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Title: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: stevebluff on October 20, 2008, 02:26:16 PM
A quick review of some of the books in my library.

Note:
a) these are not in any particlular order
b) contains some "spoilers"  

1.  The Postman, (David Brin). Quite a bit of interesting info on how communities may develop post collapse.  Almost totally different to the film.  Good read.
http://www.amazon.com/Postman-Bantam-Classics-David-Brin/dp/0553278746/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949255&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Postman-Bantam-Classics-David-Brin/dp/0553278746/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949255&sr=1-1)

2.  Lucifers Hammer (Jerry Pournelle), brilliant, can't read it often enough
http://www.amazon.com/Lucifers-Hammer-Larry-Niven/dp/0449208133/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949351&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Lucifers-Hammer-Larry-Niven/dp/0449208133/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949351&sr=1-1)

3.  Alas Babylon (Pat Frank), Much, much better than I expected or hoped. Really surprised how few skills (home canning for instance) were already lost in the 50's, it could easily describe 2008! Recommended
http://www.amazon.com/Alas-Babylon-Pat-Frank/dp/0060741872/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949387&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Alas-Babylon-Pat-Frank/dp/0060741872/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949387&sr=1-1)

4.  I am legend (Richard Matheson), apart from the vampires, interesting account of one man's survival after a "pandemic". Not a feel good book but worth reading
http://www.amazon.com/I-Am-Legend-Richard-Matheson/dp/B001FOR5XU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949423&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/I-Am-Legend-Richard-Matheson/dp/B001FOR5XU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949423&sr=1-1)

5.  On the beach - to be reviewed
http://www.amazon.com/Beach-Vintage-International-Nevil-Shute/dp/0307473996/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949460&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Beach-Vintage-International-Nevil-Shute/dp/0307473996/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949460&sr=1-1)

6.  Earth Abides (George R. Stewart). Post plague, which kill 99% of the population, very well written. interesting exploration of the main man's dotage and the change in the society of his grandchildren. Initial way he keeps his little community together quite good. Worth reading
http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Abides-George-R-Stewart/dp/0345487133/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949907&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Abides-George-R-Stewart/dp/0345487133/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949907&sr=1-1)

7.  Patriot, surviving the coming collapse (James Wesley Rawles). Good read. I think the war with the UN at the end goes a bit too far.  Lots of good tips.  A bit tin foil hat in places but enjoyable none the less. Worth a read.
http://www.amazon.com/Patriots-Surviving-James-Wesley-Rawles/dp/156975599X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949951&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Patriots-Surviving-James-Wesley-Rawles/dp/156975599X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294949951&sr=1-1)

8.  eXtinction (Ray Hammond).  Catastrophic global weather change, a small committing survive on earth, space stations and the moon. A bit heavy going.
http://www.amazon.com/Extinction-Ray-Hammond/dp/0330485962/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294950028&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Extinction-Ray-Hammond/dp/0330485962/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294950028&sr=1-1)

9. Island in the sea of time (trilogy), SM Stirling.  A small community go back i time.  They have to revert to a sustainable level of technology. equally applicable to a post apocalypse scenario.  Highly recommended
http://www.amazon.com/Island-Sea-Time-S-Stirling/dp/0451456750/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950069&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Island-Sea-Time-S-Stirling/dp/0451456750/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950069&sr=1-1)

10.  Level 7, (Modecai Roshwald), set in a post apocalypse bunker. Not read yet
http://www.amazon.com/Level-7-Library-American-Fiction/dp/0299200647/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950107&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Level-7-Library-American-Fiction/dp/0299200647/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950107&sr=1-1)

I would be interested in ant thoughts on these or similar books.

BR

Steve

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Red Dog on October 20, 2008, 09:14:51 PM
If you liked Lucifers Hammer try " A Mote in God's Eye "  I 'm going off of memory but I believe it's Pournell and Larry Niven together.

http://www.amazon.com/Mote-Gods-Eye-Larry-Niven/dp/0671741926/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950224&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Mote-Gods-Eye-Larry-Niven/dp/0671741926/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950224&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: stevebluff on October 21, 2008, 02:31:32 AM
If you liked Lucifers Hammer try " A Mote in God's Eye "  I 'm going off of memory but I believe it's Pournell and Larry Niven together.
Agreed, another one i have read a few time. Niven/Pournelle are a killer team.  Jerry Pournelle became a good friend of Mel Tappen (look him up if you do not know the name) who is often quoted as the father of modern survivalist.  Just reading Stone Castle by Ian Banks, hard work (post world/civil war set in the UK), i'll be glad when its over!

br

steve
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: 19kilo on October 21, 2008, 02:47:03 AM
How about "The Road"  By Cormac Mcarthy

http://www.amazon.com/Road-Movie-Tie--Vintage-International/dp/0307476316/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950350&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Road-Movie-Tie--Vintage-International/dp/0307476316/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950350&sr=1-1)

That, is a PAW book if I ever read one.  

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Red Dog on October 21, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
Jerry Pournelle became a good friend of Mel Tappen (look him up if you do not know the name) who is often quoted as the father of modern survivalist.  Just reading Stone Castle by Ian Banks, hard work (post world/civil war set in the UK), i'll be glad when its over!


I had to do a quick bit of google fu, looks like I've got some more reading to do.

Thanks
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: BigDanInTX on October 21, 2008, 09:19:09 PM
+1 for Lucifer's Hammer!!  "You may have flight, but we control the lightning!!"
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Aunt Bee on October 21, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
Two very good books are Deep Winter and Shatter by T. Sherry.  I'm pretty sure they are available in a hard copy now and there is a third book that is either out or close.  I read them on line but they are no longer available that way as far as I know.  He's a prepper and I picked up a lot of useful knowledge from those books not to mention the story lines were great.  I'm thinking about reading them again just for inspiration.  They had a little bit of everything...earthquake, pandemic and war for starters.

Another great online book is We Interrupt This Program by A. T. Hagan.  Again, he's a prepper and this book is educational and entertaining too. I assume it's ok to post the link since someone on that board gave me the link for this site.

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=192640


OOPS!  Just realized this was for classic books and I'm not sure these meet that spec.  They do to me but maybe not everyone.  Mods feel free to move this.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: IRKCOD on October 22, 2008, 01:37:54 AM
Aunt Bee,

Thanks for the link
Have downloaded the story
Checked out the link form the bottom of the story http://athagan.members.atlantic.net/Index.html

A couple of interesting and practical articles/downloads on Food Storage and Water Treatment
 :) :) :)

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: quietmike on October 23, 2008, 03:20:48 PM
The FOXFIRE series of books by Eliot Wiggington and his students- These books are compilations of interviews of elderly Appalachain people by high school students in the late '60's- early '70's. Great resource of "forgotten"skills.

http://www.amazon.com/Foxfire-Book-Dressing-Building-Moonshining/dp/0385073534/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950500&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Foxfire-Book-Dressing-Building-Moonshining/dp/0385073534/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950500&sr=1-1)

The Encyclopedia of Country Living by Carla Emery-The bible of self sufficient living.

http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Country-Living-Carla-Emery/dp/1570615535/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294950579&sr=1-1-spell (http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Country-Living-Carla-Emery/dp/1570615535/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294950579&sr=1-1-spell)

Where there is no Doctor by David Werner- originally written for missionary type workers, but a great medical book. Also an e-book
http://www.raems.com/WTND.zip
 (http://www.raems.com/WTND.zip)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: ElyasWolff on October 23, 2008, 08:21:01 PM
Nobody has mentioned the "Hatchet" series.

http://www.amazon.com/Hatchet-Gary-Paulsen/dp/1416936475/ref=pd_sim_b_4 (http://www.amazon.com/Hatchet-Gary-Paulsen/dp/1416936475/ref=pd_sim_b_4)

I read the first three while I was in the Scouts, and they made me think.
The Hatched books and "My Side of The Mountian" Will be read to my child when he/she is born  ;D

My Side of the Mountain Trilogy: http://www.amazon.com/Side-Mountain-Trilogy-Far-Frightfuls/dp/0525462694/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950816&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Side-Mountain-Trilogy-Far-Frightfuls/dp/0525462694/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950816&sr=1-2)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Taylor3006 on October 27, 2008, 07:42:56 PM
For just good suvivalist fiction try "Unintended Conseqences" by John Ross, "The Stand" by Stephen King is fun, and "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank (really good). The "Ashes" series by William Johnstone a decent but they tend to drag a bit. The first few books in the "Survivalist" series  by Ahern are ok. For non fiction and just general reading I think that "Lone Star: a history of Texas and theTexans" by T. Fehrenbach is probably the most important book since the Bible, well for Texans anyways.

Unintended Consequences: http://www.amazon.com/Unintended-Consequences-John-Ross/dp/1888118040/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950899&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Unintended-Consequences-John-Ross/dp/1888118040/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950899&sr=1-1)

The Stand: http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Expanded-First-Complete-Signet/dp/0451169530/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950949&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Expanded-First-Complete-Signet/dp/0451169530/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294950949&sr=1-1)

Out of the Ashes: http://www.amazon.com/Out-Ashes-William-W-Johnstone/dp/0786019530/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951002&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Out-Ashes-William-W-Johnstone/dp/0786019530/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951002&sr=1-2)

Survivalist #1: http://www.amazon.com/Survivalist-1-Total-War/dp/B000ZNC08W/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951075&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Survivalist-1-Total-War/dp/B000ZNC08W/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951075&sr=1-1)

Lone Star: http://www.amazon.com/Lone-Star-History-Texas-Texans/dp/0306809427/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951124&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Lone-Star-History-Texas-Texans/dp/0306809427/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951124&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: SueDonim on October 27, 2008, 08:14:53 PM
Agree "Unintended Consequences" is an excellent read.  Might want to pay cash for that one though.  No credit card receipt is better for that story  ;)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Patriot:Ex Machina on October 28, 2008, 06:32:00 AM
I remember the first time I read "Alas, Babylon". I was 13 years old and I didn't sleep well for 2 weeks.
A very good read. I can still pick it up and it keeps my interest.
Even though the plot takes place in the 50-60s, it could easily apply to today's world.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: earthling? on November 05, 2008, 07:17:47 PM
I didn't see them mentioned so I will recommend:
Swan Song by Robert McCammon

http://www.amazon.com/Swan-Song-Robert-McCammon/dp/1439156735/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951333&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Swan-Song-Robert-McCammon/dp/1439156735/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951333&sr=1-1)

and
A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter Miller Jr.

http://www.amazon.com/Canticle-Leibowitz-Walter-Miller-Jr/dp/0060892994/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951372&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Canticle-Leibowitz-Walter-Miller-Jr/dp/0060892994/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951372&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: nate49080 on November 06, 2008, 07:09:52 AM
the best survivalist book i have ever read was "When Technology Fails". It give helpful information and hundreds of links to other well written survivalist books.

http://www.amazon.com/When-Technology-Fails-Revised-Expanded/dp/1933392452/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951422&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/When-Technology-Fails-Revised-Expanded/dp/1933392452/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951422&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: iron mike on November 06, 2008, 07:21:57 AM
My side of the mountain   is great for younger readers.

So is Dorp dead
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Lucretius on November 06, 2008, 09:23:32 AM
How about "The Road"  By Cormac Mcarthy

That, is a PAW book if I ever read one. 



You beat me to it... :(

Definately #1 on my list. Literary quality is excellent, which is rare in the genre (the guy won a pulitzer!). The bleakness and desperation is unrelenting all the way through.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: John Willis on November 07, 2008, 06:56:53 PM
You have got to read Deep winter (part 1) and shattered (part 2) by Tom Sherry. They are available on line for free. I think he has also published them. They are both great stories. I dont really read a lot but couldnt put them down.

Lights out by Halffast. Available online for free.

Cold camp (short story) available online for free.

Pax americana available online for free also.

Look up survival fiction on google. Theres a lot there.

John Willis
www.SOEtacticalgear.com

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Kara on November 07, 2008, 08:17:24 PM
"The Host" by Stephenie Meyer...For those who like their post apocalyptic fiction with a whole lot of sci fi.

http://www.amazon.com/Host-Novel-Stephenie-Meyer/dp/0316068055/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951552&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Host-Novel-Stephenie-Meyer/dp/0316068055/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951552&sr=1-1)

It's an interesting read about what humans do to survive after being taken over by another civilization, and the lengths people will go to in order to protect each other.

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: jpr9954 on November 12, 2008, 07:02:17 PM
Agree "Unintended Consequences" is an excellent read.  Might want to pay cash for that one though.  No credit card receipt is better for that story  ;)

Too late for me now!  ::)

I bought it last year and loved it. I have family in the St. Louis area so the way Ross wove in St. Louis locations was great.

A couple of more in a similar vein would be two by Matthew Bracken. The first was "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" and the followup was "Domestic Enemies: The Reconquista". Both dealt with a rogue BATF and a disintegrating USA. I understand from emails with Bracken that he has a third book coming out to continue the theme. I think it will feature a President similar to Obama.

Enemies Foreign and Domestic: http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Matthew-Bracken/dp/0972831010/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951646&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Matthew-Bracken/dp/0972831010/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951646&sr=1-1)

Domestic Enemies: http://www.amazon.com/Domestic-Enemies-Reconquista-Matthew-Bracken/dp/0972831029/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951699&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Domestic-Enemies-Reconquista-Matthew-Bracken/dp/0972831029/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951699&sr=1-1)

John

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: SouthernLiving on November 24, 2008, 10:44:29 AM

Lights out by Halffast. Available online for free.


I'll second this one!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: ink on November 24, 2008, 11:27:04 AM
I don't know how much useful information, but these are some I've read:

The Folk of the Fringe by Orson Scott Card

http://www.amazon.com/Folk-Fringe-Orson-Scott-Card/dp/0312876637/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951791&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Folk-Fringe-Orson-Scott-Card/dp/0312876637/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951791&sr=1-1)

Warday by Whitley Strieber

http://www.amazon.com/Warday-Journey-Onwards-Whitley-Strieber/dp/0340366494/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951828&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Warday-Journey-Onwards-Whitley-Strieber/dp/0340366494/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294951828&sr=1-1)

Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham
http://www.amazon.com/Day-Triffids-20th-Century-Rediscoveries/dp/0812967127/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951861&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Day-Triffids-20th-Century-Rediscoveries/dp/0812967127/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951861&sr=1-1)

World War Z by Max Brooks (zombies)
http://www.amazon.com/World-War-Oral-History-Zombie/dp/0307346617/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951896&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/World-War-Oral-History-Zombie/dp/0307346617/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951896&sr=1-1)

... and Lucifer's Hammer is in the mail to me  ;D

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Hraz on November 24, 2008, 12:34:13 PM
When I was in 7th grade I read a book called City of Darkness by Ben Bova. The story takes place in Manhattan, where a dome covers the city's decay and decadence and is only "open" two months a year to the outside world of programmed, ordered society. The main character has his i.d. stolen and can't leave the dome and he is stranded in the Dome, beset by gangs and scavengers.

http://www.amazon.com/City-Darkness-Ben-Bova/dp/0765343614/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951989&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/City-Darkness-Ben-Bova/dp/0765343614/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294951989&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Hraz on November 24, 2008, 12:35:25 PM
A World Turned Upside Down by Dent, J.M. had some good ideas in it as well.

http://www.amazon.com/World-Turned-Upside-Down/dp/141377055X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952068&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/World-Turned-Upside-Down/dp/141377055X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952068&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: theaccidentalsurvivor on November 24, 2008, 01:27:52 PM
Ill Wind by Kevin Anderson

http://www.amazon.com/Ill-Wind-Kevin-J-Anderson/dp/0765367114/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952125&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Ill-Wind-Kevin-J-Anderson/dp/0765367114/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952125&sr=1-1)

Its about a petroleum eating bacteria that gets loose. Ends up with a crazed military officer trying to take over New Mexico. Good read.

Footfall by Pournell and Niven is another CLASSIC! That is if you like an alien scenario.

http://www.amazon.com/Footfall-Larry-Niven/dp/0345418425/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952174&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Footfall-Larry-Niven/dp/0345418425/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952174&sr=1-1)

BTW: for all of you who havent read The Postman because you saw the movie....Shame on you! The book is so much better.

VonNeumann's War by John Ringo is a good one also..... more of a nanotech/ alien story, but still entertaining.
http://www.amazon.com/Von-Neumanns-War-John-Ringo/dp/1416555307/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952212&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Von-Neumanns-War-John-Ringo/dp/1416555307/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952212&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Hraz on November 24, 2008, 05:19:58 PM
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: 19kilo on November 24, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?

oh yeah,  great book.  What I think the teotwawki will really look like.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Dan on November 25, 2008, 04:20:16 PM
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?
Yeah, what 19kilo said.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on November 25, 2008, 04:38:51 PM
ENEMIES Foriegn and Domestic, and DOMESTIC ENEMIES The Reconquista.  Both by Matthew Bracken (Parts one and two)  A third book is in the works, I guess. I can hardly wait!  Real "page turners".
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TimSuggs on November 25, 2008, 06:40:57 PM
Paperback PAW Series:  My 3 favorite, in order.  Got me through 6 years in the AF

The Survivalist - Jerry Ahern

End World - David Robbins

http://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Endworld-David-Robbins/dp/0843962321/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294952314&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Endworld-David-Robbins/dp/0843962321/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294952314&sr=8-1)

The Warlord - Jason Frost

http://www.amazon.com/Warlord-J-Frost/dp/082171189X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952367&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Warlord-J-Frost/dp/082171189X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952367&sr=1-2)

And if anyone has any of these, I'm buying!

Tim Suggs
Birmingham, AL. USA!

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Lucretius on November 26, 2008, 07:29:56 AM
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?
Yeah, what 19kilo said.

Yes, and then I agreed that The Road by Cormac McCarthy is the best PAW book in existence.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: John Willis on November 26, 2008, 08:15:56 PM
Lights out. http://survivalmonkey.com/SF%20books/LightsOut!/LightsOut-Current.pdf

Deep Winter and shattered---

Cold camp----http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=20&t=616500

John Willis
www.SOetacticalgear.com

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Jwatt on December 01, 2008, 11:33:07 AM
Great thread people!
I wrote down at least a dozen books from this list and will start knocking them out one by one.  I just finished "The Road" by McCormack - great read!
This book really gets into the emotional and psychological side of dealing with an earth-changing catastrophe.  I don't think anyone could prepare themselves adequately for the type of situation the man and his son - who are the protagonists of the book- had to face.  It does make you realize the value of things so trivial and meaningless to us as shopping carts, forks and shoes. 
I start started Steven King's "The Stand" since I couldn't find any of the other books on my list in the local library. 
   
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on December 02, 2008, 12:28:30 AM
Lights out. http://survivalmonkey.com/SF%20books/LightsOut!/LightsOut-Current.pdf

Deep Winter and shattered---

Cold camp----http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=20&t=616500

John Willis
www.SOetacticalgear.com


I can't access the Lights Out .pdf link.

It says the file can't be found on the server.

Any ideas John?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: archer on December 02, 2008, 10:46:17 AM
Here is my copy of it:
link deleted

EDIT: Archer: Link removed to respect Authors copyrights.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on December 02, 2008, 10:54:29 AM
Great story!  I've read it twice already.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: MamaGator on December 02, 2008, 05:32:55 PM
The Earth's Children series by Jean Auel is to my mind a survival series, using absolutely no tech since the books are set about 15,000 years ago.  In my opinion, the first three books are the most enjoyable, interesting and informative.  Definitely sparked my interest in herbal remedies, though i wouldn't use the books as a reference - just a starting point.  The first book, Clan of the Cave Bear, was published in 1980 so I'd consider it 'classic'.  

http://www.amazon.com/Clan-Cave-Bear-Earths-Children/dp/0553381679/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952460&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Clan-Cave-Bear-Earths-Children/dp/0553381679/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952460&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: BerserkerPrime on December 02, 2008, 06:20:12 PM
1. Earth Abides

2. The Stand (classic)

3. The Road.     Just read this one and it is really good, though leaves you asking alot of questions.....

BerskerPrime!!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: BerserkerPrime on December 02, 2008, 06:22:51 PM
Also.....

If any of you download podiobooks, 7th Son is incredible....especially the last piece called Obsidian.  Obsidian let the fans podcast stories of the aftermath in several ways.  It got very creative.   
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on December 03, 2008, 12:12:40 AM
Here is my copy of it:
link removed

Cool, thanks!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: tash on December 05, 2008, 10:27:50 AM
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn...  it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: 19kilo on December 05, 2008, 10:07:16 PM
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn...  it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?

very very depressed.  I finished that book thinking that there was no hope for the world.    At all.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Lucretius on December 06, 2008, 09:43:08 AM
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn...  it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?

No.

It gave me hope.

The hole point is, despite the terrible circumstances, The Man did not give up. To me, that's central to survivalism: not just offing yourself the moment civilisation can't offer you a hot latte... Not to have some spare batteries for a two-hour blackout, but to have the will to survive the worst.
And to think about how many people actually have that little food today!  :o
So I think the wives' reaction was kind of depressing, but found lots of strength in The Mans refusal to give up (and even read The Boy a story now and again).
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: BerserkerPrime on December 06, 2008, 06:22:56 PM
It was good, but I still didn't want to get naked and to the chim chim dance when I finished it.  Wow......

I think I can figure out who Rober Duvall will play in the movie...

BP
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: 19kilo on December 06, 2008, 10:53:55 PM
It was good, but I still didn't want to get naked and to the chim chim dance when I finished it.  Wow......

I think I can figure out who Rober Duvall will play in the movie...

BP

The beach scenes were filmed right here in Erie.  I guess it looks like the PAW. :o
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: 19kilo on December 06, 2008, 10:57:51 PM
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn...  it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?

No.

It gave me hope.

The hole point is, despite the terrible circumstances, The Man did not give up. To me, that's central to survivalism: not just offing yourself the moment civilisation can't offer you a hot latte... Not to have some spare batteries for a two-hour blackout, but to have the will to survive the worst.
And to think about how many people actually have that little food today!  :o
So I think the wives' reaction was kind of depressing, but found lots of strength in The Mans refusal to give up (and even read The Boy a story now and again).

I totally see whee you're coming from there. But I couldn't see where there was any fertile earth to grow anything to try and rebuilt.  It had been quite a few years and the fires were still going on.  That and what the father died of I think was affecting every one else to.  that is why they were the cloth masks, to prevent inhaling  the polluted air.  I guess if I knew what caused there apocalypse, I would feel better about it.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Jwatt on December 08, 2008, 04:38:10 PM
It seems that the catastrophe was unsurvivable.  There wasn't any chance for recovery or regrowth for at least a lifetime.  The story was really beyond survivalism (see the God in Survivalism thread).  You cannot prepare for this type of catastrophe and even if you manage to keep going for a while you will eventually fall victim one way or another. 
One of the questions McCormack is dealing with is:  What makes a man struggle to stay alive in a hopeless situation?  In the end, survival itself was meaningless without a reason to survive.  In The Man's case it was his son that provided the reason.  Also, I don't think anyone can blame the wife for committing suicide and even wanting to take her child with her.  How many of you would be prepared to risk seeing your child starve or become brutalized by vicious savages who would do unthinkable things to them?  If death is inevitable (and not 20 years down the road but any day kind of inevitable), why not just get it over with quickly without taking the risk?   
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Judith on December 08, 2008, 10:19:49 PM
Thank you so much for posting your interesting books to read, SteveBluff.  I have been searching for years, but more recently in great earnest, for the book Earth Abides.  I read it in high school, but wanted to read it again and could not remember the title.  By your synopsis of the book, I thought it might be THE book I was searching for and upon further exploration, found that, indeed, it was the book I had read many years ago.  I just ordered a copy of it from Amazon.com and really appreciate your list of "good reads."
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: jpr9954 on December 21, 2008, 05:02:17 PM
I just finished the first of the Jerry Ahern "Survivalist" series. It is named "Total War" and features a post-nuclear USA. The hero or anti-hero is named John Rourke. I think this series started in the early 1980s and ran for about 25 books. It isn't "great" writing but it is good for what it is.

Another one that is partially published online right now is "Absolved" by Mike Vanderboegh. It is in the "Unintended Consequences" or "Enemies: Foreign and Domestic" vein. I think it is supposed to be out this year or next in paper. It is about a fight between the State of Alabama and initially BATF. Here is the link to it:

http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/07/absolved-banner-connector.html (http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/07/absolved-banner-connector.html)

John
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on December 21, 2008, 11:26:28 PM
I am reading one online right now called: "We Interrupt This Program".  It's on Homesteading Today.  I'm only about 1/2 way through.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: swanson on December 24, 2008, 10:59:07 AM
timsuggs,

Thought you might like this -

Check out this link to graphic audio for Ahern's survivalist books on mp3...

http://www.graphicaudio.net/c-66-survivalist.aspx

Not bad.

swanson
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on December 24, 2008, 11:26:09 AM
I am reading one online right now called: "We Interrupt This Program".  It's on Homesteading Today.  I'm only about 1/2 way through.

Just an update

Finished the story.  It was pretty good.  A little closer to "real life", I thing, than others I have read. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Hraz on December 25, 2008, 09:18:22 PM
My take on The Road was that the future would be brighter through the son. The father, though better than 99% of the people still had a dark side. I think the scene when the person stole their cart showed the difference between the father/the old world & the son/the future world.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Lucretius on December 26, 2008, 09:12:00 AM
My take on The Road was that the future would be brighter through the son. The father, though better than 99% of the people still had a dark side. I think the scene when the person stole their cart showed the difference between the father/the old world & the son/the future world.

+1. The only one who truly was alive was The Boy. The Man died when The Wife did what she did...

It's heartbreaking to think about the slim chances The Boy has. No homesteading there... :'(

I really wonder what killed the world, though. Nuclear winter is the most popular theory, from what I've heard. Fits a lot of details in the book.
A sudden decline in solar activity would have much the same effects, but not the sudden blackout described in the flashbacks.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Jwatt on December 30, 2008, 02:02:14 PM
In a scenario like The Road, I think you might be better off dead.  The only reason that boy had any life in him was because he never saw the world the way it was before.  Would you really want to try and rebuild humanity in a world that the sun could not penetrate? 

I learned one important lesson from that book:

Don't get caught without a gun and plenty of ammo for TEOTWAWKI. 

I am almost finished with The Stand.  It isn't such great survivalist literature.  Steven King doesn't really deal with the details of survival in a post super-flu world.

Both authors imagined there would be groups of people who banded together to enact their sickest fantasies. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TimSuggs on December 31, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
timsuggs,
http://www.graphicaudio.net/c-66-survivalist.aspx
swanson

Thanks my friend!  I will like it, VERY much!

Tim.

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Sister Wolf on December 31, 2008, 11:09:08 AM
Both authors imagined there would be groups of people who banded together to enact their sickest fantasies. 

Like Politicians?   :D
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Jwatt on December 31, 2008, 11:28:51 AM
No, like writers  ;)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TimSuggs on January 01, 2009, 07:57:51 AM
Both authors imagined there would be groups of people who banded together to enact their sickest fantasies. 

Like Politicians?   :D

Good one Sister Wolf!  And so true too.  A New Year's +1 fer ya!

Tim.

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: railroadman on January 10, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
i'm in the middle of reading Stephen King's "Dark Tower" series and I'm trying to figure it out. My thinking is that it is some sort of post-apocalyptic fiction but I'm not figuring it out yet. Its part of the mystery I guess. I just started "Wolves of the Calla"
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Jwatt on January 12, 2009, 10:03:25 PM
Thanks for all the book suggestions guys (although my wife wouldn't agree)! 

I just finished Alas Babylon.  It is not a really detailed account of survival after nuclear war but leaves you what to think about - don't forget to stock up on salt!

I have also been reading Lights Out - this one is lots of fun! 

I just started the postman and can't wait to get through some more. 

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Professor on January 13, 2009, 12:23:37 PM
Just some additions that I haven't seen on here:

"Dies the Fire" by S.M. Stirling:  One wierd flash of light across the world and something happens to one subset of the laws of physics.  Electricity cannot be generated, certain chemical reactions are radically slowed down. . .in other words. . .even though we know how to make electricity, we can't.  Gunpowder doesn't work.

http://www.amazon.com/Dies-Fire-S-M-Stirling/dp/0451460413/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952595&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Dies-Fire-S-M-Stirling/dp/0451460413/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952595&sr=1-1)

Sorta kicks the gun-oriented survivalists right in the 'nads.

Along a similar vein is "Pesthouse" by Jim Crace

http://www.amazon.com/Pesthouse-Vintage-Jim-Crace/dp/0307278956/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952636&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Pesthouse-Vintage-Jim-Crace/dp/0307278956/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952636&sr=1-1)

The entire "The Guardians" series. . well. . .at least until around book 10.  Then some ghost writer messed it all up.
http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Blood-Guardian-Meljean-Brook/dp/0425235475/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952675&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Blood-Guardian-Meljean-Brook/dp/0425235475/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952675&sr=1-1)


Lots of sci-fi post-apocalyptic fantasy in "Deathlands" but it's actually about 100 years after a massive nuclear war.
http://www.amazon.com/Pilgrimage-Hell-Deathlands-James-Axler/dp/0373485956/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952743&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Pilgrimage-Hell-Deathlands-James-Axler/dp/0373485956/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952743&sr=1-1)

Harlan Ellison's "A Boy and His Dog" (new edition coming, per Amazon)
http://www.amazon.com/Boy-His-Dog-Harlan-Ellison/dp/0871881187/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952777&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Boy-His-Dog-Harlan-Ellison/dp/0871881187/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952777&sr=1-2)

Even though it's better known for the movie, there is a book "Damnation Alley."  (Wife won't let me buy a Landmaster.)
http://www.amazon.com/Damnation-Alley-Roger-Zelazny/dp/0743486625/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952828&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Damnation-Alley-Roger-Zelazny/dp/0743486625/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952828&sr=1-1)
I haven't seen anyone post "Farnham's Freehold."  That's an ABSOLUTE classic.


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This is a little esoteric, and I'm not sure you can find them here as I found them when stationed in Europe in the mid-80's at the Brit's version of a PX : "The Zone" by James Rouch.  Mainly deals with a bunch of soldiers caught up in a war, but there's a lot of interesting speculation.
http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Target-Zone-J-Rouch/dp/0821714929/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952911&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Target-Zone-J-Rouch/dp/0821714929/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294952911&sr=1-1)

Also, believe it or not, Levar Burton (who played Geordi LaForge on Star Trek: The Next Generation) wrote quite a passable work with "Aftermath."
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermath-LeVar-Burton/dp/0446605018/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952966&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Aftermath-LeVar-Burton/dp/0446605018/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294952966&sr=1-1)

There's also "Pendulum" by John Christopher as well as "The Long Winter."
http://www.amazon.com/Pendulum-John-Christopher/dp/0718112393/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953012&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Pendulum-John-Christopher/dp/0718112393/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953012&sr=1-1)
http://www.amazon.com/long-winter-John-Christopher/dp/B00005WAFN/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953043&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/long-winter-John-Christopher/dp/B00005WAFN/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953043&sr=1-1)

Some others that I can see on my shelf :

Endworld
http://www.amazon.com/Endworld-01-Fox-David-Robbins/dp/0843923636/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953088&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Endworld-01-Fox-David-Robbins/dp/0843923636/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953088&sr=1-1)
Glimmering
http://www.amazon.com/Glimmering-Novel-Elizabeth-Hand/dp/0061012165/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953123&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Glimmering-Novel-Elizabeth-Hand/dp/0061012165/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953123&sr=1-1)
Day of the Triffids
Cat's Cradle (Ah. . .Vonnegut)
http://www.amazon.com/Cats-Cradle-Novel-Kurt-Vonnegut/dp/038533348X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953158&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Cats-Cradle-Novel-Kurt-Vonnegut/dp/038533348X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953158&sr=1-1)
Battlefield Earth (L. Ron. . .is that you?)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-Earth-Saga-Year-3000/dp/1592120539/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953191&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-Earth-Saga-Year-3000/dp/1592120539/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953191&sr=1-1)
This Is The Way The World Ends
http://www.amazon.com/This-World-Ends-James-Morrow/dp/0156002086/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953229&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/This-World-Ends-James-Morrow/dp/0156002086/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953229&sr=1-1)
Plague Year
http://www.amazon.com/Plague-Year-Jeff-Carlson/dp/044101514X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953281&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Plague-Year-Jeff-Carlson/dp/044101514X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953281&sr=1-1)
Z for Zachariah
http://www.amazon.com/Z-Zachariah-Robert-C-OBrien/dp/1416939210/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953319&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Z-Zachariah-Robert-C-OBrien/dp/1416939210/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953319&sr=1-1)
The Drowned World
http://www.amazon.com/Drowned-World-J-G-Ballard/dp/1857988833/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953362&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Drowned-World-J-G-Ballard/dp/1857988833/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953362&sr=1-1)
Day-by-Day Armageddon
http://www.amazon.com/Day-Armageddon-J-L-Bourne/dp/1439176671/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953390&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Day-Armageddon-J-L-Bourne/dp/1439176671/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953390&sr=1-1)

And the book that was the first Post Apocalyptic fiction novel that I read when I was in the 4th grade: The Tripods by Christopher Barry.

Yeah, it has a lot of sci-fi in it. . .but it was good enough that it bit me like a bug.

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Marcus on January 13, 2009, 09:48:10 PM
"Parable of the Sower" and "Parable of the Talents" by Octavia Butler
-Definitely worth a look.

http://www.amazon.com/Parable-Sower-Octavia-Butler/dp/0446675504/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953506&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Parable-Sower-Octavia-Butler/dp/0446675504/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953506&sr=1-1)
http://www.amazon.com/Parable-Talents-Octavia-Butler/dp/0446675784/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953543&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Parable-Talents-Octavia-Butler/dp/0446675784/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294953543&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: leatherneck on February 09, 2009, 11:31:47 AM
+1 for "The Road"   Scary stuff
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: CBMS on February 09, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
No one has mentioned "World Made by hand"? Great book, good for introducing the genteler side of survivalism.
Also My take on the road is only read if you can withstand the amount of depression it instills in you. Gawd I felt aweful almost the entire time I read it. So sad, but things are going to be like that in the end for some people.

http://www.amazon.com/World-Made-James-Howard-Kunstler/dp/0802144012/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953601&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/World-Made-James-Howard-Kunstler/dp/0802144012/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294953601&sr=1-1)

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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: 19kilo on February 09, 2009, 06:29:57 PM
No one has mentioned "World Made by hand"? Great book, good for introducing the genteler side of survivalism.
Also My take on the road is only read if you can withstand the amount of depression it instills in you. Gawd I felt aweful almost the entire time I read it. So sad, but things are going to be like that in the end for some people.

Yes,  I have that book.  I am going to read it when I finish the long emergency.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: bwachob on February 09, 2009, 07:51:51 PM
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn...  it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?
I read the first half of the book the day I got it.  That night I put my 3 yo son in bed with me and kept reaching over to amke sure he was breathing.  This is a great book, but yes extremly depressing.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Michael Masse on February 09, 2009, 10:06:13 PM
No mention of the James Wesley, Rawles book "Patriots - Surviving the coming collapse"  I thought that he did a great job with a plausible SHTF scenarios.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Roswell on February 09, 2009, 10:20:42 PM
Nobody has mentioned the "Hatchet" series.

I read the first three while I was in the Scouts, and they made me think.
The Hatched books and "My Side of The Mountian" Will be read to my child when he/she is born  ;D


No fair! you stole my answers!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TimJ on February 10, 2009, 04:25:58 PM
Here's another link to my short story Cold Camp- http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=200 (http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=200)

also-the .pdf file can be downloaded here-  http://www.drzero.org/fiction/files/cold_camp.pdf (http://www.drzero.org/fiction/files/cold_camp.pdf)

I have an editor now, I'm working on cleaning the story up and making it better.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Sherman on February 12, 2009, 09:47:33 AM
First a request to the Monitors: An off Post sub-directory form of Listing of Survival Books for reference, please.... might also be good for other things, a listing attached to a forum post... like recipes, URLs, ammo, etc... things that get re-posted often because they get lost in the depths of a thread and are hard to find.
OK... here are some books I've read that are great Survival reads....
C. Palmer's "Emergence"  it's about survival after a world wide genetic plague, so is Frank Herbert's "White Plague" (think it's F Herbert)
Edgar Pangborn's "Davy"  which is about some 1000 years after nuclear war
many of Andre Norton's books are about post nuclear war... "Starman's Son/Daybreak2250" for one...,
And the wonderful Roger Finlay "Wonder Island Boys"  'bout a couple of boys and an old professor cast away on an island. Some great "how-to" stuff in these books!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on February 14, 2009, 02:31:39 AM
First a request to the Monitors: An off Post sub-directory form of Listing of Survival Books for reference, please.... might also be good for other things, a listing attached to a forum post... like recipes, URLs, ammo, etc... things that get re-posted often because they get lost in the depths of a thread and are hard to find.
Sandra here you go.  The list of books & stories (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0) per your request.

It's located in The Repository.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Sherman on February 14, 2009, 05:53:04 AM
Thank You DeltaEchoVictor!!  And now I'll add a survival series I don't see on the list: William Johnstone's "Ashes" series...the first one  is "Out of the Ashes"  this series is hard core conservative, very military and quite tongue-in-cheek at times.  I loved his phrase "hanky-stomping liberals". His hero Ben Raines pulls no punches, gives no quarter, takes no hostages, follows Marine rules, is beloved by his "troops" and despised by his enemies. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TimSuggs on February 14, 2009, 09:00:39 AM
First a request to the Monitors: An off Post sub-directory form of Listing of Survival Books for reference, please.... might also be good for other things, a listing attached to a forum post... like recipes, URLs, ammo, etc... things that get re-posted often because they get lost in the depths of a thread and are hard to find.
Sandra here you go.  The list of books & stories (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0) per your request.

It's located in The Repository.

+1 fer my friend DEV for putting together such a fine list and a +1 fer Sandra for suggesting it.  AND...  you know...  Anytime a thread becomes 10/20/30 (whatever) messages long and contains bits and pieces of the thread information all over the place, moderators should extricate the information and sticky a link to it at the top of the thread.

Tim "Hijacker of Threads and WiFi Signals EVERYWHERE" Suggs

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: CheesyD on February 15, 2009, 05:49:06 PM
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?

I just ordered "The Road", along with "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse".

Great thread!!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Michael Masse on February 15, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
Read "Patriots" over Christmas and it was the first book I've read with the newly developing preparedness mindset.  So it will always have a special place in my heart.

I really enjoyed it.  My in laws were in town at the time so I had to fight with my father in law to get my hands on it to read because he picked it up and could not put it down.  They left to go back home before he finished so we order him a copy to finish when he got home.

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: PBRstreetgang on February 16, 2009, 07:27:25 PM
No one has mentioned "World Made by hand"? Great book, good for introducing the genteler side of survivalism.
Also My take on the road is only read if you can withstand the amount of depression it instills in you. Gawd I felt aweful almost the entire time I read it. So sad, but things are going to be like that in the end for some people.

Yes,  I have that book.  I am going to read it when I finish the long emergency.

Just finished The Long Emergency and World Made by Hand, back to back.  The Long Emergency is an analysis of the upcoming economic crisis, touches on the effects of peak oil on America and the world, and goes into detail on how no form of energy (wind, hydrogen, etc.) will ever be as abundant/efficient as fossil fuel.  A must read for anyone wanting insights on the potential effects of the apocalyptic 'perfect storm': peak oil, global warming, population explosion, etc.  Kunstler's 'The Geography of Nowhere' is also a good read - an analysis of how the concept of suburbia was a waste of resources (being built on the assumption that most everyone is driving a car), knowing that we won't have any oil someday to get people from suburbia to work.

World Made by Hand is a novel, in contrast to the two I mentioned above.  It's a story about life in a post-collapse small town, and what people to to get by.  It's not a 'shoot-em-up' read like The Stand, and doesn't take place in a wasteland like The Road, but provides some interesting insights into the 'good vs. evil' and social interactions that would likely be evident in a post-collapse society, to include the lack of knowledge of what's going on in the outside world.  It's a pretty good read if you're already into the genre.  Kunstler is now working on the sequel to the novel (per his podcast) that will be released later this year. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Roswell on February 16, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
+1 to Dev for making that awesome list!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Billy McKay on February 19, 2009, 05:46:10 PM
Just some additions that I haven't seen on here:
snip

The entire "The Guardians" series. . well. . .at least until around book 10.  Then some ghost writer messed it all up.



The entire series was Ghost written. A guy named Vic Milian wrote the first 12 or so, and then a handful of authors took it out to somewhere around 20. There never really was a real Richard Austin.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Heavy G on March 06, 2009, 09:01:35 AM
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Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Professor on March 12, 2009, 12:07:35 PM
The entire series was Ghost written. A guy named Vic Milian wrote the first 12 or so, and then a handful of authors took it out to somewhere around 20. There never really was a real Richard Austin.

Ah, my bad. . .I thought that Richard Austin was the pen name for Vic Milian (who also recently wrote a couple of books in the Deathlands series).

I did like his writing style.  I really was unhappy with the other ghost writers' styles. 

Too bad Vic (assuming he's still alive) isn't writing more PA fiction.

<sigh> . . .ah, the good, old days.

Professor
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: CFG on March 12, 2009, 01:07:45 PM
Surviving Global Slavery: Living Under the New World Order by Robert K. Spear

This has very detailed instructions on living off the grid; water, electric, food storage, etc.  Ex-military guy.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: emarellano on March 12, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
Forgive me if these two books have been mentioned. Also forgive me for not knowing the titles or author of these two books. Maybe somebody will know the books.

1. This book is about a Teenager who joins a fishing boat to help earn extra money for his family. The boat strikes an iceberg and sinks. The boy was able to jump from the ship to the iceberg and survive on the iceberg for many years. I read this book as a kid and loved it.

2. These scientist live in this Biosphere and during their stay a Disease hits earth and 99.9% of the population dies. One scientist decides to leave to find his family to see if anybody is alive. Of course he lives being one of the few people immune to the disease. Okay book.

Let me know if you guys find out the name. I have been trying to find it forever.

-Evan
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: emarellano on March 12, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
Just found the name of one of the books. "The Iceberg Hermit" by James Hogg
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Billy McKay on March 13, 2009, 09:40:40 AM
Paperback PAW Series:  My 3 favorite, in order.  Got me through 6 years in the AF

The Survivalist - Jerry Ahern

End World - David Robbins

The Warlord - Jason Frost

And if anyone has any of these, I'm buying!

Tim Suggs
Birmingham, AL. USA!

The Warlord - forgot about those

most of those 80's pulp books pop up on ebay pretty often, if you are looking for them
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: gpd240 on March 23, 2009, 07:53:42 AM
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I read the Postman on my days off, I liked it so much better than the movie.

I'm back to work now and don't have a lot of time to read so I checked out the audio book of The Road at the Library. I have listened to it on and off for the last 4 days. It is very good. I'll have to see if there are any other audio books in the Library that you guys suggest. Seems to make my shift pass by when we aren't that busy. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Roswell on March 23, 2009, 08:43:30 AM
No doubt! I love listening to audio books at work; those and podcasts.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Sid on March 27, 2009, 01:13:51 AM
My 10 year old grandson read "City of Ember" and gave it to me to read.  It is a kids book, but as a 65 year old man, I still enjoyed it.   

If you have read Lights Out, the internet book, then you probably should also read the actual predictions about that happening soon  by Richard C. Duncan. in his "Olduavai Theory.  He believes that the US electric grid will fail from lack of energy to maintain it, the industrial age will be over, and the lights really will be permanently out. 

http://www.warsocialism.com/duncan_tscq_07.pdf

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: AirborneSheepdog on March 27, 2009, 09:06:22 PM
Hi guys...brand new prepper here. If you haven't read "One Second After" by William Fortschen then I highly recommend it. Not hardcore survivalism but well written and an engaging plot about a massive EMP strike ending all electricity, new cars, etc and just how quickly society breaks down. If you troll Amazon often you will see a book called "The Collapse"....skip it. Worst $30 I ever spent.
On a related note on the BBC there is a series called "Survivors 2008" and it is a kinda melodramatic post-flu apocalyptic series set in the UK. Not much gun play (for obvious reasons) but it has a way of drawing you into the characters. You won't learn anything but it will kill 6 hours. I think you can watch it online at BBCs website.
Thanks for the other recommendations fellas!
Sheepdog
Title: Re: post apocalyptic books - SPOILER ALERT - ONE SECOND AFTER
Post by: steel on April 10, 2009, 01:04:28 PM
I just finished reading ONE SECOND AFTER.  It's a well written engaging book I think most here would enjoy.  Not a survival manual like "Patriots" by any means but a good read.  Very similar kind of story as "Alas, Babylon" was - P.A.W in a small town.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: A Pawn on April 10, 2009, 02:24:01 PM
Just found the name of one of the books. "The Iceberg Hermit" by James Hogg

I just check Amazon on this book and the author is listed as Arthur Roth for those of you who are looking for a copy...  8)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Risko on April 10, 2009, 09:27:37 PM
You beat me to it... :(

Definately #1 on my list. Literary quality is excellent, which is rare in the genre (the guy won a pulitzer!). The bleakness and desperation is unrelenting all the way through.


++1  My favorite by far.  So well written, yet so on topic.  I want to give a few others that were named here a try.

Thanks everyone for sharing.

~Risko
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: khristopher23 on April 19, 2009, 04:50:37 PM
Just finished the audio version of "The Last Town on Earth" by Thomas Mullen

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Town-Earth-Novel/dp/0812975928/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240181242&sr=8-1

An excellent historical fiction book about a logging town in the pacific northwest trying to isolate themselves from the flu of 1918, along with dealing with WWI. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Roswell on April 19, 2009, 06:24:25 PM
thanks Khristopher I will check that one out, it sounds good.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: CheesyD on April 20, 2009, 08:43:43 AM
Just finished the audio version of "The Last Town on Earth" by Thomas Mullen


It's getting great reviews on Amazon. It's now on my "wish list" there for a future purchase. Thanks!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Wilderness on April 20, 2009, 11:52:04 PM
Just finished the audio version of "The Last Town on Earth" by Thomas Mullen

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Town-Earth-Novel/dp/0812975928/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240181242&sr=8-1

An excellent historical fiction book about a logging town in the pacific northwest trying to isolate themselves from the flu of 1918, along with dealing with WWI. I highly recommend it.

Thanks for the recommendation, I just downloaded it.

TW
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Jwatt on April 22, 2009, 04:20:22 PM
It looks like a big author has recently tackled the subject of survival.

Emergency by Neil Strauss
http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-This-Book-Will-Save/dp/0060898771 (http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-This-Book-Will-Save/dp/0060898771)

I haven't read this book yet but his other book "The Game" was a lot of fun to read. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Darkwinter on April 23, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Richard Preston:  The Hot Zone  or   The Cobra Event  or   The Deamon in the Freezer.  excellent reads about biological agents.  I would highly recomend.  The Deamon in the Freezer really kicked my preps up!!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Professor on April 24, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
Thank You DeltaEchoVictor!!  And now I'll add a survival series I don't see on the list: William Johnstone's "Ashes" series...the first one  is "Out of the Ashes"  this series is hard core conservative, very military and quite tongue-in-cheek at times.  I loved his phrase "hanky-stomping liberals". His hero Ben Raines pulls no punches, gives no quarter, takes no hostages, follows Marine rules, is beloved by his "troops" and despised by his enemies. 

<chuckle>  Too bad the author went a bit over the deep end.

First, he started making references to the fact that he was the real-life Ben Raines.  Then, he starts writing the book with Ben Raines' background as his own.

For those who don't know about this series.  The main character is a guy who wrote post-apocalyptic fiction before the war started.  He presented in those books (the fictional character, that is) a concept called the Tri-States Philosophy.

Without the character's knowledge, his fans started preparing for an eventual nuclear war and, when it happened, they searched the nuclear-ravaged country looking for the author and begged him to lead them.

Lead them, he does, as a "benevolent" dictator.  They go into three states (Hence the phrase "Tri-States"), kicks the people who do live there out.  They force everyone who wants to live with them to undergo electronic- and drug-induced testing (the ones who don't pass their requirements just don't wake up) and they take on the United States Government.

Yeah, so what? 

Well, what a lot of people don't know or remember is that in the couple of years building up to Y2K, Johnstone started believing his own hype.  Several groups, just like in his books, contacted him and begged him to lead them post-Y2K to actually create the Tri-States (no, I'm not joking. . .I wish I were).

They somehow believed that Johnstone was just like Ben Raines. . .after all, didn't Johnstone write a book where he, the author, interviewed himself, the character of Ben Raines?  (answer: Yes, he did.)

Luckily, Y2K never came about and, as with most fads, the Tri-States Alliance, the Tri-States Coalition, et al, withered away from lack of interest and guidance.

Interesting books, though.

The Professor
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Bjartur on May 03, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn...  it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?

A brief warning, I was an English major in college and I have written extensively on Cormac McCarthy.

Something that doesn't seem to have been mentioned is that McCarthy is not writing his PAW novel for the same reason that many do.  For instance, I have just finished reading One Second After by William Forstchen, and books like his as well as James Wesley, Rawles' Patriots are books in the novel form intended to convey a message.  In Forstchen's case, the vulnerability of the USA to EMP attack.  As a side note, the book is a decent cautionary tale, but Forstchen is not a good writer.

In McCarthy's case, the novel is intended to be not cautionary/pop-literature, but a literary dealing with the bleak future/nature of man.  Many here, I am sure, can identify at least in part with this message.  The book is depressing because McCarthy sees little worth saving, if indeed it were even possible.  Many take from it an indomitable push to survive, which is certainly there, but taken in relation to the whole of his canon, McCarthy is working towards his feeling on the irredeemable nature of man.  And rather than having hope because of some return the the prelapsarian, McCarthy conveys a picture of us that cannot possibly be born of innocence.  (Take a look at my footer quote for more on this.)

All of that being said, The Road is one of the better PAW novels I have ever read, if not for practical knowledge, then for its examination of the root of our demise.

Also, Alas, Babylon and We are great reads, though the latter is dystopian rather than post-apocalyptic.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on May 03, 2009, 11:36:21 AM
I found (bought) "The Road" at a rummage sale yesterday. Finished it the same day.  It was a pretty good book, although pretty dark, without hope.
The relationship between father and son was a positive.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: N8 on May 05, 2009, 10:29:47 AM
+1 for The Road.

I'm 22, read and enjoyed No Country For Old Men, so I bought The Road. Before I read it I had very little urgency or inclination to begin prepping, but several aspects of that story made me want to immediately better my situation. That book was actually what prompted me to search "Survival" in Itunes, and start listening to Jack with rapt attention, back when there were only 4-5 episodes. It seemed like everything had fallen into place for me to start learning.

I was particularly impressed with the Man's initiative when he and his pregnant wife see blinding bright flashes all over the horizon, and he immediately runs to his bathtub and starts filling it, much to the dismay of his wife. Also, the safe haven that they come across, where he notices the gutter downspouts are leading to a homemade underground charcoal fitration system, and they find the food stores and survival gear. It made me want to be more.

It's a bleak setting, but honestly it was the spark i needed to start taking my life more seriously.

Halfway through Unintended Consequences, per your recommendation, really enjoying how John Ross is setting the scene with so much gun culture history. Now I'm waiting on Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse.  Don't know if they qualify as survivalist books, but I just got them and now wouldn't go without Boston's Gun Bible, as well as Molan Labe and You and the Police, all by Boston T. Party. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Muddyboots on May 06, 2009, 06:14:45 PM
I am aghast! Astounded! Amazed! No one mentioned this:


Farnham's Freehold
Trading Post & Restaraunt
American Vodka BAR Liquor. Applejack

Pure Spring Water  Corned Beef & Potatoes  Grade A Milk
            Steak & Fried Potatoes
Day Nursery Jerked Quislings (by the neck) FREE KITTENS!!

  !!! Any BOOK Accepted as Cash!!!!!
Farnham School of Contract Bridge
Lessons by Arrangement Social Eve. Every Wed.

              Warning!!!

Ring Bell. Wait. Advance With Your
Hands Up. Stay On The Path. Avoid Mines. We Lost
Three Customers Last Week. We Cant Afford
To Lose YOU    Hugh & Barbara Farnham & Fam.
                                        Freeholders

Well thats what the sign says.



Farnham's Freehold By Robert Heinlein

It is a Controversial Classic by one of the Masters, read it.


I also recommend "Tunnels Through The Sky", And actually everything Heinlein wrote!!!!

Muddyboots



Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Sister Wolf on May 06, 2009, 06:34:12 PM
I also recommend "Tunnels Through The Sky", And actually everything Heinlein wrote!!!!

I agree, Boots!  Anything by Heinlein is amazing.  :)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Kara on May 06, 2009, 06:58:22 PM
I agree too...anything by Heinlein is an outstanding read. Which reminds me that I need to get my books back from my friend...
Title: GOTTA READ!
Post by: Freshman Preppy on May 11, 2009, 09:45:44 PM
I hope I'm not repeating what someone else may have started on here, but here it goes.  I need to recommend a book I am about 60% through a book called "One Second After" by William Forstchen.
It's about what would happen if an EMP or 3 were launched over our country and fried everything.  The story revolves around a guy who used to be at the war college and knows what's coming.  Within 5 days they are dealing with refugees, food shortages, medical issues, and martial law threatening to TAKE AWAY PREPS from those that thought ahead...... 
It's  a great read.  I bought it on my wife's Kindle and now I have to wait for her to put it down to get back into it.  Have any of you read it?
This is by the guy that write with Newt Gingrich sometimes. 

http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765317583/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242099727&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Kara on May 11, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
I bought it on my wife's Kindle and now I have to wait for her to put it down to get back into it. 

http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765317583/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242099727&sr=8-1


I have to ask what you think of the Kindle. Is it worth the price?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Freshman Preppy on May 12, 2009, 09:07:29 PM
The Kindle is ABSOLUTELY worth it.  She commutes each day and has her choice of books, magazines, and newspapers in something that weighs as much as a paperback.  It downloads an entire novel in less than a minute.  I am a book lover but was curious about it.  Went to a high school performance one night and while we were waiting for the show to start, a lady next to us had one.  I asked to look at the display and as soon as we saw it, we knew it was something worth getting.  It looks like paper.  Clear, easy to read.
I sound like an advertisement here!  Anyway, it's a cool toy. 

Think about this:  How many Bug Out Bags can carry 1,500 books? ;)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: union hill on May 12, 2009, 09:17:28 PM
I happen to be reading "One second after" on my Kindle too right now, and can second the recommendation.
In addition to being able to browse and buy the latest books, you can also convert lots of .pdf files (think manuals, etc.) for easy reference.
I've got the LDS preparedness doc on there, for one. Tons of useful free stuff on scribd.

Besides that, when reading a book you can get word definitions, I love that.
You can also use it as a simple "no contract" internet device - surf wikipedia and send email from a gmail account for instance...

You get used to the form factor quickly and it's just great to easily be able to take a large backlog of books wherever you go and have the device keep track of where you are in each, etc.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Mord on May 14, 2009, 12:38:29 AM
I just finished One Second After last weekend.  I really expected this book to be similar to Lights Out.  Instead it portrays an entire towns struggle to survive with a lot less resources.  Definitely one hell of an eye opener when it comes to holes in my preps.  Highly recommend this book!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Petrograde on May 14, 2009, 01:20:40 AM
+1 for ONE SECOND AFTER

In fact, that book is why I started searching for info for prepping.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on May 14, 2009, 05:11:57 PM
Just a reminder to folks, the entire list can be accessed HERE (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0). 

I've tried to keep the list current, if I've missed any shoot me a PM with the book & author & I'll add it. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: CFG on May 16, 2009, 09:56:36 PM
Oh, nice work, DEV.  +1 (as if you needed it.)  ;)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Freshman Preppy on May 17, 2009, 12:41:51 PM
OK, just finished the book(One Second After).  Well worth it BUT scary as can be.  Figured something out real quick; in THAT scenario, it didn't matter if you prepped.  They all ended up in the same place.  They even mentioned people stocking up and prepping.  The community they were considered 'horders'.  They didn't take anything from them, but they considered it.  The 'preppers' we're allowed ration cards (and I believe medicine/protection) until they applied for them AND agreed to have their homes searched for extra food. 
That was the conversation during one of the earlier mayor/police chief meetings.  It took the common sense of one man to say  'Leave them alone until later.  You'd probably lose some people trying to go in there now.'

Anyway, this book puts a whole new spin on how I think about modern day survivalism. 
Off to buy some vitamins!  ;-)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Roknrandy on May 18, 2009, 09:48:35 PM
A brief warning, I was an English major in college and I have written extensively on Cormac McCarthy.

Something that doesn't seem to have been mentioned is that McCarthy is not writing his PAW novel for the same reason that many do.  For instance, I have just finished reading One Second After by William Forstchen, and books like his as well as James Wesley, Rawles' Patriots are books in the novel form intended to convey a message.  In Forstchen's case, the vulnerability of the USA to EMP attack.  As a side note, the book is a decent cautionary tale, but Forstchen is not a good writer.

In McCarthy's case, the novel is intended to be not cautionary/pop-literature, but a literary dealing with the bleak future/nature of man.  Many here, I am sure, can identify at least in part with this message.  The book is depressing because McCarthy sees little worth saving, if indeed it were even possible.  Many take from it an indomitable push to survive, which is certainly there, but taken in relation to the whole of his canon, McCarthy is working towards his feeling on the irredeemable nature of man.  And rather than having hope because of some return the the prelapsarian, McCarthy conveys a picture of us that cannot possibly be born of innocence.  (Take a look at my footer quote for more on this.)

All of that being said, The Road is one of the better PAW novels I have ever read, if not for practical knowledge, then for its examination of the root of our demise.

Also, Alas, Babylon and We are great reads, though the latter is dystopian rather than post-apocalyptic.

I have just finished the audio version of this book and it is good. Highly recommended
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on May 25, 2009, 11:55:26 PM
I just finished "Foreign Enemies and traitors" by Matthew Bracken.
WOW!  No disappointment here!
You will be so angry that you can chew nails.  You will feel pride.  There will be an "ALLRIGHT! WAY TO GO GIRL!! moment.  You will probably cry.  You may wonder if such things can be done by human beings. (Even tho we have seen news reports on TV about events such as those in this book.)

Your patriotism will get a shot in the arm.
FANTASTIC book!!!!!!!
Please check it out.


(yeah, I kind of liked it........................ ;D)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Doc Savage on May 27, 2009, 04:36:48 AM
I am about 70% done with "One second after " and would highly recommend it.  I got the audio version and it is well done.  Very thought provoking.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on May 27, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
I am about 70% done with "One second after " and would highly recommend it.  I got the audio version and it is well done.  Very thought provoking.

Just ordered it.  I should receive it within a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TrashCanMan on May 27, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
I'm 3/4 of the way through - excellent thus far :)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Freshman Preppy on May 27, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
Keep reading.  It will scare you at times.  Lots to think about.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Chemsoldier on May 30, 2009, 11:10:20 AM
Huge +1 for the works of Robert A. Heinlein

Tunnel and the Sky and Farnham's Freehold are the two most directly applicable to survivalism

The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is an outstanding tale of revolution on the moon.

Almost all his works at least touch briefly on preparedness themes in some fashion, sometimes just a glimpse.  His works are nothing if not thought provoking.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TrashCanMan on May 30, 2009, 04:00:59 PM
Keep reading.  It will scare you at times.  Lots to think about.

Excellent book.  Finished it today.  Must put more efforts into preparing!!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Angie on May 31, 2009, 07:20:42 AM
One Second After is the real reason I began prepping.  I downloaded it to my I-pod to listen to on a trip.  It blew me away.  The characters were real people, caught in a nightmare no one had prepared for.  As a result I got on the writer's website which lead me to other website.  So not only have I begun a food storage program, I've bought a gun, am learning to shoot, and learning what I need to know before TEOFWAWKI. 

I only worry I won't have time to gather all I need.  I'd read the Stand and other such books, but somehow they felt like novels.  This one felt real - like it might happen real soon.

I currently reading "Patriot" because of the wonderful information it contains.  The knowledge form both books have prevented me from making mistakes in my prepping activities.

Thanks to the writers.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: nikki1843 on June 08, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
I just finished reading 1 second after.  Great book...I couldn't put it down, stayed up hav the night reading! Its all about te after math of EMP weapons being used on the USA.

This book has made me think more about my preps and made me very thankful that I and my kids are not on any medicaton.

Read the book you won't regret it.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Darkwinter on June 08, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
Did anyone read Republic:A Story of America's Future, and One second After?


SEMI SPOILER ALERT!!!!
Same main character in each story . . .Both men were military.  Both had a wife that died before her time.  Both in small Appalachia towns. Both had a child with an "terminal" illness (at least post SHTF).  I think both lost a leg but don't quote me on that one.  I think one of the authors read the others book!! :)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Freshman Preppy on June 08, 2009, 07:06:11 PM
I did just read One Second After, not Republic.  They do sound close.  The dad in One Sec. After didn't lose a leg, just got an infection in his hand towards the beginning. 
Would you recommend Republic?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Darkwinter on June 08, 2009, 07:08:02 PM
Great book, thought the ending left out a lot.  The author is not done with the second book, so I am hanging.  BUT, I would recomend it, as others have on this thread.  Def. one of those books that makes you think about how fragile society is.

Oh, and it is free on iTUNES as a podcast if you like books on tape.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Freshman Preppy on June 12, 2009, 04:34:44 PM
Is he working on a sequel?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Darkwinter on June 12, 2009, 04:38:10 PM
I think so, there are some chapters written, but I don't know if the author is still continuing the book.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: yrone on June 12, 2009, 07:04:39 PM
Theres been great buzz about One Second After, so I picked up a copy. Hope its as good as everyone says. :-)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Heavy G on June 13, 2009, 08:06:00 AM

Theres been great buzz about One Second After, so I picked up a copy. Hope its as good as everyone says. :-)

I just finished One Second After.  I really liked it.  I don't have much to compare it with, except Patriots, which was OK but a bit overdone.

Now I want to listen to the audiobook version of Lights Out that Jack is working on.

I am also reading Goatdog62's Steele Resolve series, which is posted on this forum for free.  Here is the thread: http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=5503.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=5503.0).  Full disclosure: I gave him a couple of thoughts on the series so I'm biased in favor of it.  But so far it's great.

I learn several important things from each novel.  Plus it's entertaining. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on June 13, 2009, 03:49:50 PM
I keep hoping for a paperback version of "Lights Out". 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Angie on June 14, 2009, 08:36:48 AM
Considering that "Lights Out" is a free internet download from Frugal Squirrel it seems unlikely there will actually be a paperback.  The writer is very very good.  I read the book - right off my laptop while recuperating from knee surgery.  It was excellent.  I want to hear more from the characters.  Hopefully, he'll write a sequel and get it published.  He deserves the credit and income from being a successful writer.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on June 14, 2009, 10:57:02 AM
Considering that "Lights Out" is a free internet download from Frugal Squirrel it seems unlikely there will actually be a paperback.  The writer is very very good.  I read the book - right off my laptop while recuperating from knee surgery.  It was excellent.  I want to hear more from the characters.  Hopefully, he'll write a sequel and get it published.  He deserves the credit and income from being a successful writer.

I totally agree!  More would be great.  (although he has written other - short - stories.) 
While I read it online, it was hard on my eyes. And, you can't take it with you very well.  So, a paperback would not only be easier on eyes such as mine, he could generate more income. (Added to the CDs)
I thought about trying to print it out, but there were WAY too many pages!  I will continue hoping for a paperback version, but, I won't hold my breath.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Hartmann on June 15, 2009, 10:07:33 PM
Considering that "Lights Out" is a free internet download from Frugal Squirrel it seems unlikely there will actually be a paperback.  The writer is very very good.  I read the book - right off my laptop while recuperating from knee surgery.  It was excellent.  I want to hear more from the characters.  Hopefully, he'll write a sequel and get it published.  He deserves the credit and income from being a successful writer.

Yes!  I completely agree.  I liked Lights Out better than Patriots.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: condor on June 27, 2009, 08:05:50 PM
apocalyptic books
One Second After
By William R. Forstchen
one of the better books of its kind
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: gearsource on June 28, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
Hello;

First post, glad to be here.

Some suggestions:

Free Flight by Douglas Terman (one of the best SHTF books I've ever read and nobody's heard of it).

Famine by Graham Masterton

No Blade of Grass by John Christopher

Vandenburg by Oliver Lange

Pulling Through by Dean Ing

The Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail

The Last Canadian by William Heine

I, Martha Adams by Pauline Glen Winslow ( a little girl power in the resistance...)

Testament by David Morrell (early work by author of the First Blood series - Excellent)

The Rift by Walter J. Williams (fantastic)

The New Madrid Run by Michael Reisig

Damnation Alley by Roger Zelazny

The Postman by David Brin

Farnham's Freehold by Robert Heinlein

The Survivalist by Giles Tippette (Good stuff - the author was mostly known for Western themed novels)

Cold Creek Cash Store by Russell Hill

Wheels of Rage by Kurt Saxon (available free here - http://www.kurtsaxon.com/wheels/chapter01.html (http://www.kurtsaxon.com/wheels/chapter01.html)  )

I will post more when I come across them.

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: flagtag on June 29, 2009, 12:24:19 AM
There is a book that I read about on another site that I would like to get:  "Fleeing Hitler: France 1940" by Hanna Diamond.  Checked it out a little on Amazon.  ($26.25) Also @ Chapters.indigo.ca for $7.99  (can't figure that out. Huge difference in price.)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Heavy G on June 29, 2009, 12:54:51 PM

Hello;

First post, glad to be here.


Welcome, gearsource.  Very helpful first post.  Keep it up.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Angie on June 29, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
I have ordered "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.  I heard it was excellent, used copies on Amazon are $50.00!!  I ordered my for a much lower price (34.95 ha ha) and it is still on back order.

Has anyone read it?  Is it that good?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Mad_Man on June 29, 2009, 05:47:34 PM
Here is The Book to read this summer: "Wolf and Iron" by Gordon Dickson

a review from Amazon: The U. S. has been devastated by worldwide financial collapse. Civilization as readers know it has disappeared. Marauding bands are terrorizing the countryside, killing and looting. Jeremy Bellamy Walthers' goal is to cross 2,000 miles of ravaged countryside to reach the security of his brother's Montana ranch. En route he befriends a wolf who becomes a partner and companion via verbal and nonverbal communication. The story deals with Jeremy's interaction with the wolf and the other human survivors of the economic collapse. Dickson has created another superior novel; it's colorful, well written, and peopled with well-developed, multidimensional characters. The wolf is especially fascinating. YAs who have cut their teeth on such works as George's Julie of the Wolves (Harper, 1972) or Mowatt's Never Cry Wolf (Little, 1963) will enjoy this survival story in sci/fi clothing. --John Lawson, Fairfax County Public Library, VA

http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Iron-Gordon-R-Dickson/dp/0812533348 (http://www.amazon.com/Wolf-Iron-Gordon-R-Dickson/dp/0812533348)

One character that I remember was a peddler who traveled from place to place fixing things.  This is probably something we should look into. (I am surprised no one mentioned this book before)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Wilderness on June 29, 2009, 09:25:56 PM
I have ordered "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.  I heard it was excellent, used copies on Amazon are $50.00!!  I ordered my for a much lower price (34.95 ha ha) and it is still on back order.

Has anyone read it?  Is it that good?

Angie, I read it a few years ago and enjoyed it a lot. I think that you will like it. Let me know what you think of it.

The Wilderness
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: OJ on June 29, 2009, 09:31:59 PM
I have ordered "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.  I heard it was excellent, used copies on Amazon are $50.00!!  I ordered my for a much lower price (34.95 ha ha) and it is still on back order.

Has anyone read it?  Is it that good?

I have it, have read it twice, and throughly enjoyed it. 

That being said, there's good and there's bad.

Good:  it does a GREAT job of illustrating both what's possible with firearms (given enough practice), and how much freedom we've already LOST.

Bad:  I thought the stories of actual events (Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.) in the book were EXTREMELY biased, to the point of being cartoonish.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Angie on June 30, 2009, 09:59:42 AM
Thanks, hope I get it soon.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: theaccidentalsurvivor on July 02, 2009, 08:23:01 AM
I have it, have read it twice, and throughly enjoyed it. 

That being said, there's good and there's bad.

Good:  it does a GREAT job of illustrating both what's possible with firearms (given enough practice), and how much freedom we've already LOST.

Bad:  I thought the stories of actual events (Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.) in the book were EXTREMELY biased, to the point of being cartoonish.

Agreed. I have it and its overall a good book, but like any book the author injects his or her bias......... The truth is usually somewhere in the middle..... Anyway..... It is very insightful in that the freedoms lost are real and the fictional laws passed seem plausible given the state of our nation and our "leaders".
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TrashCanMan on July 02, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
Just finished Farnham's Freehold by Robert A Heinlein today.

No spoilers but...  It started off pretty good, got strange for majority of the book and ended weirdly but satisfactory I suppose.

I'd give it a 6 or 7 out of 10

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: theaccidentalsurvivor on July 02, 2009, 03:00:31 PM
Just finished Farnham's Freehold by Robert A Heinlein today.

No spoilers but...  It started off pretty good, got strange for majority of the book and ended weirdly but satisfactory I suppose.

I'd give it a 6 or 7 out of 10



My only complaint with Heinlein and some other scifi authors as that they presuppose you know what things are....... ex: "The dirk sclamped over to the flirg"...... thats not a quote from anywhere, just an example......

the beginning in the place with the people was weird too..... they just gets it on lol!

hope that isnt too much info for people who havent read it yet  ;D
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: yrone on July 04, 2009, 08:12:18 PM
Finished with One Second After. It is a great book. Reveals insights into just how fragile our system is and how easy some things can be broken and how tough it is to break others. Great read and would recommend anyone pick it up :-)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: quietmike on July 04, 2009, 10:05:15 PM
Here are some that are mostly non-fiction survival books. I tend to like first hand accounts better as they give an idea of what to expect and the mind games of a survival situation.


Adrift-76 days lost at sea-Steve Callahan
http://www.amazon.com/Adrift-Seventy-six-Days-Lost-Sea/dp/0618257322/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766201&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Adrift-Seventy-six-Days-Lost-Sea/dp/0618257322/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766201&sr=8-1)

Touching the Void-Joe Simpson
http://www.amazon.com/Touching-Void-Story-Miraculous-Survival/dp/0060730552/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766364&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Touching-Void-Story-Miraculous-Survival/dp/0060730552/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766364&sr=1-1)

Miracle in the Andes-Nando Parrado
http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Andes-Days-Mountain-Long/dp/140009769X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766390&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Andes-Days-Mountain-Long/dp/140009769X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766390&sr=1-1)

Hey, I'm Alive-Helen Klaben
http://www.amazon.com/Hey-Im-Alive-Helen-Klaben/dp/0590026348/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766450&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Hey-Im-Alive-Helen-Klaben/dp/0590026348/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246766450&sr=1-2)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: BerserkerPrime on July 09, 2009, 06:22:20 PM
Just finished Walk-About: A Story of the Future by a new TSP member, Rebecca A. Smith.  Fast read at 84 pages and not bad at all.  It seemed to me a chapter of a much larger story and maybe that was RS's intent though I don't know.  There was not as much asskicking action that I prefer, but I'd recommend that folks give it a try.

Berserker Prime
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Mad_Man on July 09, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
Just finished Walk-About: A Story of the Future by a new TSP member, Rebecca A. Smith.  Fast read at 84 pages and not bad at all.  It seemed to me a chapter of a much larger story and maybe that was RS's intent though I don't know.  There was not as much asskicking action that I prefer, but I'd recommend that folks give it a try.

Berserker Prime

How about a link for the story...
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: BerserkerPrime on July 09, 2009, 09:33:12 PM
How about a link for the story...

http://www.amazon.com/Walk-About-Rebecca-Smith/dp/0557065003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247196601&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Walk-About-Rebecca-Smith/dp/0557065003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247196601&sr=1-1)

Here you MM!
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Mad_Man on July 10, 2009, 06:49:39 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Walk-About-Rebecca-Smith/dp/0557065003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247196601&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Walk-About-Rebecca-Smith/dp/0557065003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247196601&sr=1-1)

Here you MM!

Thanks
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: NoRemorse on September 25, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
(http://www.jonathannicholas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1984.jpg)

1984 by George Orwell

The story follows the life of one seemingly insignificant man, Winston Smith, a civil servant assigned the task of perpetuating the regime's propaganda by falsifying records and political literature so that it appears that the government is always correct in what it says. Smith grows disillusioned with his meager existence and so begins a rebellion against the system that leads to his arrest and torture.

http://www.amazon.com/1984-George-Orwell/dp/0451518659/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253908790&sr=1-6 (http://www.amazon.com/1984-George-Orwell/dp/0451518659/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253908790&sr=1-6)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: NoRemorse on September 25, 2009, 02:09:22 PM
(http://bnp.org.uk/files/2009/07/the-camp-of-the-saints.jpg)

The Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail

The story begins in Bombay, India, where the Dutch government has announced a policy that Indian babies will be adopted and raised in the Netherlands. The policy is reversed when the Dutch consulate is inundated with parents eager to give up their infant children as it would be one less mouth to feed. An Indian "wise man" then rallies the masses to make a mass exodus to live in Europe. Most of the story centers on the French Riviera, where almost no one remains except for the military and a few civilians, including a retired professor who has been watching the huge fleet of run down freighters approaching the French coast. The story alternates between the French reaction to the mass immigration and the attitude of the immigrants. They have no desire to assimilate into French culture but want the plentiful food and water that are in short supply their native India. Near the end of the story the mayor of New York City is made to share Gracie Mansion with three families from Harlem, the Queen of England must agree to have her son marry a Pakistani woman, and only one drunken Soviet soldier stands in the way of thousands of Chinese people as they swarm into Siberia.

http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Saints-Jean-Raspail/dp/1881780074/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253908662&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Saints-Jean-Raspail/dp/1881780074/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253908662&sr=1-1)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: NoRemorse on September 25, 2009, 08:44:47 PM
(http://www.undeadpress.com/bkdeadwater.jpg)

DEADWATER by Anthony Giangregorio (7 Book Series)

When a chemical spill in a small town's water supply causes the town's population to become flesh eating zombies, Henry Watson finds himself thrown into a hell where the living dead walk and want nothing more than to feed on the living.

Now, Henry is trying to escape. With the military on one side and a horde of bloodthirsty zombies on the other, Henry must try to battle his way to freedom. With a small group of survivors to aid him, he will do his best to stay alive and escape the city codenamed: "Deadwater."

http://www.undeadpress.com/ (http://www.undeadpress.com/)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: zendog on October 26, 2009, 06:20:19 PM
Here is some books I have on my bookshelf.  I know some of these are mentioned, sorry.  No judging me. I take all these with a grain of salt.   :)

Shooting and Defense Tactics
--------------------------------------------------------
On Combat by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman
The AR-15 Volume 1&2 by Patrick Sweeney
Total Resistance by Major H. Von Dach
Boston's Gun Bible by Boston T Party
Understanding Firearm Ballistics by Robert A. Rinker
Special Forces Survival Guide by Chris McNab
SAS Survival Handbook (Revised) by John 'Lofty' Wiseman
Light Infantry Tactics by Christopher E. Larsen
The SAS Combat Handbook by Jon E. Lewis
Green Eyes & Black Rifles by Kyle E. Lewis
Long-Range Shooting by L.P.  Brezny

TEOTWAWKI Novels
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Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken
Domestic Enemies by Matthew Bracken
Foreign Enemies and Traitors by Matthew Bracken
Molôn Labé! by Boston T Party
Patriots, A Novel of the Coming Collapse by James Wesley, Rawles
Civil War II by Thomas W. Chittum
A Well Regulated Militia... by John J. Carpenter
Unintended Consequences by John Ross
Indian Creek Chronicles by Pete Fromm

Self-Reliance/Self-Sufficient Books
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You and the Police by Boston T Party
One Nation Under Surveillance by Boston T Party
Starting A New Life in Rural America by Ragnar Benson
A Guide to Canning, Freezing, Curing & Smoking Meat, Fish & Game by Wilbur F Eastman Jr.
When All Hell Breaks Loose by Cody Lundin
How to Survive The End of the World as We Know It by James Wesley, Rawles
The Freedom Outlaws Handbook, 179 Things to do 'til the Revolution by Claire Wolfe
I am Not a Number, Freeing America from the ID State by Claire Wolfe
When Technology Fails by Matthew Stein
Just In Case, How to be Self-Sufficient When the Unexpected Happens by Kathy Harrison
Buid the Perfect SUrvival Kit by John D. McCann

Gardening and Horticulture
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Fresh Food From Small Spaces by R. J. Ruppenthal
The Backyard Homestead by Carleen Madigan
All New Square Foot Gardening by Mel Bartholomew
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Winston on December 17, 2009, 08:43:16 AM
SPOILERS listed at bottom of post.

Somebody mentioned the novels "Level 7", and "War Day".  Both are entertaining to those interested Post Apocalyptic (PA) fiction. 

Level 7 does not offer any "how-to" as far as survival goes.

War Day offers a little "how-to" about radiation and its effects. 



SPOILERS: 

Level 7 is about a group of people who enter a govt underground facility just before a nuclear war and how their society evolves over time.  This complex is very large and its inhabitants are identified by their job skill. (X-117 for example) There is no longer any need for names as we know them.  Any married person gets an "M" tacked onto the end of their name. 
They are in radio contact with other less secure facilities. Less secure in this case means buried less deep.  Eventually radiation seeps down into the other facilities and they stop responding.  Level 7 is the deepest, so they are the last to die.  Radiation eventually kills those in Level 7 also.
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.


War Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war.  The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA.  Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries.  Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993.  In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy.  Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book.  Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc. 
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Professor on December 17, 2009, 03:05:18 PM
SPOILERS listed at bottom of post.
Quote
War Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war.  The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA.  Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries.  Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993.  In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy.  Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book.  Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc. 
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.

War Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war.  The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA.  Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries.  Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993.  In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy.  Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book.  Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc. 
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.


Who was the author?

The Professor
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Winston on December 17, 2009, 06:10:46 PM
War Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war.  The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA.  Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries.  Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993.  In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy.  Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book.  Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc. 
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.



Who was the author?

The Professor


Whtiley Streiber and James Kunetka wrote War Day.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Cool Blue on December 31, 2009, 07:08:57 PM
I didn't see these two mentioned anywhere, forgive me it I missed them:

1) The Walking Dead by Robert Kirkman

A comic book series where the concept is a "never ending zombie movie".  Not so much a "how too survive" story but very interesting from a psychological perspective on how people would react and adapt to such an event.

AMC is also doing a TV series this summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead)


2) Lord of the Flies by William Goldring

One of my favourite books and I believe a realistic portrayal of what might happen when SHTF.  You can enjoy the story at surface value and you can also search for deeper meanings in the parables and allusions it presents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Docwatmo on March 19, 2010, 10:49:24 PM
Man i'm glad this thread exists.  I used to be a voracious reader.  But kids and life kind of got in the way the last 10 years or so. (not a bad thing by any means :) ).  I just really miss horking down novel after novel in my spare time.

I cleaned out our tiny library in high school and got stuck on some really pulpy fiction because its what my father had at home.  I read most of the Mac Bolan stuff at 15 which probably twisted my mind in unfathomable ways but thats a story for a different day LOL.

I read 2 of the "The Survivalist" series but never found the rest.  And was reminded because I was in 1/2 priced books today and found two of the novels (#1 and #5).  I almost picked them up but didn't, now i'm sitting here regretting it.  (I'm a bit type A and would need all the books in the series and read them in order if I did it ::)). 

There was a book I read back then that I just can't remember the name of.  It was pulpy and part of a series but it had an interesting take on the SHTF scenario.  What I remember about the series was that the US had put up a laser defense satalite netowrk and it glitched and shot down every rocket style engine and (I am not sure if I remmber this part correctly) but shot digital type communications devices or broadcasters.  Kind of threw the whole world back into the early to mid 1900's.   It had some very interesting ideas about post event and I always thought it was interesting because it wasn't a complete collapse like so many end of the world books are.    I read 1 book somewhere in the middle of the series and always wanted to go back and read the entire series.  I just for the life of me can't remember it.

I've been digging on amazon and eBay and Google but not having any luck.   If anyone remembers this series, i'd really appreciate the authors name.

I am collecting ebooks right now for downtime.  Most of which are non-fiction, but I wan't to start adding fiction into the mix.

Thanks

Doc
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Mad_Man on March 20, 2010, 07:26:27 AM
Man i'm glad this thread exists.  I used to be a voracious reader.  But kids and life kind of got in the way the last 10 years or so. (not a bad thing by any means :) ).  I just really miss horking down novel after novel in my spare time.

I find this is true too.  Lately, I've been thinking more and more about Lucifer's Hammer.  I need to find a copy and reread
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Heavy G on March 20, 2010, 08:25:14 AM
A random thought: The Survival Podcast is not post-apocalyptic fiction.  It's pre-apocalyptic non-fiction.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Nadir_E on March 20, 2010, 09:49:31 AM
For those who found Jack's recent show on the risks of pandemics interesting, I'd suggest reading "Another Place To Die" (already mentioned in previous posts).  It postulates a world-wide pandemic with the main characters in and around the Vancouver, BC area.  I found it a good read and well thought out.

-N
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Docwatmo on March 20, 2010, 02:57:27 PM
LOL Heavy-G, Great observation  ;D
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Patrolman on March 21, 2010, 08:48:31 PM
My reccomendation is "The Road", by Cormac McCarthy. Excellent read, especially for those of you who are fathers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road)
I have et to see the movie/




I have "One Second After" , by William R. Forstchen lined up after "The Road."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After)
This book is currently being developed into a movie.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Snow Ant on March 24, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
I have just finished buying a large part of the deathlands series by James Axler
I am also collecting the ashes series by William Johnstone and the Endworld series by David Robbins.
All are post apocalyptic books. I really enjoy the political views in the Ashes series
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: helenrt on April 24, 2010, 02:45:42 PM
Would anyone know where to get a complete copy of Pax Americana? I have up to chapter 60, but I think it goes to 84 or 85.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: otowner98 on April 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Just finished "A Canticle for Leibowitz", and I highly recommend it.  Odd ending, but great overall. 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Nadir_E on May 01, 2010, 11:20:21 AM
Just finished Steven King's "Under the Dome" and as stated earlier, the "event" isn't terribly helpful in terms of thinking through one's prep's, but the author's character development and how those characters behave when stressed is useful.  I couldn't help but think in several sections, "Well now, you'd be a WHOLE lot better off right now if you'd stored up X, Y or Z, wouldn't you?"  So, an entertaining read, but not as focused as more traditional SHTF novels.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: The Wilderness on May 01, 2010, 02:00:20 PM
Just finished Steven King's "Under the Dome" and as stated earlier, the "event" isn't terribly helpful in terms of thinking through one's prep's, but the author's character development and how those characters behave when stressed is useful.  I couldn't help but think in several sections, "Well now, you'd be a WHOLE lot better off right now if you'd stored up X, Y or Z, wouldn't you?"  So, an entertaining read, but not as focused as more traditional SHTF novels.

Good observation.

A lot of these SHTF books don't focus on getting ready.

Take what you can from these books, whatever gets you thinking. If you get one good idea, and implement it then you are that much further ahead.

TW
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: helenrt on May 07, 2010, 05:25:55 PM
Anyone know if Thomas Sherry ever came out with a sequel to Deep Winter and Shatter?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Nadir_E on May 07, 2010, 05:48:23 PM
Haven't heard and can't find much on google (unfortunately there's a lot of clutter because of another author named Sherry Thomas).   

I've read Deep Winter and found it "OK" - not great, but not horrible (too much just falls into place for the protagonist, IMO).  Is Shatter worth buying at $35?

-N
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: hydroguy on May 07, 2010, 05:58:09 PM
Hey its called Remnant, you can read it o n his blog. He is up to chapter 46. http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com (http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com). Check it out, only I cant stand waiting for him to post the next chapter. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: helenrt on May 08, 2010, 03:33:39 PM
Hey its called Remnant, you can read it o n his blog. He is up to chapter 46. http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com (http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com). Check it out, only I cant stand waiting for him to post the next chapter. Hope this helps.

When you go on his blog if you email him he will email you the rest of the book.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: hydroguy on May 08, 2010, 09:36:29 PM
Thanks will do that ;D
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: helenrt on June 13, 2010, 05:45:22 PM
Anyone know where I could get a complete copy of "Chaparral Challenge " by Old Bear? I was reading it and all of a sudden it said to be continued. any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Trace B on September 20, 2010, 02:10:22 AM
Didn't see this one listed yet, it's a long one with lots of words and stuff. Plus has Women, Nuclear missles, shipboard gardens and goats.
"The Last Ship" by William Brinkley.

  It's kind of the same storyline as Nevil Shute's "On the Beach" but on board of a guided missle destroyer.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: tombo5671 on September 20, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
How about "The Road"  By Cormac Mcarthy

That, is a PAW book if I ever read one. 



MUCH better than the movie!!

A MUST read.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: tombo5671 on September 20, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
I have an e-book question.  I have a good start of hard copy survival books, about 50, too many to bug out with, on a broad range of topics.  I also recently purchased an iPad and downloaded the Kindle application.  I am looking to expand my survival library; however, I am torn between buying hard copies of the books (tangible things) and downloading the e-books.  The e-books could all fit in my bug-out-bag in fragile Kindle form.  I am weighing the power requirements and vulnerability of the iPad verses having to pick only one or two books to take with me.  I guess everything is prone to failure in extreme enough conditions – like if I had to swim a river with my books in my pants.  Then again with enough money and space I could seal my iPad in a pelican case.   I don’t have a BOL yet where I could cache books.  This may be an un-problem.  I am in the hurricane belt and my most likely Scenario is that I return home to find my survival library a pile of mush – I think I just answered my own question.

Anyway - what information are you planning to bug out with and in what form are you carrying it?

How will you protect your library if you have to leave it behind?

Jack, could this be a show question, I would love you input?

Forgive me if this has been covered before - I am new.

Tom form Florida.
Title: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: sprintermike on September 28, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
I'm sure this has been a topic before, but I'm looking for fiction books to keep me motivated/thinking...
I've read Patriots (great), One Second After (very good), On the Beach (ho-hum), and am going to order Alas Babylon (not on Kindle).
What other fiction recommendations are out there?
Title: Re: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: fratermus on September 28, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
The only fiction recommendation I would make in the apocalyptic/survival vein would be  Canticle for Leibowitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz).

Title: Re: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: sawtac on September 28, 2010, 09:50:18 PM
Lucifer's Hammer

Lights Out
Deep Winter
Shatter
Remnant
Title: Re: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: phuttan on September 28, 2010, 10:08:10 PM
Lucifer's Hammer
Wolf and Iron
Last of the Breed
Title: Re: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: Dan on September 28, 2010, 10:23:48 PM
Walk-About
The Road
Title: Re: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: Sarey on September 29, 2010, 04:03:03 PM
Lucifers Hammer.
Title: Re: Book recommendations (FICTION)
Post by: endurance on September 29, 2010, 04:38:18 PM
World Made By Hand & the second in a planned four part novel series by Kunstler, The Witch of Hebron.

Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Roswell on September 30, 2010, 08:17:48 AM
Merged
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: sprintermike on September 30, 2010, 10:36:06 AM
Any info on lucifers hammer, i got the free kindle preview and it is SLOW. Is there a pickup to the action?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Hraz on September 30, 2010, 02:01:35 PM
Quote
Any info on lucifers hammer, i got the free kindle preview and it is SLOW. Is there a pickup to the action?

Don't quit, it picks up. I almost stopped reading it as well, but then it gets really good.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: LvsChant on October 29, 2010, 09:04:46 AM
The only fiction recommendation I would make in the apocalyptic/survival vein would be  Canticle for Leibowitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz).



Just ordered it...
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Wrangell on November 25, 2010, 09:50:04 PM
Just got done reading "Rohan Nation, Reinventing America after the 2020 collapse" by Dr. Drew Miller.

The book is just under 500 pages with plenty of action. I really enjoyed it. Dr Miller covers a lot of ground and while the book is fiction, there is quite a bit of history covered including insight into what some see coming from a collapse from a political standpoint. This guy is very well versed on the military end of things as well.

While not a horse person myself, the author uses them as the title and focus of this book and on how they are used in a post collapse scenario.
http://www.amazon.com/Rohan-Nation-Reinventing-America-Collapse/dp/0984370900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290746951&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Rohan-Nation-Reinventing-America-Collapse/dp/0984370900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290746951&sr=8-1)


Also just finished reading

"Patriots"
"One Second after"
3/4 of the way through "On the Beach"
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Morning Sunshine on November 26, 2010, 07:58:07 AM
my 9-yo son loves the "kid on his own in the wilderness" books.  I have been reading them with him, and am pleased to see the survival skills talked about in them, and for young readers.  I think for kids, there is something empowering about living by yourself and surviving..  Some have been mentioned here:

Hatchet (and sequels)
My side of the Mountain (and sequels)
Island of the Blue Dolphins
Julie of the Wolves
Dogsong

and a surprising new one (except that it is OLD): Swiss Family Robinson.  Not talking the movie here, but the original book.  they are there for 9 years, and much of the narrative is details of how the father uses items he has either scavenged from the ship or found on the island to improve their lives.  He goes into great detail about how they used vines and how he joined them and created useful items.  I would highly recommend it for the survival library.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: m6996j23 on January 10, 2011, 05:36:48 AM
the story on stories on line "sol" called "bird song" is a good one i havent seen suggested it is good and free you can find it alphabetically or by catagory search. also "up from the depths" is a story in progess i am reading there.  here is a link to it.  use this link, as i find it hard to get to other wise.  http://storiesonline.net/story/61934:i (http://storiesonline.net/story/61934:i)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: phuttan on January 10, 2011, 09:36:25 PM
I have an e-book question.  I have a good start of hard copy survival books, about 50, too many to bug out with, on a broad range of topics.  I also recently purchased an iPad and downloaded the Kindle application.  I am looking to expand my survival library; however, I am torn between buying hard copies of the books (tangible things) and downloading the e-books.  The e-books could all fit in my bug-out-bag in fragile Kindle form.  I am weighing the power requirements and vulnerability of the iPad verses having to pick only one or two books to take with me.  I guess everything is prone to failure in extreme enough conditions – like if I had to swim a river with my books in my pants.  Then again with enough money and space I could seal my iPad in a pelican case.   I don’t have a BOL yet where I could cache books.  This may be an un-problem.  I am in the hurricane belt and my most likely Scenario is that I return home to find my survival library a pile of mush – I think I just answered my own question.

Anyway - what information are you planning to bug out with and in what form are you carrying it?

How will you protect your library if you have to leave it behind?

Jack, could this be a show question, I would love you input?

Forgive me if this has been covered before - I am new.

Tom form Florida.



I have Kindle, Nook, Adobe and a generic e-book reader on my phone. I also have an extensive hand copy library. I'm starting to move to a combination of hard copy and e-book libraries. Like you said, the Kindle is to convient to ignore. I will always have a hard copy library, but I'll be building up a huge e-book library also.

As far as what to get for Kindle, I would try to get copies of anything that would be useful for a long term bug out. If you read something hard copy and feel that you can't be without it, get the e-book also. I plan to use a thumb drive to store the e-books and apps so I can use them on multiple devices. You probably want to look into a solar charger for your kindle if you plan to use it for bug outs. You might also want to look at what is available for free to start with.

As far as how to protect the hard copy library, I've stored books in boxes in a dry area for decades with no apparent ill effects. For a bug out, you'd probably want to pack them in water proof containers and put them out of sight.

Pat
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: LvsChant on January 13, 2011, 02:34:36 PM
Just a reminder... many of these books are listed in "The Repository" here:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0)
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Pathman on January 24, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
Is Lucifer's Hammer a Young Adult book?  Seems when I do a search at my library for "Survival Fiction" most of the books that come up are marked YA which is young adult in my library.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: LvsChant on January 24, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
No... I would not call Lucifer's Hammer a young adult book. I enjoyed it a great deal and would recommend it.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: TimSuggs on January 27, 2011, 05:51:43 PM
Not a classic, but a decent read with survival as the mainline.  AND he's a personal friend of mine too.  Check out To Aid and Protect here... http://www.rkylehannah.com/ (http://www.rkylehannah.com/)

Tim.
And NO, I don't get any kickback.  Might buy me a cup of coffee though.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Pathman on February 16, 2011, 10:27:19 AM
Just finished Lucifer's Hammer.  Still not sure why this was in the Teen section and is on the recommended reading list for teens at the library.  Not hard core but does have some sex and violence.  Probably not at much as they see on video games and TV anyways.  The slow beginning leading up to the comet strike would probably stop many teens from finishing it.  But I liked it.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Eichenlaub on February 16, 2011, 10:57:49 AM
I'd have to say all the recommendations so far are great.
The few I haven't read are on my list.
 
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Mr. Red Beard (UKtheBUNNY) on June 15, 2011, 12:24:47 PM
I'm just about finished reading When All Hell Breaks Loose by Cody Lundin which has been a source of great information. I'm liking a lot of the reviews posted here and on other threads http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0).........

But if you had to 1 book to recommend that is a must have, useful and entertaining read what would it be?
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Chemsoldier on July 17, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
Just got done reading "Rohan Nation, Reinventing America after the 2020 collapse" by Dr. Drew Miller.

The book is just under 500 pages with plenty of action. I really enjoyed it. Dr Miller covers a lot of ground and while the book is fiction, there is quite a bit of history covered including insight into what some see coming from a collapse from a political standpoint. This guy is very well versed on the military end of things as well.

While not a horse person myself, the author uses them as the title and focus of this book and on how they are used in a post collapse scenario.
http://www.amazon.com/Rohan-Nation-Reinventing-America-Collapse/dp/0984370900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290746951&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Rohan-Nation-Reinventing-America-Collapse/dp/0984370900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290746951&sr=8-1)



I read it and dont feel I wasted my time or money.  However I found it fairly flawed.  The plot was action packed but with an extreme amount of dialogue.  There was a definite need of editing. He references a few lines of America The Beautiful as from the Star Spangled Banner.

Worth a read, definitely learned a lot about horses.  Too bad cars dont appear to be as vulnerable to EMP (especially when turn off) as he treats them in the book.  Of course his book has the EMP in 2020 and cars may be more vulnerable by then.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: FreeLancer on July 17, 2011, 04:28:52 PM
Coming-of-age readers interested in survival fiction should look at Lost in the Barrens by Farley Mowat.  It's similar to My Side of the Mountain and Island of the Blue Dolphins.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: fasteddie on July 17, 2011, 07:35:11 PM
what about the patriot , surviving the coming collapse , by james wesely rawles
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: idelphic on July 17, 2011, 08:32:24 PM
what about the patriot , surviving the coming collapse , by james wesely rawles

Just finished it.. I thought it was a pretty good read.  I managed to finish it in a week.  Like many books I've read, there were some parts I didn't like, but hey - it's part of the read.
Title: Re: Classic survivalist or post apocalyptic books
Post by: Veritas on July 18, 2011, 08:05:02 PM
I'm just about finished reading When All Hell Breaks Loose by Cody Lundin which has been a source of great information. I'm liking a lot of the reviews posted here and on other threads http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0).........

But if you had to 1 book to recommend that is a must have, useful and entertaining read what would it be?

concurr completely