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Armory, Self Defense, And EDC => Firearms (Including Long Guns, Pistols) => Firearm Self Defense => Topic started by: dep190 on October 19, 2013, 07:39:58 AM

Title: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: dep190 on October 19, 2013, 07:39:58 AM

When making the choice to carry be aware of the possible ramifications and costs!

A mistrial was declared Friday in a Texas case against a soldier carrying his assault rifle on a hike, in a proceeding that was being closely watched by gun-rights advocates.



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/18/small-legal-victory-for-military-veteran-arrested-after-rudely-displaying-rifle-on-hike-with-his-son/
Title: Re: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: The Professor on October 19, 2013, 01:17:28 PM
A mistrial is not a victory. Sorry.

He can be retried.

I suggest everyone go to that link, though, and watch the original video.  It is unfortunate we don't have the initial interaction on tape, but just listen to the cops on the video.

"We are exempt from the law."

No, they're not.

I hope Mr. Grisham either gets his trial and is found not guilty or has it dismissed.  THAT would be a victory.

The Professor
Title: Re: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: hackmeister on December 20, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
He was convicted in the retrial and was given a $2,000 fine. Unreal:
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Soldier-At-Center-Of-Gun-Rights-Debate-Tried-For-Second-Time-232412011.html
Title: Re: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: NWPilgrim on December 20, 2013, 01:23:14 PM
From what I hear of attorneys posting on other forums, his mistake was struggling with the officer. Even if the police are in the wrong, the time to resist is not at the point of detention, but in court.  If he had verbally protested but physically complied he may have been able to file a suit for misconduct or illegal detention/search or something.  But as soon as he started resisting physically he got into trouble.
Title: Re: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: Canadian Prepper on December 21, 2013, 10:17:23 AM
NWPilgrim makes a good point.

Just a few days ago we had a police officer found guilty under the Police Act of misconduct for the wrongful arrest of a citizen during the 2010 G20 Summit in Toronto. The officer claimed to be under orders to arrest anyone wearing a bandana (potential mask) and picked up someone a good distance away from the protests who had nothing to do with them. He cooperated fully and took them to task after the fact. The police settled out of court for $25 000 about a year or two later and proceeded to investigate the officer. We're awaiting the decision on the officer's fate but its obviously not looking good for him.
Title: Re: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: trekker111 on December 22, 2013, 06:55:28 PM
  It is unfortunate we don't have the initial interaction on tape,

After the guy was convicted by a jury, the court released the full video from the officers patrol car. It starts before the officer even stops his car, and covers the entire incident. After watching it I had no further doubts that the guy is guilty. It shows the officer make sure the gun is on safe, and leave the guy with his rifle and tell him to just keep his hands off of it. Next thing the guy grabs the rifle with both hands and the officer reacts.
Title: Re: SMALL LEGAL VICTORY FOR MILITARY VETERAN ARRESTED AFTER ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFL
Post by: MississippiJarhead on February 06, 2014, 03:49:55 AM
After the guy was convicted by a jury, the court released the full video from the officers patrol car. It starts before the officer even stops his car, and covers the entire incident. After watching it I had no further doubts that the guy is guilty. It shows the officer make sure the gun is on safe, and leave the guy with his rifle and tell him to just keep his hands off of it. Next thing the guy grabs the rifle with both hands and the officer reacts.
Yep, and even unloaded a rifle makes a formidable weapon.