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Title: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 16, 2019, 08:11:50 AM
The predicted floods are here from the previous winter storms. Large swaths of the midWest are being affected. 12 million people impacted and we are just at start.  Be cautious.  Do not attempt to drive or walk through standing waters.  There are very fast currents. And those of you in South, get your sand bags and bug out bags ready.  The midWestern cities have no choice but to let these waters flow unabated.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/flooding-triggers-emergency-disaster-declarations-throughout-midwest-n983951 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/flooding-triggers-emergency-disaster-declarations-throughout-midwest-n983951)
Flooding triggers emergency, disaster declarations throughout the Midwest
"Nebraska has experienced historic flooding and extreme weather in nearly every region of the state,”


Nebraska is grappling with the worst flooding the state has seen in half a century, according to the state's governor, as severe weather and heavy rain slammed the Midwest on Friday.

On Friday, Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts called the flooding "historic," adding that he would be surveying the extent of the damage.

"Nebraska has experienced historic flooding and extreme weather in nearly every region of the state,” Ricketts tweeted.

The Nebraska Emergency Management Agency tweeted that emergencies had been declared in 53 counties, 41 cities and one tribal area as of Friday night.

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 16, 2019, 08:22:21 AM
 Missouri River looking bad.  Dams already failing, shutting down nuclear plant.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-03-16-deadly-flooding-midwest-impacts (https://weather.com/news/news/2019-03-16-deadly-flooding-midwest-impacts)
Deadly, Historic Flooding Swamps Plains, Midwest; Nebraska City a Virtual Island, Nuke Plant Prepares to Shut Down


Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 16, 2019, 09:04:45 AM
Thanks for the update
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Redman on March 16, 2019, 09:20:21 AM
A guy on another forum was asking me why I was canning meat etc. I pointed out natural disasters as one reason and posted the link in this thread. He got it.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 16, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
This is not like other floods.  The amount of water moving is very high vs. recent history.  Even heavy machinery is no match.  Be extra cautious.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/16/us/nebraska-flooding-saturday-wxc/index.html (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/16/us/nebraska-flooding-saturday-wxc/index.html)
Nebraska farmer is killed trying to rescue someone in state's worst flooding in 50 years

Farmer's tractor went down in flood waters
Nebraska rescue teams have been pulling trapped residents out of flood waters since Thursday.

James Wilke, a Columbus farmer, got a call to assist a stranger, and never came home. According to CNN affiliate KMTV, a close family friend posted on social media about his last moments.

"It is no surprise to anyone that knew James that when he got the phone call to assist emergency responders ... his answers would be yes," Jodi L. Hefti wrote on Facebook.

"With the guidance of emergency responders, James drove his tractor over the Shell Creek bridge on the Monestary Road and the bridge gave out. James and the tractor went down into the flood water below."
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 16, 2019, 09:53:09 AM
So just got off phone with a geophysics friend of mine.  He says it is all hands on deck for the hydrologists.  They think that the amount of water headed to the Mississippi could potentially change its course in some places. Dont hear that very often!
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 16, 2019, 10:30:36 AM
Wow. Yes.
I'd imagine I-57 and I-55 (MO.) will be having issues again this year. Bootheel area.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 16, 2019, 11:34:05 AM
The purple dots are the major flooding.  All of that is headed South.

(http://www.libertyassociate.com/survival_podcast/20019riverflood.png)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 16, 2019, 11:48:21 AM
Headed right into LA and MS......
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Alan Georges on March 16, 2019, 01:54:55 PM
Headed right into LA and MS......
No problem here on the coast, but upstream they're going to have a wild ride.

I remember back in 2011, the CoE had the Mississippi so fine-tuned with various spillways that the river levies in New Orleans were within a foot of topping and that was considered ample margin for error.  It was spooky to see in person though.  I wonder how this year will compare.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 16, 2019, 11:33:43 PM
Some good footage on ABC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXZSQiCigbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXZSQiCigbQ)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 17, 2019, 12:12:41 AM
That moment when you realize bugging out may have been a better choice than bugging in...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D10JSBdX4AIhAvE?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 17, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
Already spillways being opened to protect New Orleans and barge traffic being stopped on the Red.River.

https://www.ktbs.com/news/arklatex-indepth/rising-mississippi-river-impacts-local-barge-traffic/article_140fa146-4740-11e9-80f6-77649ad15e14.html (https://www.ktbs.com/news/arklatex-indepth/rising-mississippi-river-impacts-local-barge-traffic/article_140fa146-4740-11e9-80f6-77649ad15e14.html)
Rising Mississippi River impacts local barge traffic

It's been a commercial mainstay for centuries. The use of waterways to move products for public use.

But now an annual conversation of high water has made an impact locally to the Port of Caddo-Bossier and it's early in the season for this to occur.

That's because the mighty Mississippi River is on the rise. Flood warnings have been issued for Jefferson, Orleans, Plaquemines and St. Bernard parishes through March 23. The Bonnet Carre spillway has been opened to protect the city of New Orleans from flooding. All of that will have an impact on barge traffic leaving the Red River.

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 17, 2019, 07:52:24 AM
The fast currents are giving even professionals problems.  Sad, a fuel spill on the river.

https://www.workboat.com/news/coastal-inland-waterways/high-water-fast-current-create-problems-on-the-mississippi-and-missouri/ (https://www.workboat.com/news/coastal-inland-waterways/high-water-fast-current-create-problems-on-the-mississippi-and-missouri/)

(https://1hl5il2skd6e5rmr12vgtnt1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Michelle-Ann-sinking-large-606x336.jpg)
The Michelle Ann sinking after striking the anchor chain of a bulk carrier near Baton Rouge, La., on March 14, 2019. YouTube image by seagoat1970

High water, fast current create problems on the Mississippi and Missouri

The U.S. Coast Guard reopened the waterway closure on the Mississippi River from mile marker 224.5 to mile marker 226 after a vessel sank near Baton Rouge, La., Thursday. General Anchorage remains closed.

A Coast Guard Marine Safety Unit Baton Rouge incident management team confirmed an oil sheen in the water. There is a reported potential of 18,500 gals. of fuel aboard the 65’x24′ towboat Michelle Anne. An unknown amount of oil has discharged into the river.

Due to concerns over responder safety from dangerous river conditions the Coast Guard and OMI Environmental are managing the spill from shore.[
...
The four crewmembers escaped to the barge and were recovered by a nearby tug. There were no reported injuries. The barge was recovered as well. Bystander videos posted on social media and by television station WBRZ showed the Michelle Ann pinned against the anchor chain of the 738’x106′ bulk carrier Iolcos Unity, listing to port with one of its twin propellers out of the water and still turning. The cause of the incident is under investigation.

Farther north on the Missouri River, the Coast Guard issued a waterway closure to all vessel traffic on the Missouri River from mile marker 450 near St. Joseph, Mo., to mile marker 550 approximately 50 miles south of Omaha, Neb., due to high water levels and dangerous currents, Friday.
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Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 17, 2019, 08:04:39 AM
This is insane video showing how high river is.

https://m.vicksburgpost.com/2019/03/16/video-barge-barely-makes-it-under-mississippi-bridge/ (https://m.vicksburgpost.com/2019/03/16/video-barge-barely-makes-it-under-mississippi-bridge/)
VIDEO: Boat towing barge barely clears Vicksburg Bridge

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Carver on March 17, 2019, 08:18:24 AM
Trempealeau county Wisconsin. Flowage into the Mississippi river. https://youtu.be/aFOkKfccW0E (https://youtu.be/aFOkKfccW0E)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 17, 2019, 11:38:10 AM
Trempealeau county Wisconsin. Flowage into the Mississippi river. https://youtu.be/aFOkKfccW0E (https://youtu.be/aFOkKfccW0E)

Ugh!  Near ice cold too. Doesnt get much more dangerous than that. 10 to 15 minutes in that and you would be hard pressed to survive.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 18, 2019, 10:10:00 AM
These large scale floods are the most predictable of natural diasasters (thank you, hydrologists).  If you are in the path of this water please take precautions and warn your neighbors.  It has already caused multiple deaths.  This is a serious event.

(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/03/640/320/midwest-flooding.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
https://www.foxnews.com/us/midwest-gearing-up-for-more-of-the-unprecedented-flooding-that-has-shattered-missouri-river-record-high-levels.amp (https://www.foxnews.com/us/midwest-gearing-up-for-more-of-the-unprecedented-flooding-that-has-shattered-missouri-river-record-high-levels.amp)
Midwest bracing for more 'unprecedented' flooding that has shattered record-high river levels

Residents in Kansas and Missouri were steeling themselves Monday for the deadly and “unprecedented” flooding that's already saturated large portions of the Midwest, mangling hundreds of homes and raising the Missouri River above record water levels in many areas.

In Atchison, Kansas, a city with a population of more than 10,000, businesses are reported to be piling up sandbags as the National Weather Service is forecasting river levels to reach 30 feet there later this week – something likely to prompt major flooding.

“It’s not looking good at all,” Sara Tull, a local resident, told KCTV. “I think it’s [going to] get us this time and I hate to say that.”
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 19, 2019, 07:02:37 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/historic-flooding-devastates-already-struggling-midwest-farmers/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/historic-flooding-devastates-already-struggling-midwest-farmers/)
Devastating flooding hits already struggling Midwest farmers

Vice President Mike Pence will visit Nebraska Tuesday to survey the damage caused by historic flooding responsible for killing at least three people. The Midwest is bracing for more flooding as rivers in 40 locations have risen to historic levels.

Flood watches and warnings are in effect in more than a dozen states and more rain is on the way. More than 70 cities in Nebraska have issued emergency declarations over what is the worst flooding the state has seen in at least 50 years.

The total damage is already in the hundreds of millions of dollars and is expected to climb as the flood threat remains. The views from the sky over the flooded Midwest reveal miles and miles of devastation. CBS News' DeMarco Morgan took a plane to Fremont, a town of 26,000 that is nearly isolated by the water. Volunteers with planes are helping fly in supplies.

"Fremont's landlocked and you know, they're running out of food … So I was just more than happy to help," one volunteer said.

While on the ground, a convoy led by the Nebraska National Guard delivered aid along restricted routes.

"I think it's good to see the community come together … bringing supplies in from Omaha and other towns," one mother said. "Everyone's helping out."

Since Sunday, more than 4,400 people have been evacuated from their homes in at least four states and rising rivers have breached nearly 200 miles of levees.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 19, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
Received an action alert last night that CAC may be deploying to help the flood victims. 

"Citizens Assisting Citizens
Be Ready to Help


ACTIVATION ALERT - This is to inform you that within the next few days, it is possible that we will be deploying some financial and human resources in response to the flooding in Iowa and Nebraska..."
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 19, 2019, 10:11:20 AM
Thanks for the updates. We just realized we have extended family in Lincoln.
We'll be ck'n on them.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 19, 2019, 02:06:33 PM
NASA provides some perspective:

(https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com/43/7a/5c5526634eaabb25c4f4f9c7893a/nebraska-flooding-before-and-after.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 20, 2019, 07:58:51 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nebraska-governor-flooding-floods-midwestern-united-states-most-widespread-destruction/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nebraska-governor-flooding-floods-midwestern-united-states-most-widespread-destruction/)

Nebraska governor calls flooding "most widespread destruction we've ever seen in our state's history"

Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts says farmers are bearing the brunt of "the most widespread destruction we have ever seen in our state's history." Ricketts spoke to CBSN on Wednesday about the dire set of circumstances Nebraska faces after the unprecedented flooding disaster.

Rickets declared a state of emergency as more rain is expected to soak the already flooded region. States of emergency have also been declared in Iowa, Wisconsin and South Dakota.
...
The floods have been nothing short of catastrophic: At least three people have died, and estimated farm loses could top $1 billion. Parts of 15 states are under flood watches and warnings. Ricketts said14 state bridges were damaged and 200 miles of highways can't be used until roads are repaired.

"We're still very focused on keeping people safe right now and as late as yesterday we were still conducting rescues of people," he added.


(https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/03/20/1b69a829-6475-47a3-ad36-076b80d49b3c/thumbnail/1280x720/8683450a6904b55566cd792c2e558084/nebraska-flodding.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 20, 2019, 10:52:00 PM
I've seen a lot of midwest flooding but I have never seen towns flooded up to near the rooflines before.  So many bridges washed away too.

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/21/USAT/0806be9b-9416-483d-ada7-1ee4c1226039-XXX_0320_flooding_13.jpg?width=1280)
A motel sits inundated with flood water at the intersection of Highway 34 and Interstate 29 on March 20, 2019, in Mills County, Iowa.
BRIAN POWERS AND CHELSEA LEWIS, THE DES MOINES REGISTER VIA USA TODAY NETWORK

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 21, 2019, 08:13:50 AM
If 34 is underwater, HWY 2 is most likely flooded there at the MO/IA line also.
Missouri river is right there west of 2 and 29, where you croos the bridge into NE.
That area all flooded out in the last flood up that way that ruined a lot of I-29
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 21, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
NOAA, 3/21/19: Spring Outlook: Historic, widespread flooding to continue through May (https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/spring-outlook-historic-widespread-flooding-to-continue-through-may)

Quote
(https://www.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/Final%202019%20Flood%20Risk%20Map%202019.png)

...The areas of greatest risk for moderate to major flooding include the upper, middle, and lower Mississippi River basins including the mainstem Mississippi River, Red River of the North, the Great Lakes, eastern Missouri River, lower Ohio, lower Cumberland, and Tennessee River basins.

Additionally, much of the U.S. east of the Mississippi River and portions of California and Nevada are at risk for minor flooding. ...
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 21, 2019, 01:26:54 PM
NOAA, 3/21/19: Spring Outlook: Historic, widespread flooding to continue through May (https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/spring-outlook-historic-widespread-flooding-to-continue-through-may)

Hmm.. Looks like upper Northeast is a potential danger zone too.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Redman on March 21, 2019, 02:06:46 PM
NOAA, 3/21/19:

Wow, even the Galveston Bay area minor to moderate flooding.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 23, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
Kansas City, MO drinking water compromised.  Shows value of filters in preps.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R40ND (https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R40ND)
Flooding impairs drinking water treatment for Kansas City, Missouri

Record flooding along the Missouri River has impaired treatment of drinking supplies in Kansas City, raising health risks for infants, the elderly and other people with compromised immune systems, the municipal water service warned on Saturday.

The public health advisory came as utility crews struggled to replace broken pumps at a wastewater treatment plant submerged by floodwaters about 30 miles upstream in Leavenworth, Kansas, a town of 35,000 on the river's west bank.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 23, 2019, 06:49:08 PM
Some of our kids are in KC. The MO side. We've bought and supplied them with drinking straws for their GHB's.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: mountainmoma on March 23, 2019, 10:43:12 PM
Some of our kids are in KC. The MO side. We've bought and supplied them with drinking straws for their GHB's.

you mean like a life straw ?  A filter
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 24, 2019, 08:25:13 AM
Yes ma'am.
We haven't convinced em to store water yet. Which, a 24 bottle pack of water on sale can be had for 2 bucks. So I may just buy a couple and make them haul them home.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Alan Georges on March 24, 2019, 10:53:25 AM
you mean like a life straw ?  A filter
This is a very good idea, MM & ST, life straws are great.  Some other good options that I've given to relatives are Sawyer squeeze and mini filters, $30 & $20 respectively at any Wal-Mart.  Also freebie Berkey bottles are the MSB "discount" for orders over $100, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 28, 2019, 07:19:40 AM
Water filtration is a primary prep for sure.  Here's something we normally dont think about.  Wells are vulnerable to contamination. After a flood they should be tested.  So test kits are a good idea if you rely on well water.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/27/health/flooding-threatens-one-million-wells/index.html (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/27/health/flooding-threatens-one-million-wells/index.html)
Midwest flooding threatens the water safety in 1 million wells

Record flooding in the Midwest is now threatening the safety of more than a million private water wells. The National Ground Water Association estimates that people living in more than 300 counties across 10 states have their groundwater threatened from bacterial and industrial contamination carried by flood waters.

The 10 states include: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, South Dakota and Wisconsin.

"The most immediate concern is that the flood waters are contaminated with anything they have picked up and moving across the ground," said Chuck Job, NGWA's regulatory affairs manager.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 28, 2019, 01:59:36 PM
CAC just tweeted out this reminder:

(http://images.tritondigitalcms.com/3922/2018/09/14090313/Flashflood.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 28, 2019, 03:23:01 PM
Kansas City, MO drinking water compromised.  Shows value of filters in preps.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R40ND (https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R40ND)
Flooding impairs drinking water treatment for Kansas City, Missouri

Record flooding along the Missouri River has impaired treatment of drinking supplies in Kansas City, raising health risks for infants, the elderly and other people with compromised immune systems, the municipal water service warned on Saturday.

The public health advisory came as utility crews struggled to replace broken pumps at a wastewater treatment plant submerged by floodwaters about 30 miles upstream in Leavenworth, Kansas, a town of 35,000 on the river's west bank.


Spoke with the kid'os this weekend about water. They are well east of that contamination area and do not receive their water from the river, just the city wells.
Anyhow, I think I've convinced them to at least store some bottled water.
$50.00 will get you a ton of packaged, bottled water.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: mountainmoma on March 28, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
This is a very good idea, MM & ST, life straws are great.  Some other good options that I've given to relatives are Sawyer squeeze and mini filters, $30 & $20 respectively at any Wal-Mart.  Also freebie Berkey bottles are the MSB "discount" for orders over $100, if I remember correctly.

I gave everyone a life straw in their "stockings" a few years ago at Christmas ( they are all young adults).  But, they do not take such very seriously, so I hope they remember where they are..... The one for my youngest is likely in the ( car ) "get home" bag.  If the pack is still there.  The first get home pack when that one was a new driver was stolen out of the vehicle the first year, so then I replaced it.  This is a good reminder to check and make sure the get home bag still exists.  I once saw that pack emptied as the outer pack was somehow just the right size to be used for some trip, and just last month this car was wrecked, I am sure it was emptied before being sold off -- but does raise the reasonable question to this student -- where are the "get home" supplies !
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 28, 2019, 05:51:32 PM
Yes, I gotta stay on mine!!!
Seems our grandkids take us more seriously than our kids do.  ::) Our grands have GHB's
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 29, 2019, 06:58:04 AM
Flood impact starting to hit Wall Street numbers.  Difficult to deliver products when your customers are under water.  The impact is far ranging.  May be good idea to stock up on grain before prices go up.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/29/dowdupont-cuts-its-sales-forecast-as-midwest-floods-hit-its-agri-division.html (https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/29/dowdupont-cuts-its-sales-forecast-as-midwest-floods-hit-its-agri-division.html)
DowDupont cuts its sales forecast as Midwest floods hit its agri division

Record floods have devastated a wide swath of the Farm Belt across Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota and several other states, idling ethanol plants, slowing rail shipments of agricultural products and swamping storage bins holding grain from previous harvests.

The company said the floods have limited its ability to deliver products to customers, while delaying pre-season applications.


(https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/03/29/105821540-1553845575174ap_19087744317800.530x298.jpg?v=1553846814)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 29, 2019, 09:58:42 AM
Get your wheat berries bought NOW
$25.00 at an amish store will get you a 50# bag of Non GMO wheat.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: mountainmoma on March 29, 2019, 11:07:23 AM
Get your wheat berries bought NOW
$25.00 at an amish store will get you a 50# bag of Non GMO wheat.

I was thinking EXACTLY this.   I have plenty of people grade wheat berries, but I feed my chickens soaked grains.  I am ordering much chicken wheat on this months order, wondering if I have room for a years supply of chicken food, while also getting some extra goat grains....

Whish we had an Amish store around here, but we dont. 

But, most of us CAN get to a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints home storage center to buy, current price is   $10 for a 25b bag  --  price list is here  https://providentliving.lds.org/bc/providentliving/content/english/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-order-form/pdf/HomeStorageCenterOrderForm-US-short.pdf?lang=eng

locations and hours listed here https://providentliving.lds.org/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations?lang=eng

For my consumption, I usually buy organic ( but if you cant afford it, get the LDS wheat listed above ! )  Organic wheat berries from Azure standard is running .61/lb , so 20% more than STwood shows for Amish wheat.  I would expect the prices to rise this year, so organic hard red wheat berries from Azure standard $30.53 for a 50lb bag  https://www.azurestandard.com/shop/product/food/grains/wheat/hard-red-wheat-berries/wheat-hard-red-organic/11656?package=GR063
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 29, 2019, 06:54:17 PM
Yes, I would stock up on chicken feed also. I think we will for sure.

2 years? ago kansas has a late 2" snow that set the crop back 20%. Almost over night, Augason's long term red and white wheat, jumped from $17 to $40 for their 28# long term packaged bucket.

Now since Nebraska is mostly corn, those who feed corn should probably stock up on corn also. I would imagine corn will be up soo, as grain bins are sitting in flooded fields.
Kansas, south of Nebraska, has wheat fields under water, which is killing the wheat crop.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on March 29, 2019, 07:38:47 PM
And since Indiana and Illinois is battling moderate flooding, they will be well behind on planting and it will most likely be a late harvest.  Not to mention that we are near to a trade agreement with China which will significantly increase demand. 
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on March 29, 2019, 07:45:48 PM
Yes. It's about time for them to be kicking up some dirt, readying the ground work for planting. Soon as the ground temp comes up to about 55, they will be getting figitty.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: mountainmoma on March 30, 2019, 12:02:04 AM
yep, soy and corn will go up too.   Might be good to add some, 5-10lbs, polenta to the list, that is helpful in the summer heat.  Hard to buy tofu ahead.  If you buy any standard animal feeds, and most of that is corn/soy  --- stock up.

Would be a realy good idea to make sure I give garden space to some flour corn, I like it better anyways and need to grow out the seed.  Store bought meats/dairy will have their feed costs go up, but as most of our consumer price is retailers/farm labor/farm equipment/land etc.... I dont realy think corn/soy will raise our meat dairy prices much,  more like that need will exacerbate the raising of prices for the soy/corn/wheat we buy direct
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on April 01, 2019, 07:14:54 PM
Southern Missouri flooding continues.

https://www.kmov.com/news/more-rain-causes-new-flood-worries-along-the-mississippi/article_1c0c340e-54ba-11e9-afc2-876677d58849.html (https://www.kmov.com/news/more-rain-causes-new-flood-worries-along-the-mississippi/article_1c0c340e-54ba-11e9-afc2-876677d58849.html)

More rain causes new flood worries along the Mississippi

ST. LOUIS (AP and KMOV.com) — A wall of rocks and sandbags on Monday protected scenic Clarksville, Missouri, from the surging Mississippi River as spring flooding swamped fields, threatened homes and temporarily shut down a bridge connecting Missouri and Illinois.

Heavy rain over much of the Midwest on Saturday caused another spike in water levels along the river and its tributaries, especially in Iowa, Missouri and Illinois.

So far, Mississippi River flood damage is far less severe than March flooding along the Missouri River in Nebraska, southwest Iowa and northwest Missouri, where hundreds of homes were damaged. Still, several Mississippi River communities were battling to stay dry.


(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/kmov.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/8f/e8fff7a2-54ba-11e9-bd6e-cbb59aadafaf/5ca271828b548.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C675)
Flooding in Downtown St. Louis in early April, 2019. (KMOV)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on April 01, 2019, 07:19:47 PM
not good. We're very wet here in MID MO
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on April 01, 2019, 07:22:10 PM
(https://www.columbiatribune.com/storyimage/MO/20190401/NEWS/190409889/AR/0/AR-190409889.jpg?MaxW=600)
With water streaming up against a sandbag wall in downtown Clarksville, visitors can readily do what the welcome sign says -- "Touch the Mississippi." [Brent Engel/GateHouse Missouri]

If it gets too bad at least they have their own bugout song: https://youtu.be/ZcXpKiY2MXE (https://youtu.be/ZcXpKiY2MXE)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on April 01, 2019, 07:33:50 PM
http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/04/01/idot-close-cora-floodgate-rt/ (http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/04/01/idot-close-cora-floodgate-rt/)
IDOT closes Cora Floodgate on Rt. 3, farmers frustrated
Southern Illinois detour due to high water


JACKSON COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - Due to high water from Mississippi River flooding, the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT) closed Illinois Route 3 at the Jackson-Randolph County line.

IDOT is closed Rt. 3 between IL 151 and Chester at the Cora Floodgate/Levee at 10 a.m. Monday, April 1.

This section of Rt. 3 will be closed until flood waters recede from the area.

Farmer Todd Dunn is frustrated.“We are not going to fight Mother Nature, she’s a powerful source," said Dunn.

However, Dunn is grateful the floodgate and its protection from the rising waters. “I’m very appreciative because that is my home, and nobody wants to lose their home - what we’d seen in ’93 and other years,” he said.

Volunteer Tom Shields, also a farmer, has been dealing with it for years.

“This has been here probably 50 years, it’s one of those deals that’s probably outdated, but it works and it’s paid for and as long as we got the help to put it in, it’s not that bad of deal.” Shields said he hopes the floodgate holds and keeps us safe.


Imagine being that guy who has to monitor it.  Best King of the Hill episode: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6txepu (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6txepu)
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on May 04, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
Be careful!  Water level and current speed are easy to underestimate.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/midwest-flooding-turns-deadly-mississippi-river-levels-rising-today-2019-05-03/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/midwest-flooding-turns-deadly-mississippi-river-levels-rising-today-2019-05-03/)

Flooding leaves 4 dead across Midwest as waters rise to historic levels

The latest round of flooding in the Midwest has claimed at least four lives, closed hundreds of roads and forced residents of threatened towns to shore up threatened levees with sandbags. In some communities, waters are rising to historic levels.

The National Weather Service issued flood warnings Friday along a large swath of the Mississippi River, as well as flash flood watches for parts of Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas after recent rounds of heavy rain.

"Do not drive or walk through areas where water covers roadway!" the service warned. "The water may be deeper than it appears. Remember... Turn around, don't drown!"
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on May 04, 2019, 04:35:36 PM
Our low water bridge has been out twice in recent weeks.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on May 27, 2019, 07:58:50 AM
Reminder, we arent out of the deep end yet.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/27/us/severe-weather-flood-watch-wxc/index.html (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/27/us/severe-weather-flood-watch-wxc/index.html)
Historic flooding expected as 3.6 million under flash flood watch

The threat of record flooding has areas of the central United States on alert after more than a week of extreme weather that has brought with it tornadoes, fierce winds and heavy rains.

Spring storms have resulted in five deaths in Missouri, one in Iowa and six in Oklahoma. In Indiana, a 4-year-old boy is missing after strong currents from heavy rains swept him away.

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on May 27, 2019, 09:22:08 AM
It's been a mess all around us
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on May 28, 2019, 12:09:45 PM
If you are in evacuation area around the Arkansas river, bug out now.  The river is expected to crest at unprecedented levels so historic expectations should not be trusted.

https://katv.com/news/local/expect-record-crests-along-arkansas-river (https://katv.com/news/local/expect-record-crests-along-arkansas-river)

Expect record crests along Arkansas River

Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on May 28, 2019, 05:11:25 PM
Just got a text alert that Truman Dam is within 1' of cresting.
They've been dumping water the last 2-3 days in anticipation of more rain.
I think (Corp) they've waited a little too late.
And, all that dumping ends up in Bagnell Dam, which was built in the 50's, and could use some work. If water flows over Bagnell (has a highway on top) it could get serious. Bagnell can't release massive amounts just cause. It will flood the towns below the flow.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on May 28, 2019, 05:21:51 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/28/mississippi-river-flooding-longest-lasting-since-great-flood-1927/1261049001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/28/mississippi-river-flooding-longest-lasting-since-great-flood-1927/1261049001/)
Mississippi River flood is longest-lasting in over 90 years, since 'Great Flood' of 1927
In Vicksburg, Mississippi, this is the longest continuous stretch above flood stage since 1927.

The Mississippi River at the Quad Cities saw its longest stretch above major flood stage ever recorded.

Flooding in at least 8 states along portions of the Mississippi River – due to relentless, record-breaking spring rainfall – is the longest-lasting since the "Great Flood" of 1927, the National Weather Service said.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on May 29, 2019, 06:35:10 AM
Excellent video by NBC showing extent of flooding there.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1011156 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1011156)
Dangerous floods leave Plains, Midwest 'at the mercy of Mother Nature'
"This is a very catastrophic, not-yet-over scenario that we're dealing with," a lawmaker says as historic floods threaten to worsen.


"We're still at the mercy of Mother Nature, waiting for the water to stop rising," Pat Crofts, the company's chief executive, said Tuesday.

The Army Corps of Engineers has been releasing 275,000 cubic feet of water per second from the Keystone Dam, which protects Tulsans from the waters of Keystone Lake and the Arkansas and Cimarron rivers upstream.

Authorities warned Tuesday that the release could raise standing floodwaters by more than a foot in Tulsa and the communities of Sand Springs and Bixby.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on July 12, 2019, 05:35:10 AM
So just got off phone with a geophysics friend of mine.  He says it is all hands on deck for the hydrologists.  They think that the amount of water headed to the Mississippi could potentially change its course in some places. Dont hear that very often!

Very close with storm coming.

https://m.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/ongoing-flooding-may-threaten-mississippi-rivers-old-river-control-structure/70008430 (https://m.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/ongoing-flooding-may-threaten-mississippi-rivers-old-river-control-structure/70008430)

How catastrophic flooding could change the course of the Mississippi River

Floodwaters rushing toward the rising Mississippi River forced the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to make the decision to open the rarely used Morganza Spillway on Thursday, June 6, to divert part of the river's flow into the Atchafalaya Basin.

About 24,000 acres are expected to flood as the water is funneled from the Mississippi River into the Atchafalaya River, according to USA TODAY. Residents and landowners in the path of the expected floods were alerted about the possibility last week.
...
The system is designed to prevent the Mississippi River from permanently altering course down the Atchafalaya River, bypassing Baton Rouge and New Orleans, but current flooding could put a strain on the system and in a worst-case scenario make it fail, causing the Mississippi River to change course down the Atchafalaya River.

"If the Mississippi River changes its course during a major flood, it would be a disaster for shipping and economic impacts in New Orleans and the lower end of the waterway," AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Alex Sosnowski said.
...
Gov. John Bel Edwards has requested a federal emergency declaration as the Mississippi River and other waterways continue to swell. However, Sosnowski doesn't think these floods will be too much to handle for the structures unless heavy rain from a tropical disturbance were to become involved over the next few weeks.


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/12/us/tropical-flooding-friday-wxc-trnd/index.html (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/12/us/tropical-flooding-friday-wxc-trnd/index.html)

Barry is a triple threat of storm surge, high rivers and flooding as it gets closer to the Louisiana coast

Barry is moving through the Gulf of Mexico and is the first tropical storm to threaten the United States this year. While there is a chance it could reach hurricane level, the real threat the storm poses is rain -- which could quickly turn into unprecedented flooding.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on July 12, 2019, 01:20:39 PM
https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_953dc0b6-a3ef-11e9-95d2-27965783f0ef.amp.html (https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_953dc0b6-a3ef-11e9-95d2-27965783f0ef.amp.html)
Coast Guard shutting Mississippi to all vessel traffic; Ports remain closed ahead of storm

The Coast Guard said Friday that would close the Mississippi River to all vessel traffic upriver as far as Angola, Louisiana, shutting down commerce on the waterway as Tropical Storm Barry is set to make landfall.

The shutdown adds to the precautions underway for shipping and other transportation in the region, where high river levels are adding to the other hazardous conditions expected from the storm. Barry is forecast to strengthen as it makes landfall along the Louisiana coast Saturday.

The Associated Branch Pilots, whose members pilot ships on the Mississippi River south of New Orleans, stopped moving vessels inbound and outbound to the mouth of the river on Wednesday. On Thursday, the Port of New Orleans ceased cargo-loading operations at its Napoleon Avenue container terminal in anticipation of the flood gates being closed by the Flood Protection Authority, which would prevent ships from docking.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: LvsChant on July 13, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
Wow... that sounds bad. I have many friends in that region...
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on July 13, 2019, 06:39:21 PM
Not looking good for sure.
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: iam4liberty on July 19, 2019, 08:58:00 PM
We are in the clear!  Luckily forecasts were off by about 1.5 feet, just enough for the earthworks to hold.

Now attention is returning to dredging.  Check out how much material the waters are moving:

https://www.wafb.com/2019/07/19/millions-dump-trucks-worth-river-sand-build-new-land-along-louisiana-coast/ (https://www.wafb.com/2019/07/19/millions-dump-trucks-worth-river-sand-build-new-land-along-louisiana-coast/)

Millions of dump trucks worth of river sand build new land along Louisiana coast
Dredging projects to keep the Mississippi River open to navigation provide benefits
Title: Re: 2019 Spring Floods
Post by: Stwood on July 19, 2019, 11:26:13 PM
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