All I wanted was comfrey. I will not be ordering g from him again.

I do not want to hijack the thread but I tripped across something similar last night.   I like to listen to a shortwave radio station from Nashville on 4840.   It is the Worldwide Christian Radio network.   I tune in at night sometimes to listen to Alex Jones, The Power Hour or some of the religious broadcasts they have over night.   It's a toss up between this and C2C AM.

To my surprise last night, the gentlemen from King Identity Ministry were spouting the same crap.   Very anti-Semitic, very white power....very much NOT my thing.   I turned it off.

I know it is not the same as getting it w/ your comfrey order, but the point is similar.  This otherwise enjoyable radio station suckerpunched my ears with this crap last night.   I've never heard it on there before.   Could it be that the only way they get their message out is to subvert another avenue of communication?  Trick you into hearing their message?
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: SusanG on March 02, 2015, 05:40:01 PM
I ordered some comfrey from this guy. 

Just to clarify - "this guy" is the marshcreekfarmstead.blogspot.com person?  Your post was right after this one:

 
It looks like one of the forum sponsors sells it as well.  I've never ordered from them though.

http://marshcreekfarmstead.blogspot.com/p/items-for-sale.html (http://marshcreekfarmstead.blogspot.com/p/items-for-sale.html)

If that's the person, then maybe the forum admins would like to know he is spewing racist crap.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: TexDaddy on March 02, 2015, 06:03:33 PM
Just to clarify - "this guy" is the marshcreekfarmstead.blogspot.com person?...
No. "this guy" is http://www.coescomfrey.com/comfrey.html

So far, we just have this one report of racist material accompanying his shipments.

The mods would like to hear from more than one person. The person making the complaint is a brand new member with a very low post count.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Svdividedsky on March 02, 2015, 06:51:42 PM
Sorry "this guy" is Coe's Cumfrey. The newspaper he sent was called "the first freedom". Published by a guy in Alabama named Olaf Childress. He clams not to be a white supremacist but a white separatist. the articles sure sound like white supremacy referring to blacks and Jews as "mud people". Another article says ayran people are as different from other races as a chicken and a wolf. It Was in the news a while back because  Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston Bomer ,had a copy in his apartment.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 02, 2015, 08:24:21 PM
Thanks for this info, Svdividedsky.  I took a look at "The First Freedom" website, and it's exactly as disgusting you describe.

We do take this sort of stuff very seriously.  I assume there's no chance the newspaper was sent by mistake?  Used as packing material?  (Yeah, I know, but I have to ask.)
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: TexasGirl on March 02, 2015, 11:55:15 PM
I bought from Coe's last season and he included a few DVD's.  None of them were "Extremist" or "Nazi" in nature.  There wasn't a newsletter in the package.

There were however extra packages of root stock along with a nice note stating he included extra for free.  Based upon my personal experience, I'll gladly reorder from him.

~TG
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mxitman on March 03, 2015, 05:44:42 AM
I just saw this and I ordered some cuttings last year, he did include extra's in the box...a set of dvd's and the same newspaper as mentioned, it sickened me to be honest. I personally wouldn't order again. It's his agenda but I don't need to support it.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: ModernSurvival on March 03, 2015, 03:29:22 PM
I have ordered several times, he has included consipircy stuff (911 is an inside job) but nothing white separatist.  Can someone send me a scan of exactly what was sent, if I am going to write this guy off I need to be sure. 
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: R_Morgan on March 03, 2015, 04:41:13 PM
Once I get up and running ill sell anyone comfrey, guaranteed nazi free!  What a tagline!
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Svdividedsky on March 03, 2015, 04:59:17 PM
I don't think it was packing or a mistake. That's the first thing I thought because really who would send this out as part of their business plan. I am white but he had know way of knowing that. I could have been a black Jew for all he knew. It wasn't just a few pages stuffed in the bag. It was the whole paper neatly folded.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mxitman on March 04, 2015, 09:56:38 AM
Yea, I looked the paper over to see if it was something maybe he made, but was printed in another state and you could buy extra copies to give out and such. I wish I would have kept it, but found it more suited as a fire starter.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: R_Morgan on March 05, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
Jack. Did you get any word on this from coe or others?
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: whiterussiansp on May 13, 2015, 08:53:10 AM
I just got my order from Coe a few days ago (within a week of when he told me to expect it).

Included in the order were these DVDs:

Genetic Roulette: The Gamble of our Lives
Seeds of Freedom: Health Risks and Politics of GMO
What and Why are Spraying (chemtrails)
A Forest Garden Year
Organic Gardening Made Easy
TSP episode 1185 (15 perennials)
"Permaculture Videos" (17 items)

Papers included:

Thank you form
FDA comic
Fair Use law (for the DVDs)
Comfrey Brochure
Order form
Comfrey tips

The order also included 10 bonus cuttings.

Honestly, it was one of the most disorganized packages I've ever gotten from a business, but Coe seems pretty old-school, non-tech (he has a guy that does his emails for him)...he's obviously gone through a lot of manual labor to put all this together when it could have been done 10 other much easier and cheaper ways.  I tossed the whole package because the info was on his site and I've either seen or don't care to see all of the videos.  Nothing seemed racist to me, but one of the papers mentioned getting different DVDs on my next order from his library of 500, so maybe I just lucked out.

Before ordering, I called Coe and he spent 10-15 minutes discussing the selection and planting etc.  I requested a ship date of May 1 (a few months later).  My order shipped sometime between May 1 and May 7 and I got another 3 min voicemail from Coe letting me know to expect it.

Overall I felt like I got more than I paid for and the service was great. Is Coe a little odd? Probably.  But I don't think he's pushing a Nazi agenda or anything. He should probably use a little more discernment with the free stuff he includes, but that's about all I'd say he's guilty of.  Maybe he got a slap on the wrist already for the Nazi stuff and isn't including it anymore, good enough for me since what he believes or subscribes to really isn't that big a deal either way.

I'm guessing his business has really grown since Jack suggested him on-air and hopefully he's through most of the pain of that process by now. He's a good source for Comfrey and appears to be an accessible expert on it...I'd wait for more info on this before cutting him off, if at all.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: scoob on May 13, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
Just got my order too.  Pretty much the same as the White Russian above, including the literature, dvds, and extra cuttings.  No issues with customer service.  I didn't make, request, nor receive a single phone call.  I just placed the order, and a month later got a shipping notification email and everything just showed up. 

I'm happy.
See?  This is my happy face  :-|

Seriously, I'd order from Coe's again.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: Mr. Bill on May 13, 2015, 03:44:14 PM
Thanks for the reports.
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: artephius on July 02, 2015, 07:54:45 AM
I just had to chime in on this one and add my report. I ordered some 1 or two year plants from coe last year and he called me the next day to tell me the ground was still frozen and it might be a few weeks before he could dig them up.

He also was short on what I ordered and offered to send a bunch of crowns and cuttings instead -- which I was fine with. He also asked if I was interested in any particular subjects as he likes to send dvds out with orders. So I told him I was into permaculture and ended up chatting with him for 20 minutes or so about random things - he seems like a great guy.

It did take a while to arrive, but when I got my order I was pleasantly surprised to find he sent me nearly twice as many cuttings as he said he would and a bunch of permaculture/organic gardening related dvds! He sent me so many cuttings I didn't even know what to do with them all and ended up letting some die!

I never got the slightest impression there was anything racist about him, maybe a little bit of a tin foil hat but hey I have a small one too sometimes :)
All in all I'd definitely reccommend him as long as you don't want your comfrey tomorrow...
Title: Re: Coe's Comfrey - order warning
Post by: mountainmoma on May 03, 2017, 08:56:35 AM
Ok, here is 2 years later. No other reports of  inappropriate written  material.

Looking this over, the main complaint was from a new user, that did not continue here, that just joined here to complain about COe's Comfrey. Although, 1 other user seems to have also said there was an alarming newsletter ?

My guess is that during the time is was overwhelmed he had some hired help that slipped in this material with the usual conspiracy and permaculture stuff.

I did order from him again a few months ago, great cuttings, rooted well, great packaging and customer service. DVD add ons were mostly gardening with 1 or 2 conspiracy, there was a 9-11 dvd. 

I realy think this is a good vendor that can be used with confidence by any of us