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Survivalism & Self Sufficiency Topics => Emergency Preparations => Topic started by: Mr. Bill on May 23, 2019, 01:10:21 PM

Title: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Mr. Bill on May 23, 2019, 01:10:21 PM
Sweden's Myndigheten för samhällsskydd och beredskap (Civil Contingencies Agency) issued a brochure in May 2018 with suggestions for how to prepare for, and react during, a major emergency.  Some of the info is Sweden-specific, but much is just good prepping advice (although rather basic).

Here's their English-language version (8 MB PDF):

IF CRISIS OR WAR COMES (https://www.msb.se/Upload/Forebyggande/Krisberedskap/Krisberedskapsveckan/Fakta%20om%20broschyren%20Om%20krisen%20eller%20Kriget%20kommer/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer---engelska.pdf)
Title: Why Sweden is encouraging citizens to become preppers
Post by: FreeLancer on May 30, 2019, 03:54:01 PM
Australian public broadcasting:  Sweden's Crisis Preppers (https://youtu.be/YCAJofc4ajM) --- Dateline explores why disaster prepping has become a government sanctioned pastime in Sweden, but who or what are they afraid of?
Title: Re: Emergency preparedness brochure, courtesy of Sweden
Post by: ChEng on June 07, 2019, 01:01:27 PM
My son gave that to me the other day. It has some good info in it.
Title: Swedish War & Prepping Manual (+video)
Post by: Greekman on June 14, 2019, 03:53:28 AM
well, if you were following the Ukranian crisis you must definetely taken wiff that the situation became tense in the Swedish waters where USSR submarines entered.
the whole situation was a sudden awakening for the Swedes and Europe in general, the public beleiving there could be no war in the continent again.

So, Sweden started re-arming and re-preparing itself.
Among other things a cold war era pamplet was re-issued.
IF CRISIS OR WAR COMES

Links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_the_war_comes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_the_war_comes)
https://archive.org/details/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer---engelska  (https://archive.org/details/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer---engelska)(multile formats available)
Alternate pdf sources
https://www.dinsakerhet.se/siteassets/dinsakerhet.se/broschyren-om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer---engelska.pdf (https://www.dinsakerhet.se/siteassets/dinsakerhet.se/broschyren-om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer---engelska.pdf)

and YT video link (SBS Channel reportage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCAJofc4ajM
Title: Re: Swedish War & Prepping Manual (+video)
Post by: Redman on June 14, 2019, 04:01:26 AM
Very interesting Greekman.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: LvsChant on June 14, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
I found it very interesting that the country spends such a small amount on their own defense... they readily admit that they couldn't possibly defend their country against any sort of invasion without help from other neighboring countries or the US.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Greekman on June 15, 2019, 12:35:22 AM
LvsChant
Did you catch the numbers contained in the vid? They went from a army of 700.000 to an army of 50.000 (regular army and home guard).
yes it can happen, and the defense press is full of horror stories of the diminished German Army too.
There are two reasons for it:
1. the false sense of security the fall of the Communist Regimes brought to Europe
2. fueling the pretense of prosperity by the late european goverments. i.e Germany has about 0.3-0.5% of GDP growth, spending 1.2% of its budget on the Armed Forces. IF it is forced to spend the NATO demanded 2%, would kill its good financial numbers and bring the economy on a standstill or worse, and white colar paper pusher goverments and their publicists do not like that.

I had a good lough when i heard the general in the vid saying that they would solicit the help of allies.
With the northern European countries at the same sorry army disrepair who would help who against the USSR?
(Germany "cooked the books" by presenting an alliance with Austria to combine mechanized divisions and there is an ongoing plan to lease arms for the sake of Baltic states' defense from other european countries (namely Greece) but that does not raise the numbers against the Soviet army, does it?)

PS..Sorry for not checking that the very same content was posted some time ago...Do not know how i missed it, since I always check the E.P. category for new posts.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: LvsChant on June 15, 2019, 08:07:45 AM
I think that is the story for a lot of our European allies... and I don't think Sweden is even a part of NATO, so they are totally dependent upon the goodwill and self-interest of their neighbors rather than any alliance.

Many U.S. Socialist politicians point to Sweden's social programs as a model for the US, yet this lack of preparation for their own defense is a definite "fly in the ointment". If Sweden and other European nations were preparing for their own defense, they surely would have a problem economically, as you mention.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Carver on June 15, 2019, 11:15:17 AM
I'm not sure if Germany is allowed by their constitution to have a military.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Greekman on June 15, 2019, 04:28:24 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr

it does...but the WWII treaty forbid nuclear weapons and set a upwards limit to army personnel
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: FreeLancer on June 15, 2019, 05:48:25 PM
Anybody notice the weird little churchillian admonition in the red box at the bottom of page 12?

Quote
If Sweden is attacked by another country, we will never give up. All information to the effect that resistance is to cease is false.

How does that work?  Everybody heads to the hills Forest Brothers style?
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Greekman on June 16, 2019, 01:15:07 AM
I guess something much more (state) organized

https://archive.org/details/TotalResistanceSwissArmyGuideToGuerrillaWarfareAndUnderground/page/n1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxiliary_Units

and THIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#Sweden

few months ago I watched and very interesting video on YT about a Swiss state bunker opened that was associated with Gladio, but I cannot find it again
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Carver on June 16, 2019, 07:20:49 PM
I searched for swiss bunker on YT and there were a good number of results.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Greekman on June 17, 2019, 03:14:00 AM
I know but I am referring to something much more than a bunker, considering the paramilitary nature of Gladio
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: LvsChant on June 17, 2019, 11:40:09 PM
I'm not sure if Germany is allowed by their constitution to have a military.

They certainly used to have a military... in fact they had a mandatory service requirement for young folks when we were stationed there. I know that fighter pilots for the German air force are still trained in the US, too, although they may be winding that down at this point.

I don't know what post WWII restrictions they have...
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: Carver on June 19, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
I would think that both Japan and Germany would be restricted to defense. In looking for an answer I ran across an article describing how Germany has gotten around WWII restrictions by joining with other European countries a sort of underground military.
Title: Re: Sweden prepping info [merged topics]
Post by: David in MN on June 19, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Having spent some time in Germany (nearly moving there) with Germans I got a feel. Of course guns are horrible and only a crazy person would own one but then in quiet conversation under their breath they all want one. And when they come here we take them shooting and all love it. They're all big time food hippies too.

The Swedes feel different. It's more like "I have a gun for defense (bears), food for the winter, snowshoes, a dog team, and an organized citizen response team but I've never heard of prepping. It's just what you do.