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Title: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: ModernSurvival on August 17, 2009, 02:26:27 PM
This guy had a big problem with wild hogs on his ranch.  What is a red neck to do?

Step One, get you one of these!

(http://survivalpodcast.net/images/hog-buggy.jpg)



Step Two, shoot you some hogs!

(http://survivalpodcast.net/images/hogs.jpg)

Problem Solved!
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 17, 2009, 02:34:41 PM
Ok, now I'm a little confused.
A family member sent me a picture from their vacation where they went diving and caught a bunch of lobsters over the weekend.
The whole group posed for the picture all holding a lobster in their teeth over a huge pile of lobsters like the guy above and his piglet.
Is this a new trend that somehow got past me?
Holding your kill in your teeth over a pile of carcasses?



BTW, that buggy looks like it was designed by Ten Nugent.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: bartsdad on August 18, 2009, 12:17:09 AM
A: Them guys better get busy and start dressing those critters.

B: If Ted was involved it would probably have zebra stripes on the hood.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: el greco on August 19, 2009, 10:04:04 PM
Have you guys seen the doc. "Pig Bomb" ?

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/pig-bomb-super-pigs.html (http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/pig-bomb-super-pigs.html)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: bartsdad on August 19, 2009, 11:34:39 PM
Then there is the Elk Bomb:
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2219/pb160046.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/pb160046.jpg/)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 20, 2009, 04:15:58 AM
Have you guys seen the doc. "Pig Bomb" ?

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/pig-bomb-super-pigs.html (http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/pig-bomb-super-pigs.html)
I saw it when it came on TV back a couple of months or so.

It was interesting.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on August 20, 2009, 04:48:41 AM
Don't get me started on wild hogs - every winter I have a war with them at BOL - they come out of the mtn wilderness to the valleys to root.  A few of them don't go back to the mountains though....  :)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog%20damage%20dec%202006/IMG_0234.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog/MillsapBoar008.jpg)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: ejsandstrom on August 20, 2009, 07:41:38 AM
I am torn on this personaly. I am not a hunter, but not in a bark humping, dirt eating kind of way, its just not my thing. I have thought about deer hunting because I would eat what I killed. I wouldent prairie dog hunting, or cyote hunting, because I see it as killing for sport. However after I watched "Pig Bomb" I was looking into hunting pigs. However my understanding is that .223 is not a big enough cartridge. Another thing is that I couldend use dogs, and it seems that that is the preferd way to go.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on August 20, 2009, 12:37:32 PM
223 is plenty if you have and take a good shot.   

(And can shoot of course)

NV is a big advantage too if allowed in your state.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog/MillsapBoar002.jpg)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: RUReady on September 13, 2009, 06:45:25 PM
223 is plenty if you have and take a good shot.   

(And can shoot of course)

NV is a big advantage too if allowed in your state.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog/MillsapBoar002.jpg)

   Nice shot behind the ear. That looks like a lot of fun hunting big varmints! Would love to try that sometime. I have shot most of my deer in the last 15yrs with a AR15. I have been using Nosler BT 55gr, but last year loaded up some Sierra 65gr Game Kings (new bullet). Took my friend deer hunting last year to help him get a deer(he has health problems). So I packed my 11.5in SBR to drive deer to him. He ended up shooting a nice doe. As I was hiking back to the truck to pick the deer up, a doe stood up at 128yds (I ranged it). It just took one well placed shot to put it on the ground. Was real pleased with the new bullet.

   Dave
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: CFG on September 13, 2009, 10:30:19 PM
Ha, that's funny, Jack.

But speaking of rednecks, some have put feral hogs out to pasture in different places in AL and they're such a problem that hunting is strongly encouraged; year-round season on private land.

Tip: don't send dogs after them.  I've heard terrible stories about what they do to dogs.  And people that can't climb fast enough too, for that matter.

Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: TexDaddy on September 13, 2009, 10:35:55 PM
... I've heard terrible stories about what they do to dogs. 
Yeah, remember what that sow did to Travis and Ol' Yeller?
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on September 14, 2009, 04:52:21 PM
I found a local with dogs that is hell on hogs.  He has "bayers" to track and run them and "bulls" to take them down.  One the dogs have a hog pinned (jaws locked on legs shoulders ears etc) he finishes the job with a nice sized bowie knife.   I call him whenever we start seeing regular activity;  he's beating the traps and my rifles in harvest count over the last 3 years by a good margin.

Still, I prefer shooting them using any advantages I can come up with;  I have 2 gen3 NV rigs but they don't come close to the thermal images in this vid: :

JAGER PRO Thermal Hog Hunting (4)- 13 Hogs in One Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLp6DQjDjxw#normal)

Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: CFG on September 14, 2009, 07:35:10 PM
I found a local with dogs that is hell on hogs.  He has "bayers" to track and run them and "bulls" to take them down.  One the dogs have a hog pinned (jaws locked on legs shoulders ears etc) he finishes the job with a nice sized bowie knife.   I call him whenever we start seeing regular activity;  he's beating the traps and my rifles in harvest count over the last 3 years by a good margin.


That's cool.  I just wanted to warn anyone who was inexperienced.  I've been told of people losing good dogs because they sent them in where angels fear to tread, knowwhatahmean?  I'd love to see your friend's dogs in action.  I personally have no desire to hunt crazy hogs unless they start trespassing. Ugh.  You guys go with your bad selves.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on September 14, 2009, 08:07:25 PM
coldfish,

Yeah my issue has only been with the "trespassing" swine on one particular 133 acre land lot in Fannin Co GA.   My wife says I went off kind of like Bill Murray on the gophers in Caddyshack, and I really can't deny it.

Another sample of hog trespassing:

Hog-Divot:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog%20damage%20dec%202006/IMG_0233.jpg)

Hog-Bomb Crater:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog%20damage%20dec%202006/IMG_0208.jpg)

Hog-Creek bottom Landscaping

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog%20damage%20dec%202006/IMG_0225.jpg)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: CFG on September 14, 2009, 09:32:01 PM
 :D
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: RUReady on September 14, 2009, 09:40:10 PM
    Damn, that sure looks like fun to me. Do you use a can with the NV? I have not shot NV with a can, seems like a good combination. The video was great!
 Looks like you will never run out of bacon ;D

   Dave
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on September 15, 2009, 04:30:28 PM
The thermal night vision video is not me- I don't know who it is, someone sent it to me but it looks to be in south GA by the flatness of the land.

I have cans and NV but not configured on the same weapon. I don't have thermal nv, the last I saw those were 5-10k i think.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: Roswell on September 15, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
Don't get me started on wild hogs - every winter I have a war with them at BOL - they come out of the mtn wilderness to the valleys to root.  A few of them don't go back to the mountains though....  :)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog%20damage%20dec%202006/IMG_0234.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/Hog/MillsapBoar008.jpg)

Cohutt, PM me any time you need help with those piggies. I have been trying to find a place to go for a while now.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: IdahoJohn on September 23, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
If Idaho wasn't so far away, I'd be there in a second to help with the battle of the bores!
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: CountryRootsCityJob on October 27, 2009, 07:38:04 AM
I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread... now I really need a new rifle!  ;D
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: nyhomesteader on October 27, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
man you guys know how to live it up down south!! reminds me of how bad new york sucks! i hear the piggies are slowly making their way up here. can't wait to see what our liberal anti gun/hunting government plans to do when they do! probably charge us even more for our hunting licences for the honor of harvesting a commodity-pork!
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: Pathfinder on October 27, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
I am torn on this personaly. I am not a hunter, but not in a bark humping, dirt eating kind of way, its just not my thing. I have thought about deer hunting because I would eat what I killed. I wouldent prairie dog hunting, or cyote hunting, because I see it as killing for sport. However after I watched "Pig Bomb" I was looking into hunting pigs. However my understanding is that .223 is not a big enough cartridge. Another thing is that I couldend use dogs, and it seems that that is the preferd way to go.

You can probably afford to think that way. Then again, as a former rancher whose seen the back end of a cow torn apart as the coyotes (plural) chewed on her as she was birthing, I don't feel that way. The cow survived enough to physically recover, then off to market (too badly damaged). We never did find the calf.

Thankfully, I've never lost a horse or cow to a prairie dog hole (too far north), but I know people who have.

On the ranch, coyotes get shot on sight simply for the damage they have done, do and can do. Same with prairie dogs. Ain't no sport, just a chore.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on October 27, 2009, 01:05:18 PM
You can probably afford to think that way. Then again, as a former rancher whose seen the back end of a cow torn apart as the coyotes (plural) chewed on her as she was birthing, I don't feel that way. The cow survived enough to physically recover, then off to market (too badly damaged). We never did find the calf.

Thankfully, I've never lost a horse or cow to a prairie dog hole (too far north), but I know people who have.

On the ranch, coyotes get shot on sight simply for the damage they have done, do and can do. Same with prairie dogs. Ain't no sport, just a chore.
^  This.

Some do kill for sport, but in the long run the populations need to be kept in check by some other means than natural selection.

Coyote populations are dense here, if left to their own they'll wreak havoc on turkey, deer & many other types of animals.  Ain't no love for coyotes around here & while I don't proactively hunt them, if I'm sitting in the woods hunting something else I won't let a 'yote pass without exercising population control. 

Back on topic....
Pigs are even worse than 'yotes.  They'll absolutely decimate farm land, eating or rooting up anything that is planted.  They'll eat turkey eggs, baby animals...whatever they come across.  Plus they breed like rabbits & once established are almost impossible to get rid of. 

We only have sparse populations of feral hogs in SEMO but even so we've not been able to eliminate them completely because they're extremely smart & tough.  They scratch a living out of anywhere they're driven to hide.  Our pigs here have so much pressure on them they're almost entirely nocturnal which makes them even harder to pattern & hunt unless you buy expensive night vision gear or dogs to drive them out of the places that people can't get into.  Feral hogs are considered a shoot on sight animal by our Dept. of Conservation.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: ChiefCornerstone on November 04, 2009, 12:21:44 PM
  The most effective way I have found is trapping.  The best one is one called the pinwheel trap, it allows the pigs in all they want but will not let them out.  One thing about pigs that is their weakness is food.. You let corn soak in water out in the sun for about a week and let it get good and nasty, you got  hog ice cream right there..   1 thing hogs follow to food is  there nose. You get that nasty smell, and it is a dinner bell to them.  I have kept traps in the same place for a long time and if it has food they don't care. Eventually I move them when ya thin them out.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: barnesglobal on November 04, 2009, 12:33:46 PM
I have heard - but not tried - that kool aid can be used to attract pigs.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on November 04, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
sorghum, sour mash,  koolaid, diesel all have been sworn by depending on the hunter.

nailing a bristle doormat with roofing tar smeared on it to a tree where they rub will keep them coming back for more.

I've used two trap designs successfully
A take down corral type one made from t-posts and 3 hog panels.  Worked pretty well last winter
The portable cage one below, sitting on its side.  When this is in my truck I have people roll down their windows and ask what the heck it is at every other intersection.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/misc111.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/cohutt/misc113.jpg)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: ChiefCornerstone on November 06, 2009, 07:02:12 AM
   I like that trap. My buddy got one rigged up so we can pull it with out 4-wheelers.  It is pretty rugged to.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: ejsandstrom on November 10, 2009, 07:05:13 AM
You can probably afford to think that way. Then again, as a former rancher whose seen the back end of a cow torn apart as the coyotes (plural) chewed on her as she was birthing, I don't feel that way. The cow survived enough to physically recover, then off to market (too badly damaged). We never did find the calf.

Thankfully, I've never lost a horse or cow to a prairie dog hole (too far north), but I know people who have.

On the ranch, coyotes get shot on sight simply for the damage they have done, do and can do. Same with prairie dogs. Ain't no sport, just a chore.

Yes I can afford to think this way. Where I live folks go cyote hunting for the sport of it. Prairie dogs are treated as moving target practice. I understand the need to hunt them for practical purposes, just not for sport. A friend of mine was telling me about shooting beavers and I couldent imagine it. UNtill I went to visit and senn what they had done to his trees, pond and other damage.

My post wasnt meant to be an inditement of any one, just my observation. A friend of mine wants to bear hunt, I dont see it as anything other than killing a bear for the sake of saying I killed a bear. Bears are not like deer around here.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: BigDanInTX on November 10, 2009, 07:13:20 AM
When this is in my truck I have people roll down their windows and ask what the heck it is at every other intersection.
You should just tell them it's a rat trap...  ;-]

I may get my first chance at hogs in a few weeks.  A buddy of mine has a friend that needs some thinned out.  He's just not sure if he wants to take deer first or not.  I find out soon, but I'm down for whichever.  =-D
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on November 10, 2009, 04:56:45 PM
LOL
I told one carload of eemeegrints it was an alligator trap, that the leezards had been coming off the river and snatching landscape crewmen off their mowers.  Nevermind I'm in N GA, they seemed to take notice.

My son thought it'd be funny for him to crawl in and let me drive him around downtown for a while to see how long before some outraged citizen called 911 or family/children services.  I declined, my purposefully jackass years are long behind me.... ;)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: CountryRootsCityJob on November 16, 2009, 06:16:08 AM

My son thought it'd be funny for him to crawl in and let me drive him around downtown for a while to see how long before some outraged citizen called 911 or family/children services.  I declined, my purposefully jackass years are long behind me.... ;)


Sorry, can't help it... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! ;D  ;D  ;D
That would be amazingly awesome!  *(Never mind that you'd get some kind of ticket for a seatbelt violation or something)  Haha, I'm reminded of the scene in Babes in Toyland where the guy tricks the kids into climbing into the back of the wagon...  Still, that's hilarious!
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: cohutt on November 16, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
;)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: MD3C on November 16, 2009, 05:27:02 PM
I've roped a couple out in the flats before. Pretty fun deal. The hog would get tired/pissy and come up the rope popping it jaws. Most saddle horses today don't know that experience. Anyway, I'd take off, air him out, ear mark, castrate the males, and go on our way.
Have shot plenty in the horse pens at the house. That place had walnut trees in all of the pens at the house.
I could step out my back door in my skivvies, and pop one in the ear with a 22 quite often.
Went to trapping them later. Soaked a can of corn for bait. it seemed to work?
Ah, the good old days.
I doubt the hogs could live in my desert?
M
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: Chance Sanders on February 27, 2010, 02:43:05 PM
Caught my first hog about a month ago. Dogs grab the pig then you and a buddy run up there and tie it up. Meat is tender if you catch one about 75-150.
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: millwright on April 16, 2010, 11:43:36 PM
The ultimate hog hunt.

These guys get payed to do this!!     :excited:

Nueces Helicopter Pig Hunt (no music) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
Title: Re: How to solve a Wild Hog Problem
Post by: millwright on April 18, 2010, 02:01:27 AM
Or try here


http://www.youtube (http://www.youtube)..com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE