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Title: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: OutWestTX on September 11, 2013, 10:37:04 AM
I know that people often mention menstrual items as an overlooked prep, but I have another... "sports bras"!  As a country gal, I can tell you that your normal bra does not cut it when you are chopping wood or putting up hay.  I think sturdy footwear is another one.  Most women I know do not own a good pair of work boots. 

Are there any others I'm missing? 
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Morning Sunshine on September 11, 2013, 12:48:58 PM
check out the thread about bras: http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=33603.0  there are some good thoughts there about bra types and brands etc.  plus just some good fun :)
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on September 11, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
That's the good thing of having a prepper for a husband, if I don't have my mooncup with me he Always Carry's tampongs (tinder) and/or a sanitary napkin (for wounds, I'm not shore that's the correct Word though.)

an other thing if you have long hair theres good to have a shawl (maby correct Word) around your hair, it keeps it there, it don't have to smell like poo in the evening and it protects from Mosquito.

pain meds for the red Days are of course a must have too and well when I go in to the forrest I Always Carry's soap and some kind of paper.
 
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: OutWestTX on September 12, 2013, 09:32:53 AM
Okay, I'm always a day late and a dollar short! :-[
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: soupbone on September 12, 2013, 03:29:59 PM
OK, not a Lady, but: Varginna, if by pain meds for the red days, you mean something like 'Midol' or 'Pampirin', let me assure you they also work for tension headaches [which can be debilitating]. Like your husband, I, too, believe in multitasking.

soupbone

PS: I see you are from the north of Sweden - don't worry about "The Right Word"; we'll figure it out. Your input from the Swedish  perspective are most appreciated. --s.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: TheBippy on October 01, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
Raspberry plants- they don't grow well in my area, but rasperry leaf tea is really, really useful for women.

A copy of Ina May's book, or any other book about non-medical childbirth or midwifery- because in a long term down situation, babies are still going to get born.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 02, 2013, 12:30:09 AM
Raspberry plants- they don't grow well in my area, but rasperry leaf tea is really, really useful for women.

A copy of Ina May's book, or any other book about non-medical childbirth or midwifery- because in a long term down situation, babies are still going to get born.
Do you know how raspberry leaf tea helps? I know that it has something to do with childbirth but not anything more (I like to have one or to good sources Before I use herbal medicine).
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Cedar on October 02, 2013, 07:09:32 AM
Do you know how raspberry leaf tea helps? I know that it has something to do with childbirth but not anything more (I like to have one or to good sources Before I use herbal medicine).

It tones the uterus, and strengthens the uterus and pelvic muscles. In labor it can shorten the time. If you have cramps, it will relieve them.

Cedar
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: TheBippy on October 03, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
Rasperry leaf tea is a real life saver. It's stopped me from killing my PMS-ing 13 year old daughter. :D Okay, maybe I was PMSing too.

It seems to be the only thing other than really high levels of ibuprofen that even slows down my cramps, when they get bad.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: AvenueQ on October 03, 2013, 01:24:08 PM
Keep an extra month's supply of birth control, if you use it. You'll probably have to get it directly from the prescribing clinic as pharmacies will usually only give you one refill every 28 days.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 03, 2013, 11:38:23 PM
Keep an extra month's supply of birth control, if you use it. You'll probably have to get it directly from the prescribing clinic as pharmacies will usually only give you one refill every 28 days.
oh when I was on the stuff you Always get out 3 mounts not one (and a prescription for a year so I actually could have a year Worth of birthcontrol pills at home, but now I don't use them)

cedar: thanks

TheBippy: oh I Always use Lady's Mantle against PMS (and you can use it for menopausal problems, against wrinkles, to wash small Cuts especially if they don't want to Close etc etc) but then I normally just use it for the mood part of PMS I can't be 100% that it works for the pain.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Cedar on October 03, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
You know.. one of the things I would really want to have as a prep is a good quality hand/face lotion. Working outside all the time, washing my hands in the sink all the time,  working on whatever project I am doing in the sink which requires water, clay mud sucking the moisture out of my hands, sun/wind exposure to the face. It prevents cracking, chapping, makes you feel human again at the end of the day.

Cedar - who should buy stock in a certain brand she likes

Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 03, 2013, 11:57:40 PM
You know.. one of the things I would really want to have as a prep is a good quality hand/face lotion. Working outside all the time, washing my hands in the sink all the time,  working on whatever project I am doing in the sink which requires water, clay mud sucking the moisture out of my hands, sun/wind exposure to the face. It prevents cracking, chapping, makes you feel human again at the end of the day.

Cedar - who should buy stock in a certain brand she likes
that's why me and my husband learned to make our own last weekend (and scampoo and soap)  :)
We believe that to be a really important prep since we both have problem with eczema (?) and I made my lotion/ointment so that it helps when I get White fingers from Reynauds (of witch with doctors can't help)

we have also learned to make resin ointment witch is unbelievable effective on small Cuts and so.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: AvenueQ on October 04, 2013, 05:17:39 AM
You know.. one of the things I would really want to have as a prep is a good quality hand/face lotion. Working outside all the time, washing my hands in the sink all the time,  working on whatever project I am doing in the sink which requires water, clay mud sucking the moisture out of my hands, sun/wind exposure to the face. It prevents cracking, chapping, makes you feel human again at the end of the day.

Cedar - who should buy stock in a certain brand she likes
I use this on my hands:
http://www.thebodyshop-usa.com/bath-body-care/hands-feet/hand-care-products/hemp-hand-protector.aspx (http://www.thebodyshop-usa.com/bath-body-care/hands-feet/hand-care-products/hemp-hand-protector.aspx)
It's the only thing I've found that will prevent my hands from cracking in the winter and doesn't leave a waxy residue. I often do a sugar scrub before I use it, and it lasts a couple days that way. I live near an outlet and they often have special deals on it.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Morning Sunshine on October 04, 2013, 06:01:33 AM
I make my own lotion, except my face lotion.... I have a favorite and it is expensive but since I use a dab about the size of a rolled oat, it lasts a long time.  But I do keep 1-2 bottles in storage waiting.
the problem with stocking up too much on a good quality lotion is that it is a fat-based product, and as such, can and will go rancid after too long.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 04, 2013, 06:12:32 AM
I make my own lotion, except my face lotion.... I have a favorite and it is expensive but since I use a dab about the size of a rolled oat, it lasts a long time.  But I do keep 1-2 bottles in storage waiting.
the problem with stocking up too much on a good quality lotion is that it is a fat-based product, and as such, can and will go rancid after too long.
that's why me and my husband will try to learn to make most of it from scratch. Maby we wont make it from scratch all the time but if we learn we might be able to do it in more problematic times. (for example you're sopposed to be able to make resin ointment out of butter instead of oil)
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Cedar on October 04, 2013, 07:31:18 AM
I make my own lotion, except my face lotion.... I have a favorite and it is expensive but since I use a dab about the size of a rolled oat, it lasts a long time.  But I do keep 1-2 bottles in storage waiting.
the problem with stocking up too much on a good quality lotion is that it is a fat-based product, and as such, can and will go rancid after too long.

Often I make my own too. With those and the good quality ones (Z buys me time to time as he knows I like it), I keep them in the refrigerator and they last a long long time. I use a clean spoon and only refill a 2 oz container at a time.

Cedar
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 04, 2013, 07:53:59 AM
Often I make my own too. With those and the good quality ones (Z buys me time to time as he knows I like it), I keep them in the refrigerator and they last a long long time. I use a clean spoon and only refill a 2 oz container at a time.

Cedar
Do you use preservatives? the women holding the course use them but she also recommended that we all should experiment at home later.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Cedar on October 04, 2013, 08:01:11 AM
If anything just Vit E.. but rarely.

Cedar
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Jerry D Young on October 05, 2013, 02:07:00 PM
Feminine needs for long term disasters

Go-Girl/Lady J female urine diverter

Hygiene needs: Packaged/reusable sanitary napkins/Diva Cup/natural sponges/cleansing wipes/etc.

UTI products: Pyridium/powdered cranberry juice or pills/apple cider vinegar

Advil/Midol/Pamprin/Ibuprofen/acetaminophen

4x toilet paper

Privacy means (curtains/enclosures/screens/etc.)/personal space/personal closet or dresser

Sweats/loose clothing, large robes, large towels, various sizes plain underwear, sports bras

Pregnancy prevention supplies

Baby care supplies

Expedient shower methods: sun shower bags/MSR bag shower/pressure sprayer/campers propane shower

Body care products: razors/deodorant/hand lotion/face lotion/body lotion

Facial products: baby wipes (no fragrance/hypo-allergenic/for sensitive skin)/Pre-moistened facial cleansers
 
Hair care products: Non-lathering soap/shampoo/dry shampoo/baby powder/bentonite clay/brushes/combs/tie backs/bandannas/baseball caps, etc.

Lip care products: Chapstick, Lip balm, etc.

Nail care products: nail files/emery boards/etc.

Multiple hot water bottles

Any medical necessities for allergies, prescriptions, etc.

Comfort items: Additional coffee/Chocolate in several forms/salty snacks/soothing teas (chamomile, lavender, peppermint, etc.)

Anti-boredom materials: knitting/crochet/sewing/novels/movies/story teller/sketching tools

Strong lights and reading glasses

Everything set up for easy cleaning/rubber gloves/aprons/


Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: TexasGirl on October 05, 2013, 10:35:25 PM
I'm addicted to the Suave coco butter hand lotion because it smells like chocolate.  For face and other areas, virgin coconut oil works great.

~TG
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 05, 2013, 11:24:37 PM
I have never understood how a "Go-Girl/Lady J female urine diverter" would be practical (it seems sooo unhygienic) unless you would want to pose as a man (I get that in some situations you would want that, atleast i a weary populated area but when you need to do the other thing you need to "sit down" anyway

and well, I wouldn't care about a nailfile if the shit hits the fan, you can keep your Nails short with a knife.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: AvenueQ on October 06, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
I think sturdy footwear is another one.  Most women I know do not own a good pair of work boots. 
As I'm changing my oil today, this reminded me of a similar one: a good pair of work pants. I have 2 pairs of these Carhartts. (http://www.sierratradingpost.com/carhartt-double-front-jeans-dungarees-for-women~p~86678/?filterString=womens-work-pants~d~678%2F&colorFamily=04) They're pricey and hard to find, but have been indispensable to me. Most Carhartt dealers can special order them if they're not in stock (which they never are).

Along with that, a good quality, full set of hand tools is invaluable, especially if you live alone. Best graduation gift I ever got (thanks, dad).
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 06, 2013, 11:40:38 AM
I just use these at home or in the forest http://www.engelsons.se/byxor-1/dam/bobergs-byxan (http://www.engelsons.se/byxor-1/dam/bobergs-byxan)
one good thing is to have different seizes, both so that you can have extra clothes under for when it's Cold and for when you go up or down in weight (both me and my husband have a "summer weight" and a "Winter weight" because you loose alot of weight in the summer working since almost all work is in the summer.

oh wool clothing is important if you live in a Cold climate too but that goes for both man and women
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Frugal Upstate on October 07, 2013, 06:37:55 AM
while I know that some men sew, and many women don't, traditionally sewing (and mending) is considered an art practiced by the woman of the home.  With that in mind, and already knowing how to sew, one of the preps I've been working on is to secure basic patterns for shirts, pants etc for children, women and men.  It seems like something that if you got to the point where you actually really needed them they would be hard to find. 

I picked up quite a few at Joann Fabrics on "pattern sale days"--in the process finding that there are almost NO patterns these days for boys or men anymore, and you can't find a lingerie pattern unless you go online (Kwiksew has bras).  But I also found a Canadian company Jalie that has patterns where the sizes included run from a size 2 toddler all the way up to a woman's 22 in a single pattern--something like 27 sizes for each pattern I think.  Of course you'd have to trace the pieces before using them in order to preserve the pattern, but for around $15 US each I thought they were a good prep to have.  I got a coat, basic jeans, t-shirts (which included 4 different necks and 3 sleeve lengths) and one other kind of shirt. 

Here's an example of the jeans pattern:  Jalie Stretch Jeans pattern 2T-22Womens (http://www.jalie.com/jalie2908-women-s-stretch-jeans-sewing-pattern.html)

I've also been stocking up on a bit of extra thread, needles, sewing machine needles and buttons

Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on October 07, 2013, 08:59:56 AM
oh you remind me, I/we have bought a sewing machine that's not powered by electricity (the old kind you know) that actually works (they are popular are ornamental but few actually works)
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: perihelion on October 07, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
I have never understood how a "Go-Girl/Lady J female urine diverter" would be practical (it seems sooo unhygienic) unless you would want to pose as a man (I get that in some situations you would want that, atleast i a weary populated area but when you need to do the other thing you need to "sit down" anyway

I have the P-Style, which is really easy to clean out with a disinfecting wipe if you don't have soap and water. I keep one in my bug-out bag and one in my glove compartment. I think it's really important. If I only need to pee and have to do so in the woods, on the side of the road, etc., there is NO WAY I would make myself more vulnerable than I have to by pulling my pants and underwear down and squatting. It's also useful if you come upon a particularly gross toilet seat that you don't want to sit on. I hover, personally, but I know not all women can do that.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: AvenueQ on October 07, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
oh wool clothing is important if you live in a Cold climate too but that goes for both man and women
I constantly comb thrift stores for wool sweaters/jackets. I can usually find at least one per trip to the Goodwill stores around here. Most of them are in great condition and under $10. Men's are a bit harder to find, but my boyfriend has found a couple.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Kate Change on October 09, 2013, 01:52:42 PM
I love carhartts, sometimes the mens are cheaper and they'll fit all but the smallest women.  (I'm a size 6 and can wear the 28s or 30s comfortably).  I think if you were below a size 4, you might be out of luck on the men's sizing.  I haven't owned a pair of womens (since I've always had the men's on sale) so I can't say if the fit is more comfortable, but I'm not usually making a fashion statement in the carhartts and I've never had any complaints.  Either way, they've been the most durable pants I've owned, so I'll second that recommendation.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: AvenueQ on October 09, 2013, 02:43:28 PM
I love carhartts, sometimes the mens are cheaper and they'll fit all but the smallest women.  (I'm a size 6 and can wear the 28s or 30s comfortably).  I think if you were below a size 4, you might be out of luck on the men's sizing.  I haven't owned a pair of womens (since I've always had the men's on sale) so I can't say if the fit is more comfortable, but I'm not usually making a fashion statement in the carhartts and I've never had any complaints.  Either way, they've been the most durable pants I've owned, so I'll second that recommendation.
Yep, I'm one of those smallest (I wear a 4x32 in those pants I posted). I've tried on the men's before but they really look comical on me, and would be a hindrance to doing anything useful. It sucks because then I have to fork over the extra money for less fabric  >:(

I can however, wear men's shoe size 7, so I sometimes find good deals that way for hiking boots.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: OutWestTX on October 10, 2013, 05:45:19 PM
If Carhardts don't fit you right, you might try 5.11s.  They make pants for women.  They fit better than most. 
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: carolm on March 16, 2014, 09:38:41 PM
Feminine needs for long term disasters

Go-Girl/Lady J female urine diverter

Hygiene needs: Packaged/reusable sanitary napkins/Diva Cup/natural sponges/cleansing wipes/etc.

UTI products: Pyridium/powdered cranberry juice or pills/apple cider vinegar

Advil/Midol/Pamprin/Ibuprofen/acetaminophen

4x toilet paper

Privacy means (curtains/enclosures/screens/etc.)/personal space/personal closet or dresser

Sweats/loose clothing, large robes, large towels, various sizes plain underwear, sports bras

Pregnancy prevention supplies

Baby care supplies

Expedient shower methods: sun shower bags/MSR bag shower/pressure sprayer/campers propane shower

Body care products: razors/deodorant/hand lotion/face lotion/body lotion

Facial products: baby wipes (no fragrance/hypo-allergenic/for sensitive skin)/Pre-moistened facial cleansers
 
Hair care products: Non-lathering soap/shampoo/dry shampoo/baby powder/bentonite clay/brushes/combs/tie backs/bandannas/baseball caps, etc.

Lip care products: Chapstick, Lip balm, etc.

Nail care products: nail files/emery boards/etc.

Multiple hot water bottles

Any medical necessities for allergies, prescriptions, etc.

Comfort items: Additional coffee/Chocolate in several forms/salty snacks/soothing teas (chamomile, lavender, peppermint, etc.)

Anti-boredom materials: knitting/crochet/sewing/novels/movies/story teller/sketching tools

Strong lights and reading glasses

Everything set up for easy cleaning/rubber gloves/aprons/


Just my opinion.

looks a lot like my list.  Add bras, lots of bandanna, a ton of TP and wool clothing, an u basically got it. I would personally swap out the listed meds for essential oils, because I can't use the meds anymore.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: GudrunHrafn on March 17, 2014, 01:08:09 PM
For feminine hygiene: cloth pads are a great option -- easy to make if you are the sewing-type, and several folks who sell them for folks that don't (http://www.naturallycozy.com/)

For sewing: Having a non-electric sewing machine is a great idea and they often can still be found. Probably the best resource for folks who want to actually USE a vintage/antique machine is the Treadle On community (http://www.treadleon.net/) - Knowing the difference between rotary and vibrating shuttle, whether or not the machine uses standard needle sizes, etc... makes a big difference when you're looking for a machine. Also certain models of vintage electric machines have the capacity to be switched to treadle power by only swapping out a few parts (usually the hand-wheel).

For making clothes: Patterns are great, but better yet is to learn the skills on what goes into clothing construction and fitting. That gives you the option of drafting your own patterns and how to start with a pattern and make it custom-fitted. This can be a better option even now, before its necessary, since you'd have the option to use better quality fabrics than commercial clothing manufacturers typically use.

Also, the small durable supplies like straight pins, safety pins, hand-sewing needles, machine needles, snaps, buttons, clothing hooks, etc... These are easy items to collect over time cheaply, they store small, easily divisible, and extras can become useful barter items.

Understanding how to make cosmetics can be a good skill as well. In a fast-collapse when people are still adjusting to the new paradigm (eg collapse of USSR, Argentina, Cuba's 'Special Period', etc..) such items can be big moral boosters, a comforting touch of normalcy and also a useful barter item. Knowing how to extend shelf-life of such oil based items with Vit E, certain essential oils and natural gums can also be important.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Varginna on March 17, 2014, 01:25:12 PM


Understanding how to make cosmetics can be a good skill as well. In a fast-collapse when people are still adjusting to the new paradigm (eg collapse of USSR, Argentina, Cuba's 'Special Period', etc..) such items can be big moral boosters, a comforting touch of normalcy and also a useful barter item. Knowing how to extend shelf-life of such oil based items with Vit E, certain essential oils and natural gums can also be important.
or Learning how to live without it.
Right now I'm not using schampoo or conditioner when I wash my hair, only water and sometimes herbal rinses. Up until now my hair looks better than ever :D

Some can't only use water though but you can wash your hair with other stuff than schampoo or only water too like Birch leaves or eggs (I have no experiense with that though)
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: soupbone on March 18, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Feminine needs for long term disasters

Go-Girl/Lady J female urine diverter

Hygiene needs: Packaged/reusable sanitary napkins/Diva Cup/natural sponges/cleansing wipes/etc.

UTI products: ...

Just my opinion.


Just like a guy: 1) WHAT is the problem?; 2) HERE is the solution.; 3) DO it.
It's ingrained in our genes - after 43 years, I still do it. And still get kvetched at for doing it.  :deadhorse:

soup
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: Frugal Upstate on March 18, 2014, 10:27:51 AM
Some really good ideas in here, but there is one thought I just had and I didn't see it listed (although I may have missed it): 

OTC products for yeast infections

While not seriously life threatening, they can be mighty uncomfortable.

Another thought depending on your stage of life and who you are prepping for might be pregnancy tests. 
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: ttubravesrock on March 23, 2014, 02:37:44 AM
Keep an extra month's supply of birth control, if you use it. You'll probably have to get it directly from the prescribing clinic as pharmacies will usually only give you one refill every 28 days.

skip a month every once and a while but keep refilling your prescription.
after a couple years you could easily have a three month supply. Just make sure to use a FIFO system to keep your stockpile fresher.
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: GudrunHrafn on March 23, 2014, 01:54:05 PM
Some really good ideas in here, but there is one thought I just had and I didn't see it listed (although I may have missed it): 

OTC products for yeast infections

While not seriously life threatening, they can be mighty uncomfortable.


Okay, here's what I'd suggest. If caught early, a liberal application of a live active culture yogurt should clear it up and soothe the irritated tissue. If that doesn't do it, then Tea Tree Oil is an outstanding anti-fungal (yeast is technically a fungus). Tea tree oil can be applied to the skin without being diluted, but on tender tissue or broken skin it will sting like all get out. We consider a supply of Tea Tree Oil an essential household resource. These are only for surface type yeast infections -- if you get an internal one, you'll need to resort to other remedies and be aware that they can contribute to more significant infections of the bladder and kidneys. With both ideas, YMMV and should not be construed as medical advice -- these are suggestions for your own research.

Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: MyFreedom on October 31, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
Why not just tone your pelvic muscles and learn to pee like a man? I can do it ;)
Title: Re: Overlooked Preps for Ladies
Post by: CoveredBridgeMeadows on March 05, 2018, 11:53:47 AM
Rasperry leaf tea is a real life saver. It's stopped me from killing my PMS-ing 13 year old daughter. :D Okay, maybe I was PMSing too.

It seems to be the only thing other than really high levels of ibuprofen that even slows down my cramps, when they get bad.

Does anyone know if it is only Raspberry specifically or does black-raspberry and/or blackberry work also?  They are very closely related.