Author Topic: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE  (Read 4391 times)

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Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« on: September 11, 2013, 08:34:29 AM »
10 rounds, 25 meters, 60 seconds, unsupported (sling ok, but no bipod or rest)... can you shoot 4 MOA?  Don't know?  Shouldn't be too hard, right?
 
Take the Rifleman's Challenge.

If you don't do the facebook thing, post your target here and challenge your friends! :egyptian: (if you have a hard time posting pics, PM me for my email and I'll post it for you) 

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 03:44:54 PM »
Everyone on the Interwebs is a 1 moa shooter right?

So 4 moa should be a cake walk.

Here's my first crack at it with a Springfield Standard M1a. It's a tough test, no doubt. But if you REALLY want to know yow well YOU shoot a particular rifle, this will tell you.


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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 04:22:53 PM »
if i could ever get to the range...

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2013, 05:42:06 AM »
This looks like fun! Unfortunately in Canada, my test will be harder because I have to do a mag change 1/2 way through (with my M14) :-). That said, I could use a Lee Enfield and just work the bolt like a mofo. I am SO trying this out (Though maybe 5 shots in 30 seconds), thanks for posting!


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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2013, 05:53:22 AM »
Man, if only I had a range I could get to.
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And a rifle, to boot. Sigh. A rifle is next on my list.




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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 10:29:17 AM »
Buy some decent ammo for this or you might be selling yourself short.

I have seen many brands of bulk pack .22 that would not shoot 4moa no matter how good the gun or shooter!

I have also had many rifles that were not capable of 4moa off sandbags and a bench, even with the best ammo.

This test is one step past the "minute of tin can" or "minute of squirrel" that every one talks about where the misses are not counted, and could prove embarrassing to many.

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 01:25:19 PM »
Try it at 200yds.  That's why I compete in the local CMP matches.

10 rounds standing, single load, ten minutes
10 rounds sitting or kneeling, mandatory reload, 60 seconds
10 rounds prone, mandatory reload, 70 seconds
20 rounds prone, slow fire, single load, 20 minutes

I'm not within 4MOA, but I'm getting better.  That challenge sounds like a good one for 22LR.

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 03:44:07 PM »
DADGUM. I get home from the range and find this. Shoulda checked in here for one fix before I took care of the other. Thanks so much for this info and challenge.

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 04:21:20 PM »
Everyone on the Interwebs is a 1 moa shooter right?

So 4 moa should be a cake walk.

So everyone understands that since the challenge was to shoot at a distance of 25 yards, 4MOA would be a 10 shot grouping of 1"? . . .  1MOA @ 25 yards would be 1/4" groups.

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 04:38:14 PM »
^^ correct.   

The black circle measures one inch for me. ...or 4 moa @ 25.

There is a 1/4" grid on the target as well, so if you can put all shots in one of those little squares (basically 1 hole)  you're a 1 moa shooter.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 04:43:25 PM by spitstickler »

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 05:09:26 PM »
^^ correct.   

The black circle measures one inch for me. ...or 4 moa @ 25.

There is a 1/4" grid on the target as well, so if you can put all shots in one of those little squares (basically 1 hole)  you're a 1 moa shooter.

You are correct.  I will add one more thing. . .  It doesn't matter if you keep your 1" group in the black as long as you have a 10 shot 1" group (the group can be outside of the black and still be a 4MOA group).  If using a scope, you'll simply want to adjust your turrets so that follow-up groups are in the black.  If using iron sights, you'll simply want to adjust them so that follow-up groups are in the black.  Or, given that most people don't sight their rifles in at 25 yards, you can manually compensate the reticle or front sight so that you correct for how much you were off on previous groups to increase your challenge.

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Re: Take the RIFLEMAN'S CHALLENGE
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 05:52:27 PM »
I'll give it a try.  I was scheduled to attend a appleseed shoot in Pitsburg KS last year but it was cancelled.  Sounds like fun