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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #391 on: February 12, 2013, 11:39:33 AM »
Has anyone ever seen these?  This is a 50 round magazine made by ruger.  It is like having two Butler Creek 25 round mags pressed together.  But this is all a single mold.  My local store had three of these.  Since I have three boys who will each need one, I picked up all three.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/ruger-1022-bx25-2-50-round-magazine-6499-free-shipping

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #392 on: February 12, 2013, 11:57:32 AM »
Has anyone ever seen these?  This is a 50 round magazine made by ruger.  It is like having two Butler Creek 25 round mags pressed together.  But this is all a single mold.  My local store had three of these.  Since I have three boys who will each need one, I picked up all three.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/ruger-1022-bx25-2-50-round-magazine-6499-free-shipping

Everything i have read says that these mags are excellent. Have not seen one complaint about them yet.

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« Reply #393 on: February 12, 2013, 02:09:33 PM »
That's a bit of stretch, as the .gov uses a narrow range of calibers compared with the overall civilian market.
However common components (again I find myself obsessing on primers) could potentially be diverted towards government orders.

I still believe 90% of the reason we can't find what we want at the sporting good store is because of civilian gun owners. I frequently check craigslist and find ads that are clearly people selling things they aren't familiar with.  At first I assumed theft, but now I think many are hoarders looking to make a quick buck.

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The DHS has signed off on an “indefinite delivery” from defense contractors ATK that will include, for some reason, nearly 500 million high-power ammunition for .40 caliber firearms.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/04/usda-orders-326000-rounds-of-ammunition-as-homeland-security-stays-quiet-over-450-million-round-order/

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The solicitation for the ammunition, supposedly to be used for training purposes, includes 100 quantities of 100,000 rounds of 9mm 115 grain jacketed hollow point bullets, 100 quantities of 100,000 rounds of pistol cartridge .40 caliber 165 Grain, jacketed hollow point bullets, and 40 quantities of 40,000 rounds of pistol cartridge 9mm ball bullets.

http://truthisscary.com/2013/02/coming-civil-unrest-department-of-homeland-security-orders-another-21-6-million-rounds-of-ammo/

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #394 on: February 12, 2013, 02:29:12 PM »
Has anyone ever seen these?  This is a 50 round magazine made by ruger.  It is like having two Butler Creek 25 round mags pressed together.  But this is all a single mold.  My local store had three of these.  Since I have three boys who will each need one, I picked up all three.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/ruger-1022-bx25-2-50-round-magazine-6499-free-shipping

I own some of the BX-25s.  I paid about $25 each.  One of them had a spring problem the first time I used it, but after a quick re-assembly it's been perfect for thousands of rounds.  I highly recommend them.  In fact, I keep one loaded with CCI stingers in the night stand safe, as backup for the backup.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #395 on: February 12, 2013, 07:01:42 PM »
Has anyone ever seen these?  This is a 50 round magazine made by ruger.  It is like having two Butler Creek 25 round mags pressed together.  But this is all a single mold.  My local store had three of these.  Since I have three boys who will each need one, I picked up all three.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/ruger-1022-bx25-2-50-round-magazine-6499-free-shipping

That's all I buy for new mag's now, they are awesome.  Have had zero issues after thousands of rounds.  Can't say that for the Butler Creek plastic lipped mag's.  I have noticed that Butler Creek is now making something similar.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #396 on: February 12, 2013, 09:15:26 PM »
I have been looking for 9mm for three weeks without any success here in middle TN. 

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #397 on: February 12, 2013, 10:38:18 PM »
I have been looking for 9mm for three weeks without any success here in middle TN.

heh - perhaps the redeeming quality of a blue state is there's not as much competition for ammo.

Actually 9mm, .40sw and .223 are scarce in the Seattle area, as we also have a decent sized mall ninja population.  I've been stocking up on wheel gun ammo after I found it on sale :)

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #398 on: February 13, 2013, 06:25:47 AM »
I have been looking for 30 30 since I got a Marlin and it was gone.  But now 2 week later I'm starting to find it at reasonable prices $16.00 per 20.  9mm, 223, 308 and 22Lr are still gone.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #399 on: February 13, 2013, 11:29:14 AM »
ditto on the .22lr.  What's the deal?  Most of the threatening legislation has exempted rimfire.

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« Reply #400 on: February 13, 2013, 11:40:23 AM »
ditto on the .22lr.  What's the deal?  Most of the threatening legislation has exempted rimfire.
It might just come down to it being the one round that people can still afford to stockpile in large quantities.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #401 on: February 13, 2013, 12:32:32 PM »
Call your local Wal-Mart around midnight to find out if what you need came in.  They have unloaded the trucks and stock is in the depts.  You can get to it before everyone does in the morning.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #402 on: February 13, 2013, 05:11:59 PM »
When cheap 223/7639/54539 and 9mm are gone it makes 22 at 5 cents a round very appealing...

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #403 on: February 13, 2013, 05:38:30 PM »
ditto on the .22lr.  What's the deal?  Most of the threatening legislation has exempted rimfire.

The legislation has exempted semiauto 22 rimfires that feed from a tubular magazine, but the detachable magazine feed ones are treated just like their centerfire cousins. In all of the various peices of ammo legislation i have seen, i have not seen the 22 exempted.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #404 on: February 13, 2013, 06:30:05 PM »
Stopped into a gunshop in Springfield, OH at lunch time.  They had bulk packs of .22LR in, but it was double price of last Fall... $45/500ct.  .380 and 9mm was in limited qty, but only a few dollars higher per box of 50ct than last fall.  For rifles, they had plenty of .308 at basically the same price as last Fall (200rds for $160), but their .223 in 2000 rd bulk pack was listed for $1600.  Smaller quantities were about a $1/round.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #405 on: February 13, 2013, 09:02:22 PM »
.223 was available at dick's sporting goods in Grand Rapids mi today.  Some handgun ammo too but no .22lr

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #406 on: February 13, 2013, 09:03:35 PM »
Stopped into a gunshop in Springfield, OH at lunch time.  They had bulk packs of .22LR in, but it was double price of last Fall... $45/500ct. 

WTF!? 45 bucks for a brick of .22?

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #407 on: February 13, 2013, 09:05:11 PM »
A friend said there is almost no .40 here.  Whoa.  There is usually much more .40 on hand than 9mm. 

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« Reply #408 on: February 13, 2013, 09:09:29 PM »
their .223 in 2000 rd bulk pack was listed for $1600.  Smaller quantities were about a $1/round.

Are people paying it? . . . .  Man I wish I had invested in more, to sell.  I have plenty, but am holding on to it like gold.

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« Reply #409 on: February 13, 2013, 09:37:52 PM »
I'm finding that the shops that sold in large volumes that have now implemented limits are able to keep some inventory, at least for ball 9mm, 5.56, .40, .45 and 7.62x39 and hold the prices to not insane (I didn't say good prices, but at least not insane).  The smaller shops just can't keep many calibers on the shelves, especially 9mm and 5.56.  It's funny, because in 2008 it was the opposite and 7.62x39 and .40 were like unicorn farts, but 9mm and 5.56 was still available.  I wonder how much of that is re-tooling for .40 production after the shortage and the opening up of the Russian markets now vs. major changes in demand ratios?

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #410 on: February 14, 2013, 03:57:41 AM »
Our local walmart now has 2 boxes of 12ga 00 buck, 1 box of slugs, 2 boxes of 300 win mag, and several 20rnd boxes of federal 9mm hp's, for 19.95.

This is in addition to my last post.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #411 on: February 14, 2013, 06:58:20 AM »
A friend said there is almost no .40 here.  Whoa.  There is usually much more .40 on hand than 9mm. 

in Tucson 40 and 9mm were some of the first pistol calibers to go. the only thing that is usually in stock is 45, that's the only ammo i've never seen completely out.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #412 on: February 14, 2013, 09:57:53 AM »
I am seeing much the same thing in St Louis.  22lr, 380, 9mm, and 223/556 are all hard to find, as are many reloading components.

In about a dozen trips to Bass Pro Shop over the last month, I have only seen 22lr on the shelf once.  It was Win Wildcats for $2.20 a box, with a 10 box limit, and it disappeared fast.  At a local gun show over the weekend, a couple of people had bricks on the table for $45.  These were not normal ammo dealers, just guys that had a couple in the safe that they were willing to part with for those prices.  They weren't selling many, but there were occasional buyers willing to go that high.  Bird shot and sub-sonic (primer only) rounds can be found, but not many are interested.

9mm rounds cannot be found at retail outlets.  There is a local indoor range that was charging $25 per 50 for target loads with a strick limit of 1 box for range use only.  I have heard of other ranges struggling to keep it on the shelves with similar limits.  Even the personal protection rounds are hard to find, even though they are commanding much higher prices.

9mm bullets can be found easier than the ammo, but they are not guaranteed to be on the shelf. I have seen 124gr LRN for $9/100 and 124gr FMJ for $13/100.  It has been a long time since I have seen any JHP, even though the price tags are in the $18-20/100 range on the empty shelf.

380 seems even rarer than 9mm.  I saw boxes of 100 Win target loads for $38 a couple weeks ago, but have not seen anything since.  There were some cases of target loads at BulkAmmo late last night for about $.45/round, but they did not last until morning.

The last 223 I saw was on the table at a gunshow for $16/box of 20.  Again, nothing readily available at the big-box shops, but some can be found in smaller shops and in the secondary markets.  It seems to be a little cheaper than the $1/round national average.

The real challenge has been finding small pistol primers.  Small rifle primers have recently gotten just as hard to find.  I did find one small shop that keeps a few trays of primers behind the counter, and if you walk up to the register with a hand full of merchandise and ask about them while checking out, they will toss in a tray of 100 for $4.  That is the only place I have seen them in the last 2 months.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #413 on: February 14, 2013, 05:23:55 PM »
We're seeing a little 223/5.56, and a smattering of .22. We have found that the .22 bricks sell online for $75!  Theyre not even going in the ammo case anymore. Still seems that we are one of the only shops keeping much in stock locally though. Still not enough coming in to feel comfortable though, especially .22.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #414 on: February 15, 2013, 12:59:19 AM »
Keep getting emails from Freedom Munitions but by the time I get to their site everything is gone.  Maybe tomorrow.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #415 on: February 15, 2013, 09:32:30 AM »
We need a laugh here -
I was looking online for ammo and as expected everything was on "backorder".  Clicked on a new page and there was a picture of some 9mm ammo and it listed them as in stock.  The price was low too.  I clicked on the picture with out really reading the description only to find I was looking as snap caps.    :rofl:

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #416 on: February 15, 2013, 09:46:43 AM »
Got an email from midway usa that said they have 45-70 brass in stock. I requested notification for that as well as 45 colt, and 30-30 at the same time. They aren't expecting to have either of those in until APRIL.

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« Reply #417 on: February 15, 2013, 09:53:21 AM »
A friend from out of state was visiting and just getting into reloading.  He mentioned he wanted to look around our area for small rifle primers as that is the one component he does not have much of.  Told him no way he will find anything on the shelves, but I could give him a couple thousand from my stocks. 

Later on I was checking reloading supply sites to forward to him for reference and discovered one online actually has primers in stock!! So I ordered 5,000 Wolf .223 primers and they should be here within a couple of weeks.  They are almost $40/1,000 but locally I was paying $34 so it is not that much more and the Wolf .223 primers are hard to find in stock anytime.  I think the CCI and other rands are like $45/1000 or something.
http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=WOLFSMMAG

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #418 on: February 15, 2013, 10:10:27 AM »
If you really want to get your hands on some 9mm, 380, or 40 S&W, I would recommend bulkammo.com.  Over the last week, I have seen 9mm ball show up there about 4-5 times at prices of about $.37 per round for steel case to $.47 for brass case.  When it shows up, it disappears within an hour, so you have to check frequently and act fast.  Also, don't forget to used your MSB code for $10 off purchases of $200 or more (look the code up before you need it, so you are ready to place your order quickly).  380 is rarer, but I have seen target ammo for $.45 per round.

Before I started typing this post, they had 86 boxes (50 rounds) of Remington 9mm MC for $23.  Now it is only 39 boxes available.

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Re: Ammo shortages (now 2014)? What are you seeing out there?
« Reply #419 on: February 15, 2013, 10:21:17 AM »
And... it's gone.