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Title: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 06, 2017, 08:07:43 PM
Okay, I can't be the only one.  Got interested in prepping, immediately bought some of the most bizarre gear I could find, and started looking for abandoned missile silos for sale.  Right?

This is the place to confess.  I'm currently clearing out stuff from closets and cupboards, and rediscovering some of my questionable acquisitions from 20 years ago.

One of the very first prepping items I bought was...

(http://statler.ws/P1010327a.jpg)

...mortar shell carrying thingies!  Indestructible airtight storage for, um, something.  I had spare wiper blades for a small car in one of them for a while.  Big enough to hold 3 little cans of beans each.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Ken325 on February 06, 2017, 08:55:02 PM
I bought an AR during the panic a few years ago.  Not at the height of the panic, but I paid $1100 for a $600 gun and I got a model that I really don't like.  I'm tempted to sell it but that would just make me feel worse about the deal.  I keep it because you can always use a back up, but I am unhappy with my self. 

I didn't buy a lot at this price but I bought some silver when it was $40 an ounce.  That one also makes me mad. 

I could also mention my house.  I bought a 1000 square foot town home near Dallas just before I got into prepping.  It is not the worst possible choice because the community has a serious outer wall and a solid gate.  It is also bordered by a small lake on one side.  But I am half a mile from a whole bunch of run down apartments.  My neighbors are good about watching out for people who don't belong in the gated community but most are female and elderly.  I don't think it would be easy to talk people into standing guard duty.  I also have a small yard and HOA rules on things like garden size and HAM radio antennas.  Another good feature is I am within walking distance of a light rail station that makes my commute easy.  I could actually survive without a car if I had to and I think that is a good thing.  Still I need a bug out location in the country.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: NWPilgrim on February 06, 2017, 11:59:44 PM
I got into prepping in the late 1980s and ramped through the 1990s.  Before the 1994 AWB I bought some MAK90s and PTR91 and a boatload of mags.  Those are not stupid in themselves, I like them in fact.  But in the 2000s I got back into the AR15 platform and that makes a ton more sense for me and I rarely use those earlier rifles.  They were only $240 each and mags were like $1 so it was a cheap way to ramp fast but in the long run I would have been better off with one good AR15 set up at the time.  I'm passing them on to children and grandchildren and suspect they will rarely get used by them either.  Also bought a couple of 98 Mausers for $150 I thought I would gunsmith into 6.5x55 and .308 hunting rifles but it never happened.

After many years I began to think our water storage was over the top having never needed it.  Then one winter storm our water supply line burst and it took the plumber a few days to put in a permanent replacement. Now, I know you can never have too much water!

I was tempted to get those military surplus tubes, too, but never could figure out what I would put in them or where I would bury them.  But they sure seem cool, very well constructed.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: endurance on February 07, 2017, 12:15:02 AM
By far the dumbest thing I ever did was dig a fallout shelter after jackhammering a 3x3' hole in my basement wall in 1990.  I dug about three feet in and lost interest for a few months, then spring arrived one day.  The ground thawed and I had a not-so-minor mudslide into my basement.  I managed to shore it up temporarily at first, but in the end, it cost me a few hundred dollars to have a contractor repair the foundation and another couple hundred dollars to replace the carpet that was ruined from the mudslide.

Second to that was buying 450 pounds of wheat in the late 1980s to early 1990s.  I have eaten less than 10 pounds of it in almost 30 years and I've had to move it over a half-dozen times.

Third would be the building materials I spent about $200 on and put on National Forest to build a cabin in the mid-1990s.  The road I used to get to the site was closed by the forest service a year later and while I could hike three miles into it, it's several hundred pounds of materials that I'm sure are rotting and rusting away (yes, I feel guilty for littering at this point).

Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Chemsoldier on February 07, 2017, 03:36:43 AM
I purchased 4,200 rounds of 5.45x39 Russian surplus ammo in spam cans.  I totally blame Heavy G and 299 Days.  I was totally thinking of getting an AK-74 for alternate rifle for the family.  I started playing with AKs and realized that they were not terribly ergonomic or adjustable without extensive modification.  An AR would be easier to work with and cheaper.

I then doubled down on stupid and purchased a 5.45x39 AR Upper.  The upper came with one mag, getting more mags is expensive and the quality of the mags was sketchy, less reliable than I considered adequate for classes.  Also, the rounds were filthy and corrosive.

I now have ARs for the whole family and no need for all this ammo or the upper.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: DaMeteor on February 07, 2017, 08:49:18 AM
Dumbest thing was a 1000 pack of alcohol wipes. First thing I bought when I got into prepping. Then I realized "Damn. Why would I ever need this, I already have like 100 alcohol wipes at home" LOL. I still have no idea why I bought it. Could've bought more canned beans/soup with the money I spent on that ;_;
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: NWPilgrim on February 07, 2017, 01:19:46 PM
Dumbest thing was a 1000 pack of alcohol wipes. First thing I bought when I got into prepping. Then I realized "Damn. Why would I ever need this, I already have like 100 alcohol wipes at home" LOL. I still have no idea why I bought it. Could've bought more canned beans/soup with the money I spent on that ;_;

They make nice fire starters!
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 07, 2017, 01:34:01 PM
They make nice fire starters!

Oh yeah, that reminds me...

(http://statler.ws/P1010328a.jpg)

Saving cotton dryer lint for firestarting.  Theoretically useful, but I live in an area where, 11 months out of the year, if you start a fire it will immediately spread to 200,000,000,000,000 acres, which is why I just leave the bag of lint in the bedroom. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 07, 2017, 01:45:17 PM
Dumbest thing was a 1000 pack of alcohol wipes. First thing I bought when I got into prepping. Then I realized "Damn. Why would I ever need this, I already have like 100 alcohol wipes at home" LOL. I still have no idea why I bought it. Could've bought more canned beans/soup with the money I spent on that ;_;

If you were local I'd buy them.  My son is insulin dependent, and does 5-6 injections daily. I buy a couple thousand annually from amazon subscribe and save.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: DaMeteor on February 07, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
Well that makes since your son is Insulin dependent but for me I still don't remember exactly how many alcohol wipes I have. I know that it's between 1,000 and 2,000 though. But hell maybe if they're flammable I can use em as a lamp or something (idk lol, might be useful!)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 07, 2017, 04:25:17 PM
Well that makes since your son is Insulin dependent but for me I still don't remember exactly how many alcohol wipes I have. I know that it's between 1,000 and 2,000 though. But hell maybe if they're flammable I can use em as a lamp or something (idk lol, might be useful!)


From what I can tell they won't expire.  At some point they begin to dry up.  We are trying to get him on an insulin pump soon.  So we'll get down to only 2 daily finger pokes.
Poor kid is super skinny, but everyone else in the family could stand to lose weight.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: DaMeteor on February 07, 2017, 04:28:56 PM
Well good luck on your son, I wish the best for him  :) Sad that where people don't need things they get it and it's detrimental (like obesity in the U.S. and overabundance of food) and other places they don't get it and it's detrimental (starving kids in Africa and junk like that).
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: nkawtg on February 07, 2017, 04:41:07 PM
A backpack for bugging out.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDM0MA==/z/8mgAAMXQVT9Ss9TN/$_35.JPG?set_id=2)

At my age, where the heck do I think I'm going with that pack!!!
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 07, 2017, 05:35:28 PM
...At my age, where the heck do I think I'm going with that pack!!!

Yup, we did that one too.  We were younger and could possibly have walked 5 miles with no pack. ;D  Loaded up our giant packs with all our "essential" bugout gear, stumbled around the house for 5 minutes... um, oops.

We had a fantasy about escaping from government agents on foot, across the sagebrush and the wheat fields, with no planned destination.  I don't think we could have made it as far as the edge of town.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Ken325 on February 07, 2017, 06:14:09 PM
I have seen people try to go camping using rolling luggage instead of a backpack.  It really did not work well.  Having said that I have a large, heavy duty, rolling plastic toolbox that I use to keep a lot of my gear in. I figure I could pull it while wearing a backpack if I had to.   

You can always come up with a plan that doesn't require carrying a lot of gear.  I think the run into the woods like your going camping plan that a lot of people seem to have is a very bad idea.  It would be much better to have an RV or go to a prepared location with all your stuff already located there. 
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: mountainmoma on February 08, 2017, 12:16:02 AM
hm, not a dumb purchase maybe, but one of the first firearms I bought was a Mosin Nagant, I was going off a list of getting 4 basic guns to cover most needs/usages for under $1000 (total, the idea being a .22rifle, a handgun, a shotgun, a Mosin...) I also got 2 cans of surplus ammo. Luckily the S did not HTF right away, and after a few years (meaning this year) I was able to sell it and upgrade to a rifle that should be more suitable to my size. No money lost, and if things had gone that bad that fast, we would have been glad of it, but a bit much for my size. I need more ammo now for the replacement. that Mosin ammo was very cost effective, I no longer have so many rifle rounds.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 08, 2017, 05:38:57 AM
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q639/kb5wmy/Instant%20water_zpsdzpus1pr.jpg) (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/kb5wmy/media/Instant%20water_zpsdzpus1pr.jpg.html)   :facepalm:

Actually,I bought a water distillation and filter system from a well company for pennies on the dollar though NOW it works great at the BOL.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 08, 2017, 11:10:30 AM
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q639/kb5wmy/Instant%20water_zpsdzpus1pr.jpg) (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/kb5wmy/media/Instant%20water_zpsdzpus1pr.jpg.html)

I actually have the triple-beam balance that's in the background of that picture.  It wasn't specifically a prepping purchase, but it was part of a larger prepping mistake: start a home-based business that requires expensive equipment to make crafts products that can only be sold at a low price, then plan to move to a population-20 town and live off the crafts income.

The balance is occasionally useful and looks cool, though. ;D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 08, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
I actually have the triple-beam balance that's in the background of that picture.  It wasn't specifically a prepping purchase, but it was part of a larger prepping mistake: start a home-based business that requires expensive equipment to make crafts products that can only be sold at a low price, then plan to move to a population-20 town and live off the crafts income.

The balance is occasionally useful and looks cool, though. ;D

Make up for the low priced crafts by selling more volume.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 08, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
Make up for the low priced crafts by selling more volume.

Or higher-quality in smaller volume.  My wife and I were young(er) and innocent.  We were sure that our nerdy technical skills were all we needed for success and riches.  We were pretty oblivious to the business/pricing/marketing side of things.

In case anyone cares: Glyptica (http://statler.ws/glyptica/glyptica.htm), our business failure from 2 decades ago.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: AvenueQ on February 08, 2017, 05:58:28 PM
Or higher-quality in smaller volume.  My wife and I were young(er) and innocent.  We were sure that our nerdy technical skills were all we needed for success and riches.  We were pretty oblivious to the business/pricing/marketing side of things.

Struggling with this now. I'm currently in the paralysis-by-analysis stage.

On the original thread topic, I bought a Walther PPK .22 a few years ago on a bit of a whim (with some encouragement from some like-minded work friends). I like how it looks and feels in my hand, and I liked that it was a smaller caliber, but in taking it out I discovered that it jams A LOT. Now, I've only taken it out once, but I have a feeling this may not be a problem solved by putting more rounds through it, or even taking it to a gunsmith. From what I understand, .22 bullets aren't made with the most precision, which works just fine for a rifle with a less complicated mechanism. However, with a semi-auto pistol, and all the machinations of making that work, it just might not be the best choice. Now I'm thinking I should've bought the thing in a 9mm instead.

Kind of nit-picky, but I fortunately haven't made too many dumb impulse tacticool purchases  ::)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: FreeLancer on February 08, 2017, 07:47:58 PM
You remember back in the early 2000's?  When the really bright tactical lights were an eye-searing couple hundred lumens and cost $$$ from SureFire?  And they burned through non-rechargeable batteries that cost $$?

Well, I've still got $$$$'s worth of that stuff.  Lights, weapon lights, shotgun forend light, vertical foregrip lights, 300+ CR123 cells.  Stupid!!!
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: endurance on February 08, 2017, 08:09:55 PM
You remember back in the early 2000's?  When the really bright tactical lights were an eye-searing couple hundred lumens and cost $$$ from SureFire?  And they burned through non-rechargeable batteries that cost $$?

Well, I've still got $$$$'s worth of that stuff.  Lights, weapon lights, shotgun forend light, vertical foregrip lights, 300+ CR123 cells.  Stupid!!!
Well, it seemed like a bright idea at the time.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 08, 2017, 09:03:44 PM
Well, it seemed like a bright idea at the time.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 08, 2017, 09:22:18 PM
You remember back in the early 2000's?  When the really bright tactical lights were an eye-searing couple hundred lumens and cost $$$ from SureFire?  And they burned through non-rechargeable batteries that cost $$?

Well, I've still got $$$$'s worth of that stuff.  Lights, weapon lights, shotgun forend light, vertical foregrip lights, 300+ CR123 cells.  Stupid!!!

I use the rechargeable now.  $12 a piece pays for itself quickly.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Chemsoldier on February 08, 2017, 09:59:26 PM
Struggling with this now. I'm currently in the paralysis-by-analysis stage.

On the original thread topic, I bought a Walther PPK .22 a few years ago on a bit of a whim (with some encouragement from some like-minded work friends). I like how it looks and feels in my hand, and I liked that it was a smaller caliber, but in taking it out I discovered that it jams A LOT. Now, I've only taken it out once, but I have a feeling this may not be a problem solved by putting more rounds through it, or even taking it to a gunsmith. From what I understand, .22 bullets aren't made with the most precision, which works just fine for a rifle with a less complicated mechanism. However, with a semi-auto pistol, and all the machinations of making that work, it just might not be the best choice. Now I'm thinking I should've bought the thing in a 9mm instead.

Kind of nit-picky, but I fortunately haven't made too many dumb impulse tacticool purchases  ::)
You need no justification for trying a PPK. Be it James Bond or Sterling Archer...PPKs are cool.  Whether they work, or work for you is another matter.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: FreeLancer on February 08, 2017, 10:34:40 PM
I use the rechargeable now.  $12 a piece pays for itself quickly.

That's the smart way. Back then a gen1 pair of Tenergy rechargeables performed so poorly and got so hot when charging that I didn't trust them. Thus the stockpile of primaries. It would be nice if SF had reasonable LED upgrade option, but you can get several brand new lights with better performance from their competitors for what they charge. Maybe they've come to their senses since I last looked, but they pretty much missed the LED/Li-ion boat and left me with some beautifully made (in the USA), but hopelessly obsolete pieces of aluminum.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 08, 2017, 11:01:14 PM
You remember back in the early 2000's?  When the really bright tactical lights were an eye-searing couple hundred lumens and cost $$$ from SureFire?  And they burned through non-rechargeable batteries that cost $$?

Well, I've still got $$$$'s worth of that stuff.  Lights, weapon lights, shotgun forend light, vertical foregrip lights, 300+ CR123 cells.  Stupid!!!

I own and carry a Walther TPH ,(much smaller than my Walther PP in 32 acp) and both a flawless when held in a solid grip. The 22 is 100% reliable for me with the Aguila 60 grain SSS .22 caliber rounds and hits like a sledgehammer. Most problems with 22 feeding is magazine lip damage with small frame weapons.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on February 19, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
So far I haven't regretted buying anything except for maybe too many peanuts in cans.
Hard to eat up that many peanuts, though I haven't had any spoiled yet, as they haven't expired ...yet.

I do enjoy talking/asking people about their blunders in buying, so I can learn more.
Most don't seem to be willing to fess up. Lol
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: fritz_monroe on February 19, 2017, 06:26:43 PM
I have several 6 gallon buckets of wheat berries in the basement under the stairs.  I decided that I may need these in TSHTF.  Of course we all know how long 5 buckets of wheat berries without a grinder will last.

Also rushed out after Obama was elected to get my semi-auto pistol.  Yes it's useful and there's not really a reason to not have a firearm, but in my state, there's little chance of me ever getting a carry permit.  But it's pretty stupid to rush out to get a pistol just because the asshole-in-chief has changed.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: NWPilgrim on February 19, 2017, 11:46:06 PM
Also rushed out after Obama was elected to get my semi-auto pistol.  Yes it's useful and there's not really a reason to not have a firearm, but in my state, there's little chance of me ever getting a carry permit.  But it's pretty stupid to rush out to get a pistol just because the asshole-in-chief has changed.

True if that is the only reason you got it. Or you got a compact model for carry that may never happen instead of a larger one for home defense.

But, if you planned to get it eventually, then expediting the purchase would not have been a bad idea.  Depending on the model it may not have been available again for another couple of years due to other people stocking up.  And those were dark days.  We had just had TARP bailouts which should have caused tar and feather riots and seemed sure to crash the economy.  And we just elected a Marxist trained nobody.  There could have been a lot more civil disruptions and violence.  So not unreasonable to add some personal "insurance" in such troubled times.

After the primaries in 2007 I figured it was bad either way so I started accelerating my purchases I had planned for the next few years.  I got AR15s and mags completed just before the election.  While everyone was buying up AR15s I was buying rifle and handgun ammo.  By the time the masses were cleaning out shelves of ammo I was increasing stocks of reloading components.  When those next started being depleted I was buying bricks of Blazer and CCI Mini-Mag .22LR for $15/$18.  So I stayed about 3-6 months ahead of the crowd, buying stuff at the then "normal" prices.  Most of it has come back down to near the same prices ($800-$900 for quality AR15, $15/50 .40S&W FMJ ammo) except for the .22LR.  Most pistols are selling for $50-$100 more than they did in 2008.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: bcksknr on February 20, 2017, 04:26:32 AM
     It's not the types of individual items, it's the amount. I'm probably borderline obsessive about my "hobby", but I have more "survival kits" than I have pairs of socks. My wife calls my workshop "Aisle Five", as in a sporting goods store. Shelves full of supplies; if it hits the fan, we'd need a semi to bug out. I seem to have developed the ability to fit ten pounds into a five pound bag, as it were. I've never regretted the purchases, have at one time or another used (or at least thought about using) them. I'm pretty sure I can make everything work and everything seems to be useful (or might be in a SHTF scenario). 
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on February 20, 2017, 08:13:21 AM
I think most of my regret buying is in tool purchases and such, not food supplies and such.
Those handy gizmos that looked handy at the time, but got store in a shop drawer and never used. There's thirty bucks spent you'll never get back, type of purchases
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: danimal on February 20, 2017, 10:15:57 AM
Everyone needs doodads! NEEEEEEEDS.....

Or more drawers to store them in. I have too many campfire cooking devices, etc. that are not helpful, useful or necessary. Telescoping grilled cheese maker...what was I thinking.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on February 20, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
 :rofl: :facepalm: :rofl:

I'm in the process of eliminating.  Ebay and Craigslist.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Greekman on February 21, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
You remember back in the early 2000's?  When the really bright tactical lights were an eye-searing couple hundred lumens and cost $$$ from SureFire?  And they burned through non-rechargeable batteries that cost $$?

Well, I've still got $$$$'s worth of that stuff.  Lights, weapon lights, shotgun forend light, vertical foregrip lights, 300+ CR123 cells.  Stupid!!!

cell them in CPF....I bet half of them will go easily at a good price and fast.
I sold my regular C2 flashlight in a few minutes!
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: fritz_monroe on February 21, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
True if that is the only reason you got it. Or you got a compact model for carry that may never happen instead of a larger one for home defense.
Yep, the main reason I bought it was that Obama got into office.  Would I have gotten it anyway?  Maybe.  But the main reason was Obama.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 21, 2017, 11:32:25 PM
Storage food I never ate.  I probably donated 20 lbs of dried beans I had stored to the food bank.  We don't eat a ton of beans and preparing the dried ones was a lot of work when "wet" cans are ready to eat.

I still keep some in rotation, but that was taking a lot of space I didn't have.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on February 22, 2017, 09:29:56 AM
We've decided to cut way back on the beans, after finding some that were like granite.  :facepalm:


Cooked em and still coulda used em to pave the driveway with.

So no more 5 gallon buckets of em
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 22, 2017, 09:58:09 AM
We've decided to cut way back on the beans, after finding some that were like granite.  :facepalm:


Cooked em and still coulda used em to pave the driveway with.

So no more 5 gallon buckets of em

When coarse ground and brought to a boil,then left to soak 2 hours before boil again the beans can be palatable.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on February 22, 2017, 10:36:29 AM
Thanks. Yes read that somewhere. May have been you, don't remember.  ;D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Greekman on February 22, 2017, 11:32:42 AM
made the mistake to store canned food in a storage room away from a house. I even made 1-day food packets.
And then forgot about them for 5+ years.
I ate the spam, but the other foods had the ingredients fuse together (the rice was colored by the rest of the incredients) Safe to eat but disgusting,
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: surfivor on February 22, 2017, 11:47:36 AM

 I think I used to do stuff like start buckwheat under grow lights in February .. That seems silly now but I had no gardening experience at the time.

Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: FreeLancer on February 22, 2017, 01:04:50 PM
cell them in CPF....I bet half of them will go easily at a good price and fast.
I sold my regular C2 flashlight in a few minutes!

I need to check that out.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 22, 2017, 01:29:59 PM
I may have overstocked on good quality sheath knives at EIGHT..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PGZ0130/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 


and 4 of

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CBWQ0C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and 10 of the Moras

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SROLRDK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

but I don't need to sharpen the whole bunch very often....and they are good trade goods...
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: rogersorders on February 22, 2017, 09:01:26 PM
Butterfly, double burner, kerosene stove, with "oven" and Butterfly kerosene lamp. I hate the smell of kerosene, I live in suburbia, I'm in the military and move every 2-4 years. Not only is it impractical because I can't store/move a fuel that I never use but I have to see this big box of stuff every time we move.

Sun Oven. Not a bad thing, used it a few times. Really more of a novelty than anything else. But if the power ever goes out and I have to cook and the sun's out, I'll be good.

This is a great thread. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: FreeLancer on February 23, 2017, 01:32:36 AM
I just finished a much needed ammo inventory and discovered 5000 rounds of 12ga 00 buck.  This is what happens when your stimulus to start prepping is being freaked out about Y2k, can only afford a Walmart riot gun, and you use DOOM as your reference guide for firearms purchases.   What the hell was I thinking? 
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 23, 2017, 09:55:13 AM
I just finished a much needed ammo inventory and discovered 5000 rounds of 12ga 00 buck.  This is what happens when your stimulus to start prepping is being freaked out about Y2k, can only afford a Walmart riot gun, and you use DOOM as your reference guide for firearms purchases.   What the hell was I thinking?

I keep a few boxes of heavy buckshot just because.  I am also guilty of buying walmart 12ga shells, but usually the target loads when they are $19.99 for 100 rounds.  I also have a couple boxes of clay pigeons when I found them for $4.99/box.    I guess during the apocalypse #9 target might work on little stuff like squirrels :)

Slightly off topic, but I don't recommend firing a primed, but empty shotshell.  I had a few boxes of very old (1970s?) shotshell primers someone gave me, and I manually inserted them into some spent shells.  While the primer did fire, it made a foul mess of the chamber and barrel.  Look like it sat in a campfire for an hour.  It also ruined the plastic shell, as the sides partially melted.

Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: mountainmoma on February 23, 2017, 10:55:36 AM
Butterfly, double burner, kerosene stove, with "oven" and Butterfly kerosene lamp. I hate the smell of kerosene, I live in suburbia, I'm in the military and move every 2-4 years. Not only is it impractical because I can't store/move a fuel that I never use but I have to see this big box of stuff every time we move.

Sun Oven. Not a bad thing, used it a few times. Really more of a novelty than anything else. But if the power ever goes out and I have to cook and the sun's out, I'll be good.

This is a great thread. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

On the Sun Oven, pull it out this year and try and use it all the time, once you get used to the rythm in the summer it is a huge timesaver, and keeps from overheating the house. I used my first one so much, I bought a second. A sun oven will work like a crock-pot or like a bread maker for setting and leaving, when you aren't home.   For times when you are around the house, you can make quicker items like hard boiled eggs or cookies.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 23, 2017, 10:59:38 AM
I like cookies. :P
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: David in MN on February 23, 2017, 12:21:11 PM
Knives.

I went through a decade where I had to have every pocket knife. I can't even guess at the numbers or the cost but I've got piles of Kershaws, Benchmades, Spydercos, Sogs, Gerbers, CRKTs, 5.11s, Bokers, Ka-Bars, S&Ws, etc.

And then I hit a wall. It's just silly to keep buying knives once you have working ones that will outlive you. It was this forum and some real help from folks like Freelancer and Carl who got me to pare down to a Swiss Army Outrider for EDC and a Mora for garden work. If I want a tactical knife I'll lean on my Sog Trident or a CRKT M21-14SF depending on the blade size I want.

The remaining knives are in a box (or given away to friends).
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: LVWood on February 23, 2017, 12:59:52 PM
I like cookies. :P

(https://media.makeameme.org/created/i-want-cookies-p7lgpi.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 23, 2017, 01:02:11 PM
I just donated blood and helped myself to TWO cookies.  I also got my vitals taken for free.
Such a deal...
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: AnnsSolo on February 23, 2017, 01:05:48 PM
On the Sun Oven, pull it out this year and try and use it all the time, once you get used to the rythm in the summer it is a huge timesaver, and keeps from overheating the house. I used my first one so much, I bought a second. A sun oven will work like a crock-pot or like a bread maker for setting and leaving, when you aren't home.   For times when you are around the house, you can make quicker items like hard boiled eggs or cookies.

I need to get mine up on a table. And maybe make a lazy susan for it. Somewhere we have the lazy susan hardware. I should set it up in the unheated greenhouse now and see how it works.

WRT to beans, freshness makes a huge difference. I noticed this first when I bought some fancy pants beans from Rancho Gordo, and then when I started buying bulk beans from Azure Standard. Often if I soak them, they fall apart in the recommended cooking time. Grocery store beans have generally been in the food distribution system for so long they do become like rocks.

My biggest mistakes so far are all the things I've bought and then bought again because I forgot/couldn't find the original.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 23, 2017, 02:40:13 PM
I just donated blood and helped myself to TWO cookies.  I also got my vitals taken for free.
Such a deal...

How much blood will get me two cookies? I like cookies.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 23, 2017, 02:41:52 PM
How much blood will get me two cookies? I like cookies.

1 pint apparently.  I should have asked for a pint of beer.  That would have gone further than usual given the reduced blood supply  :beer:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: LVWood on February 23, 2017, 02:45:34 PM
Good thinking...
Cookies will do though.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on February 23, 2017, 02:48:27 PM
Would it have to be MY blood?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on February 23, 2017, 03:19:46 PM
Would it have to be MY blood?

Your blood is no good here.  But I'm happy to donate on behalf of folks who are unable.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on February 23, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
Could a guy that used to be called the cookie monster, get some cookies without bleeding all over the place?  :excited:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Morning Sunshine on February 23, 2017, 05:47:10 PM
canned butter.  I have a whole case of it downstairs that is now 8 years old.  It smells good when we open it, but goes rancid quickly.  I should use it for baking.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: LVWood on February 23, 2017, 05:53:17 PM
I hear virgin coconut oil has a pretty good shelf life.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 23, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
canned butter.  I have a whole case of it downstairs that is now 8 years old.  It smells good when we open it, but goes rancid quickly.  I should use it for baking.

Thanks for that bit of knowledge.

I have canned ghee (in small quantity).  I store it in the fridge after opening (actually, before opening too, although that's probably unnecessary), and it doesn't go rancid over a period of months.  Using it mostly for popping popcorn. :popcorn: Yum!
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: mountainmoma on February 23, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
canned butter.  I have a whole case of it downstairs that is now 8 years old.  It smells good when we open it, but goes rancid quickly.  I should use it for baking.

I've 3 -- not very old tho -- so, maybe I should just rotate it and use instead of fresh ?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: endurance on February 26, 2017, 11:03:16 AM
canned butter.  I have a whole case of it downstairs that is now 8 years old.  It smells good when we open it, but goes rancid quickly.  I should use it for baking.
I ran into this exact same problem with dried milk. I bought some obscene amount in the early 1990s, like 10 cases (for just two people).  I initially drank it as my normal milk, so it may have had a chance at rotation every four or five years, but after I moved closer to town it was easier to buy store-bought milk and it sat for about 15 years. When I tried it again, it tasted good at first, but would sour in just one or two days in my fridge. Very strange. I tried several other cans and it did the same thing.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Morning Sunshine on February 26, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
I ran into this exact same problem with dried milk. I bought some obscene amount in the early 1990s, like 10 cases (for just two people).  I initially drank it as my normal milk, so it may have had a chance at rotation every four or five years, but after I moved closer to town it was easier to buy store-bought milk and it sat for about 15 years. When I tried it again, it tasted good at first, but would sour in just one or two days in my fridge. Very strange. I tried several other cans and it did the same thing.

I use my dry milk in recipes - my family will not drink the stuff.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: endurance on February 26, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
This was good stuff. I think it had potato flour added to make it thicker. When I first got it I loved it, but it didn't age well.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on March 29, 2017, 06:01:25 PM
Bump for a good thread....


Local church bucket'ed up whole corn from the combine, in 1990.
Talk about rocks.......it's some hard stuff.
I'm trying to get them to replace it. I tried grinding it into cornmeal, and had to run it through the grinder 3 times. It was ok when used though. Made decent cornbread.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on March 29, 2017, 08:15:16 PM
  I 'fatten up' my powdered milk with powdered creamer and find it acceptable and worth the calories.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 13, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
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Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on April 13, 2017, 07:00:02 PM
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Fly speck ?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 13, 2017, 07:03:55 PM
Yea. Jumped off my desk and landed on your monitor. Sorry.   :D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on April 13, 2017, 07:08:27 PM
Yea. Jumped off my desk and landed on your monitor. Sorry.   :D

Gotta' have humor after we dropped a Mother of all bombs on Afghanistan today ...largest non nuke bomb made to destroy a cave network and arms storage...lotta' specks on that target now.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 13, 2017, 07:12:52 PM
Yep. Seen a picture of it posted somewhere. (The bomb) It took up the better part  of a lowboy trailer.  ;D
Hopefully they injected some chit in it so that would get spread around the bomb site.  ;D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: JimNKC on April 13, 2017, 09:46:04 PM
I buy the 5 gallon buckets of black beans from Auguson Farms from Walmart online, free shipping to the house and they last a while. We soak them usually for 12+ hours before cooking, but I could eat black beans most every day. My wife has done some meals and not soaked them long enough, and then they were tougher than I prefer. A favorite meal of mine is when she cooks beans, rice, some ground beef, and throw some cheese and sour cream on a big burrito shell... can leave out the cheese and cream if needed and still fills you up. :)

Silly prepper things I've done though... with 5 year old twins we can put away some milk... so I used to rinse well every gallon jug, then dry and store a bunch of them to make 72 hour food kits for the family. I also filled maybe 20 of them up 7/8 with RO water and froze them in the huge freezer we have. (That part at least HAS helped when we had a power outage last summer for a day or so.

We've decided to cut way back on the beans, after finding some that were like granite.  :facepalm:


Cooked em and still coulda used em to pave the driveway with.

So no more 5 gallon buckets of em
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on April 14, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
I buy the 5 gallon buckets of black beans from Auguson Farms from Walmart online, free shipping to the house and they last a while. We soak them usually for 12+ hours before cooking, but I could eat black beans most every day. My wife has done some meals and not soaked them long enough, and then they were tougher than I prefer. A favorite meal of mine is when she cooks beans, rice, some ground beef, and throw some cheese and sour cream on a big burrito shell... can leave out the cheese and cream if needed and still fills you up. :)

Silly prepper things I've done though... with 5 year old twins we can put away some milk... so I used to rinse well every gallon jug, then dry and store a bunch of them to make 72 hour food kits for the family. I also filled maybe 20 of them up 7/8 with RO water and froze them in the huge freezer we have. (That part at least HAS helped when we had a power outage last summer for a day or so.

Milk jugs 'break down' and are most often weak...one and two and even 3 liter cola bottles are stackable,tough,and don't break down over time...better recycle choice...and my SAWYER FILTER screws right on top of all of them.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 14, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
I quit the milk jugs for regular water storage. Had too many that leaked. Most were slow leaks, slow enough you didn't notice. Bottom would be moist, dry up as it leaked. Pretty soon (maybe a year) you would notice the jug was only 3/4 full.  ???
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on April 14, 2017, 09:29:58 AM
I quit the milk jugs for regular water storage. Had too many that leaked. Most were slow leaks, slow enough you didn't notice. Bottom would be moist, dry up as it leaked. Pretty soon (maybe a year) you would notice the jug was only 3/4 full.  ???

A local farm supply store near me sells used soda barrels like these for < $20
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0d/08/95/0d0895aeab86c3511feb4684605a266c.jpg)

Mine are like the one on the left.  I prefer those to the bigger 55gal, as I can move them around (still heavy).
I rotate the water annually.  Not a long term solution, but it's good backup for a family.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 14, 2017, 10:51:28 AM
Sweet. What is that, about 15-20 gallon?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on April 14, 2017, 11:42:29 AM
A local farm supply store near me sells used soda barrels like these for < $20
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0d/08/95/0d0895aeab86c3511feb4684605a266c.jpg)

Mine are like the one on the left.  I prefer those to the bigger 55gal, as I can move them around (still heavy).
I rotate the water annually.  Not a long term solution, but it's good backup for a family.

Nice Jugs....
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: LVWood on April 14, 2017, 11:52:52 AM
Nice Jugs....

Oh stop!
 :spit:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Smurf Hunter on April 14, 2017, 12:23:16 PM
Sweet. What is that, about 15-20 gallon?

I believe they are 15 gallons. 
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 14, 2017, 02:45:37 PM
Thanks. Hey can someone slap Carl?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Morning Sunshine on April 14, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Thanks. Hey can someone slap Carl?  ;D ;D

 :badgarden:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Ms. Albatross on April 14, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
Thanks. Hey can someone slap Carl?  ;D ;D
:badgarden:

Thanks Morning Sunshine.  :)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 14, 2017, 04:28:07 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on April 14, 2017, 06:17:06 PM
I was not talkin' dirty.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 14, 2017, 06:20:33 PM
I was not talkin' dirty.

I know. Was just razzin ya.  ;D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on April 14, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
all good,I deserve a bit as I give a lot.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: bcksknr on April 15, 2017, 12:58:55 PM
     Because of the recent tensions with NK, I opened up my RADEF ammo can to check on my radiation meters. Yes, I know, they are from the Cold War (Civil Defense Issue) and probably aren't close to being calibrated anymore. But hey, it's what I've got for now. I never store items with batteries installed. However, the alkaline "D" cells had disintegrated into powder; they were from 2009. Luckily they were double bagged and didn't damage anything. The 22 1/2 volt carbon batteries (now obsolete) were intact, but dead. One meter takes a single "D" cell. The other two each take a "D" and two 22 1/2 volt cells. I can get new manufacture alkaline 22 1/2 volt cells for about 10 bucks each; cheaper than making up packs with 9 volt batteries in series.
     Given their age ,although carefully stored and in good condition and dubious reliability, I'm not sure if I want to drop the 40 bucks to have batteries for them. I should just bite the bullet and buy a new, proven unit. So, don't store anything electronic with batteries installed.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: LVWood on April 15, 2017, 01:02:55 PM
all good,I deserve a bit as I give a lot.

We are more than happy to oblige...
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on April 15, 2017, 02:13:18 PM
...radiation meters...

Oh yeah, that reminds me of another not-so-bright prepping purchase: a Heathkit Geiger-counter kit that I bought when Heathkit was liquidating itself.

Buying it wasn't so stupid.  Leaving it unbuilt ever since then was stupid. :facepalm:  If I'd assembled it promptly, there might have still been a chance of sending it off to be calibrated.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on April 16, 2017, 08:14:51 AM
HeathKit. Gad I haven't heard that name in years. I used to ruin their catalog by drooling on it.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Bradbn4 on August 31, 2017, 08:10:37 AM
Okay, I can't be the only one.  Got interested in prepping, immediately bought some of the most bizarre gear I could find, and started looking for abandoned missile silos for sale.  Right?

This is the place to confess.  I'm currently clearing out stuff from closets and cupboards, and rediscovering some of my questionable acquisitions from 20 years ago.

One of the very first prepping items I bought was...

(http://statler.ws/P1010327a.jpg)

...mortar shell carrying thingies!  Indestructible airtight storage for, um, something.  I had spare wiper blades for a small car in one of them for a while.  Big enough to hold 3 little cans of beans each.

Anyone else?


I have a few of those tubes; found them to be real useful to store my fishing poles.  I did pickup a few hard cases for a laptop.  The cases did not come close to working for that purpose; but I have a few small toy drones, aka quad copters that it is a perfect fit.

The only use the drones have been are to chase the squirrels around the yard.  To tell the truth; that is why I bought them....pure fun and a sub-100 dollar price. 
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on August 31, 2017, 08:22:14 AM

I have a few of those tubes; found them to be real useful to store my fishing poles.  I did pickup a few hard cases for a laptop.  The cases did not come close to working for that purpose; but I have a few small toy drones, aka quad copters that it is a perfect fit.

The only use the drones have been are to chase the squirrels around the yard.  To tell the truth; that is why I bought them....pure fun and a sub-100 dollar price.

Lol. I have 2 of the paper tubes. Can't sell em, give em away.  :o

Squirrels...drones. Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 06, 2018, 02:26:41 PM
I guess Sterno isn't exactly "Dumb prepping stuff you bought", except in my household. 8)

Found six 20-year-old cans of Sterno in our utterly-out-of-date "go" bags.  I can't remember the last time I used Sterno for anything -- maybe the fondue set somebody gave us around 1982?  If you shake it and hear a sloshy sound, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Oh well, time to see what it does.  I want a cup of tea anyway, so I'll try using Sterno to boil the water.  I'll just set the teapot on a... wait.

Hmm.

<digs in cupboards for 10 minutes>  Ah, a 2-quart pot, with a cake rack on top.

<lights Sterno, puts cake rack and teapot on top, Sterno goes out because no air>

<digs in cupboards and closets for 10 more minutes>

<realizes that the fondue set is the only object in the house suitable for use with Sterno>

<remembers taking fondue set to Goodwill in 1988>

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: mountainmoma on June 06, 2018, 02:55:59 PM
I guess Sterno isn't exactly "Dumb prepping stuff you bought", except in my household. 8)

Found six 20-year-old cans of Sterno in our utterly-out-of-date "go" bags.  I can't remember the last time I used Sterno for anything -- maybe the fondue set somebody gave us around 1982?  If you shake it and hear a sloshy sound, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Oh well, time to see what it does.  I want a cup of tea anyway, so I'll try using Sterno to boil the water.  I'll just set the teapot on a... wait.

Hmm.

<digs in cupboards for 10 minutes>  Ah, a 2-quart pot, with a cake rack on top.

<lights Sterno, puts cake rack and teapot on top, Sterno goes out because no air>

<digs in cupboards and closets for 10 more minutes>

<realizes that the fondue set is the only object in the house suitable for use with Sterno>

<remembers taking fondue set to Goodwill in 1988>

 :facepalm:

My dad had a can of sterno with a small 2 cup pot in his go bag. I think you light the sterno and HOLD the pot over the flames until the stuff inside the pot gets hot. Not ideal, but for emergency use when stuck.

For you at home, I would think you would want to balance the cooling rack on things on teh corners to give the sterno air, like a can of soup under each corner of the cooling rack. And use a small pot
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 06, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
I'll grab a few bricks from outside and give it another try tomorrow.

During power outages we've used a little 1-burner Coleman propane camping stove -- I wouldn't want to give that a lot of indoor use, but it works fine for heating up a teapot of water.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on June 06, 2018, 08:27:31 PM
ha ha ha ha...............no help from me. I've never owned nor seen a sterno in action.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Zef_66 on June 07, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
During power outages we've used a little 1-burner Coleman propane camping stove -- I wouldn't want to give that a lot of indoor use, but it works fine for heating up a teapot of water.
FWIW, our main cook stove is propane and we use that in our inside kitchen all the time without any ill effects. Even when using 3-4 burners making soup or canning, the digital CO detector never sees as much of a blip off 0.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 07, 2018, 03:15:32 PM
FWIW, our main cook stove is propane and we use that in our inside kitchen all the time without any ill effects. Even when using 3-4 burners making soup or canning, the digital CO detector never sees as much of a blip off 0.

Yeah, I'm not all that worried about CO from one little burner that gets used for 10 minutes.  I'm more concerned about accidents like propane leaks, knocking the pot off the tiny stove, setting the cat on fire, etc.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on June 07, 2018, 05:04:51 PM
  I have a recipe for that somewhere.....
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Redman on June 07, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
  I have a recipe for that somewhere.....

You have a recipe for setting the cat on fire? Is it tasty?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 07, 2018, 08:12:17 PM
You have a recipe for setting the cat on fire? Is it tasty?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Okay, speaking of flaming cats...

I have one of those Mr. Heater "Buddy" propane heaters that is supposed to be indoor-safe as long as you've got a little ventilation (which I can hardly avoid in this stupid house).

How do I make this not be a "dumb prepping stuff I bought"?  I do literally have to worry about the cat lighting his tail on fire, because I don't know if he's smart enough to keep his distance.  I also have to worry about him knocking it over.  I'd rather not set it directly on our carpeted floor anyway -- feels too risky.  It can be mounted on a wall (if I can find some studs the right distance apart).

(It's amusing to look at all the pictures on the box that show people using the heater exactly in ways the instructions tell you to never do -- next to a sleeping bag, a few inches away from some candles, etc.)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Ken325 on June 10, 2018, 10:24:10 PM
I have one also. I use it to heat my garage (workshop) in the winter and also on some camping and hunting trips.  It is a good thing to have if you have electric heat and the power goes out.  I would worry a little about using it in my house.  I have tile in the kitchen and no pets so that would be OK.  I am not 100% sure I would trust it not to produce CO and poison me in my sleep.  I would use it carefully along with my fireplace it the power went out.  Probably a good prep if you have no other alternative to heat your house if the power or gas go out.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on June 11, 2018, 06:09:59 AM
  Too many lawyers looking for suits. I have not had or heard of any problems with using a catalytic heater though I would not go to sleep with one in operation.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: David in MN on June 11, 2018, 06:34:21 AM
  Too many lawyers looking for suits. I have not had or heard of any problems with using a catalytic heater though I would not go to sleep with one in operation.

I keep one in my jacket pocket all winter. The Zippo hand warmer can be just the thing if I have to be outside at a sporting event or ice fishing. I have found the catalytic type heater pretty safe. Just be careful where you leave them and don't let them run while asleep.

As is usually the case, most things are pretty safe if you follow the safety protocols. We've litigated out the really dangerous products.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Carl on June 11, 2018, 06:40:16 AM
I keep one in my jacket pocket all winter. The Zippo hand warmer can be just the thing if I have to be outside at a sporting event or ice fishing. I have found the catalytic type heater pretty safe. Just be careful where you leave them and don't let them run while asleep.

As is usually the case, most things are pretty safe if you follow the safety protocols. We've litigated out the really dangerous products.

I picked up a four slice electric toaster not long ago and right there on the box it said"not for use in shower or bathtub"  so it must be pretty safe. ::)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: archer on June 11, 2018, 08:06:35 AM
I picked up a four slice electric toaster not long ago and right there on the box it said"not for use in shower or bathtub"  so it must be pretty safe. ::)

well damn, i wanted to save time and eat breakfast while I shower.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 11, 2018, 08:36:11 AM
  Too many lawyers looking for suits. ...

Warning on a box of nails.  Be sure to read the Supplemental Warning.

(http://statler.ws/nailwarning.JPG)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Redman on June 11, 2018, 08:58:55 AM
Warning on a box of nails.  Be sure to read the Supplemental Warning.

(http://statler.ws/nailwarning.JPG)

It doesn't say anything about having wars with nail guns. When I worked at a box company summer while in high school we would hold back the thing on the tip with one hand and fire it with the other hand. The nails would go a pretty good way and hurt too if you got hit.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: archer on June 11, 2018, 10:53:19 AM
Warning on a box of nails.  Be sure to read the Supplemental Warning.

(http://statler.ws/nailwarning.JPG)

is this for real?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Redman on June 11, 2018, 04:58:13 PM
is this for real?

I doubt it but I can envision it in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: David in MN on June 11, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
I doubt it but I can envision it in the not too distant future.

Can't be real. No warning about operating while impaired...
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 11, 2018, 07:34:52 PM
is this for real?

The image has been on my computer since 2005 -- did they have Photoshop back then?  ;D

Goolge finds a few different photos and typed-out versions of this from 2004-2005.  Apparently Halsteel really did put this on their boxes of nails.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: archer on June 12, 2018, 08:23:31 AM
The image has been on my computer since 2005 -- did they have Photoshop back then?  ;D

Goolge finds a few different photos and typed-out versions of this from 2004-2005.  Apparently Halsteel really did put this on their boxes of nails.

quite amusing...
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: mountainmoma on June 12, 2018, 01:22:31 PM
does buying a few copper rounds count....
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: archer on June 12, 2018, 03:32:51 PM
does buying a few copper rounds count....

i bought a few also, the tsp ones, they are cool..
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mederos154 on June 11, 2019, 03:02:51 AM
Survivalism, the practice of preparing for a crackup of civilization, tends to evoke a certain picture: the woodsman in the tinfoil hat, the hysteric with the hoard of beans, the religious doomsayer.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Morning Sunshine on June 11, 2019, 06:32:08 AM
thanks for bumping this thread.  I re-read it from the beginning, and miss Carl - he always had a laugh for us.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 11, 2019, 08:55:01 AM
Survivalism, the practice of preparing for a crackup of civilization, tends to evoke a certain picture: the woodsman in the tinfoil hat, the hysteric with the hoard of beans, the religious doomsayer.

And the forum spammer from India with 4 accounts.  What would prepping be without spam?

Quote stolen from here, if anyone's interested:
The New Yorker, 1/22/17: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich)

Thank you for the thread bump, and farewell! 8)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on June 11, 2019, 09:24:14 AM
And the forum spammer from India with 4 accounts.  What would prepping be without spam?

Quote stolen from here, if anyone's interested:
The New Yorker, 1/22/17: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich)

Thank you for the thread bump, and farewell! 8)


Lol. Bill is whacking moles again!!! Lol  ;D


Speaking of spam.....Dollar Tree has spam can size luncheon loaf for a buck, and it's not bad.....not bad.  ;D
I usually pick up a couple for the storeroom when I'm in there.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: rustyknife on June 13, 2019, 02:14:52 PM
It doesn't say anything about having wars with nail guns. When I worked at a box company summer while in high school we would hold back the thing on the tip with one hand and fire it with the other hand. The nails would go a pretty good way and hurt too if you got hit.
                    On the back of my car sun reflector it says not to use while driving...............seriously?
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on June 13, 2019, 08:53:24 PM
                    On the back of my car sun reflector it says not to use while driving...............seriously?

There have been a couple of times when I backed out of a parking spot, shifted into Drive, and found my vision strangely obscured...
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on July 21, 2019, 03:46:09 PM
Lets see..........canning up 24 pints of *green salsa* cause the wife says she likes it.

3 years later, there's 23 pints in the storeroom, and one pint in the frig half used.  ::)

And, for some stupid reason, we steamed and canned a load of tomato's.
Yes, canned the juice only. It's still sitting here.  ::)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Mr. Bill on July 21, 2019, 04:47:05 PM
Heh, that reminds me of the canned meat in the cupboard...

Yoder's Hamburger

Description:  28 oz can of cooked ground beef.  Based on the nutrition label, it appears they start with raw 85/15 hamburger, seal it in the can, and bake it (probably under pressure so the cans don't blow up).  The result, when opened, is a big chunk of crumbly finely-ground hamburger meat, about 5 fl oz of thick broth, and about 2 tablespoons of fat (which is on top, and can be spooned out and discarded unless you need the extra calories). ...

My opinion:  quite satisfactory for incorporating into recipes that call for ground beef. ...

...as a long-term storage food, I'll have no problem using a can every now and then.

Yeah.  We used a can every now and then, until we developed such an aversion to the horrific flavor that we never wanted to experience it again.  There's just something weird about it.  Remember in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy where the food machine produces "a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea"?  This is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike hamburger.  Use it to make tacos and it will overwhelm the strongest taco seasoning flavor.  If you're old enough that you grew up eating canned spaghetti sauce with meat, you can use the Yoder's meat and a jar of meatless sauce to re-create a memory from your youth.  I really don't know why we're saving our 6 remaining decade-old cans, unless maybe to use them as ammunition in a catapult.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on July 21, 2019, 05:01:36 PM
  I really don't know why we're saving our 6 remaining decade-old cans, unless maybe to use them as ammunition in a catapult.



 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

But maybe you should stock more. If you use 3 cans for practice, then a battle shows up, those 3 remaining cans will go quick.  ;D
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Gamer on August 30, 2019, 08:14:50 AM
I bought this fancy "hybrid" bike a few years ago (a cross between a mountain bike and a road bike) in case I need to get outta town in a hurry, it cost about double an ordinary bike and I bought it on the spur of the moment when I saw it in the bike shop, mainly because I liked its dull grey colour (good camo when camping in woods).
Mistake!
Because it's so fancy, I had to buy a whole new set of special new tools for it, and even worse it needs 3 different spoke lengths (one size for front wheel and 2 sizes for the left and right side of the back wheel), so it'll be a nightmare fiddling with spoke replacement on a cold rainy night because the sizes are hard to tell apart by just a couple of millimetres length.
Also if I break down in the middle of nowhere, there's no guarantee that the nearest bike shop would have the fancy fittings or spokes I need.
I've still got the bike but am tempted to sell it off at a loss and buy a simple uncomplicated cheap bike instead..:)

PS- notice the three welded lugs under the crossbar that carry the rear brake cable, they mean that carrying the bike across streams and fences hurts because the lugs stick in my shoulder..

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/myth-rhe_zpsocv9i0cc.jpg~original)


Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on August 30, 2019, 09:00:18 AM
Looks like it has enough open space to retro a engine on it Gamer, then you could really motor around.  ;) ;D ;D
I'm not a bike fan anymore, so don't have any other suggestins.


Speaking of prep items......maybe I'll start another thread.
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Gamer on August 31, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
I'm not a bike fan anymore, so don't have any other suggestins..

Mate, when there's no more fuel around for vehicles in a SHTF world I can guarantee you'll need a bike to get out of the city before the starving mobs have you for dinner..:)
As a wise man once said- "A bike! A bike! My kingdom for a bike!"

PS- I used to be in a cycling club before I got old and lazy and haven't been on a bike for years, but I get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing mine is sitting there in the corner for when I might need it,,:)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/FamilyBikingZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on August 31, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
We do have an old Schwinn with flat tires...er.....the wife does.
And, we have horses. May have to eat those......
Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Gamer on September 01, 2019, 09:05:30 AM
..And, we have horses. May have to eat those......

A man's gotta do..

Title: Re: Confessions: Dumb prepping stuff you bought or did
Post by: Stwood on September 01, 2019, 09:28:39 AM
Ayup. Switch to plan B if A goes into FUBAR mode.