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Title: Men don't wear bras
Post by: monkeyboyf on February 25, 2012, 08:35:55 PM
most of them anyway, but I'm sure they designed them as instruments of torture in the middle ages. ;) After many years and many dollars I have actually tried and successfully worn one for more than an hour without being ready for a nervous breakdown.
Woohoo, found the comfortable one at this late date.  It's the Genie as advertised on tv.Got mine at CVS.
I know this doesn't sound earth shattering to the guys, but it's very important to our well being and disposition.   ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: archer on February 25, 2012, 08:41:18 PM
I am NOT going to ask...
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: monkeyboyf on February 25, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
I am a female, Archer.  lol
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: rustyknife on February 25, 2012, 10:05:39 PM
My wife is one that is very self conscious if she is not wearing one. She has shown me sores where stays have worked through after wearing them for hours. I sympathize and as such have asked her to select a brand and style that fits well, regardless of the costs. I concure that this item of clothing has a tremendous effect on their overall disposition and well being.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 25, 2012, 10:23:13 PM
Wearing  a bra for me is getting dressed up.  Literally since gravity has taken over ::)  I tried the genie bras I figured why not they averaged  only about $10 each very cheap compared to the $75 I was spending.  If they didn't work was going to have to have custom made ouch $$$ .  They worked!  :happydance: I can start the lawn mower and chain saw without getting hurt.  Climb through a fence with out getting stuck. And this summer no more thinking about T's and ace bandage.  No more dents in my shoulder.  No more Red sore marks any where.  And best of all no more wires digging in or being cut in half every time I bend over or sit.   They really don't even roll up.   The down side hubby couldn't figure out how to work it ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Red Beard (UKtheBUNNY) on February 25, 2012, 10:30:18 PM
You mean this isn't a comfortable bra?

(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwdhmqj4f7kYIXyNTxdh7BuyjpWGuNX66vPtKPvCFl4xrDNdDgFA)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 25, 2012, 10:38:02 PM
Nope not comfy but does match the tin foil hat
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Goatdog62 on February 25, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
For the comfort of women everywhere, bras should never be worn again by any woman.

We'll all have to adjust to the change, but we'll be okay I think.







 ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on February 26, 2012, 01:31:20 AM
I have been firmly convinced for many years that bras were one of three evils created by men to keep women in bondage.  oh, what are the other two? nylons and heels.

seriously though, I do not wear one.  would you wear shoes if you didn't have feet?  although, when pregnant and nursing, I do grow just a tad.  ::)  I am hoping that when I am done with that nonsense, I can go back to my small state.  meanwhile, I am looking for a comfortable bra that will support these monsters necessary for my baby.  I will look into this.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: BikerKat on February 26, 2012, 05:48:31 AM
I saw the Genie bra and wondered if they really hold up.  I refuse to wear bras with wire in them and do not understand why women wear wire
pressing and digging into them.  I love sports bras or anything without the torture.  I want something with comfort and I can run in. CVS here I come!  One more thing to put into my BOB.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Nicodemus on February 26, 2012, 06:50:23 AM
Men don't wear bras, they wear Bros or Manssieres.  ???
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Robinelli on February 26, 2012, 07:46:45 AM
I saw the Genie bra and wondered if they really hold up.  I refuse to wear bras with wire in them and do not understand why women wear wire
pressing and digging into them.  I love sports bras or anything without the torture.  I want something with comfort and I can run in. CVS here I come!  One more thing to put into my BOB.
I can't stand the bras with only elastic. They ride up and I have to keep pulling them down. It makes me nuts!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Cedar on February 26, 2012, 08:00:39 AM
Underwires suck

And no.. they did not do large scale production on bras until the 1930's. They had corsets before that and bodices before that. I love my medieval garb as pretty much you wear your 'bra' on the outside and very comfy. When I wear my 'tavern' dresses VS my fancy garb, I usually am working in them and have milked goats, blacksmithed, lampworked and gardened in them. Also easy to make and if the worst case scenario ever happened, SO easy to make and pretty much one size fits all.

Cedar
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: KellyAnn on February 26, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Underwires suck

I can't imagine wearing a bra without an underwire.  Just cannot get enough support with the unwired ones.
Think the preference may have something to do with the size of the load you're hauling.

Regardless of what style you like, it's often a good idea to get a bra fitting from the specialists in the bra section of the department store (or wherever you buy your bras).  I always try to look for the oldest lady in the section, they usually know their stuff & can point you to the best fitting bra for you.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 26, 2012, 09:30:47 AM
Yes they say that most women don't wear the correct size or fit.  Having someone fit you is so important.  When I had my fitting done I went from wearing a D to a DDD.  Since I was wearing a T-shirt hubby just stared and said dang honey with a smile on his face.  I told him that's the cheapest boob job in history you are one lucky man.   

If you are hauling a load and want to jog I would say that most likely the Genie bra won't cut it.  Well it wouldn't for me.  You can double up on them and that may work? 

Heals and panty hose suck.  I use to have to wear them working in certain environments where it was expected.  Every day after work it was run to the car.  Off with the bra off with the shoes off with the pantyhose off with the jacket and skirt. One day when hubby's car broke down he got a ride to my office.  Started with the jacket said here honey throw it in the back then the skirt bra shoes hose and so on.  He just looked at me what the hell are you doing a strip tease for?  Do you do this every day?  yup and pulled sweats out of my purse.  Slid them on at the parking lot stop sign and said hand me my shoes under your feet.  He laughed  so hard and said dang it must suck to be a woman and have to wear all that stuff.  Now I know why you always have to go to the car to look for clothes.   

As far as I am concerned having to wear that garb is enough reason to quit your job and find a new one.   ;) 
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: The Professor on February 26, 2012, 10:25:50 AM
Okay, I'll admit it.  I found the original posting a bit disturbing.

However, remember that guys don't wear bras.  They're called bro's.

Or, the mansier.

And yes, I've seen guys who SHOULD be wearing them.

The Professor
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: summer98 on February 26, 2012, 10:56:21 AM
I'm one of those women who has to wear a bra with an underwire. Nothing else will support the load I have to carry around. Some of them won't, either. I have to be very careful when buying bras -I've bought some that fit well, only to have them deform and become useless within a couple of months. Cheap bras just don't cut it with someone like me. I hate bras, but my job wouldn't let me work without one on. As soon as I get home, however, (and sometimes in the car) the dratted thing comes off.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on February 26, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
in college - at my WOMEN'S college - I held the record for being able to remove my bra from under my shirt (ya know, not disrobing in any way except that thing) faster than anyone.  I think they clocked it at 3 seconds, but it may have been 4.  there were a few friends who claimed they could have beaten me, only.... they couldn't find their bra that morning  ;D

my SIL has had a very frank talk with me about my daughters.  one looks like me.  she is currently 8yo.  my guess is that she will grow up to be like me in the bosom department - maybe a size B pre-child bearing.  my other (currently 5yo) has looked like her paternal aunts since the day she was born.  I am not sure exactly what size they are, but it is LARGE.  I am fairly sure she will be "well-endowed."  anyway, SIL is very concerned that since I do not wear one, my girls will not want to either.  me, I am not concerned.  I am pretty sure that 5-yo will find it much more comfortable to wear one than not.  I am also not going to force 8-yo to wear one, if, like me, she doesn't have much there.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on February 26, 2012, 11:55:08 AM
Maybe I'm brainwashed, but I just can't go out without one on. It would be like not wearing pants. That said, I never wear one around the house or yard. Of course, if someone pulls into the drive I'll sprint in to the house to get one on before they get to the house! I like the sport bras but my DH complains that it makes me look like I have a tumor on my chest. Can't stand underwires...too many stab wounds over the years from them poking out of the material.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Cedar on February 26, 2012, 01:08:41 PM
I think it was Javanese women who literally had no incidence of breast cancer before starting to dress "western" and that included bras.

Singer and Grismaijer found was that the odds of getting breast cancer dramatically increased with bra-wearing over 12 hours per day.

    * Women who wore their bras 24 hours per day had a 3 out of 4 chance of developing breast cancer (in their study, n=2056 for the cancer group and n=2674 for the standard group).
    * Women who wore bras more than 12 hour per day but not to bed had a 1 out of 7 risk.
    * Women who wore their bras less than 12 hours per day had a 1 out of 152 risk.
    * Women who wore bras rarely or never had a 1 out of 168 chance of getting breast cancer. The overall difference between 24 hour wearing and not at all was a 125-fold difference.

Cedar
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on February 26, 2012, 01:24:51 PM

Singer and Grismaijer found was that the odds of getting breast cancer dramatically increased with bra-wearing over 12 hours per day.


Would that be a Mr. Singer and a Mr. Grismaijer?  :o How healthy would we get if we just went totally naked most of the time?  ;D

(Not poking fun at the science, Cedar-just having a laugh!)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Cedar on February 26, 2012, 01:27:09 PM
Either healthier or hypothermic  ;)

Cedar
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on February 26, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: TwoBluesMama on February 26, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
I think it was Javanese women who literally had no incidence of breast cancer before starting to dress "western" and that included bras.

Singer and Grismaijer found was that the odds of getting breast cancer dramatically increased with bra-wearing over 12 hours per day.

    * Women who wore their bras 24 hours per day had a 3 out of 4 chance of developing breast cancer (in their study, n=2056 for the cancer group and n=2674 for the standard group).
    * Women who wore bras more than 12 hour per day but not to bed had a 1 out of 7 risk.
    * Women who wore their bras less than 12 hours per day had a 1 out of 152 risk.
    * Women who wore bras rarely or never had a 1 out of 168 chance of getting breast cancer. The overall difference between 24 hour wearing and not at all was a 125-fold difference.

Cedar

Now I'm REALLY glad I burnt mine in the early 70's.  Sometimes it pays to be an old hippie.  Thanks Cedar!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on February 26, 2012, 04:44:46 PM
I, too, wish I could do without mine. But gravity has gotten to me as well. The rash that developes if I don't wear one doesn't make the "freedom" worth it. I do wear old raggegy ones around the house, tho. (Streached out and frayed.) But, If I go anywhere, I have to change into a "good" one.  Cross Your Heart worked well for me, but have trouble finding them now.

(Although when I totaled my truck and the seatbelt caused so much damage to my "chest", the bra just irritated the injuries. Still today - a little more than a month later - seatbelts will be uncomfortable at times.)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 26, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
I can't imagine wearing a bra without an underwire.  Just cannot get enough support with the unwired ones.
Think the preference may have something to do with the size of the load you're hauling.

Thank youuuu!!!

I was reading all the complaints and I'm like... SRSLY. I have actual boobs over here. They're completely out of control (god bless my mother's genes) - AND since I'm not a total fatty, they don't seem to make bras that fit me correctly (they don't even make the right size) at Target/Ross/wherever. If Victorias Secret didn't exist, I would be the most miserable woman on the planet.

I love that store. I cannot live without it. They are the only company out there that makes a bra that doesn't stab the hell out of me, or refuse to actually support my boobies, or cause sores (yeah, I've been through all that).

It's worth the $60 to get a bra that won't leave me in tears within a month. Plus, TW thinks they are adorable and he turns into a very happy hubby when I tell him I need to go to VS to get some new pretties. :)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 26, 2012, 05:31:07 PM
PS - I love heels and panty hose. Feeling sexy is an important part of being a woman. If we didn't like them at all, we wouldn't buy them and wear them.

<--- Looks hot in a skirt and heels and thinks panty hose are the warmest things ever under my snow bib. :)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 26, 2012, 05:47:52 PM
    * Women who wore their bras 24 hours per day had a 3 out of 4 chance of developing breast cancer (in their study, n=2056 for the cancer group and n=2674 for the standard group).
    * Women who wore bras more than 12 hour per day but not to bed had a 1 out of 7 risk.
    * Women who wore their bras less than 12 hours per day had a 1 out of 152 risk.
    * Women who wore bras rarely or never had a 1 out of 168 chance of getting breast cancer. The overall difference between 24 hour wearing and not at all was a 125-fold difference.

Interesting.  My first question is whether they corrected for size and age.  I assume that women who are larger and/or older are less likely to go bra-less, for comfort reasons.  If these same women are at greater risk for cancer, that would skew the statistics.

Honestly, I am only reading this thread for my wife's benefit.  Because she has trouble finding one that fits correctly.

Really I am.

I have actual boobs over here. They're completely out of control

:rofl:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Cedar on February 26, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
I, too, wish I could do without mine. But gravity has gotten to me as well. Cross Your Heart worked well for me, but have trouble finding them now.

Wow... thankfully there are bra threads on TSP, I though you were MALE this whole time..  :)

Cedar
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on February 26, 2012, 06:03:10 PM
Wow... thankfully there are bra threads on TSP, I though you were MALE this whole time..  :)

Cedar

LOL! I guess the "name" does confuse, doesn't it.
I am ALL woman, ancient, but still woman.  ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: TwoBluesMama on February 26, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
I am ALL woman, ancient, but still woman.  ;D

I think I may have to steal this quote and have it printed on a tee shirt!   :clap:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: 4bull on February 26, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
If the Girls arnt happy MOMA aint happy :(
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on February 26, 2012, 08:16:21 PM
The former aide that I had on my bus gave me a T-shirt for Christmas that read "I'm still hot. But, now it comes in flashes."  I LOVE IT!!  ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on February 26, 2012, 08:17:14 PM
If the Girls arnt happy MOMA aint happy :(

You got that right!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: monkeyboyf on February 26, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
I am so glad I started this thread.   Archer knows I am female, and all my TSP friends have the same problems finding comfort.  See, we is prepping ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: archer on February 26, 2012, 09:10:35 PM
I am so glad I started this thread.   Archer knows I am female, and all my TSP friends have the same problems finding comfort.  See, we is prepping ;D

i''m just going to sit here in the corner and hang my head in shame...
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: monkeyboyf on February 26, 2012, 09:13:04 PM
Can't imagine why anyone would not know I'm an old lady,hehe
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: archer on February 26, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
Can't imagine why anyone would not know I'm an old lady,hehe
'cause i saw 'monkeyBOYf' and made a dumb assumption... even though i kinda sorta remember that you are a woman. i blame 14 days of work w/o a  day off.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 26, 2012, 09:39:31 PM
good save archer. 
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on February 27, 2012, 05:37:52 AM
For anyone who hasn't yet found one that works for them, I'd recommend Decent Exposures (http://www.decentexposures.com/index.shtml). The bras are made to order so size selection is far beyond what you'll find in retail stores, in fact, they even make in-between sizes. If the bra you purchase doesn't work they'll adjust it as needed for free within 2 months of purchase, up to and including totally remaking it. Pricing varies but mine have been around $35 including shipping.

Had a good experience with customer service; they seem to be a company that actually wants you to end up comfortable and happy. :) My only note of warning is that many of the bras are unlined by default, making the cups a single layer of fabric (think T-shirt material) so if you need it thicker than that either choose a lined option, get pockets, or otherwise specify the requirement in the order form. It looks like they have specific fabrics (http://www.decentexposures.com/fabrics.shtml) for firm support without underwires, and the option to use ribbing (http://www.decentexposures.com/custom.shtml) instead of elastic so there's nothing tight around your ribcage is also an interesting one to me.

Come to think of it, skills in sewing a comfortable bra could be in high demand if a long-term SHTF scenario caused an issue with retail stores. Either that or people could wear corsets again, as Cedar suggested. Those always did look comfy to me...er, the practical ones, that is. ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: summer98 on February 27, 2012, 05:40:59 AM

I was reading all the complaints and I'm like... SRSLY. I have actual boobs over here. They're completely out of control (god bless my mother's genes) - AND since I'm not a total fatty, they don't seem to make bras that fit me correctly (they don't even make the right size) at Target/Ross/wherever. If Victorias Secret didn't exist, I would be the most miserable woman on the planet.

Thank you, SW! I've always avoided VS because of the lingerie image, but I'll have to go there and check them out. I have the exact same problem. I'm fairly skinny with a large chest. The last time I went bra shopping, I only found a few bras that were even in my size. It's like they assume that anyone who is a "D" cup or larger is also a 40 or larger.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on February 27, 2012, 08:43:27 AM
For anyone who hasn't yet found one that works for them, I'd recommend Decent Exposures (http://www.decentexposures.com/index.shtml). The bras are made to order so size selection is far beyond what you'll find in retail stores, in fact, they even make in-between sizes. If the bra you purchase doesn't work they'll adjust it as needed for free within 2 months of purchase, up to and including totally remaking it. Pricing varies but mine have been around $35 including shipping.

Dainty - that is an amazing site.  I need to look at it more.  thank you!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 27, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
If the Girls arnt happy MOMA aint happy :(

And if moma aint happy anit no body happy
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 27, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
Thank you, SW! I've always avoided VS because of the lingerie image, but I'll have to go there and check them out. I have the exact same problem. I'm fairly skinny with a large chest. The last time I went bra shopping, I only found a few bras that were even in my size. It's like they assume that anyone who is a "D" cup or larger is also a 40 or larger.

Oh my gosh, you are missin' out, girl. Go there, and talk to a woman who works there. She will fit you to THEIR bras, and will help you find one that fits what you want in a bra. VS are THE BEST bras on the market as far as I'm concerned and I've tried almost all of them out there.

Check out  their Biofit, Body, and T-shirt bras. I own and worship all three. You're gonna have to get used to having a bra that fits correctly! ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sarey on February 27, 2012, 02:26:09 PM
Hrmmm I'll have to check that out!

The only bra's I have ever worn that were comfortable are from Lane Bryant! Cacique (or something like that).

Being well endowed it really helps to be fitted properly and just because you were a 34 B in High School don't assume that you still are ten or many more years later.

I prefer to keep them off my belly and thus suffer only occasionally when for whatever reason the underwire's feel uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on February 27, 2012, 07:20:04 PM
A 34 C would be a "dream" size for me! 
If only the men who drool over "the girls" had to carry them around for a while.  ::)  They might change their minds. (They are heavy!)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: dodgetruckmom on February 28, 2012, 06:01:31 AM
Believe it or not, at 5'7" and 145 pounds, Victoria's Secret bras do not fit me. Every time I go in there with my two daughters (that's where they buy their bras), the saleswomen always try to get me to agree to be fitted, even though I tell them I wear a 34DDD and nothing they have will fit me. I usually get the "Well, the 36DD is a sister size to the 34 DDD" but I've tried them and the 36DD's are too big.

I buy Wacoal bras at the local department store. They are not cheap (usually $65 apiece), but I watch the clearance racks like a hawk. One time I found some 34DDD's and got them on clearance with a coupon for $15 each. I like the way they fit and they last a long time.

I also have to have underwires. A day without a well-fitting bra (or without a bra at all) would make me miserable.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cranston on February 28, 2012, 07:00:34 AM
Late to the thread, but I believe the male version is called a "Bro" or a "Manzier" ::)
-And no, I don't. :P
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sister Wolf on February 28, 2012, 10:00:54 AM
Believe it or not, at 5'7" and 145 pounds, Victoria's Secret bras do not fit me. Every time I go in there with my two daughters (that's where they buy their bras), the saleswomen always try to get me to agree to be fitted, even though I tell them I wear a 34DDD and nothing they have will fit me. I usually get the "Well, the 36DD is a sister size to the 34 DDD" but I've tried them and the 36DD's are too big.

Poor thing. I'm a 34DD and VS is the only place out there that I don't have to devote an entire day to "shopping" at that supplies a great quality bra in my size. I <hate> going somewhere with the intention of buying a piece of clothing (particularly a bra), and spending more than 15 minutes trying to find something that is right for me. If I had no other choice, I guess I could hit the department stores weekly and hope for the best, but what a time suck.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: dodgetruckmom on February 29, 2012, 06:12:33 AM
Quote
I guess I could hit the department stores weekly and hope for the best, but what a time suck.

Well, it's not, really, because I know which Wacoal styles fit me well and so I don't even bother to try them on anymore. When I see them on sale, I buy them.

I know it's been said that the Barbie doll shape is anatomically impossible, but I am pretty darn close.  ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sarey on February 29, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
I would love to shop at VS; however I've been fitted multiple times there and not one bra has ever been comfortable for more then half a day.

Once my husband insisted he could help me find something in my size and comfortable and since he is the one who usually picks my clothes when we shop (because I don't really care) I figured what the heck...

After three hours and having tried on well over 60 bra's he was flabbergasted! I was grumpy as all heck and in tears of frustration. He decided a good meal was in order after that and has never gone bra shopping with me again.

I was a mess...
Seriously was not a fun day but at least now I know where to go and I'm sticking to it.

As for going braless - Shortly after getting home that is the first thing to go! It just wouldn't be pretty for a 36 DDD to be flopping the ladies all over the place during the day. Even with a bra doing jumping jacks is a near "knockout" experience.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Red Beard (UKtheBUNNY) on February 29, 2012, 08:16:17 AM
Ok so I've been watching this thread for a bit. This has been a common complaint from my wife for a little while now. I want to take her out to get her a decent bra and hopefully alleviate to soreness, sensitivity and back pain.

So this is what I'm gathering:
Sizing at Victoria's Secret
Success with the as seen on TV Genie bra
Wacoal bras are a good brand

For a clueless husband am I on the right track?
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on February 29, 2012, 08:26:56 AM
All these fitting issues are the reason I'm such a big fan of custom bras. The ones I've got are cheaper than the expensive items you gals are quoting and if it isn't quite right you can send it in for free alterations until it works for you. It's hard for me to see a downside to that.

My order went something like this: first one I got was the wrong size. Got the right size, but realized I needed some adjustments. The strap length needed altering, and the band was uncomfortable so I had them change that too, plus add pockets. What I received back was a bra that suited me perfectly, with very little hassle. And now that they have the measurements they can easily replicate it as many times as I wish to purchase it.

I can't imagine ever returning to department store bras, not for practical purposes at least. ::)

For those who say you must have an underwire due to large cup size, take a glance though this testimonial page (http://www.decentexposures.com/test.shtml) and the corresponding sizes: 34J, 32F, 40H, to name a few that have found sufficient support from these bras without underwires. Apparently the choice of fabric has a lot of influence over the level of support the bra is capable of.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on February 29, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
Dainty, I hafta say, I have looked at your recommendation, and I am prob going to go with that once these ladies stop growing in a few months.  And maybe again when they go back to being small.  cuz I do wear a bra to church.  (hubby likes to watch me get ready for church  ::))
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: archer on February 29, 2012, 09:34:48 AM
dumb male question, what are 'pockets' in a bra?
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Cedar on February 29, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
dumb male question, what are 'pockets' in a bra?

They are for your car keys and mad money

Cedar
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sarey on February 29, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
dumb male question, what are 'pockets' in a bra?

Do you mean the bra's with closures or actual pockets?

The only pocket in my bra is called "cleavage".

But those little flaps are for breast feeding mothers.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 29, 2012, 10:18:01 AM
Ok so I've been watching this thread for a bit. This has been a common complaint from my wife for a little while now. I want to take her out to get her a decent bra and hopefully alleviate to soreness, sensitivity and back pain.

So this is what I'm gathering:
Sizing at Victoria's Secret
Success with the as seen on TV Genie bra
Wacoal bras are a good brand

For a clueless husband am I on the right track?

yes you are on the right track.  You can have sizing done at a lot of different stores.  I have never had any luck with Victoria Secret.  I keep trying but never worked for me.  :(  I think the info that Dainty has provide might be a great place to check out.   Thing is sometimes you just gotta check out a few places.  It can be frustrating exhausting depressing and painful. 

I am very short only 5' on a good day.  So finding things that fit me under my arm and that don't go clear down to my belly button add to the challenge.  Hubby noticed that if there is too much fabric on the side of the waist band under the strap he would just tell the girl that wont work.  It saved a lot of time.  Now think about that how many hours would a man have to put in to be able to look at a bra and know if it will work.  He also sends back any thing with 4 hooks.  What a guy. 

The main support comes from the waist band and cup fabric not the shoulder straps.  Sometimes cookies can help with support.  Cookie is a small piece of padded fabric that is shaped like an eye.  You can slide it into the cup under the breast and it can give a little lift.  It's not used as padding or increasing appearance of size although could be used that way. 

I personally have to have something that is very very soft a smooth because I have fibro and my skin is very sensitive Having shingles 2 times in one year in that area didn't help.   That is the main reason I like the ones from TV.  Anything else feels like I am wearing steel wool with tacks in it.

Shopping tips  patience water to stay hydrated snacks maybe little something to read while she spends so much time in the dressing room maybe a small tape measure.  It's easier to measure on the rack than having to strip down and try on.   To make my trips easier I bought a zippered shirt/jacket  easy on and easy off. 

good luck

Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on February 29, 2012, 10:30:11 AM
dumb male question, what are 'pockets' in a bra?

It's where an additional layer of fabric is sewn inside the cup, creating a pocket inside the bust where a woman can place a prosthesis, fake cleavage, or extra padding. I noted earlier in the thread that with this particular company (http://www.decentexposures.com/index.shtml), purchasing an unlined bra means there is only one layer of fabric across the bustline, whereas some women need/prefer a bit more shielding than that.

Do you mean the bra's with closures or actual pockets?

The only pocket in my bra is called "cleavage".

But those little flaps are for breast feeding mothers.

I'm talking about actual pockets. There are no a "flaps" and the only closures are in the band (though you can get a pullover version as well).
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Ronin4hire on February 29, 2012, 10:50:22 AM
Hmmm I used to wear my Beretta92 in a Miami Classic shoulder rig for 12-16hrs a day...
Wasnt the most comfortable thing and I was glad to be out of it, so I guess I can sympathize?
I fear what sorta discomfort "big guns" cause- specially now that Im carrying a P14  45
Guess I will just keep it on the hip and save the structural stresses involved       :-X
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Sarey on February 29, 2012, 11:20:31 AM
I'll be looking for those bra's with pockets, seems like a handy thing to have.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: inbox485 on February 29, 2012, 06:38:50 PM
I'm pretty anti-bra when it comes to my wife. She just looks 10x better without one. But as bras go, I will second the VS recommendation. It the the only bra line that seems to fit a lot of people right, and the only place that will actually work with you to find the right one. But really, before you ask which bra, be sure to ask if a bra at all. Just sayin...
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Red Beard (UKtheBUNNY) on February 29, 2012, 08:10:50 PM
Thanks Roundabouts. Haha "on a good day" my wife is also about 5' and uses the same verbiage when giving her height. I think I'm going to have her try out the Genie tomorrow. She's about a 36dd so with that in mind how do the sizes run?

Sorry to hear about the fibro and shingles, sounds rough. But you sound like a tough chic. The comments about starting the lawn mower had my wife and I cracking up.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on February 29, 2012, 09:47:18 PM
Thanks Roundabouts. Haha "on a good day" my wife is also about 5' and uses the same verbiage when giving her height. I think I'm going to have her try out the Genie tomorrow. She's about a 36dd so with that in mind how do the sizes run?

Sorry to hear about the fibro and shingles, sounds rough. But you sound like a tough chic. The comments about starting the lawn mower had my wife and I cracking up.

With the Genie you just get your top size sm med lg and so on.  You get 3 one white nude and black  then for additional processing or shipping you get another 3.  So it worked out about $10 each.  I have put them through their paces.  Washed them with jeans towels  hot water hot dryer.  I have stomped them stretced them and they still go back to original shape.  Kind of like the old Timex comercials  ;)  I even had cockleburs down my shirt ( yeah don't ask)  I was afraid they would snag but didn't. 

JC penny's sells one that is similar in style for about $20?  I tried that first to see if I would like the style.  They didn't hold up to my tests and are already worn out. 

Yeah the pull cords on equipment can be a real killer.  I call them rip cords for a reason :o

PS there is another brand on the Tv also Can't remember what it's called. Seems like the same thing. 
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: summer98 on March 01, 2012, 05:22:31 AM
SW: Thanks! I'll go check them out the next time I get to go bra shopping. That means I have to go to the mall, though. Ugh...

I'll look into the custom bras as well, but I just don't see how they would support me without the underwire.

I really wish more men would realize how hard it is to carry around these big boulders some of us have. A while back, a (male) doctor told me I need to lose 10 pounds to be at my idea weight. I looked down at my chest, looked up at him, and said "Can I start by losing some of this?" The poor man blushed.

If you are going to have a bra fitting done, be sure it is done right. The first time I had one done, this young woman did it and she had no idea what she was doing. She took one measurement (they're supposed to take two or three) at the wrong place (I didn't know that then) and told me I was a 30. I wasn't a 30 in high school! She then proceeded to keep going up in cup size until she found one with enough wiggle room to force it to close. Not only could I not breathe, but the girls were falling out the front! She then told me I was a 30 GG.

Needless to say, I didn't go back there, much less buy any of their bras. And no; I'm not a 30 GG. I'm a 34 DD -BIG difference.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 01, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
Maybe that were the saying   

Over the shoulder boulder holder came from. 
Ugh the mall treat your self to something nice after visiting that place you have sympathies. Good Luck

I am guessing that girl did not have boulders that was trying to fit you?

You know I can never understand why women go in to make them bigger and bigger.  I have been told the fake ones don't weight as much. Still I would think that  they get in the way.   oh well some things are not to be understood to each her own. 
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on March 01, 2012, 09:03:15 AM
You know I can never understand why women go in to make them bigger and bigger.  I have been told the fake ones don't weight as much. Still I would think that  they get in the way.   oh well some things are not to be understood to each her own.

I wonder that as well.  Golly, seems like every other billboard in Salt Lake is for enhancements or similar adjustments.  I have thought that if I don't go down to a nice size after I am done with infants, I might go get a reduction done.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 01, 2012, 09:21:30 AM
My SIL went way bigger couldn't under stand that.  I had a cousin that went a tad bigger which I could understand a little kinda sorta.    She had nothing up top and it was really hard to get shirts to fit or swimming suits.  The scaring was crazy.  It looked so painful.  Had another cousin that went down 1/2 the size she was.  She looked great.  I didn't even really notice she just looked like she lost weight.  I asked her and wow you lost a lot of weight how did you do that so fast.  She pointed at her chest fastest 50# I have ever lost!  We cracked up.  Now she has no more back aches no more headaches she sleeps better at night.  she can buy clothes easier.   The best thing insurance paid for the whole thing. 

I often wonder about getting a reduction.  Well I wonder about it every time we (both girls and I)  am laying on my side and the dog jumps up to lay by me.  OUCH GET  OFF MY BOOB!!  :o   
Dang I need to tie them up when I go to bed good thing I didn't throw out my old scrunchies.   ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Red Beard (UKtheBUNNY) on March 02, 2012, 12:46:19 PM
So Roundabouts I bought my wife the Genie yesterday. We went to Walmart so she could try it on first and make sure sizing wouldn't be an issue. So far she loves the bra. She says it is really comfortable. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on March 02, 2012, 01:00:33 PM
heard about this today and wanted to share, since we were just talking about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2108293/The-Jordan-effect-Third-young-women-swap-IQ-larger-breasts.html
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 02, 2012, 01:22:01 PM
So Roundabouts I bought my wife the Genie yesterday. We went to Walmart so she could try it on first and make sure sizing wouldn't be an issue. So far she loves the bra. She says it is really comfortable. Thanks a lot.

Oh so very glad to hear that!  I hope the comfort lasts and lasts. ;D

:egyptian: says whoopie I got new boobies!

 Oh my gosh that is what my grandma use to do when she got a new bra.  Dance and sing.  Us kids thought she was so weird.  Guess it rubbed off!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 02, 2012, 01:57:05 PM
heard about this today and wanted to share, since we were just talking about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2108293/The-Jordan-effect-Third-young-women-swap-IQ-larger-breasts.html


Oh my that is so so very sad.  I see this in my nieces.  They can't boil water but sure know all the beauty tips.    I have heard fathers tell their daughters "oh honey go put on make up you don't look good without it."   :pissed: :crazy:  That speaks for it's self can't say any more than that.

I know first hand that having good looks and big boobs can be a pain in the butt on the job.  When I was younger looking for work oh the interviews. Finally I broke down and asked a guy why he wouldn't hire me.  I wanted the truth and wouldn't hold any thing against him.  His answer my looks I would be distracting to male coworkers and cause problems with female co workers.  Plus I looked way to young.   

Years passed and put up with BS on different jobs.  Then got a dream job.  Well the crap started again.  I was disrespected laughed at talked about then treated like I didn't know squat.  Finally I realized they had hired me for a scape goat.  Someone they could fire without loosing someone on their perfect team.  All the while showing budget cuts to the board.  What a crock.  Well my supervisor opened his mouth one time to often.  So I told him lets take it out side time to put up or shut up.  By the time I got done raking him over the coals his mouth was down to his knees and he felt like an complete ass.  Come to find out they all thought I was just some dumb kid of 18-20 with no real experience.  After all they were college grads.  No I was 35 and had 15 yrs experience.  It was a whole new ball game after that.  Ended up with regular promotions.  When the big boss transferred states he offered me a job if I wanted to follow.

For some reason many people think if you look good or look young you must be stupid.  I hate being treated that way.  Why any one would opt for bigger boobs or something to just get a man is crazy.  Why would you want a man that was looking for a mother to nurse any way?
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on March 02, 2012, 04:52:21 PM
And don't you just "love it" when men talk to your chest?  >:(

(Duh! Hey, fella, my "girls" can't speak. Or even hear what you are saying!)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 02, 2012, 04:56:24 PM
I know I know.  Hey the eyes are up here.  Not like we go around talking to their crotches of course they would like that  ;)   hey baby speak into my microphone
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on March 02, 2012, 05:04:11 PM
I know I know.  Hey the eyes are up here.  Not like we go around talking to their crotches of course they would like that  ;)   hey baby speak into my microphone

 :clap:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 02, 2012, 06:18:56 PM
(http://snl.jt.org/caps/episode_sketches/1991-10-12-8.jpg)

Can't find a larger image or a video clip, but some of you might remember this SNL skit in which women of the future, after centuries of having men talk to their breasts, had finally evolved eyes there.

That would complicate bra design.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on March 03, 2012, 06:08:21 AM
(http://snl.jt.org/caps/episode_sketches/1991-10-12-8.jpg)

Can't find a larger image or a video clip, but some of you might remember this SNL skit in which women of the future, after centuries of having men talk to their breasts, had finally evolved eyes there.

That would complicate bra design.
Problem with that is as you age, your field of vision gets lower and lower!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on March 03, 2012, 09:18:13 AM
Tell me about it!  I would be able to see my knees by now.  ::)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 03, 2012, 10:48:19 AM
but hey on the bright side you would never step in a pile of poo again and it would be so easy to see when your shoe laces were untied and how easy would it be to see to shave your legs (if you do that sorta thing.)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on March 03, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
 :excited:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on March 03, 2012, 11:06:30 AM
hard to brush your hair though!  ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 03, 2012, 11:08:46 AM
True but who is look at your head? :D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Mr. Bill on March 03, 2012, 11:25:49 AM
I'm glad I was able to help keep this thread on-topic.

My work here is done. 8)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on March 03, 2012, 12:10:39 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: TexDaddy on March 04, 2012, 09:04:53 PM
This thread beats the marriage advice one any day.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: bartsdad on March 04, 2012, 09:07:47 PM
:worthless:

Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: TexDaddy on March 04, 2012, 09:15:02 PM
Thanks for your help there BD.

That quote may not be verbatim, but...
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: bartsdad on March 04, 2012, 09:17:32 PM
I just clicked the quote button.

Seems like a software glitch to me. ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: AussieNana on March 26, 2012, 08:14:37 PM
One of the issues that has occurred over the years has been the increase in bust size as a result of our environment and what we eat. Back in the 1940s the average bust was a 34B, now it is more like a 36DD. Our breasts have been getting larger and many men have developed man boobs.

Perhaps our question to ask is: how can we reduce our oestrogen intake that causes the increased breasts in the first place? I'm sure there is lots online. Its time to stop pretending its due to genes and recognise that what we eat and ingest makes a difference and to stop eating oestrogenic foods and breathing stuff which contributes to our oestrogen production.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flagtag on March 26, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
You are right. We need to get away from the chemicals in processed foods. We need to get back to growing our own food - without pesticides/chemicals. That includes finding meats/milk that haven't been "contaminated" by drugs/chemicals.

Get back to the earth!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on March 27, 2012, 05:54:06 AM
side note.  My 5-yo daughter came in while I was getting dressed the other day and saw my much enlarged chest, ya know those dang pregnancy changes.
"Mommy, those are BIG nursers!"  I cracked up.  hubby cracked up.  after a few seconds, she started laughing too, but in a "I guess this is funny, but I don't get it" kind of way.  We had to explain to her, that while we thought it was funny, it is not something she should be commenting on in general.  And, I love that she thinks that is what they are for - nursing babies.

so now we (hubby and I) call my bosoms "nursers"
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on March 27, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
side note.  My 5-yo daughter came in while I was getting dressed the other day and saw my much enlarged chest, ya know those dang pregnancy changes.
"Mommy, those are BIG nursers!"  I cracked up.  hubby cracked up.  after a few seconds, she started laughing too, but in a "I guess this is funny, but I don't get it" kind of way.  We had to explain to her, that while we thought it was funny, it is not something she should be commenting on in general.  And, I love that she thinks that is what they are for - nursing babies.

so now we (hubby and I) call my bosoms "nursers"


 :clap: NURSERS PERFECT !!  LOVE IT.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: bentwanderer on April 27, 2012, 04:22:18 PM
PS - I love heels and panty hose. Feeling sexy is an important part of being a woman. If we didn't like them at all, we wouldn't buy them and wear them.

<--- Looks hot in a skirt and heels and thinks panty hose are the warmest things ever under my snow bib. :)


This may be one of those;"damn son i don't believe id'a told that; comments but pantyhose work great if you hunt in So. California, where when you get on stand in the AM, you have to break the icicles, but want to be in shorts and tank top by noon.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: charles on May 24, 2012, 12:12:09 PM
Maybe I'm brainwashed, but I just can't go out without one on. It would be like not wearing pants. That said, I never wear one around the house or yard. Of course, if someone pulls into the drive I'll sprint in to the house to get one on before they get to the house! I like the sport bras but my DH complains that it makes me look like I have a tumor on my chest. Can't stand underwires...too many stab wounds over the years from them poking out of the material.

I dont like pants......  ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on December 23, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
okay, so to resurrect this thread.  earlier, I mentioned my SIL and her downright concern about my bra-less-ness.  http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=33603.msg375895#msg375895  She is convinced that not wearing a bra is tantamount to wearing a bikini to church, in terms of modesty.  In other words, by not wearing a bra I am being extremely immodest in my dress.  This is bothering me, because I like to dress modestly; I feel it is an important symbol to the world of who I am, and I do not like the idea of appearing immodest.  but I hate the idea of wearing a bra.  I wear t-shirts that cover my top; no one can claim to see my underwear either around my neck line or waist; my pants and skirts are long.
Why is wearing a bra, or the lack of one, so disturbing to her?
so, ladies, is it a modesty thing?  or just her own neurosis?  guys, do you get turned on by a random lady on the street that is obviously not wearing a bra?

help me out here.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on December 23, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
Here's my husband's opinion-if the woman is good looking and doesn't wear a bra she's doing it because she knows they look good and is showing them off. Any other woman not wearing a bra comes across as slobbish and too lazy to make an effort to look presentable.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: lettuceman on December 24, 2012, 07:37:33 AM
It sounds like SIL is expecting other women to live to her standard.  You do what you think is right for you and live your own life. 

Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on December 24, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
Can people tell you aren't wearing a bra just by looking at you?

IMO, if they can, then it is immodest. But if they can't, then it's no different than if you were wearing one.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on December 24, 2012, 10:34:33 AM
I'll admit it's a bias, but it is so ingrained in our culture that its a fact. A woman with moderate to large breasts without a bra gives a negative first, second, and third impression, especially in public. If they are small, no one knows the difference.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: monkeyboyf on December 24, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
Don't worry about the SIL and her criticism.  Dress how you are comfortable as long as your husband is in agreement.  If he thought you were immodest he would tell you, I'm sure.  You are a good woman and wonderful mother. If SIL does not approve, perhaps she is jealous. ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: RitaRose1945 on December 25, 2012, 01:23:07 PM
I think the problem she may have is if you can see the nips through a shirt (especially when it's cold outside...) or maybe it's that you're not as... elevated and perky... as you are with a bra.  The first problem, I kind of get, but the second one is  silly.  It's your body, you can have it look however you want.  The altitude of my boobs is no reflection on anything in my life but my age.

Either way, it's ultimately your call how you live your life.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Stacy on December 26, 2012, 06:35:55 AM
I refuse to wear bras with wire in them and do not understand why women wear wire
pressing and digging into them.

It always starts to dig in, so I always remove them.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Roundabouts on December 29, 2012, 06:07:19 AM
okay, so to resurrect this thread.  earlier, I mentioned my SIL and her downright concern about my bra-less-ness.  http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=33603.msg375895#msg375895  She is convinced that not wearing a bra is tantamount to wearing a bikini to church, in terms of modesty.  In other words, by not wearing a bra I am being extremely immodest in my dress.  This is bothering me, because I like to dress modestly; I feel it is an important symbol to the world of who I am, and I do not like the idea of appearing immodest.  but I hate the idea of wearing a bra.  I wear t-shirts that cover my top; no one can claim to see my underwear either around my neck line or waist; my pants and skirts are long.
Why is wearing a bra, or the lack of one, so disturbing to her?
so, ladies, is it a modesty thing?  or just her own neurosis?  guys, do you get turned on by a random lady on the street that is obviously not wearing a bra?

help me out here.

I am going to be blunt here.  Not meant to offend….  WTH.  Why is it SIL business any way?  You want to wear a bikini to church wear one.  ( not to get into a big debate but seems to me that if God made us and he is good to honor him and his wisdom church would not be a fashion show.  Church would be the one place you go naked)    You want to go without a bra do it.  Does not matter @ all what others say.  Exception to the rule.  If on the job and you want to keep your job part of that is an agreement you made to play the game by their rules.  If they say wear it you wear it.  When SIL starts in ask her  why she is out and about with an exposed face.  Some cultures say show your face you are wrong show your hair you are wrong.  Here it use to be you could dang near show your boobs but don't ever ever show an ankle.  I have had lectures from MIL and all I can say in response is who the hell died and made you boob police & why are you so concerned about my chest?  My eyes are up here.  Funny if a child stares at someone in a wheel chair or @ someone who has a scar on their face we tell them it's not polite.  We feel almost embarrassed  and think it rude to stare.  But take off a bra and some how all of a sudden it is acceptable to stare comment or judge.  That's a bunch of bull. 

Women will pay big bucks and go through huge amounts of pain to have their breasts lifted made bigger and so on.  ( I am not talking about those that do things for medical reasons)  All because this culture says that breasts should always look like they did when you were a child! ?  Got news for the world body parts sag with age.  My "saggy" breasts are badges of honor.  I nourished and fed my babies.  I have live a life.  I have made contributions to my community.  My hair is getting gray my skin is showing signs of wisdom (ok maybe stress)  but the point is  why should I feel so badly about all of that that I conform to the rest and paint make up on wear the latest styles worry about "bad hair days" and worry about what kind of underwear I have on just to make OTHERS happy?   

Nope sorry if you don't like the way I look don't look.  If you don't want to be my friend because of the way I look well good.  I don't want friends like that any way.  If you want to sit and judge me about all that fine go ahead you have that right.  But if you think you can tell me what  to do?  Well then bite me! 

Another news flash we all have nipples.  Yup men and women.  Why it is ok for men to walk around shirtless and not women?  Just because we have more tissue under that said nipple.  UM  this is America and I do see men walking around that have tissue under their nipple.  A lot of them.  Oh we can't because well that might turn men on? Oh give me a break.  Maybe it's ok for men or women to be turned on and like what they see.  It's NOT ok to act on that!.  Maybe what people assume is being turned on is nothing more than admiring something of beauty?  Maybe this culture needs an overhaul in that department.  I know when I see a beautiful flower or a cute puppy I smile.  When I see a beautiful man I smile and when I see a beautiful woman or child I smile.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I do smile a lot.  ;) 

No I say you need not bow down to your SIL.  You live your life the way YOU want to.  You wear what you want how you want because it's what YOU feel good about.  If that means you want to wear a bra wear it with pride if you want to color your hair purple and wear underwear over your skirt go for it.  Teach your girls that they can be who they want and they can be independent thinkers strong individual women who need not follow the crowd just because the crowd is there. 
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on December 29, 2012, 10:31:06 AM
I'm scratching my head a bit over the assumptions that the problem is MS catering to her SIL's wishes.

The way I understand it, MS posted that she likes to dress modestly as a symbol of her identity, and thus the possibility that she may be appearing immodest to people in general (not just her SIL) is deeply unsettling to her on a personal level. We were asked some specific questions so that hopefully MS can gather the info she's looking for to make her own decision, which from what I can see was her intention from the beginning. :)

MS if I've got anything wrong there, feel free to correct me...
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on December 29, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
LOL Dainty, you are correct.  :)

I have not worn a bra on a daily basis except my high school years, and even then, it was off 3 seconds after I walked in the door.  I have gotten flack for it since jr high - the beginning of "the need", but I didn't care what folks think about my bralessness.  (well, I didn't get flack for it at my women's college - in fact I held the record for being able to remove it the fastest without removing other clothes).  But on the other hand, I do not want to appear immodest to folks.

Long term, I am planning to go back to wearing overalls all the time, but cannot until I am done nursing.  so until then, I need to make a decision on this.

mostly, I am interested in what folks here think.  You guys do not know me face to face, so telling me truths are easier than trying to spare my feelings.  You are not monothinking when it comes to dress and grooming (as evidenced by other posts on this thread), so I expected different opinions.

I like discussion though  :)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on January 15, 2013, 11:10:28 AM
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is if the concern is show-through rather than support, there are options (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapparel&field-keywords=nipple+cover) that can provide minimal coverage without the constriction of a bra.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: DrJohn on January 15, 2013, 11:40:45 AM
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is if the concern is show-through rather than support, there are options (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapparel&field-keywords=nipple+cover) that can provide minimal coverage without the constriction of a bra.

Wow, good to know - Learn something everyday!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: rikkrack on January 15, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
I am going to be blunt here.  Not meant to offend….  WTH.  Why is it SIL business any way?  You want to wear a bikini to church wear one.  ( not to get into a big debate but seems to me that if God made us and he is good to honor him and his wisdom church would not be a fashion show.  Church would be the one place you go naked)    You want to go without a bra do it.  Does not matter @ all what others say.  Exception to the rule.  If on the job and you want to keep your job part of that is an agreement you made to play the game by their rules.  If they say wear it you wear it.  When SIL starts in ask her  why she is out and about with an exposed face.  Some cultures say show your face you are wrong show your hair you are wrong.  Here it use to be you could dang near show your boobs but don't ever ever show an ankle.  I have had lectures from MIL and all I can say in response is who the hell died and made you boob police & why are you so concerned about my chest?  My eyes are up here.  Funny if a child stares at someone in a wheel chair or @ someone who has a scar on their face we tell them it's not polite.  We feel almost embarrassed  and think it rude to stare.  But take off a bra and some how all of a sudden it is acceptable to stare comment or judge.  That's a bunch of bull. 

Women will pay big bucks and go through huge amounts of pain to have their breasts lifted made bigger and so on.  ( I am not talking about those that do things for medical reasons)  All because this culture says that breasts should always look like they did when you were a child! ?  Got news for the world body parts sag with age.  My "saggy" breasts are badges of honor.  I nourished and fed my babies.  I have live a life.  I have made contributions to my community.  My hair is getting gray my skin is showing signs of wisdom (ok maybe stress)  but the point is  why should I feel so badly about all of that that I conform to the rest and paint make up on wear the latest styles worry about "bad hair days" and worry about what kind of underwear I have on just to make OTHERS happy?   

Nope sorry if you don't like the way I look don't look.  If you don't want to be my friend because of the way I look well good.  I don't want friends like that any way.  If you want to sit and judge me about all that fine go ahead you have that right.  But if you think you can tell me what  to do?  Well then bite me! 

Another news flash we all have nipples.  Yup men and women.  Why it is ok for men to walk around shirtless and not women?  Just because we have more tissue under that said nipple.  UM  this is America and I do see men walking around that have tissue under their nipple.  A lot of them.  Oh we can't because well that might turn men on? Oh give me a break.  Maybe it's ok for men or women to be turned on and like what they see.  It's NOT ok to act on that!.  Maybe what people assume is being turned on is nothing more than admiring something of beauty?  Maybe this culture needs an overhaul in that department.  I know when I see a beautiful flower or a cute puppy I smile.  When I see a beautiful man I smile and when I see a beautiful woman or child I smile.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I do smile a lot.  ;) 

No I say you need not bow down to your SIL.  You live your life the way YOU want to.  You wear what you want how you want because it's what YOU feel good about.  If that means you want to wear a bra wear it with pride if you want to color your hair purple and wear underwear over your skirt go for it.  Teach your girls that they can be who they want and they can be independent thinkers strong individual women who need not follow the crowd just because the crowd is there.

^^^^Pretty much this ^^^^ +1 (more if I could)

From a guy's perspective. I don't care one way or another. Women don't tell men they need to wear boxers, briefs or commando. Maybe for sperm count but hey, there is medical reason. I can get that.

Your body, you do what you want. And to HE11 with people who want to tell you what to wear, how to wear it. What next, you should eat this or that, should do hair a certain way, or not wear makeup (if you do). Do what you want.

My wife wears one at work, takes it off the moment she is in the door. She likes the "pretty clothes", heals etc. She works in a more professional area.

 At home, no bra around the house, in the yard and either because of the IDGAS attitude that has come lately with age or just waking up and don't care what others think. She will often not wear one when we go out either. Granted usually to store, or hardware store etc. We don't go out to eat.

Daughter is 10 and well, starting to develop, and we have asked she wear one mainly because, well, she pokes out and like to wear t-shirts. So we tell her either wear a sweat shirt or put a bra on but only if we are going out of house. Kids can be mean so we try to spare her that.

In the end, no one should care what you are or are not wearing. They are not you.

Just my 2 cents

PS I did like the comment about going to church nude. Came in this way so why not? Clothes are not necessary to worship. Maybe I go out that way too when it is time. just a thought.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Dainty on January 15, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
Wow, good to know - Learn something everyday!

And yet, women manage to maintain their mystery...
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: ncjeeper on January 15, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
Wear or dont wear whatever is comfortable to you. Its your confidence with your body that makes you modest. Not the amount of clothes or lack there of.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: flippydidit on January 16, 2013, 02:30:27 AM
This is perhaps my new favoritist thread on all of TSP!  How did I miss this one?!?  Corsets, bra's, "heavy loads"!  The guys in the firearms topics may never hear from me again!

I'll weigh in here since I am a husband, father and generally huge fan of boobs.  My wife has one of the best outlooks on the topic.  They're there, and she'll wear a bra if it suits her.  If it's a day when a bra is required, she wears it.  If not, then no bra.  What is my opinion?  Doesn't really matter, does it?  I don't have those twins to wrestle with every day.  That's how I think with any woman who decides to wear or not wear a bra.  It's her body, she knows it better than all of my "studies".

That said, I don't think it's immodest for a woman to go around without a bra.  Even if you can see her nipples.  So what?  Would it turn me on?  Maybe.  Depends on her "build".  What's wrong with being turned on?  It makes me feel good.  It makes me want to hold my wife a little tighter and puts a smile on my face.  I'm not going to rush out and try to molest someone, and it's not going to instill an irrational anger in me that she's "just doing it for attention".  Maybe she is.  Who cares.

My wife, who is 4'11" and about 95 lbs. is a 32B (?, think that's how it's measured).  She's not the biological mother of my first two children.  The oldest of her step-children is my 13 year old daughter.  Having different genetics my daughter was "blossoming" sooner than my wife did.  I was informed by my wife that the two of them were going bra shopping.  To which I promptly covered my ears and yelled, "LA-LA-LA-LA" "Can't hear you!!"   :stop:

Upon their return she stated that my daughter was a 35CC or something.  Boils down to my daughter has bigger twins than my wife.  And that she will apparently get bigger.  So my point is this.  As long as my wife and daughter are comfortable with what they wear and how they feel about themselves, I'm happy.  In the meantime, I'm busy with my tractor.....digging holes for all the potential boyfriends my daughter brings home.

They say when you have a boy, you need to watch your boy.

And that when you have a daughter, you need to watch ALL the boys.

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: PorcupineKate on January 16, 2013, 08:53:17 AM
I also lucky enough to be a weird bra size.  Most women in the US are wearing bras with too small a cup size and too large a band.  This gives terrible support and makes bras really uncomfortable. 

Take the example of the DD who wears a 35CC.  Most stores would have her wear a 36D because they don't carry 35 anything.   The 36 strap will most likely ride up her back, not give her good support, and encourage her to slouch.  A 34 C will have under wires digging into her sides and squish her boobs.   Finding a bra that fits comfortably and gives her enough support to run around and do stuff will be a challenge. 

 The best places I have found to figure out your correct bra size is at a local mom and pop lingerie store.  They will not try and put you into the closest standard bra size.  Victoria Secrets, most department stores, and Fredrick's of Hollywood still only carry a certain range of sizes.  All of these companies have gotten much better in the last 10 years in terms of size availability but many women are still wearing the wrong size bras because store clerks put people in the closest size they have in stock.  This causes a lot of women to wear uncomfortable bras and not get good support at the same time.   

These local shops often sell bathing suits too.  They have strapless bras in hard to find sizes too.  I have taken many a friend to get a proper fitting bra for a wedding dress.  Not only do we find something that works for the dress but it often costs less than the crap bras they try and sell you at the bridal shop. 

Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: busymomx3 on January 20, 2013, 12:03:59 AM
I'm super glad I read through most of this thread.  No not all sorry :(.  But I have learned bunches.  I might try this Genie? bra and see how it is.  I dislike underwire but since I am a bigger girl I need more support.  I dislike being unsupported as it's uncomfortable.  Glad there are ladies here to talk about all the different things we ladies care about :).
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: ThreadCookie on September 13, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
In going to make my first post on the tsp forums in this thread which is entirely typically for me as you'll see:

I'm a fairly experienced seamstress. I have a certain eye for fit and silhouette and quite a few years of experience. I have a relatively big difference between band and cup size and the last bra I bought I paid $104 for! This is unacceptable considering my particular skill set but I was in a pinch so to speak. I've been trying to successfully sew a well-fitting bra ever since and it is very difficult. I can whip up a Victorian corset no problem but modern expectations for silhouette confound me! I don't understand how ordinary women are supposed to win this particular fashionable battle  :-\
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Morning Sunshine on September 14, 2013, 05:37:03 AM
welcome to the forum, threadcookie.  sewing is my nemisis, and I can stitch something together if I have to, but it doesn't look good.  I blame my mom.  :)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: ThreadCookie on September 14, 2013, 02:09:01 PM
Thanks Morning Sunshine! Just be glad that you are immune to the scourge that is fabricaholism. It's a problem I know. And this whole bra-making thing has only made it worse with all the specialized elastics and mesh I've now acquired....
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: RitaRose1945 on September 14, 2013, 03:10:31 PM
...and I can stitch something together if I have to, but it doesn't look good.

I love sewing, but this it totally me too.

Unfortunately, I can't blame genes.  When I got married to The Ex, my mom not only sewed my incredible gown, but also the dresses for both of my grandmas, both candle lighters, 2 out of the 3 bridesmaids, and her own dress.

I never said sanity ran in my family, though.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: TheBippy on October 01, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
I know this is an older thread but I juts have to chime in- I picked up a bunch of Platex 18 hour bras because they were on an amazing clearance (they were a moderately ugly color that was being discontinued, but I was able to score them for between $3 and $6 dollars), and after wearing them all summer, this is the FIRST summer I haven't ended up with a horribly painful heat rash or second degree burn on the front of my ribs from the girls.

Any time a guy, in the summer, makes some comment about wishing they had boobs/ how awesome boobs are I have to resist the urge to beat them. I'm in DD-DDD land and the heat build up on the bottom of those things, especially if I'm outside having to do physical work, is enough to freaking cook my skin, and burns HURT.

I never thought a bra without an underwire would be strong enough to deal with the boulders, but they do an amazing job.

The only other bras I would reccomend are the Cacique bras from Lane Bryant. If you're way too small to fit the Lane Bryant clothes but are busty, it's worth stopping in and trying them out- they're the only place I've consistantly found good looking bras that feel good and are cute at the DDD level, and my ex roommate was a size 6 and miserable till I took her there to get bras- I think the band size is as low as 32 and they go up to J or JJ, if I remember correctly.

I'm still shocked at the Platex bras- I always thought of them as granny bras and they aren't good for showing off, they don't do a lot of cleavage, and to be frank they're kind of ugly, so I never bothered with them before. But I am SO DAMN HAPPY that I didn't cook my own ribcage this year, I am probably going to go buy a lot more. I also just close them up and toss them in the wash- no underwires, so they're a lot easier to take care of.

If I didn't spot that clearance I would have never given them a try, and they've made my life so much nicer, even if my boobs are not quite the decorative item in them, and I have to switch bras for my lower cut shirts and dresses.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Eagles mom on January 25, 2014, 09:26:26 AM
My grandmother, who died twenty years ago at the age of 101 told me that when she was young it was considered sexy to wear a bra, and then it became sexy to not wear a bra. Go with whatever is comfortable.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: nelson96 on January 25, 2014, 02:47:16 PM
That said, I don't think it's immodest for a woman to go around without a bra.  Even if you can see her nipples.  So what?  Would it turn me on?  Maybe.  Depends on her "build".  What's wrong with being turned on?  It makes me feel good.  It makes me want to hold my wife a little tighter and puts a smile on my face.  I'm not going to rush out and try to molest someone, and it's not going to instill an irrational anger in me that she's "just doing it for attention".  Maybe she is.  Who cares.
 

This is hilarious.  It doesn't bother me when women don't wear bra's, especially if their nipples show and no matter the size of the woman.  I'm guessing that's why many women wear a bra.  I don't mind looking and I never touch. . .  Just being honest.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: bdhutier on January 26, 2014, 01:09:47 AM
And no.. they did not do large scale production on bras until the 1930's. They had corsets before that and bodices before that. I love my medieval garb as pretty much you wear your 'bra' on the outside and very comfy.

Whoever convinced women the corset should not be a staple of feminine fashion should be shot...   >:(

I dont like pants......  ;D

I can't stand women in pants... Nothing (to me) screams not-feminine than that... yuk!

I can whip up a Victorian corset no problem ...

Seriously!?!?!?  Do you do custom work?   :excited:
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: cheryl1 on January 26, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
I might be interested in some custom work as well :)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Bonnieblue2A on January 26, 2014, 06:24:57 PM
Whoever convinced women the corset should not be a staple of feminine fashion should be shot...   >:(

Yeah, breathing is over-rated. Whatever happened to mis-shapen rib cages, and organ displacement being all the rage?    ::)

Sorry, while some fashions may be attractive to men the misogyny behind them and those who endorse the physical torture of women so men can get their eye-candy just makes me ill.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: bdhutier on January 27, 2014, 12:34:24 AM
Yeah, breathing is over-rated. Whatever happened to mis-shapen rib cages, and organ displacement being all the rage?    ::)

BAH!!  I may or may not know of a wife who wears one fairly often, and she breathes just fine!  As for mis-shapen ribs and displaced organs, they were never the "Rage."  Organ displacement can occur in what's known as, "tight-lacing," but will never be found in cases of typical run-of-the-mill wear.  Reshaping of the ribcage would require years of constant, extreme tight-lacing (which is generally a part of a much larger psychological drive than simply "looking good for men").  Again, not what 99% of wearers do, back then or now.

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Sorry, while some fashions may be attractive to men the misogyny behind them and those who endorse the physical torture of women so men can get their eye-candy just makes me ill.

I guess I don't understand the evil in wanting to appear attractive to the opposite sex... We all have what we view as comfortable, and have our limits to how far we will breach that comfort for the sake of appearance and appeal for that special someone.  I've had similar discussions in the past, and found that the majority of those who oppose corsetry have never experienced it, and don't understand it.  They've only heard over and over how terrible and degrading it is from the radical feminists, and really have nothing else to base their opinions on.  Not saying this is you, just my experiences in the past.

Anyway, back to the bras!!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: RitaRose1945 on January 31, 2014, 07:49:28 AM
I guess I don't understand the evil in wanting to appear attractive to the opposite sex... We all have what we view as comfortable, and have our limits to how far we will breach that comfort for the sake of appearance and appeal for that special someone.

I agree, and for me that point is when it starts to limit my activities in any way.  So I always wear makeup (even when I was working a very dirty job and hardly anyone saw me) because it doesn't limit me in any way.  A bra actually makes things easier for me (even though I'm far from "buxom") and I will only wear things like Spanx or a girdle when absolutely necessary to wear the clothes for the occasion because they do limit me somewhat.

My #1 priority is "function", and when that goes down, I unfortunately have to ditch "form".  But I do see the value in both.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: carolm on March 16, 2014, 10:26:55 PM
For me, I stay out of them as long as possible.  If I can go a week or 2 and never wear one,I'm happy.  I have breast canver in my family, so I try to stay away from bras and aluminum deodorant as much as possible.  I make my own deo..  Its easy.  I did have a professional fitting once.  I barely fit into a c cup, there is a lot of room left over as I'm not very busty.  The lady fitting me said I should be in a D cup. I tried one on, giving her the benefit of the doubt.  My SIL and I were rolling laughing when I did, a whole roll of TP coulda fit in there with me.    Needless to say, from then on iI try them before I buy them and go with what's comfortable.  When I am comfy,  hubby says   I glow and we both like that:-). My advice?  Try on several different types/styles/sizes, and go with what works for you.  Some bras look better in certain clothes than others, don't be afraid to take that special dress with you  to try  on bras for the perfect look. Everyone is different and has different likes.  Dare to be you.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Here Again on April 17, 2014, 05:58:02 PM
Thank you!  It was because of this thread that I gave the Genie Bra a try.  I am currently going their radiation for breast cancer and I can wear this bra!!  My "regular" bras actually hurt at this point.  I am a "well endowed" woman, and usually like an under wire.  I love the idea of sports bras, but um....the "girls no fit!"  The modesty pad in the Genie bra is a God send......it's a big part of the reason this bra is working.  Comfy enough that I don't even feel like it's on!!!
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: AvenueQ on August 21, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
Um, so I have to jump on the Victoria's Secret bandwagon. The prices and overall atmosphere of the store were always so...off-putting to me. But after going there I may just never bother with anywhere else again. The employees are incredibly helpful and not pushy at all. Yes, they're expensive, but I have a properly-fitting bra for the first time in, well, ever. They did feel a bit tight at first, but I think that was more just me being used to the looser sizes I had been wearing for so long. I have a hard time finding the right band size now as I went down a size and the only ones that most stores seem to carry in my size are directed at teens. While the prices on those are great, I'm not a fan of neon polka dots, nor the stupid "crossover" style that seems so popular lately (the little hook in the back drastically reduces the amount of strap adjustment, which sucks when you have narrow shoulders).

The irony here is, it was at the behest of the BF that I should get some different sized bras. He was the one that noticed my old bras looked off...though he probably spends more time looking at them than I do ;)
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Crazy Fox on August 22, 2014, 10:47:17 AM
The irony here is, it was at the behest of the BF that I should get some different sized bras. He was the one that noticed my old bras looked off...though he probably spends more time looking at them than I do ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Carl on August 23, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
I just don't know why I am here at the end of this thread...I just could not look away    :o
But I am sure that a double dust mask or 550 survival bra ,would be a great item...  :knitting:

If McGyver had one available ,his shows would only last 15 minutes and Gilligan would have made it off the
island 'cause the professor would have had material to patch the SS Minnow and  the whole
world as we know it would be different...the possibilities just won't stop.....

This thread deserves a video...OH ,I have one...

OK ,look it up,YOU TUBE,  Rodney Carrington "Show Them to Me"
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Caomac on September 16, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Ok... So I admit I'm a male, but I have to say two things. First is I'm fast now. Like I've gained 60 or so lbs since our youngest was born. Breasts are best appreciated; whatever their size.
Title: Re: Men don't wear bras
Post by: Carl on September 17, 2017, 04:34:02 AM
  Karma for being male when you could change that in this day and age.


And I saw it on SEINFELD...Men wear BRO'S,not Bras.