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Offline keepitlow

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Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« on: February 24, 2010, 04:50:10 PM »

 
How do 22 CB's subsonic compare to 22 LR subsonic for noise? Are the CB's much quieter?


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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 05:08:01 PM »
I havent used the sub sonic but the CB and the BB caps are very quite.  I use the aguila shells all the time and they are great for being very very quite.  In a rifle they arent as loud as a pellet gun.  In a pistol they arent near as quite.

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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 05:53:52 PM »
The subsonics are still plenty loud, you just don't get the sonic crack. 

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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 07:18:34 PM »
subsonics are great with a can on the end

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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 11:55:19 AM »
CB Caps have less powder than 22LR.  Less powder less noise. 

I use a TAC65 can and have shot CB caps and subsonic 22LR ammo.  The CB caps are quieter than Remington Subsonic's as detected by my ear. 

CB caps won't work the action, have a smaller bullet, and slower velocity.  They are perfect for indoor gallery shooting, but not much else. 

Sound is very subjective.  In a confined area sounds will seem louder than outside in the open.

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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 12:07:06 PM »
Thanks. Am thinking about backyard use for critters in bolt action. Heard that rubber finger cots over the muzzle also help with the report? Anyone try other legal ways to make things quiet?

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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 04:15:26 PM »
I havent used the sub sonic but the CB and the BB caps are very quite.  I use the aguila shells all the time and they are great for being very very quite.  In a rifle they arent as loud as a pellet gun.  In a pistol they arent near as quite.

Thanks for ALL replies.

Tried the CB caps. Pretty happy with them. Very, very quiet in rifle....like a cap gun! In snub they were louder. Penetration was clean though a 3/4 ply sheet with rifle. In snub penetration was 80% or so, but not all the way through ply.

Was going to try aguila shells, but locally have to buy a brick for $35 to try them unless I buy mail-order.

How powerful are LV aguila? Can you take rabbits at 50 feet with aguila?

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=037-129

Also, the low vel stuff are less grains and lower fps than the CB caps. So wonder if they are even worth it over CB's?

BTW, back in the day they had even small shells called BB caps....18 grains lead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_BB

Will have to test the 22LR subsonic for plywood penetration.



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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 04:37:48 PM »
OK, just finished tests

177 pellet in RWS HV break open pellet gun penetrated 1/2 inch ply.

Subsonic HP 22 LR shot from rifle penetrated 2-1/4 sheets of 3/4 ply. (Gun report just starting to hurt ears.)

Remington HV 22 LR round nose penetrated 2-3./4 sheets of 3/4 ply.

All ply was oak faced plywood and spaced 3/4 inches between sheets of ply.

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Re: Subsonics ...22CB vs 22LR
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 06:16:38 PM »
The Agulia shells I was talking about are the Aguila Super Colibri.  I have never shot any rabbits with them but have killed a handfull of squirrels in big trees.  I think 50 ft with a head shot should be fine.  Besides using a suppressor this has to be the quietest way to shoot .22