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Fastest Growing Trees
« on: September 23, 2008, 01:23:24 PM »
If you have land that is bare you probably want some trees on it for cover, fuel, etc.  Here is a list I have been using to plan some wildlife management stuff.  You don't want all fast trees because a balanced ecosystem has diversity but it is good to know what can give you some cover quickly.  A few of these even produce food for wildlife and or people.

http://www.fast-growing-trees.com/FastestTrees.htm?link=leftnav

Hope you get some use of it,

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 01:31:56 PM »
I had heard about the Austree several years ago.  When you were talking about trees in one podcast a week ago or so, I looked them up again.  Turns out that they are hit and miss when it comes to being successful.  Many people had to get them replaced.  Others found they were essentially cottonwoods and couldn't stand the mess.  I was going to suggest them as a shade tree, but couldn't with the inconsistent success.  This is a great find though.  I was wondering about this myself.  Now, if only we could get a hybrid of the Poplars and some fruit bearing tree.  Something that will yield FOOD, grow quickly, grow tall.  That would be nice.  =-]

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 02:24:06 PM »
Check out the Paw Paw tree.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawpaw


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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 02:42:08 PM »
It took me a while to figure out why that name triggered something in my head...the Paw Paw Bears!!  =-D
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/the-paw-paw-bears.html

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2008, 05:04:19 PM »
Guys be careful about the fast growing trees, some can become very invasive and turn you special plot of land in to a monoculture. What ever you do never plant a Tallow Tree..............

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2008, 06:47:46 PM »
Pawpaws are nice but can take up to 8 years before they produce fruit.  You can get a quicker turn around with apples or peaches, which can start bearing fruit in 3-5 years.

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 07:16:16 PM »
And paw paws are the largest native North American fruit. I have never tasted one. I planted one a couple of years ago, but it accidentally got weed-whacked. Not completely, it is coming back, but it lengthened the time till fruiting.

I think we are talking about the same plant, though as far as I know it is considered a shrub. The flowers are really pretty!

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2008, 11:32:55 PM »
Beware fast growing trees unless they're  a native species to your area.  Otherwise, you can end up with a serious problem.  I see landowners do it all the time, planting some miracle fast growing tree that reaches maturity in 10 years.  The downside? Tree dies in 15.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2008, 08:27:10 AM »
I've heard about problems with the fast growing trees too. My sister-in-law told me about the eucalyptus trees in northern CA. Way back when the folks out there wanted a fast growing tree to help with the landslides etc. and now they cant get rid of them, they smell nice but have become very invasive. I agree that caution be exercised in choosing the right tree. I'm sure Jack gave us credit for understanding all this and knowing we should do research and use our best judgement! ;D

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2008, 08:06:59 PM »
Some fast growing trees also have weak wood.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 11:13:46 PM »
Beware fast growing trees unless they're  a native species to your area.  Otherwise, you can end up with a serious problem.  I see landowners do it all the time, planting some miracle fast growing tree that reaches maturity in 10 years.  The downside? Tree dies in 15.

We had planted some Lombardy Poplars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Poplar)in the yard, which grew very fast.

After about 10 years, they started to die off. This worked out well, as it made good campfire wood for the campfire the trees where planted to hide from the house.

These trees grow well from cuttings, so it's not a big deal to whack off a few branches every year and shove them into the ground in the bare spots.

They live fast, die fast, and burn fast.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 10:30:33 PM »
 A good tree I did not see on the list is the black walnut. They grow fast, are very valuable as timber, and bear nuts.

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2008, 08:18:20 AM »
Another tree that is not on the list that farmers throughout the midwest have planted as border and woodlot trees forever is the Osage orange tree. (Also called Osage Apple, brainfruit and Hedgeapple). They grow fast and were a steady supply of posts for fencing. The wood is dense and hard and the fruit is consumed by some wildlife. They branch out low so they provide a lot of cover. I see them grown near streets to provide some pretty good natural fencing. Just don't park your car under it when the fruit falls. Makes large dents.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2008, 12:14:33 AM »
A good tree I did not see on the list is the black walnut. They grow fast, are very valuable as timber, and bear nuts.

You probably don't want these in your front yard.
They can be a very messy tree. those round nuts, everywhere. Hard to walk on, and they stain your clothes.

They do grow fast. The house burnt down in Feb, so the yard didn't get mowed this year, and we have hundreds of them popping up all over the place. I am going to need to start hacking them down next year so I don't have a real problem on my hands in 5-10 years when I want to do something with what's left of the place.

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2008, 07:19:31 AM »
I respectfully disagree about the black walnut not being a good tree for a number of reasons. They are a great source of food in the form of walnuts and can be eaten by the owner or sold/bartered. The wood is very valuable for its beauty and stability. This is why they are often used for gunstocks. I have heard of owners getting thousands of dollars for a mature tree. The stain that comes from the husk can be extracted and used as just that...stain. For a survivalist it only makes sense that some black walnuts be established on the property. BTW, there is a chemical that the Black Walnut makes that supresses some kinds of weeds. This extends out to the drip line of the tree and is present in the husk. DON'T compost the husk because the chemical will kill off your plants you use the compost on and don't plant the tree next to your garden. There may be a use for the old husks however. If you ferment a tea from the old husks you can probably make a natural week killer/supressor. Maybe?. The walnuts are an attractant for squirrels that can be used as a food source. I can't think of a more perfect tree for the survivalist than the Black Walnut. So many uses from one tree.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 11:23:53 PM »
Keep the black walnuts in the back yard, or anywhere you don't plan on mowing. So in the back 40 is even better.

The nuts are round, really hard, and impossible to walk on. The mower kicks them around and causes all sorts of havoc to kids playing near buy. The nuts when opened by a squirrel or a mower have edges that are razor sharp and pack a mean wallop.

When they fill out, they can be a beautiful tree. They are a tad scragly looking the first dozen or two years.

We burned ours as firewood. I don't remember how they burned really, I think they burned pretty well. We couldn't GIVE the dead trees away. 10 foot, 10inch log. They like the roots better for the gun stocks from what I heard. It has that tight, swirly grain. They don't like yard trees, they tend to have nails and bullets in them, and tear up the saws.

We traded the walnuts for some maple sugar. We never had a taste for the nuts, too strong, but loved that maple syrup.

The husks die anything they touch a dark brown.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2008, 09:50:16 AM »
 It is true that you cannot usually sell a black walknut if you live in town, bacause of the likelihood that they will have nails. If you know that the tree is clean, use it yourself, or a small sawmill operator may be interested. They are the most valuable wood tree I can think of in the midwest. I worked as a logger for awhile, and for a nice straight tree you can easily get upwards of a thousand dollars. I have never heard of using the root, they make gunstocks from the lower grade trees, and veneer from the top grade trees. Walnut burns good similiar or better than oak. My mom does live in town and has a 100yr old walnut in her backyard. Every year several people will come by and ask for the nuts, as a lot of people will collect them to sell. Consideing the value and uses of the tree I would say it is worth having. I don't mow under them, as they are in the woods.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2009, 11:06:21 PM »
IBTW, there is a chemical that the Black Walnut makes that supresses some kinds of weeds. This extends out to the drip line of the tree and is present in the husk. DON'T compost the husk because the chemical will kill off your plants you use the compost on and don't plant the tree next to your garden.
How does the English Walnut fair compared to the Black? Any issue composting English Walnuts?  One think I like about my English walnut is they are a lot easier to crack...

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 12:35:49 AM »
  I don't have any English walnut trees, I have though about planting some. I don't know much about them, no first hand experience.

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Re: Fastest Growing Trees
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2009, 09:20:15 AM »
I'd plant willow -- if you have the time to keep on top of it.

Willow, when about as big around as your fingers, is excellent for making furniture. There's a bit of an art to it, but anyone can learn (I was making furniture at 12). And, once you're good, you can make a tidy profit selling it to people with money. Willow furniture will last a good ten years out in the weather, provided it dries out after getting wet.

Willow needs a decent amount of water, but the soil still needs to be drained. Willow's roots tend to be shallow and spread out as far as the canopy, so don't plant it next to any foundation. Also, the roots will occasionally start new trees. If you have a pond, plant willow around it. It'll stop the soil from washing into the pond and will thrive in that location. It's also great habitat for wildlife if you like birds and whatnot.