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Title: Getting family involved
Post by: Possenti2264 on May 04, 2009, 08:53:59 AM
I've been prepping for nearly a year, and my family has used the the ever irritating line of, "We know where we're going in case of emergency."  It didn't use to bother my wife, because she gives everyone the benefit of the doubt, but yesterday she got defensive about it.  She sees that I spend nearly every afternoon and evening past dark working on our 1100sq ft veggie garden, making lists, buying storage food, reading, researching, practicing dry-fire exercises, etc.  I told my family yesterday that they were going to have to start stocking their own canned food (to which my brother's wife responded "we're on a low sodium diet").  I love my sister-in-law, but comments like that irritate me to no end.  I shot back, "you're not gonna care when you're starving to death."  I said I only have enough food for my wife and I for two months and they all need to start buying their own long-term stored food. 

Does anyone have any advice, personal experience with this problem? 
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: cdunlop on May 05, 2009, 05:14:55 AM
I am in the same boat; I suggest you continue your preps, balance prepping and home responsibilities, and if it does all hit the fan, then worry about you and your wife.
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Call on May 06, 2009, 07:03:34 PM
Unfortunately your point may only ever be truly made during the course of an actual emergency. Other posters here have noted that many times their spouses don't even realize they managed to make it through an event only because of their partner's hard work and planning.

Make it a "hobby", not an obsession. Don't spend all your time on preps or make it a topic of every conversation. Don't try to convince her to join in; you couldn't get me to knit if you tried, no matter what the enticement. Putter away at it until you reach your goal, and then go into maintainance at that point. I know once I shut up about prepping, and got over the initial hump of spending and storing, my wife was much more supportive and far less irritated!
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Winchester32 on May 06, 2009, 07:22:56 PM
Your only concern is to you and your wife.  If the rest are capable adults and you have offered them the tools to make their way, then they will either do it or starve to death.  It's their choice either way.  It may sound harsh, but people like that can take others down with them. 
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: rustyknife on May 06, 2009, 09:19:11 PM
What you describe is a subject many of us may face at some point. My brothers have said about the same thing, " if TSHTF we're coming to your house". Unfortunately one lives in Florida and the other in Alabama so it may take them some time to get here dragging their family and stuff. They both live like there's nothing to worry about and it frustrates me to no end.  We have since stopped talking to them about these issues and more or less excluded them from being aware of how much we have prep'd. When the subject comes up I always turn it around on them and ask "what did you do today to prep?" I also like the idea of "balance".  Give your self and your family a little time out once in awhile. That will also make you look better in the long run as you won't look wildly out of control spending every waking moment on prep'g. IMHO.
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Tactical Badger on May 06, 2009, 09:45:44 PM
The only words of encouragement I can give are...You're not alone. The inlaws all know we prep and have said the same thing.  Some of them will be welcome, others will be turned away at the business end of a shotgun if need be.

I have said "Make sure you bring every canned good and roll of toilet paper in your house if you do show up." Hoping to get the whole "ticket" subject started.  But, if it ever comes down to it, I'm almost positive they'll show up empty-handed.

It's frustrating I know.  Especially since we do everything we can to encourage them to do SOMETHING towards getting prepared.  And we hear the same excuses..."but canned food is loaded with salt." Idiots!

Having more people around is not the end of the world though.  In a TSHTF situation, you're going to need more hands. If for no other reason than to stand watch so you can get some sleep.  But, they need to know who's running the show.  The guy who had the intelligence to actually prep for it.

And I have used the whole, "You know we're going to have to feed your whole family" line to my wife to justify buying more supplies.
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: P_Coltrane on May 06, 2009, 10:17:36 PM
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if it ever comes down to it, I'm almost positive they'll show up empty-handed.

This is not directed exclusively at you TB since most in this thread -- and probably most on this forum -- face similar possibilities.

This is just a different way to look at the situation. Taking into account the threat matrix, having friends and relatives who know about your preps no become a high possibility and high impact threat in a SHTF scenario.  Wouldn't a true prepper (who seemingly is aware beforehand reference the quote) prepare for such a situation?  I am not saying I would do this but it seems to me that for a few more dollars you could help the "idiots" who mocked you rather than face the unimaginable alternative of having to turn away at gunpoint or even shoot a friend or loved one. If the SHTF and they don't show up, well then I guess your preps will last even longer.  After all, Jack likes to say the object of survival is to not just live through it and keep breathing, but to live well.

Again, I am not saying one way or the other. This is just a different way to look at prepping for all situations.

Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Tactical Badger on May 07, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Trust me.  Part of my planning is knowing that I am going to have to take care of family members who have not taken it upon themselves to prepare at all.

But, like I said before, some of them will be very welcome.  I have two inlaws that are ER nurses.  I don't care if they bring anything at all.  They'll be a great asset.

Others, will want to form a prayer circle and beg God to help us.  They're not so welcome. ;D
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Possenti2264 on May 07, 2009, 07:19:53 AM
I put together an email the other day which I sent to my in-town family members.  The email consisted of a picture of a food safe bucket, pic of airtight lid, and links to both from www.BePrepared.com, with a price list.  I told them each household must have at least two 5-gallon buckets with rice, beans, or pasta, just to start. 

My dad and my brother are taking an interest in guns, and each own a handgun, but I'm trying to get them each to buy a long gun.  I have an 870 with 18 1/2" barrel and a several boxes of turkey and buckshot and lever action 30-30, so at least we have a little more firepower than the .38revolver and .40sw they have.  They talk about wanting long guns for home defense, but have yet to invest in any. 

I'm not worried that they'll be unwilling to help out if the SHTF, but I can't feed the whole family. 
 
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Chris Redfield on May 07, 2009, 07:21:15 AM
+1 for Tactical Badger ... and having dealt with an angry badger or two I wouldn't want to face one with any semblance of tactics. :D

I'd be more concerned with family, in-laws, or friends telling their family, in-laws, or friends, and then we start the snowball effect. Being asked to take in my parents-in-law if TSHTF? No problem. Being asked to take in my parents-in-law and their seven friends and their families and having sixty people standing on my stoop? Big problem. >:(
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: P_Coltrane on May 07, 2009, 07:29:21 AM
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and having sixty people standing on my stoop? Big problem. Angry
In complete agreement with you there.  If I have never been close enough to any of these people to talk about preps, I sure as hell am not going to share what I can't spare.  That group would be nothing more than potential looters with names.
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: Tactical Badger on May 07, 2009, 07:47:12 AM
Very true.  I do try and keep a fairly low profile about my preps.  It's pretty hard to hide that basement full of food from the inlaws though.

Even if no one knew about your preps when TSHTF, it wouldn't be long before EVERYONE does know.  If you're eating while everyone around you is starving, it's going to be pretty obvious.  There's no way to keep that a secret for very long.  And, if it isn't people you know trying to beg supplies, it could very well be the government trying to take them forcibly.

Same with having a generator, or gasoline stored, or...well...you get the point.
Title: Re: Getting family involved
Post by: P_Coltrane on May 07, 2009, 08:06:49 AM
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if it isn't people you know trying to beg supplies, it could very well be the government trying to take them forcibly.

While I do not trust the government as far as I can throw them, I personally do not see them coming for my meager supply of preps. I can't see the sense in that. If they showed up on the door step, I tend to believe they would be after people rather than my green beans.

My personal opinion on ill-prepared family members is they should know better ( and  most of my family does).  My concern with the situation is; I intend for me and my immediate family members to survive.  When we do make it through the crisis and things are returning to normalcy or something close to it, do I really want to have to live with my wife and kids harboring ill feelings because we sent someone close to us out on their own?  And let's say they survive as well, then we have the potential of an unrepairable rift that has been developed that we have to live with for the rest of our lives.

It's just my opinion, but I feel it is just one more situation to consider when it comes to preparedness.