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Title: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: SnoHam13 on December 12, 2013, 07:05:22 PM
looking for an update on the reusable lids

1 how do you like them +/-
2 recommend ?
3 how well do they work with the food saver vacuum unit for canning jars
4 how many times have you reused them

one of the postings sez replaceable seals are available

my source for the metal flats has dried up [cost too much to ship up here to the Keweenaw]
so we are looking at switching to the tattler flats
any and all info will be great fully appreciated

SnoHam13   
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 12, 2013, 07:08:05 PM
They take a bit to get the hang of them, but I love them. I think I have 300-400 lids of them and will put in another order to bump that number way up. I still get more non-seals with them than the metal lids, but I usually do enough processing I can stick it/them in another load.

If you are having issues getting lids, STOCK UP ON BANDS as you are still going to need them with the Tattlers.

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Mullers Lane Farm on December 12, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
Love my Tattlers!!  There is a bit of a learning curve on using them; you don't tighten them as tight as metal lids, wait 5 minutes after removing from canner and tighten them, let sit for 24 hours before removing ring.  I don't have any more or less failure with Tattlers than I do the metal lids. (In a normal year, I'll can between 500-600 jars.)

I've been using them for over 4 years and have used some 6 times already.  I have a few hundred lids and extra seals.  I don't store my rings on my canned items so have an abundance of rings.

There is another reusable canning lid company out there (4everrecap), but they haven't been around as long as Tattler (which I believe was back in the 70's).  4ever has had major problems with their gasket.  This is a good review in a blog  (http://momskitchencooking.blogspot.com/2013/11/4ever-recap-reusable-canning-lids.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2Fhhwzu+%28Mom%27s+Cafe+Home+Cooking%29&utm_content=Bloglines)about 4ever
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on December 12, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
still having a learning curve - mine fail about twice as much as my metal seals.  My big problem is that they look like they are sealed.  I wash the jars and put them downstairs, and THEN when I go down to get them, that is when I notice that they are not sealed.  But I am going to keep using them.

also, if you are planning to get more, I got this email today (although their website does not mention it at all):

TATTLER Reusable Canning Lids - 50% OFF SALE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Tomorrow is Friday the 13th, so we're having a one day, MIDNIGHT
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EVERYTHING (except All American Pressure Canners) will be 50% off for
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Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 12, 2013, 08:54:02 PM
Love my Tattlers.  I simply followed the instructions on the box and have had zero failures to seal.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: r_w on December 13, 2013, 07:47:16 AM
They are definitely different to use, it takes a bit to get the hang of using them in the pressure canner.  But worth it.

They work fine with the foodsaver lid attachment most of the time.  I have had problems with a couple older jars that were a hair taller between the shoulder and top that wouldn't work with a tattler but did with a metal flat. 

Order extra seals--not that they go bad, but that you LOSE THEM.  Especially if the kids help do the dishes.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: LizardGurl on December 13, 2013, 08:15:53 AM
I have had good success with them.  I haven't tried them with the Foodsaver attachment yet.  I use my previously used metal flats for that.

MS Thank you for the coupon code!  I placed an order.

LG
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Mullers Lane Farm on December 13, 2013, 08:44:00 AM
Got the same email/ coupon code

I see more Tattlers in my furture!
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: RogueLibertarian on December 13, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
I love Tattler lids!  Last spring they had a good sale (35% off I think) and I ordered 12 dozen of each regular and wide mouth.  I just placed an order for 12 dozen more of each plus 300 replacement rubber seals for each.  At half off how can you not?

As for issues with the lids I did have some trouble with seals when processing sweet sticky items like pie fillings, jams and jellies.  The problem went away as soon as I left a little more headspace than recommended...maybe an extra 1/4 inch.  Like a previous poster my lids would seem to be sealed after processing but I would find loose lids in the following weeks.  I think the issue was blowout around the lid during processing due to uneven pressures caused by uneven heat application where the sticky substance being canned got on the lip of the jar between the lid and glass.  In time the lid would come undone when the goo would harden and crack..  This would be akin to not wiping the lip of your jars before seating the lid.  I hope this helps all and go give the good folks at Tattler some business!

David aka RogueLibertarian
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: heliotropicmoth on December 13, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
That sale is crazy. I have been wanting to switch over to them. What do I need to buy to replace my metal seals? I see on the website they have "red" lids and rings 100 count for $79.11, and they have the "white" lids and rings 100 count for $81.95. Not a big difference in price at all, just wonder if there is anything different between the two? So all I would need to buy is the lids and gasket rings if I already have a ton of metal rings to hold them on? Should I buy extra gasket rings? How long do they last?

Thanks for any help. I want to buy a 100 of each regular and wide mouth before the sale ends tonight.

Patrick
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 13, 2013, 11:21:36 AM
WAIT. . . .  Where and how do I get this "on sale" price?  Is it too late?
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: mountainmoma on December 13, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
I just did an order of 200 regular lids and 100 wide mouth. The sale is still on just for today. Thank you so much for posting this. It needs to be cross listed on the great deals part of this forum too.

Go to the tattler canning lids web site, when you go to check out, put "madness" in the coupon code area, it will give you 1/2 off, and no shipping charges there !
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: heliotropicmoth on December 13, 2013, 11:50:37 AM
*Bump*

I have 200 regular and 100 wide mouth white lids with rings and a dozen each of the replacement rings sitting in my cart. Does anyone know the difference between the white, red and pink lids? Is it just a color thing? Also it looks like the rings are lifetime as well, but I am buying a dozen extra of each size just in case I lose some. Can someone verify the rings last as long as the lids? Sorry they don't have a FAQ on their website.

Thanks,

Patrick
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: r_w on December 13, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
I see on the website they have "red" lids and rings 100 count for $79.11, and they have the "white" lids and rings 100 count for $81.95. Not a big difference in price at all, just wonder if there is anything different between the two?

If you can tomatoes or chili or beets, your white lids can end up pinkish/reddish stained.  Not a big deal, but it does bother some people so they made them to start out red.

The "lids" include one lid and one gasket.  They sell extra gaskets in case you damage (possible) or lose (likely) some. 

I would order as many lids as you want/need/can afford and then get 5-10% of that number in extra rings. 
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: heliotropicmoth on December 13, 2013, 12:02:18 PM
Awesome, thanks for the info. Going to finish my order right now!
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on December 13, 2013, 12:15:13 PM
you will need canning rings - the metal ring that screws onto the jar.

the discount does not show up until you are ready to check out.  then you can type "madness" into the coupon box and get the discount.

oh, and on how long the rubber rings last?  There are stories on the website of folks who bought Tattlers when they first came out in the 70s who re-found the company in the late 90s.  They say, basically, "my rings are starting to wear out.  Can I get some more?"


thanks everyone for the tips on having more headspace.  I will give that a go.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: heliotropicmoth on December 13, 2013, 12:22:12 PM
Just placed my order! I have a metal ton of rings laying around from the jars I have. Can't wait to start canning with these. With some luck my first batch will be some venison!
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 13, 2013, 12:30:28 PM
Like last night I canned up 8-9 jars of pineapple and mandarin oranges. I had one lid which failed to seal. I generally get NO failures with my metal lids, but maybe 1-2 per canning day with the Tattlers. I generally just eat those ones if I do not have more to can up. Like tomorrow I will likely get more pineapple and oranges at gleaners, so I will wait to recan this one to see if I can run another load... if not, it will be breakfast.

And I have also heard of the Tattler gaskets lasting since the 1970's until now.

Cedar

Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 13, 2013, 01:57:10 PM
Go to the tattler canning lids web site, when you go to check out, put "madness" in the coupon code area, it will give you 1/2 off, and no shipping charges there !

Thank you. . . .  I just placed an order for 12 dz wide mouth lids/rings, 5 dz regular mouth lids/rings, 100 wide mouth rings, and 3 dz regular mouth rings.

WHAT A DEAL !!!!
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 13, 2013, 02:05:04 PM
Thank you. . . .  I just placed an order for 12 dz wide mouth lids/rings, 5 dz regular mouth lids/rings, 100 wide mouth rings, and 3 dz regular mouth rings.
WHAT A DEAL !!!!

I have to wait until they do this next year. I think they do it every Dec/Jan-ish don't they? My house has not closed yet, otherwise I would have gotten more too.

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: r_w on December 13, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
I have to wait until they do this next year. I think they do it every Dec/Jan-ish don't they? My house has not closed yet, otherwise I would have gotten more too.

Cedar

They seem to do 2-3 deals a year, spread around outside the normal canning season.  Sometimes email, sometimes facebook, sometimes through the blogs they sponsor.

Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 13, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Someone post when the next one is please.

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Meldrew on December 13, 2013, 03:43:21 PM
Thanks for the heads up.  8 dozen coming.  Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: SnoHam13 on December 13, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Thank you every one for the quick reply and input
also Morning Sunshine thank you for the ''heads up'' on the 50% off [made the sale easier to my wife]
9 dozen regular flats on the way to test for my self  ;D
ice fishing season is getting started and we are going to canned lake trout,whitefish and smelt instead of  store bought tuna fish [glow fish]

SnoHam13
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 13, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
ice fishing season is getting started and we are going to canned lake trout,whitefish and smelt instead of  store bought tuna fish [glow fish]

I can about 50 lbs. of tuna nearly every year.  I'm not glowing  ;D

Cedar just emailed me a good article on this subject from Oregon State University.  Maybe she can let you know how she obtained it. . . .  No worries about glowing, they way I read in to it.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: SnoHam13 on December 13, 2013, 06:32:26 PM
I can about 50 lbs. of tuna nearly every year.  I'm not glowing  ;D

ya but you do your own

who knows what we get served to us

SnoHam13

Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 13, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
ya but you do your own

who knows what we get served to us

Exactly why I can my own.  I can't stomach the store bought stuff anymore, now that I've tasted the difference.  That's the only negative when I run out of home canned.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 13, 2013, 06:36:14 PM
And I think you said you owe me 3 jars?

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 13, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
And I think you said you owe me 3 jars?

What?  8)  ;)
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 13, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
Didn't you say you recalculated and I was 3 pounds short? I could take beef in trade instead and go to on your coast run next year*S*

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on December 13, 2013, 06:55:18 PM
Didn't you say you recalculated and I was 3 pounds short? I could take beef in trade instead and go to on your coast run next year*S*

Yes, I got your back.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Nomad, 2nd on December 25, 2013, 10:30:40 PM
Question: growing up (and my mother still does) the Ring was left on the jar... I see from the pictures that the tattler jars are all shown without rings.... Did they advertise you must do that to reuse the rings and I missed it? (I know some people take the rings off due to. Fear they will rust, but I might be moving the canned jars around a bit...)
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on December 25, 2013, 10:53:27 PM
You cannot tell on Tattlers if they have sealed unless you take the ring off 24 hrs later. I would be wary of putting the ring back on and making the lid pop off. I have moved full canning jars from one country to another, sans rings and a 4,100 ft elevation change and not one disaster with them.

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on December 26, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
My mom also kept her rings on.  I started taking mine off when I noticed that the rings were creating a false "seal" after they would have just unsealed.  And I noticed rust developing on my rings when I left them on.

I started using tattler years later.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: bruuuuuu on March 09, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
We just got done canning 32 pints of corned beef hash with the Tattler lids.  We've noticed (like a previous poster had written) that we have to leave extra headspace (especially with anything with fat in it) and have to go much more loose on the bands when tightening them.  That said, we've had only one failure of a lid seal in the last two years, past the first 24 hours.  Only about two lids have failed to seal in the first 24 hours, and we just put the jars in the 'fridge and used them up fairly quickly (store what you eat...).  We also tend to take our bands off, working off my assumption that some microscopic bits of moisture may get trapped under the rings and that they may rust more quickly as a result.  I tend to take the rings of my metal dome-lid canned jars for the same reason, so I just kept on doing so when I started using the Tattler lids.

We love the heck out of our Tattler lids and are slowly increasing our supply of them.  They've all seen two to three uses, with only one of the rubber gaskets lost to date, and no damaged gaskets or lids.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: GudrunHrafn on March 10, 2014, 09:27:12 AM
I just got my first box of them and will be trying them out this week. Its been good to read lots of first hand reactions. Thanks for the posts!
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: SnoHam13 on March 11, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
finally got to use the Tattler lids today ;D
and yes the process is very different
first thing was their plastic [lid magnet does not work on them] :rofl: got me on that one
I followed the instructions for the most part and vacuum sealed 8 jelly jars of home made yogurt that Mrs SnoHam made last night
the food saver attachment does not fit over the metal bands so off with them
centered the lids on the jars [after wiping the mouth of the jar]and sealed
the bands went on after the vacuum process and back into the fridge they went
all jars sealed the first try and I will re check them tomorrow

SnoHam13

 
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: trinharder on March 11, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
I like them and have never had any problems with them. I'm hoping I actually have some extra money when they go on the next 50% off sale. I'll get all I can afford.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: suzysurvivor on March 11, 2014, 07:59:10 PM
I used the tattlers for the first time yesterday canning salsa.  sadly, only 2 of the 6 sealed.  I will try them again but prolly not for a while. 
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: FrugalFannie on April 27, 2014, 12:36:49 PM
using these for the first time today. canner just came off the heat. Usually when I can something I write the date and contents on the lid. But since these are re-usable, where do you label your jars when you use tattler lids?
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: nelson96 on April 27, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
using these for the first time today. canner just came off the heat. Usually when I can something I write the date and contents on the lid. But since these are re-usable, where do you label your jars when you use tattler lids?

On a piece of masking tape.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on April 27, 2014, 12:50:40 PM
using these for the first time today. canner just came off the heat. Usually when I can something I write the date and contents on the lid. But since these are re-usable, where do you label your jars when you use tattler lids?

on another tattler thread, I asked the same question.  I think it was Cedar who said she uses stickers like these: http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Removable-Coding-Labels-Inches/dp/B000BMBU9C/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398624471&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=avery+sot+sticker
I am also using them.  For 2013 it was green stickers, and on the sticker I wrote the item (peaches, chicken broth, etc).  For 2014, they are pink stickers, and for 2015 I have orange stickers.  I have even started using these stickers on 6-gal buckets I fill up and #10 cans I am buying.  The color makes it very obvious at a glance what year I obtained that food item.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: FrugalFannie on April 27, 2014, 01:34:11 PM
on another tattler thread, I asked the same question.  I think it was Cedar who said she uses stickers like these: http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Removable-Coding-Labels-Inches/dp/B000BMBU9C/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398624471&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=avery+sot+sticker
I am also using them.  For 2013 it was green stickers, and on the sticker I wrote the item (peaches, chicken broth, etc).  For 2014, they are pink stickers, and for 2015 I have orange stickers.  I have even started using these stickers on 6-gal buckets I fill up and #10 cans I am buying.  The color makes it very obvious at a glance what year I obtained that food item.

those are a little small for me write on I think. I like the color coding for the year. I also put the month on too. I definitely want a sticker that will stay on until I want it off and then come off easily. should be no problem right?
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on April 27, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
those are a little small for me write on I think. I like the color coding for the year. I also put the month on too. I definitely want a sticker that will stay on until I want it off and then come off easily. should be no problem right?

comes off easily if I get to it while it is still wet from the dishwasher; otherwise i have to scratch a bit.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: mountainmoma on April 27, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
I use a china marker, a wax pencil, and write on the tattler lid or the jar, and it easily washes off later.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on October 21, 2017, 10:13:53 AM
old thread, but I have a pressing question.

Last night I had my 15-yo son put the seals and lids on the jars of chicken.  I did adjust the rings properly, and then canned 14 quarts of chicken.  I did everything right as usual, and this morning when I came down, I took the rings off the jars.  Everything was sealed.  But one jar had TWO red rings under the plastic lid.  It is sealed like the others.

Will it stay sealed?  I will use it first, but am curious if anyone else has had a problem like this?
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: mountainmoma on October 21, 2017, 11:24:28 AM
I accidentally did this and didnt notice for a long time, until oening the jr, but it was a jar of tomatoes so wasnt a worry. FOr chicken, I thinkI would just be ral careful and stick that jar in the fridge and eat it in the next month
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Black November on October 23, 2017, 11:43:03 AM
I like tattler lids, but I also still use standard lids too for the jars that I am giving away.

The last thing I want to do is give away or sell a tattler lid.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on October 23, 2017, 12:24:26 PM
I'd stick it in the fridge, eat it tomorrow, and get that lid back on something else with a single ring. I'd be curious if you can pick it up by the lid though. That is how I test my seals.

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Morning Sunshine on October 23, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
I'd stick it in the fridge, eat it tomorrow, and get that lid back on something else with a single ring. I'd be curious if you can pick it up by the lid though. That is how I test my seals.

Cedar

 I CAN pick it up by the lid.  part of the curious nature of the thing
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cedar on October 23, 2017, 01:36:15 PM
It is probably good, but I would not give it the benefit of the doubt. Just use it and not waste it's space on a shelf, that something not questioned can be used.

Cedar
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: LvsChant on October 23, 2017, 03:43:47 PM
I agree with Cedar...

@MS: You have been using the Tattler lids for quite awhile. I would love to hear your review and experience from the years past -- especially any tips you can give since I know it does involve a bit of a change from the other lids in methodology.

I found a bonanza sale on regular lids a few years back just when I was considering buying tattler lids and probably have a good 10-year supply still left. So... the incentive to buy the tattlers just hasn't yet hit me... I know the rubber on those lids won't last forever, but as long as I soak them well in hot water before using, they seem to be just fine. No problems with any of my recent canning...

However... all good things will eventually come to an end, so I'd like to eventually add tattler lids to my stock of canning supplies.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Cyd on April 12, 2018, 10:23:53 AM
I do not like them at all, after trying them off and on for at least 4 years.  I am lucky if I get 50% to seal.  I have tried all of the posted suggestions plus a few more, including less head space, very slow cooling, various methods for tightening and re-tightening, etc.  They just are not reliable and I cannot afford the time, aggravation, and potential loss of the food that I have canned.  I did not like dealing with the company either, as they kept dragging things out with having me try different techniques, then refused to give me a refund when I wanted to return them.  Although the Ball lids are as good as they were in the past, my seal failure with the Ball lids is still only about 1 out of 50.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: LvsChant on April 13, 2018, 06:55:03 AM
Thanks for sharing your results, Cyd. It did seem to be a bit trickier operation. I'm surprised that you had so much trouble. Were you able to get the company to refund eventually? If not, you would probably be able to sell them here on the swap meet (don't remember how many posts are required, but once you have enough the swap meet will be visible to you).
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: Stwood on May 03, 2018, 03:46:09 PM
I bought 1 box of the tattler RM that we are going to try this year.
Title: Re: Tattler reusable canning jar flats
Post by: LvsChant on May 03, 2018, 05:16:42 PM
We are in transition right now (and nothing is growing to can here right now anyway), but I really do want to try them out, too.