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Title: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 13, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
Yes, I am a whiskey guy. I love bourbon and Scotch. Can't stand Irish and Canadian but don't let that deter you. Feel free to share your whiskey of choice. As I write this intro I have a dram of the only blended Scotch I will drink in front of me. Johnny Walker Black. It's one thing Winston Churchill and Christopher Hitchens got right. Vanilla and Peat with a velvet mouthfeel. Truly a great.

Not that it's my favorite Scotch. That honor belongs to Bowmore 15 year. Peat is the hallmark of Islay and only Bowmore has Islay peat casked in sherry barrels. Bruichladdich's many great varieties are a close second.

Not that I hold America lower. Taste an Elija Craig 12 year and you can tell me anything. I taste blueberry pie in it. And I'll never turn down a Wild Turkey with its honey/kiwi flavor. And of course I have some fondness for the burnt maple syrup that only Jack Daniels could offer. It remains a staple with my parents. And I love the minty oilyness of Jim Beam Black.

So what say you, imbibers? Any favorites worth hunting out? I'd love to expand my palate.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: outoforder2day on September 13, 2017, 07:49:21 PM
I'm by no means an expert, but my current top shelf choice is Glenlivet Archive 21. Rich and smooth. I try to get a bottle once in a while to celebrate special occasions with, but at $200+ it's not doable often. My last bottle was a gift from a whole team at my last job when I left. I miss those guys...

Others that I really enjoy, in no particular order, are:
Tullamore Dew (probably more due to good memories, but hey.)
Glenmorangie 18
Green Spot (really a surprise here: affordable and excellent.)
Johnny Walker Blue (another pricey one, but it's good stuff. Worth trying a bar for the experience but I'm not sure I'd spend the money on a bottle anymore.)
Eagle Rare (Yeah, it's a bourbon... So?  ;D )

I'm not a fan of smoke in my drinks, so I prefer little to no peat. I just never developed the taste for it... at least not yet. I do try them when I get a chance.

Recently I've been on a gin kick, though. Not sure if I should throw those in here or start a new thread for that.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 13, 2017, 08:11:34 PM
I've had the Glenmorangie 18. Impressive stuff. Legend has that they hired a French perfume expert to describe the aroma.

Johnny Blue... Been there, still prefer the black. It really is a preference for peat and smoke, isn't it. The Blue is so light and clean with very low phenols it (to me) is almost apricot with other fruit on the palate.

Thanks for the Green Spot call. I'll look that one up.

Eagle Rare... Yup, it is good. It's like textured caramel on the tongue.

Rock on with gin. I love it too.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: mountainmoma on September 14, 2017, 02:01:02 AM
My kids like Maker's Mark

Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: fritz_monroe on September 14, 2017, 09:41:41 AM
Tullamore Dew (probably more due to good memories, but hey.)
Ugh, this stuff can really sneak up on you.  I got a bottle about a year ago and it was so smooth, that I woke up out on the couch.  I don't remember a lot.

Johnny Walker Blue (another pricey one, but it's good stuff. Worth trying a bar for the experience but I'm not sure I'd spend the money on a bottle anymore.)

Hopefully this picture comes through.

My father in law had this in his office.  We just cleaned the office out and my mother in law told me to take it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZWhVxR9kbAgg6BgynF32ixnCU5CbMTvfqdTSw3oX3kskVEwUK2Na8xMZ7bK4EG5mlR0abCFxF1ApJbHkJcq9KWoKbiixDHPZf-4i-rRZbz4Aq1YliCgPPfvlRHU_2NjmLV4ykQRHVRJNoOUIq4BPjq019l78MHCEjWtx1rfw2DWprUY4liUCnCzcUC1ZwcHILb8GARIyi3YLnLnVXkXtWCIZtN8sXeTBLEn9jYqFKzm2_UJeOr9NfptCoki0Gc1vKodbjFolSrL_ArsKUja3xwUkLl0pGoU67VFz_K9w6JR4wNuYgiYzl8gFY160cxnJGx2XSqt0yoQo7_gbEWl3SWp30HT-KIvmdedQN2QDvp4Zk9mPLvII4LVp0yzexAXl8Cf6pxJDKwuGs7MU3I3nqg2ykuBgayPmSquyN_LbcP0VQ-XLKYWraeOmxFwylJT3fg3njVPD33ufsajBJjks-UY5kgcrpMV6vbubWIfn8fNlp_Bwzzp2_lRN1v9wXToaG7XC2bP63O9XhoiOKapISPUWStD4bDZQClP5Fb7pCJO29eQCIHckB17ASsE8wcubVtsCxKwQasN-MtcwhwCgO2L0_RDYQHGfp0Ryhbbj6w=w1159-h869-no)

That would be $3000 retail price.  There were a bunch of other stuff there as well.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 14, 2017, 09:58:28 AM
Blue Label and Royal Salute? Expensive taste. Chivas doesn't get the credit that bottle deserves. Interesting that the really old premium blends tend to drift to the light and perfumy rather than the heavy, dark, peaty single malts I tend to prefer. Maybe the heavy stuff just doesn't age well.

My father in law is like that too. Blue Label, Royal Salute, Glenmorangie 18, etc. When I bring him something like Ardbeg or Highland Park he can barely take a sip.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: LVWood on September 14, 2017, 10:31:19 AM
I'm no connoisseur but I like the heavy, dark, single malts.
On the fortified wine front, a good tawny port works for me.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: fritz_monroe on September 14, 2017, 11:03:41 AM
Blue Label and Royal Salute? Expensive taste.

All was FREE.

His good friend was a high roller in Atlantic City.  Brought him back a bottle every time he went.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 14, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
I'm no connoisseur but I like the heavy, dark, single malts.
On the fortified wine front, a good tawny port works for me.

Long time ago I used to collect/trade vintage ports along with other wines. Noval was always my favorite. These days I'm too cheap to blow money like that but every now and again I'll pick up an LBV for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: mountainmoma on September 14, 2017, 12:53:36 PM
 ok, I was wrong, the one they all realy like is Bulleit Rye. They like
Makers' Mark, but usually now finds too sweet.

Blanton's Bourbon is also liked, but nothing as much as the Bulleit Rye.


Some around here realy like the Venus Gin #1, dont know if you can get it out of state
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Mintbird on September 14, 2017, 01:28:33 PM
ok, I was wrong, the one they all realy like is Bulleit Rye. They like
Makers' Mark, but usually now finds too sweet.

Blanton's Bourbon is also liked, but nothing as much as the Bulleit Rye.


Some around here realy like the Venus Gin #1, dont know if you can get it out of state

I used to drink Makers Mark and Blanton's but my brother brought me some Bulleit Rye and I'll never go back.  :happydance:
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Chemsoldier on September 14, 2017, 02:55:25 PM
I am a Bushmills fan.  I tend to like the Irish to the Scotch.

I do like the Gin also, Martinis in particular. I really can't tell a difference between shaken and stirred and I do prefer it with vermouth.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: fritz_monroe on September 14, 2017, 04:56:43 PM
ok, I was wrong, the one they all realy like is Bulleit Rye. They like
Makers' Mark, but usually now finds too sweet.
I like Makers.  It's a wheated whisky, so there's not a much bite as other bourbons have. 
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 14, 2017, 05:14:15 PM
I like Makers.  It's a wheated whisky, so there's not a much bite as other bourbons have.

I like Maker's and I actually don't prefer a wheat whiskey. But they did a marvelous job both on the grain bill and the aging.

I've not had Bulleit Rye. I'll keep that one in mind. I like Bulleit plenty so hearing that the rye is good comes as no surprise. Rye has had an amazing resurgence. I used to drink Jim Beam Rye with grapefruit juice (an unexpected but great combination).

A warning... Never, never buy Costco's Kirkland Bourbon. Horrible. Alcohol burn and bitter wood. Yuck.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: AvenueQ on September 14, 2017, 06:03:21 PM
We're Stranahan's people in our house, though that's because we're lucky and they're local. They just got bought out this year by a bigger distillery, and while it's nice that this means they can expand beyond Colorado, we're a little nervous as to what that will do to the brand long-term. If you happen to find some you should give it a try.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Smurf Hunter on September 14, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
I like Maker's and I actually don't prefer a wheat whiskey. But they did a marvelous job both on the grain bill and the aging.

I've not had Bulleit Rye. I'll keep that one in mind. I like Bulleit plenty so hearing that the rye is good comes as no surprise. Rye has had an amazing resurgence. I used to drink Jim Beam Rye with grapefruit juice (an unexpected but great combination).

A warning... Never, never buy Costco's Kirkland Bourbon. Horrible. Alcohol burn and bitter wood. Yuck.

Another warning.  Avoid the Trade joe's bourbon.
The price is right and it tastes really good to the untrained palette, but something about it makes me sick as hell the next day.
(http://drinks.seriouseats.com/images/2013/02/20130215traderjoesbourbon.jpg)

I realize this is not scientific, but I have attempted this a few times with similar results. 
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: atherts on September 15, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
I tend to like Irish and Scottish product and not much bourbon. I find a lot of it too flowery and sweet.

For Irish I like Powers over Jameson. It has more depth and a nice peppery bite. Powers 12 is very nice.
I find Bushmills a bit tasteless. Teelings is a new one that I like as well. Redbreast is always good too.

For Scotch I tend towards the more peaty offerings with Laphroaig being a favorite. I always have 10 year around and the Cask Strength is nice as well.

I do like the Bulleit Rye and Buffalo Trace, but other bourbons meh.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 15, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
I have no idea why but no Irish whiskey has ever tasted good to me. Not to put it down, they are fine products but I just don't like them.

I was nervous someone would bring up Laphroig. I can't drink the stuff. It smells exactly like my grandfather's medicine cabinet. Repulses me. And I tend to like all the other Islay single malts.

I understand not liking the sweetness of bourbon. It repulses a lot of Europeans in particular.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: LVWood on September 15, 2017, 10:45:45 AM
On drinking Jagermeister - Tastes like a shag carpet.
And Guinness tastes like liquid nicotine.

My favorite sipping spirit is Grand Marnier.
Need to be careful though, the vapors burn my eyes when I try to drink it.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: fritz_monroe on September 15, 2017, 12:43:44 PM
On drinking Jagermeister - Tastes like a shag carpet.
And Guinness tastes like liquid nicotine.

My favorite sipping spirit is Grand Marnier.
Need to be careful though, the vapors burn my eyes when I try to drink it.
Jagermeister is FAR worse than shag carpet. 
Love Guinness
I've never thought to sip Grand Marnier.  I've only had it mixed into things and as a shot.  A pizza place near work has the walls lined with Grand Marnier bottles.  They are often giving out shots.  Tasty stuff.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 15, 2017, 03:08:32 PM
I LOVE Jagermeister. It's not all that surprising because I tend to like most of the northern European spiced liquers. We have a hot tub and after cross country skiing some kind of aquavit while soaking just hits the spot.

The marketing story of Jagermeister is particularly a good story. They sold a drink that old men sip to warm after hunting in Europe as the top American college frat shot. Simply amazing.

I don't think I've ever tasted Grand Marnier. We put in other cocktails but it never occurred to me to drink it straight.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: LVWood on September 15, 2017, 03:45:58 PM
My wife and I would go to one of the last jazz venues in town before it was closed. We would have a nice dinner, dance and sip Grand Marnier.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: AvenueQ on September 15, 2017, 05:35:23 PM
I LOVE Jagermeister.

BLECH  :zombie: (no gag emoji, so green zombie it is).

I'm not sure we can be friends anymore ;D

Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 15, 2017, 05:55:22 PM
BLECH  :zombie: (no gag emoji, so green zombie it is).

I'm not sure we can be friends anymore ;D

Es tut mir leid. (It hurts me so [but in a slangy I don't care] auf Deutsch.) If want the real German schnapps get a good Kirschwasser (cherry water). Delicious when added to fruit salads. And at 100 proof you won't remember the fruit salad.

But yes, I like the European liquers. Great in the winter. It remind me of the opening to one of my favorite comedies, You Kill Me. Just appreciate the alcoholism. As a Polish in cold weather it's um kinda like Grandpa..

https://www.traileraddict.com/you-kill-me/opening-8-minutes
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Smurf Hunter on September 18, 2017, 09:10:11 AM
I LOVE Jagermeister. It's not all that surprising because I tend to like most of the northern European spiced liquers. We have a hot tub and after cross country skiing some kind of aquavit while soaking just hits the spot.

The marketing story of Jagermeister is particularly a good story. They sold a drink that old men sip to warm after hunting in Europe as the top American college frat shot. Simply amazing.

I don't think I've ever tasted Grand Marnier. We put in other cocktails but it never occurred to me to drink it straight.

When I used to ski/snowboard we'd get jager in the lodge.  Aside from college parties and alpine lodges, can't recall drinking it since.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: ID_Joker on September 18, 2017, 03:16:05 PM
Glenlivet 12.  It isn't the best I've had, but it's pretty good and reasonable price.  More importantly, it's what grandpa drank.  So in every glass I put a little extra nip in the old man's memory.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 25, 2017, 01:41:44 PM
OK, I gotta give some props. Bulleit Rye is awesome. Cherry pie and tobacco on the nose, Cinnamon and spice on the palate, and a medium almost peach citrus finish. Definitely my new favorite rye.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: katroo on September 25, 2017, 09:33:28 PM
My go-to whisky is Macallan 12yr.  Perfect on the back deck after a day of working the property, with a nice cigar.

I've also been on a rye kick recently, though.  Gotta agree with the previous posters that Bulleit Rye is pretty enjoyable.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Perfesser on October 03, 2017, 07:22:38 PM
After a few years of being unsatisfied with what had become of the usual whiskeys I happened to have a chat with an insider of the industry. Blending had become more common and the pure rye I have always loved has become .... contaminated.
Sorry folks but just about any pure rye whiskey will put the others to shame - look for it.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on October 03, 2017, 08:06:49 PM
After a few years of being unsatisfied with what had become of the usual whiskeys I happened to have a chat with an insider of the industry. Blending had become more common and the pure rye I have always loved has become .... contaminated.
Sorry folks but just about any pure rye whiskey will put the others to shame - look for it.

Whoa! a hardliner. I love it. So the Bulleit this thread got me on is 95% rye. And I'm digging it. If you've got a 100% rye recommendation... I'll take it to Total Wine. I get that "rye whiskey" need only be 51% rye but coming from the bourbon world blending seems forgivable??? I'm interested.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: osubuckeye4 on October 04, 2017, 08:39:48 AM
It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm a fan of Monkey Shoulder.

It doesn't break the bank, it's smooth, and it's easy to sip on.


If I'm looking to break the bank I'll grab some Blue Label.. but those trips to the liquor store are pretty few and far between.



One of my buddies was asking me about scotch the other weekend and it was funny. Conversation went like this:

Him: "So, what's the best type of scotch that you'd recommend?"
Me: "That's tough to say, what do you look for in a scotch?"
Him: "I don't know, I usually just mix it with Pepsi"
Me: "Ok then, buy the largest and cheapest bottle possible..."
Him: "What about the taste? I want something that tastes good."
Me: "If you don't like the taste, just add more Pepsi."
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: fritz_monroe on October 04, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
I'm not a rye drinker.  But there's a newer local rye producer here in Maryland. 

Sagamore Spirits is supposed to be really good.  That's the guy from Under Armor.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on December 06, 2017, 08:52:31 PM
Larceny Bourbon...

It's a Heaven Hill (my favorite Bourbon distillery) and it's worth the price  :-\. (Others are better than their price from Heaven Hill.)

It's good. Missing some oil (my preference) but if you like a rich, sweet bourbon that makes you think of ? toasted nuts and honestly grapenuts with maybe a little tropical fruit it's a solid choice. Wheat is obvious.

I can't help but think this is conforming to the market. Cheap grain bill and sweet. And these guys make Elijah Craig 12 year... One of my top ten whiskies. And Evan Williams Single Barrel which is a great value if you like charred toast.

What can I say. Worth the price.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on January 23, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
Another odd recommendation... Kirkland 10 Year Tawny Porto.

I'm a Porto snob. I used to collect vintages when I was in my 20s (before having a kid). This will in no way compare to a vintage Kopke Colheita. But it's a damn fine Tawny for $16. It's basic. Garnet color and all the flavors are right. No great depth and the alcohol is too hot but it's solid. A good competitor to my favorite budget Porto Noval's LBV. I prefer the structure of a bottle aged but this Tawny will not disappoint. And you won't feel guilty for drinking it!

You could do a lot worse on Valentine's than have a solid Porto and great chocolates (I'd prefer Gorgonzola or Shropshire but who's counting). I think most couples would benefit from a night of Porto and exotic chocolates.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: outoforder2day on January 24, 2018, 10:09:06 AM
Honestly have a hard time finding exceptional ports here in PA. My usual is either Bin 27 or Taylor Fladgate. My wife went to Porto and brought back a bottle of something phenominal, though. I'll see if I can get the name.
Now I want port...

Found a bottle of Clyde May's straight bourbon whiskey. Very tasty on it's own, but mixes surprisingly well.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Mr. Bill on January 24, 2018, 06:18:14 PM
...Kopke Colheita...

My wife and I did actually try that during our year of being Port enthusiasts.  One of our favorites, according to my old notes.

I tend to prefer Ruby Port -- it reminds me of the Manischewitz and Mogen David we used to have when I was a kid. 8)
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on July 23, 2018, 07:11:47 PM
Tried another one for the rye drinkers recently. Anchor's Old Potrero. I'm not quite sure if the juice is worth the squeeze compared to Bulleit. I wanted to bring something interesting to share and it was a hit. If you're keen on trying an explosive youthful rye it might be worth the price tag. It's so intense in flavor without being harsh it becomes very difficult to drink and a couple ounces will last an hour as one sips and ponders all the flavors. It's the Islay of the rye world. Not for the faint of heart.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Alan Georges on July 23, 2018, 07:34:23 PM
https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/whiskey-review-old-potrero-single-malt-straight-rye-whiskey/ (https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/whiskey-review-old-potrero-single-malt-straight-rye-whiskey/)

Looks interesting.  Will be on the lookout, thanks.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on July 28, 2018, 08:45:52 AM
ALright, it's time to go deep. I've been allowing myself one drink per day and it's been in the form of single malt Scotch after the family goes to bed. I've shared before that I am in love with the Scotches of Islay (pronounced eye-luh) and have that hasn't changed. Early on I fell in love with Bruichladdich and for years the Bowmore 15 has been my favorite. Ardbeg was a close second in all its versions.

Then I bit the bullet and payed $70 for the big daddy. Lagavulin 16. You can even drink it with Nick Offerman on his "Yule Log" on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS-ErOKpO4E&has_verified=1

This is NOT a beginner's dram. Holy cow there are some flavors between the smoke and peat but it's a challenging whisky and not for the faint of heart. It's a full frontal of Islay. While Ardbeg twists and turns and 10 minutes after your first sip you'll be confused at what you just tasted and Bruichladdich will have you picking your teeth for seaweed  Lagavulin is just a punch in the face that disappears with a cooling (mint?) finish that begs you to drink more. And it noses with that seductive sherry cask I love in Scotch. In one sip it's like burning a sherry cask on a peat campfire and having a bucket of cold lake water thrown in your face. Amazing stuff.

If you have "whiskey" friends any of the above will garner respect (unless they are idiots who think the highlight of Scotch is Macallan 12 or Glenfiddich) and as always friends don't let friends drink Canadian whiskey (it sucks).
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: atherts on July 31, 2018, 12:25:04 PM
A word of advice based on recent experience. If you have the opportunity to share a 1.75l bottle of Bullit Rye on a blazing hot day, standing over the grill for 3 hours with access to unlimited ice...

1. Make sure you are sharing
2. Drink a lot of water
3. Use a small glass

That was Saturday, I'm starting to feel better now. It sure went down smoothly from what I can remember.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on July 31, 2018, 01:05:51 PM
I only use the Glencairn Whisky Glass:

https://www.glencairnwhiskyglass.com/

You can find it on Amazon. There is, in my experience, no better way of sampling a dram of good whisk(e)y. It is optimized for color, nose, and taste. And it's really, really little.  ;) Oh, sure I've got a set of massive rocks tumblers for campfires but this little flute really is the way to go.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: Alan Georges on July 31, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
A word of advice based on recent experience. If you have the opportunity to share a 1.75l bottle of Bullit Rye ...
It comes in 1.75's?!?!
This is a good world.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 02, 2018, 09:06:06 AM
I got another oddball for the bourbon fans. I had my first sip last night and it took 2 hours to drink 1.5 ounces. Something you really want to go slow with and contemplate.

Angel's Envy

https://www.angelsenvy.com/

It's a bourbon that is finished in port barrels. It goes through waves of flavors, nosing like fruits and having a chocolate raisin toffee cake thing about it but I swear the finish has just a hint of port on the back. It's not a beginner whiskey but any fan of bourbon might like this subtle change in character. I think I paid $45 so it's not a massive risk, either. I'm told it was better years ago when it was independent (now owned by Constellation I think) but it's still solid.

Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 03, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
In continuing my journey of great drams tonight I am partaking in Highland Park 12 year Viking Honour. For those who don't know the Orkney Islands on the north shores of Scotland were settled (conquered) by Vikings. To this day Nordic names are common and the heritage is alive.

Leave it to a Viking region to produce a single malt known for bright flowers and heather honey. Just get over that mild peat hurdle and it's sweet sailing from there. Sniff, sip, and finish are all fresh and sweet. It's like the best of Viking flavor. Perhaps the land knows its history?

Highland Park is one of my favorite distilleries and while not a great scorer it has its own unique flavor and is a fantastic beginner single malt. Far from the boring Highland and Speyside styles (sorry if you love them) it has character. Some smoke and peat but ultimately sweet and indulgent. If you waant to try a single malt and don't want a Glenfiddich, Macallan, Balvenie, or Glenmorangie (all of which have interesting bottlings for much more money) try a Highland Park. It's Scotch made by Vikings.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: cannonball on September 05, 2018, 09:39:16 AM
I have been really impressed with everything that High West has put out. Bourbon our of Utah, who'd a thunk...

For Scotch I like Johnny Walker Double Black
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 06, 2018, 01:07:37 PM
I have been really impressed with everything that High West has put out. Bourbon our of Utah, who'd a thunk...

For Scotch I like Johnny Walker Double Black

Don't have High West around here but I do keep a bottle of either Black or Double Black at all times. In truth I'm hard pressed to choose a favorite because both are great. I will say that Double Black is the gateway to Islay.

Serendipity struck at Costco. Found a bottle of Nikka Coffey Grain Whisky. I actually like Japanese whisky so this is a good find. Haven't tasted yet but I cracked the bottle for a smell. Smells like rum.... Dad used to get Suntory Yamazaki 18 for special days and I grew a fondness for Japanese made whisky. If you ever feel stifled that Scotch is 100% barley and Bourbon is 100% new oak cask try Japanese spirits. They do whatever grain bill they want and age as they want. No rules, just great whisky.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on September 18, 2018, 08:51:13 AM
Nikka Coffey is definitely an oddball. I waited to try it a couple times and to be frank it's a little too far on the rum spectrum for me. Not that it's bad or undrinkable. I actually really enjjoyed the softness of the grain and found just a hint of oak bitterness. It's awesome for a beginner and if you're looking for an easy dram of something out of left field try it. A fellow whiskey snob calls it "bourbon aged like Scotch". Apt. If you like "sweet" look no further.

Had another interesting beginner Scotch this weekend courtesy of family. Monkey Shoulder is a blended Scotch that noses of butter and caramel and ttastes of heather honey. If you like Highland Scotch (and I generally do not) at $30 a bottle it's very solid and a good introductory whisky. It's very light and clean if you like that sort of thing. For the price point in a blend I think I'd still take a Johnnie Walker Black (or Double Black) but I could see a fan of lighter Scotches really enjoying it. Upon first sip I proclaimed Balvenie. I was, upon searching, part correct. Balvenie, Glenfiddich, and Kininvie are the source for the blend. If that sounds palatable to you, I do not think you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: cannonball on September 19, 2018, 08:34:49 AM
I haven't had a scotch in about a year (have been drinking bourbon). I had this post in my head as I went to pour a drink last night and decided to grab the double black. On the first sip the sweet, smoky, tobacco flavors were almost too much. Not bad, just different from the ryes and bourbons I had become used to.
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Post by: Chemsoldier on September 19, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
I am drinking a Brandy Old Fashioned at the moment. Is that big in MN? It is in WI.
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Post by: David in MN on September 20, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
I am drinking a Brandy Old Fashioned at the moment. Is that big in MN? It is in WI.

Nope. That is straight up Sconnie. I haven't had one of those in probably 15 years. I remember my parents preparing for cocktail parties by peeling a dozen oranges (because us classy folk like an orange peel in the glass). A brandy old fashioned sweet is like THE drink of the corner bar in Wisconsin.

Oh I wish I could convey how much I'm laughing. It reminds me of my great aunt in Chicago who always did a punch of vodka, ginger ale, and sherbet. And always grasshoppers after dinner. I remember listening to my uncles talk about sneaking the punch while me and my cousins were sneaking the punch!

I more took to my grandparents who were on both sides bourbon drinkers. But man, does a brandy old fashioned take me back to my early days. I mean that's like my dad and his veteran buddies playing cards. They used to make me a Shirley Temple in the highball glass and I thought I was cool. That's a reaal throwback.

I appreciate the memory hole. That brings me back. I really need to hit up church and light a few candles. I miss those days and those people.
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Post by: David in MN on November 02, 2018, 05:50:58 AM
OK so I broke sober October with one I've been waanting to try... Highland Park Dark Origins. It's well, not my favorite. Not bad by any stretch but it screams sherry with massive cocoa and coffee. They aren't lying; it's dark. If that's your thing you might like it provided the $70 bottle is in your range. For the pricetag I could have bought nearly 2 bottles of the beloved Ardbeg.

That said, it is a weird dram. If I was to make a list of the top 10 most bizarre Scotches I've had it would  be near the top.
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Post by: kid_couteau on November 02, 2018, 08:40:12 AM
40 Creek Canadian whiskey here.
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Post by: surfivor on November 02, 2018, 01:15:54 PM
 I am 2x removed from whisky ..

 I don't drink generally BUT .. I like songs about whisky EXCEPT .. I don't like the words but mainly the guitar but I realize a band needs a singer .. Take whisky rockn roller by skynyrd for instance ..

 That being said, Ronnie Van Zant, the singer for Skynryd was my favorite singer, it's just that I like the more the words of other songs he wrote or his general personality.

 Life is full of contradictions but I guess people drink to be happy. I want the same thing but different approach
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: fritz_monroe on November 02, 2018, 05:02:33 PM
I'm not a huge scotch fan.  But a friend really recommended Grangestone Bourbon Cask Finish Single Malt Scotch.  I think it's a Total Wine product, but not sure.  I also wasn't a big bourbon fan.  I grabbed a bottle and didn't really like it.

Fast forward a year and I've grown to like bourbon.  I tried that scotch again.  Still not a fan.  hehe
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Post by: Smurf Hunter on November 03, 2018, 12:27:07 AM
I impulse bought this at the super market.  Was nearly 50% off and I noticed only 2 bottles left on the shelf.

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It has a scotch like taste, but goes down like a bourbon.  I generally like bourbon, and I'd I had to sip something neat, that's what I'd chooae.

This is a strange crossover, but I'm glad I picked it up.

https://www.shopwinedirect.com/crater-lake-reserve-rye-whiskey-750ml.html?vfsku=bour414&vfsku=bour414&gpla=pla&gclid=CjwKCAjw6-_eBRBXEiwA-5zHaWqhnwWCnPB8BOXcgEjNgfhQIbd_0DFT4hGpSexoiKqWHrmPj2P6uhoCdv0QAvD_BwE
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Post by: David in MN on December 28, 2018, 04:44:41 PM
I went on a lark at Costco and bought the co-branded Lagavulin Game of Thrones 9 year House Lannister. It's not worth the $50 price tag. It's solid and I get the Lagavulin smoke and there is peat and seaweed and it has that weird mint/menthol finish but it's just not as complex as a Lagavulin 16 which would only be $20 more. It's not bad but it just can't hold a candle to its bigger brother. And if you like this type of whisky you can find Ardbeg 10 (which is better in my opinion) a few bucks cheaper.

If you're an Islay fanboy like me it might be worth the price to try. A little sweet for my taste but not bad other than I can compare it to better variants. But if you're the guy who says Lagavulin 16 would be perfect if it was a little milder, sweeter, and had more tobacco flavors this is for you.

And it's a limited run so if you have the inkling get it now.
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Post by: Carver on December 29, 2018, 09:28:54 AM
I am drinking a Brandy Old Fashioned at the moment. Is that big in MN? It is in WI.
When we went out east I asked for Brandy at the liquor store and the clerk asked if I was from Wisconsin. He said the only time they sell it is when someone from Wisconsin visits.
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Post by: LvsChant on January 01, 2019, 01:52:37 PM
I am drinking a Brandy Old Fashioned at the moment. Is that big in MN? It is in WI.

Just looked up the recipe and see that it calls for bitters. Do you make your own or buy?
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Post by: David in MN on February 22, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Compass Box Peat Monster.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't think Ardbeg was the backbone here. There's no mistaking the Ardbeg flavor and it is my favorite whisky. But the blenders at Compass Box (they don't distill but only blend to make their taste in whisky) have made something amazing.

It has the phenolic smoke I love of Ardbeg and the minty liftoff of Lagavulin but there is a foil. Unlike single malts from Islay it really has a fruit forward middle where I get citrus and there is this beautiful malt nougat flavor that carries through.

I wish I could explain the love of Islay whisky. Not for beginners. It's a gritty dram for those of use who like kippers over a smoldering fire. But the few of us who find a Chardonnay middle to Ardbeg will get this. I still question.. is it apricot or grapefruit?

At the end of the day if you like peaty smoky Scotch give Compass Box Peat Monster a try. Will I give up Ardbeg 10 for it? No. Lagavalun 16? No. But it does show what a blended whisky can do to highlight different points of the source Scotch. And at a reasonable price.
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Post by: machinisttx on February 23, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
I usually stick to Knob Creek and prefer the single barrel reserve when I can find it. Never tried the Evan Williams single barrel, but their regular stuff was hit or miss...sometimes good and other times not. Tried some scotch once. Must be an acquired taste.
Title: Re: Talking Whisk(e)y
Post by: David in MN on February 23, 2019, 04:50:15 PM
I usually stick to Knob Creek and prefer the single barrel reserve when I can find it. Never tried the Evan Williams single barrel, but their regular stuff was hit or miss...sometimes good and other times not. Tried some scotch once. Must be an acquired taste.

Knob Creek is great. I once drank it with a Knob family member... Evan Williams Single Barrel... You could do better for the money. And if I'm offending a big fan I'm wrong and you're right. It's a taste thing. I'd just always rather have an Elijah Craig 12 but as always we might just have different tastes. As I joke with fellow whiskey drinkers, there are plenty I wouldn't turn down I just don't prefer. And preference is subjective.

On to preference... My God was I wrong about Compass Box Peat Monster. No Ardbeg at all. Turns out it's backbone is Laphroig. Now here's a little secret... I love Ardbeg and detest Laphroig. Again, just a personal taste thing. But I got none of the medicinal iodine flavor I think of in Laphroig. But maybe in blending and aging they mutated that flavor. Or maybe I had an off tasting day.

That's the fun. You never know what can surprise you.
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Post by: David in MN on July 01, 2019, 07:15:32 PM
Malfy Gin Rosa. I stumbled into this from a friend. It's pink grapefruit Italian gin. Super weird. Super good. It's one of those I could easily overdo because it's so light and grapefruity you almost miss the booze. We had fun with lemons and fresh herbs making cocktails.

https://www.malfygin.com/

Really a fun and not too expensive gin.
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Post by: LvsChant on August 14, 2019, 09:03:21 PM
Malfy Gin Rosa. I stumbled into this from a friend. It's pink grapefruit Italian gin. Super weird. Super good. It's one of those I could easily overdo because it's so light and grapefruity you almost miss the booze. We had fun with lemons and fresh herbs making cocktails.

https://www.malfygin.com/

Really a fun and not too expensive gin.

Sounds delicious.