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Transcribing Ep 840/873/897
« on: July 09, 2013, 02:33:03 PM »
In my never ending quest to have all Steve Harris's episodes transcribed, I am starting the 3 part episodes "Steven Harris on Alternative Energy Technologies." (Ep 840/873/893). That mean there 4hr 5min 56sec of transcribing to be done...


If you want to help, just reply to this post. I'll let you know what has been done, and you can pick what to transcribe.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2013, 05:46:08 PM by fritz_monroe »

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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/893
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 06:35:07 PM »
Episode 873 completed - Part 1

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           JACK SPIRKO:  Hi, folks, this is Jack Spirko with
      another edition of the Survival Podcast.  As always,
      one man's view of the changing world, the changing
      times and the things we can all do to live a better
      life if times get tough or even if they don't.  Coming
      to you once again from Hot Springs Village, Arkansas,
      high atop the Highway 7 ridge line from TSPN.  That's
      the Survival Podcast network headquarters, a/k/a, The
      Ant Hill.  Today is April the 4th, 2012, and this is
      Episode 873 of the Survival Podcast, and it is a
      Wednesday.  So hump day on the way over.  Got a great
      guest for you returning for his 7th appearance,
      Mr. Steven Harris, guru of all things, and I shouldn't
      even say alternative energy, but guru of all things
      energy and home-brewed energy.  I'm going to have him
      on in just a minute.
                Let's go ahead and take care of our sponsors
      first.  Sponsor of the day number one, Bulkammo.com.
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      before you buy from Bulk Ammo, if you're MSB, do check
      out the MSB first and see what kind of discount that
      they offer you.  Next up today, Murs Radio.  Now, what
      I love about Murs is, first of all, you can buy and use
      it out of the box without having to get a license or
      anything like that.  Second of all, it gives you a
      really great high-quality level of communications in,
      let's say, a neighborhood-sized area, a mile or two,
      and it just works great.  Five frequencies and five
      sub-frequencies.  So it's easy to find a frequency if
      there does happen to be another Murs user near you that
      they're not using so that you can keep your
      communications to yourself and not be interfered with
      by other people's communications.  Then add to that you
      can get these motion detectors and you can put them out
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      on your property and they'll send your handheld, your
      base station something that sounds kind of like this:
      "Alert Sector 1, Alert Sector 1"  when it detects
      movement or heat where that detector is.  So this could
      be used to find out what's, I don't know, digging up
      stuff in your garden at night so you can put a bullet
      in it because that's what's about to happen at my
      place.  I had something dig out a lavender plant last
      night.  It looked like a person did it.  I'm thinking
      it was a masked bandit raccoon.  He might be raccoon
      stew if this keeps up, and Murs might help me get him.
      It would also let me know if somebody out there like a
      two-legged rat was walking around and I needed to know
      that as well.  So Murs secondary communication plus
      security, one package, awesome, awesome stuff.  Check
      it out.  Rob over there that runs Murs -- and it's
      Murs, M-U-R-S, dash radio.com.  There's a dash in
      there.  And the best way to make sure you don't have to
      worry about that, go to Survival Podcast, click on the
      banner.  Rob, who runs that company, he only has like a
      dozen products.  If you don't know what you need, if
      you're not sure, pick the phone up and call Rob.  He
      will get back to you.  He may not get back to you
      during business hours because he also works a job.
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      This is why I love what I do.  I get to help small
      businesspeople that are building something further for
      themselves at the same time they're working for
      somebody.  But he'll get back to you.  He'll call you.
      He speaks English, right?  And he knows what he's doing
      and he will say here's what you need, this is what it
      does.  And sometimes you might say, you know what, to
      increase your range, you might want an external antenna
      from the one you're going to keep in your vehicle.
      Here's where you can buy one.  I don't sell that.  This
      is the best price.  Or he might say, you know what, for
      what you want to do, my equipment's not right for you.
      Here's where I think you should go.  That's an honest
      businessperson.  He's built a great business because of
      that.  Check him out today, Murs hyphen radio,.com or
      Murs dash radio.com.  Use the same keystroke, but some
      people call it a hyphen, some people call it a dash.
      Next up, I want to thank everybody that e-mailed me
      yesterday.  I couldn't get back to everybody because
      I'm stuck on my iPhone while I'm still trying to get my
      stuff fixed from Wild Blue, a listener out there that
      actually does contract work for a while or is a
      reseller.  I'm not sure.  I'm going to find out more
      because he's really helped me out.  Got somebody to
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      come out there yesterday.  The guy was there for like
      seven hours and couldn't fix the problem.  It needs a
      different part.  I don't know.  He's coming back this
      afternoon, at least that's the story, and we'll get my
      internet back.  But I didn't have internet up.  And
      what everybody was getting in touch with me about
      yesterday was their concern for my family that was down
      in Dallas yesterday obviously, my son, my wife's family
      basically and my son.  And the tornado that hit down
      there in the, let's say, Cannondale/South Mansfield,
      South Arlington area actually went right by everybody.
      In fact, if you actually were to look at a map of like
      where my sister-in-law lives, my other sister-in-law
      lives, my son lives and my father-in-law lives, there's
      like this alley, and the tornado literally went through
      that alley.  It just missed them completely.  The
      apartments down the street from where my son lives were
      just devastated and his were untouched.  So we had
      thought that his apartments were hit based on reports
      that came in from the area.  It ended up being this
      other complex.  But he was actually paying for his
      vehicle tags, and he was in a really safe, big, heavy
      government building when the tornadoes were hitting.
      So I guess paying your taxes in one instance actually
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      paid off, at least for him.  So thanks to everybody
      that asked.  I didn't get back to you because it was
      just too many people to be trying to answer on an
      iPhone, and I was still getting information as this was
      going on.  I mean, if you watched the Weather Channel
      or anything yesterday, you know any folks down there in
      that area that were affected, man, our heart goes out
      to you.  I think there's going to be a lot of relief
      effort in the area.  The one thing about a big metro
      area like Dallas is unless you take everything out,
      there's plenty of people to move in and help once the
      stuff clears.  And so I know, for instance, my
      brother-in-law, who is a police officer in Grand
      Prairie, pretty much spent the entire night working
      mutual aid calls with adjoining cities.  So there's a
      lot of support there.  And it doesn't look like it was
      anywhere near the devastation that occurred to places
      like, you know, Birmingham last year.  It looked like
      we had a lot of touch-and-go action.  But the tornadoes
      were significant.  There was footage many of you may
      have seen already where it hit a Flying J truck stop
      and a truck yard next to it, and it was throwing
      tractor-trailers up into the air like toys.  That was
      some pretty impressive evidence that there are some
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      dangerous things out there.  We need to be prepared as
      possible.  Once again, I listened to the frickin
      newscasters telling everybody to go in their basement,
      and I just want to scream, "No one in north Texas
      anyway that I know of has a frickin basement, you
      tools!"  And then telling me, you know, "If there's a
      tornado, get out of your car.  Don't stay in your
      vehicle."  Well, I guess if it's on a direct course for
      you and you can't get away, then maybe there's a
      building somewhere, but, you know, what are you
      supposed to do?  So I think that we need better
      planning for what to do in the case of a tornado, and I
      think the talking heads on the TV do a good job of
      warning us and telling us where to come, but telling
      people what to do I don't think is really a great idea.
      If you're mobile in your car and you can keep moving
      and you see a tornado moving a certain way and you can
      move the other way, stay in your car and do that.  If
      it's coming down the road following the road like a
      train behind you and you're trying to outrun it, odds
      are you're not going to outrun it so you need to find
      some way to get out of the pathway.  And in that case,
      they're right.  But in some other instances, what they
      say just doesn't make sense.  When they advise people
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      in mobile homes get out of your mobile home and go to a
      sturdy building, well, what if there's not a sturdy
      building around there?  And that means some of us need
      to think about putting in better tornado shelters,
      myself included.  Every once in a while, nature gives
      us a wake-up call.  So thank you all of you that
      inquired about what was going on and know that the
      reason I didn't get back yesterday was because I just
      didn't have the logistics and I was also concerned in
      making sure everybody was okay.  And frankly, by the
      time I was sure everybody was okay, I had a couple
      drinks and took a nap on the couch.  Because the
      adrenaline is up.  When the adrenaline goes down,
      you're done.  Anyway, I know that goes long, but I just
      want to say that remember also you guys could connect
      to me on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter.  Do that at the
      site.  Member's Support Brigade, I'm not going to say
      much about that because Steven actually kind of really
      sold it harder than I ever do in the interview.  But I
      will just say about the Member's Support Brigade right
      now before we get into the interview, if you are
      military, law enforcement, or Peace Corps, active duty,
      prior service, please e-mail me before you join.  First
      responders like fire and EMS, I do that discount for
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      you guys as well.  Just put service discount in your
      subject line and e-mail me, Jack@thesurvivalpodcast.com
      and I'll send you your special service discount.  All
      right, with that, it gives me great pleasure this time
      to welcome back guru of all things energy and one of --
      becoming one of my good friends, Steven Harris.  Also I
      want to tell you that in the first, I'd say, 10, 15
      minutes of this interview, you're going to hear him
      talk an awful lot about one of his products almost to
      the point where you might go, this sounds a little
      infomercial-ish.  You know, if you've listened to the
      show for a long time, then you know I don't let that go
      on.  If you're a new listener, just trust me.  I don't
      let that go on.  So you might wonder why I would let
      Steve do this.  Because he's not really selling.  He's
      just very excited about what he's put together.  And
      what I would -- and the other reason I'm willing to do
      this is because he's had this product with this little
      still that you can put on your table for a long time
      and it's a great product.  I've used it myself.  It
      works.  And when it first came out, it was at one level
      of performance and there were other things you needed
      to get for yourself and there were other hurdles to get
      over.  And then he did things like brought the zeolite
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      to it that actually lets you get the last bit of water
      out of the ethanol and make it immediately usable as
      fuel in a vehicle.  Then now he's got something I'll
      let him talk about today that makes the whole process
      even easier.  It reduces the amount of energy and work
      and time and inconvenience necessary to produce your
      own fuel.  And at this point, a person really can, with
      nothing more than a few watts of electricity, go find
      places like doughnut shops that are throwing away
      doughnuts or bread shops that are throwing away bread
      and use a five-gallon bucket and no heat source and
      turn out two gallons, four gallons.  It depends on how
      many stills you want to run of fuel a week for pennies
      on the dollar.  And that's why I'm going to let him
      spend a little bit more time on that.  I just wanted to
      give some clarification on that.  And one final thing
      before I bring Steven on, at one point in the call,
      let's say about 15 minutes in, I think, or maybe 10,
      you're going to hear distinctive change in the fidelity
      of Steve's voice.  He'll still be very clear, very easy
      to understand, but he's going to go from, you know,
      that deep, good fidelity that you get on a good
      microphone to the less fidelity you get on a telephone.
      We had some kind of headache yesterday with his
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      internet connection that he was -- he would be talking
      and saying, well, Jack, see what you do is you take the
      bucket and then you -- and you see, and that just
      doesn't work.  So we stopped the call after several
      attempts to fix the problem and just brought him in by
      phone.  So you'll hear that point.  Don't think
      anything's gone wrong with your speakers or anything.
      It was the best we could do under the circumstances.
      And with that, again, I want to welcome back again one
      of my good friends for his, I believe, 7th appearance,
      right, Steven?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  7th appearance, an all-time record
      holder for TSP, isn't it?
           JACK SPIRKO:  Yeah, absolutely is.  There's no
      doubt about that.  So I mean, we have left a little bit
      undone on ethanol in the last appearance, and we're
      going to go over a bunch of other alternative
      technologies that we didn't get to cover last time
      because we went like an hour and 20 minutes and still
      had a ton to go.  Do you want to kind of recap some
      stuff for us?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yes, I will, I will, because see,
      my 6th appearance was supposed to be (inaudible).  I'm
      dishing out everything all the forms of energy, what
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      works, what doesn't work.  It's a giant overview.  My
      previous shows I've covered biomass.  I covered
      gasification.  I covered ethanol.  I covered solar heat
      in detail.  You can go to solar Solar1234.com and get
      links to all of my previous shows.  And so this is kind
      of like an overview recap, an update.  And the last
      show, the 6th show, I covered solar heat, solar
      photovoltaic electric, biogas that makes methane,
      biomass gasification, which makes syngas, CO and H2.  I
      covered ethanol, which I have a really neat update for
      you on now.  I covered water power.  Only form of water
      power in the entire world is a damn, okay?  I covered
      microdams and microturbines.  And I covered wind energy
      in the last show, which is something you'll really want
      to listen to.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Very cool.  And we were chatting
      before you got started here, and we were talking about
      some stuff with the ethanol that you mentioned and
      you've got some stuff that I actually consider like
      groundbreaking, maybe earth-shattering, especially that
      it's going to be available to normal people like me.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, I do.  I do.  And it's
      really -- really a -- it's something that ADM, Archer
      Daniels Midland and Monsanto had and all the big boys
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      had, and they've had it for like five to ten years, but
      it wasn't available to you and me.  Well, I have a
      little bit of a chemistry background and I have a
      little bit of a customer base and, you know, I'm
      sizable enough in the industry and I know what I'm
      talking about.  I speak the language and I called up
      some of these places, and I talked to them and I found
      the right guy.  I found their expert on enzymes, and I
      had a long conversation with him, and he said, yeah,
      sure, we'll supply this to you.  We'd be happy to
      supply this to you, you know, and you got to buy it in
      decent-sized quantities to resell it.  But what it is,
      it's called simultaneous saccharification and
      fermentation.  Now, as a little bit of a recap for you,
      all ethanol, every bit of alcohol in ethanol is
      fermented from one thing, sugar.  It's not fermented
      from corn or wheat or flour or any other.  It's not
      fermented from that.  It's fermented from sugar.  The
      thing is you take your potatoes, your corn, your wheat,
      your doughnuts, your waste bread, your, you know, flour
      that's no good, those are starches.  Those are called
      polysaccharides.  They're long chains of sugar.  And
      what you do -- polysaccharides, simple sugars that the
      yeast will eat.  And this is the same type of sugar
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      that you and I eat is monosaccharide.  And to do that,
      you had to do what was the cooking process.  You had to
      mix up your mash, you know, take a drill and a bucket
      full of doughnuts, water, mix it up into a slurry.
      Then you had to cook it.  You had to heat it up to
      about between 180 and 212 degrees Fahrenheit, and you
      had to add one enzyme at that temperature, stir it up,
      let it sit, let it cool down to 140 degrees, add a
      second enzyme, mix it up again, let it sit, then cool
      it down to 85 degrees Fahrenheit and then pitch in your
      yeast and let it ferment.  Well, it's also a lot of
      energy use.  You have to heat the whole thing up to
      near boiling temperature.  I mean, that's a big pot of
      mash in a big heater like the one you used for cooking
      turkies outside, and that's a lot of propane or natural
      gas or a lot of wood heat to get it up to boiling.  You
      got to babysit the thing and make sure it doesn't get
      too hot and everything and pitch in the enzymes and
      wait for it to cool down.  I mean, it could take a
      while for something to cool down from 200 degrees to
      140 degrees, okay?  So less time you're babysitting and
      you're adding the other enzyme.  And then you got to
      let it cool down again for 140 down to ambient, which
      might be overnight before you add your yeast and then
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      you ferment the monosaccharides that were converted
      from starch or were ethanol and then you're going to
      distill the ethanol out of the wash.  Well, that is
      called saccharification, okay.  And what I'm bringing
      to the table and I'm making available to everyone, it's
      not out yet.  I mean, today is April 4th, 2012.  You
      might be listening to this in a month from now or a
      decade from now.  But when you go to IMakeMyGas.com and
      there will be a link on Solar1234.com and you see me
      mentioning and making something for sale called
      Constellation SSFO2O, that's it, okay.  What this is is
      simultaneous saccharification and fermentation.  So all
      you have to do is put all your doughnuts into a bucket,
      add water, take a big drill with a paint mixer on it,
      make a big slurry on it, make sure it's at 85 degrees
      Fahrenheit.  And up here in the north, we put like a
      brew belt on it to heat it up to 85 and keep it.  Jack,
      where you are, you're just going to put it on your back
      porch.
           JACK SPIRKO:  It's a little cooler than that out.
      I can probably paint it black.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, exactly.  So now you're
      going to add the constellation enzyme into the mixture
      at 85 degrees Fahrenheit and you're going to add your
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      turbo yeast at the same time, okay, guys.  No cooking,
      no heating.  You just add it at the same time, and in
      two to three days, you have the same result as you did
      with the cooking process.  In two to three days, you
      have what was doughnuts in water and instantaneously
      fermented into alcohol and the (inaudible) right before
      distillation.  So that's the basics of it.  I'm really
      trying to change this whole industry.  I'm really
      trying to make it available for the little person, for
      you to be able to get a waste source of energy as in
      two-day-old doughnuts.  You see one-day-old doughnuts
      for sale.  You never see two-day-old doughnuts for
      sale.  Those get thrown in the trash.  So you can get
      farm bread, bread that goes to the store, then it goes
      to the outlet store.  Well, what happens, it doesn't
      sell from the outlet store.  Well, they sell it by the
      pickup truckload to feed the pigs.  So you can get this
      priced by the pound, so it's really great stuff.
      Because bread, flour, doughnuts, all the stuff will
      convert over with the Constellation SSF into a sugar,
      and now you can have really cheap fuel.  And speaking
      of really cheap fuel, I have a way for you to get your
      fuel even cheaper.  And the thing I got to tell you
      about is I'm a member of this.  It's called the
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      Member's Support Brigade.  It's from Jack at The
      Survival Podcast.  It's packed full of discounts from
      all of his sponsors.  Plus you get even more discounts
      from people like me.  You get 15 percent off my stuff.
      I've used the discounts when ordering stuff.  I got to
      order something, I check Jack's people.  Yeah, they got
      what I want, and I give the discount, I order it, and
      it works really good.  But Jack, I mean, tell me a
      little bit and the new people a little bit more about
      the MSB, and then I'll tell you what I'm going to
      offer.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Well, cool.  I mean, I say it at the
      beginning of every show, but obviously what we have --
      and frankly, it's not all our sponsors.  Most of our
      sponsors do a discount.  In total, there's about 32
      supporting vendors, including yourself, that do that.
      I'm always shaking people down for another discount.
      Can't wait to hear what I'm going to get from you this
      time.  But, you know, what it allows people to do is
      basically support the show at 20 cents an episode and
      save money.  And you've been supporting it for a long
      time.  You give a discount off one of your websites
      there, and I think you're going to tell us that you
      have something back in stock and you're going to give
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      us a discount on that in addition to a sale price or
      something like that.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yes, I definitely do.  What I have
      is I have the ethanol stills coming back in stock next
      week.  I am shipping positively next week.  Everything
      is coming in by the pallet load.  So you can go to
      IMakeMyGas.com and buy the ethanol still right now.  So
      you're going to preorder it for a week and I ship it
      next week.  You'll have it in about two or three weeks
      or less, and there will be links again, Solar1234.com.
      And the MSB discount used to (inaudible) all my books
      and DVDs, okay, on USA2.com and now publications.com.
      All my books and DVDs, all MSB members get 15 percent
      off all day long.  I am going to -- for this time only,
      I am going to let all the MSB people apply their
      15 percent discount to the ethanol stills and the
      ethanol stills and packages.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  So a still starts at $215 just for
      the still.  So with your MSB discount, you get 32 bucks
      off right there and you're buying it for 182 plus
      shipping.  And I have a whole combo kit that includes
      the still, the distiller, the thing you put the mash
      into, plug into the wall and alcohol comes out of.  I
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      got the alcohol measurement kit, so you can tell that I
      got 40 percent alcohol coming out at this time, I got
      80 percent alcohol coming out at this time, I got
      85 percent alcohol coming out a third distillation.  I
      got the starter kit, Jack, which you have not seen yet.
      But it's an 8-gallon plastic container with a lid and
      fermentation lock and a spigot at the bottom.  So you
      get plenty of room to put in all of your doughnuts or
      all of your sugar and your water and your yeast, and
      it's got room to bubble up.  That's new to the system,
      the complete starter kit.  Plus I got the Bible of
      alcohol production.  I got the book that -- you
      listened to a previous show, Jack dropped on to the
      desk with a "thud," okay.  It's Alcohol Can Be a Gas.
      I got the book and the DVD.  That comes in the combo.
      It's 660 pages in the book, and the DVD is three and a
      half hours.  Plus the combo comes with the zeolite so
      you can get the last 10 percent of the water out of
      your alcohol so you can then mix that 50/50 with
      gasoline and put it into your car right now, any car,
      no flex fuel vehicle needed.  Any car right now, 1983
      or newer will run on alcohol and gasoline mixed 50/50.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Here's that book again.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Got to love it.  That's one big
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      book.  It will stop a nine-millimeter bullet.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I believe it.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  So that's $415, okay, for
      everything that I just mentioned, and that's a lot,
      okay.  That's a lot for 415.  And the MSB people,
      that's $62 off.  So that's about 350 plus shipping for
      the MSB people.  So you get your entire MSB discount --
      I mean, you get your entire MSB first-year membership
      back instantly if you join it just to get the alcohol
      stuff from me, and then you can be making cheap fuel.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome.  So the question
      everybody's wondering right now, when's it going to be,
      do you think, that you're going to have this new enzyme
      thing, this Constellation or whatever it was called?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, probably about a month,
      probably about a month just before summertime.  Just
      when it's nice weather so you can put it out and let
      the -- let it work outside for you at the right
      temperature.  It doesn't have to be 85 or -- it doesn't
      have to be stuck at 85.  It just has to be 85 or
      warmer.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Okay, I got you.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  So in between 85 and 100 is just
      fine for it.

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Episode 873 - Part 2

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           JACK SPIRKO:  You know, there's two things I want
      to say about this before we move on and cover all this
      other technology you're here to talk about today.
      Number one, I don't want people to discount the larger
      implications on biofuel of eliminating that energy
      input to the process.  That's my -- I think it's
      earth-shattering because now I've taken a major energy
      input and I've eliminated it.  I haven't reduced it.
      I've eliminated.  It because maybe you said in some
      cooler climates, maybe I have to warm it up, but just
      time of the year brewing, 85 degrees is pretty easy to
      come by in most of the country.  The other thing about
      this is when it comes to doing stuff in the summer, I
      don't do a lot of my beer brewing in the summer because
      standing over a pot of 180 degrees that I'm holding
      there for a mash period is not fun when it's
      110 degrees out.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  I've eliminated that completely.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I've eliminated the inconvenience,
      the sweating, and I've eliminated the energy input so I
      think it's huge that you've done that, Steve, and I've
      never even heard of this before.  So thanks for getting
      that information out there and getting a supply of the
      stuff.
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           STEVEN HARRIS:  I'll get some down to you so you
      can do the same thing and tell the people about it.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome, awesome.  I'll tell you,
      the other thing is you mentioned Monsanto.  And if
      you're getting something that only they had access to
      and it does something good, that's two birds with one
      stone for me because they're my least favorite people
      in the world, and I love to see good done.  So that's
      awesome.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, I'm really trying to bring
      it to you.  I'm also the only person in the world right
      now that has a video that shows you how to get the last
      bit of water out of your alcohol with zeolite.  Zeolite
      is like the little ceramic bead that absorbs water.
      You can only get 90 percent alcohol out of the still
      and you need 95 percent to mix completely with gasoline
      so it will run in your car.  So you throw in these
      beads of zeolite into your alcohol, it absorbs the
      water and then you pour the pure alcohol out and you
      mix it with gasoline.  There's no sections on the
      internet in how to use a molecular sieve called zeolite
      3A on how to do this with alcohol.  I mean, it was only
      to the big boys.  And let alone my video shows you then
      how to take those beads and regenerate them so you can
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      use them over and over like a thousand times and how to
      do it safely.  Because if you don't do it safely, you
      burn your house down.  So I'm the only person with a
      video that does that.  And I'm going to be bringing on
      the video with the Constellation SSF, and I'm the only
      person in the world with a video that shows you
      step-by-step how to do the saccharification of starches
      over to sugars and then ferment them and do alcohol
      process.  And if you just want to know how to convert
      sugar over to alcohol and distill it into moonshine or
      fuel, you can go to IMakeMyGas.com right now and there
      will be a video at the top upper left.  Just click on
      it.  It will play.  It's 23 minutes long.  It's free.
      It will show you everything on fermenting your own wash
      and then distilling it and you'll see me mix it with
      gasoline.  You'll see everything right there for
      nothing.  So that video, I just give away.  And so that
      about wraps it up on alcohol.  Again, the stills are
      available at IMakeMyGas.com.  They will be shipping in
      about one week.  And there will be links on
      Solar1234.com, and I'm really trying to knock it out of
      the park for you guys with this because this is
      something you can make at home and put directly into
      your tank and drive on it without modifications and,
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      you know, really tell those people who hate us who we
      buy oil from to go screw themselves.
           JACK SPIRKO:  And I mean, we're not talking about
      making 100 gallons a week here or something like that.
      But your still is table top like a coffee maker plugs
      in it up on a timer from Walmart for a couple bucks can
      turn out a reasonable amount per week, especially now
      that I don't have to sit there and boil all this stuff.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  That's the other thing I did with
      this little alcohol still.  Like you said, it's the
      size of a coffee maker.  It does one gallon of wash at
      a time.  I'll show you how to automate it with a timer
      so you can set it before you go to work and let it run.
      When you come home from work, you can set it, let it
      run during the evening.  You can set it before you go
      to bed.  So you can get -- you can be doing
      distillation three times a day for you with no input.
      And again, if you ever did alcohol distillation before,
      you got to have one of those like tall columns that you
      see on TV and a big pot.  You got to sit there and
      babysit it.  You got to watch the temperature at the
      top of the column, make sure it's the right
      temperature, adjust the flame up and down.  It's a
      pain, okay.  This little electric still with a timer
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      just makes it easy, and that's what I'm all about.  I'm
      making it easy for you.
           JACK SPIRKO:  What would you say -- before we move
      on, because we are going to talk about all these other
      technologies here.  What would you say is the
      reasonable output for one still a week?  Not taking the
      fermentation into account once I have the wash because
      I can get that going in batches, right?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Right.
           JACK SPIRKO:  What can I do with one still a week?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Gallons, a couple gallons
      depending how fast you're running everything else.  The
      thing is the still's only 200 bucks.  If you try to go
      and get a two-and-a-half-inch column still, that's a
      tall one.  It's only going to produce half a gallon or
      less an hour, maybe a quart an hour at 190 proof.  And
      so that's going to be 650 bucks.  So for the price
      of -- you can get three of my stills for the price of
      those stills, put them all on the same darn timer and
      let them run.  And so you're producing, you know,
      10 gallons a week right there and that's 10 gallons of
      your own fuel that you made in your house.
           JACK SPIRKO:  And if we did the math on the
      energy, it doesn't take very much energy.
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           STEVEN HARRIS:  No.  In fact, if you can get --
      I'll show you where to buy sugar really cheap.  They're
      called salvage grocery stores.  You can get it less
      than 10 cents a pound.  I got a customer that got
      1900 pounds of sugar for 114 bucks.  That's 155 gallons
      of 200 proof ethanol he got for 114 bucks.  You throw
      on a little bit of money for the distillation, the
      electricity.  I mean, you're talking two bucks a gallon
      and less if you get your sugar at less than 10 cents a
      pound.  And doughnuts are going to be even cheaper.  So
      you're looking at, you know, from a buck to a buck
      fifty for your own gallon of ethanol fuel that will run
      your car.  Before you start yelling at me, "It's going
      to eat my fuel system" and all this, look, this is
      stuff you drink, okay.  You drink it.  It doesn't --
      you know, it's not sulfuric acid.  It doesn't eat your
      throat all the way down.  You don't disappear from the
      inside out like a phaser blast, okay.  If it's not
      harming the tissue of your throat, it's not going to
      harm the stainless steel and components in your fuel
      system.
           JACK SPIRKO:  And once we've done the whole thing
      with the zeolite and all, we can dump this straight
      into the gas tank.  Do we run it straight?  Do we run
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      it with a mix of gasoline?  What's the right ratio?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  The easiest way to do it, I show
      it from the video.  I'm revealing the secrets from the
      video because I love your people so much.  Say you got
      eight gallons of gasoline in your tank.  You just go
      add two gallons of your own ethanol to it and just
      start driving.  So you don't have to mix it first and
      then pour it in.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I got you.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Just make sure you got enough in
      your tank and then you just pour it in the tank and
      away you go.  It mixes absolutely instantly.  It's
      called it's fully miniscopal (phonetic).
           JACK SPIRKO:  But I'm looking for more of the
      ratio, how much gas I've got in and how much ethanol I
      add.  So about a quarter-to-one ratio then?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  No, you can do one-to-one.  You
      can go up to one-to-one, but start with four-to-one,
      then go to three-to-one, then go to two-to-one.
           JACK SPIRKO:  See how it runs.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Then go one-to-one.  If you have
      any problems of a stall, the sputters or whatever, just
      put some more gasoline in and away you go --
           JACK SPIRKO:  Okay.
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           STEVEN HARRIS:  It's really not rocket science.
      It used to be rocket science, but I'm making it kitchen
      science just for you.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome, awesome.  The still is
      awesome, dude.  It just sits there.  I think anybody
      that walked in your house would figure you're making
      coffee or tea or something.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Oh, yeah, exactly, exactly.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Anyway, let's move on because we
      were going to cover a whole bunch of stuff here and
      what works, what doesn't work, the insider's secrets.
      You worked at Chrysler.  You worked in their hydrogen
      fuel program.  You're a chemist.  So you know some
      things that we generally don't hear about.  So one
      thing we skipped over last time is another type of
      alcohol called methanol.  Tell us about methanol.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Don't confuse the two, methanol
      and alcohol.  Now, methanol is actually corrosive to
      aluminum, okay, and you have to have a special fuel
      system all the way through your car to run on methanol
      and it's kind of bypass.  I got some good books on it.
      Methanol is also called wood alcohol.  If you drink
      this alcohol, it's the one that makes you go blind.
      It's a simpler alcohol.  It's a grade alcohol.  It
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      burns nice.  It would be great fuel for the nation.
      It's actually more simple to manufacture on a
      petrochemical scale.  It's poisonous to ingest it and
      it's poisonous if you spill large amounts on your skin.
      But guess what?  So is gasoline.  Gasoline contains
      benzene.  Benzene is a huge carcinogen, so you don't
      want to spill gasoline on yourself either.  So handling
      methanol, no different than handling gasoline.  So it's
      corrosive to some metals.  You got to have a special
      fuel system.  It's not really a fuel you can make at
      home.  I actually have a book.  I'll put a link to it
      on Solar 1234.  It talks about how you can distill
      methanol and other liquids out of wood.  Wood, W-O-O-D,
      as in the stuff you cut down.  And you can get methanol
      out.  You can get turpentine out and a whole family of
      stuff called terpenes come out of it, which can be a
      fuel.  But the thing is just for looking forward for
      you guys.  It can be synthesized.  Methanol is pretty
      straightforward to synthesize, not on a home scale, but
      if you got really good chemical knowledge, it can be
      synthesized directly from the gases that are made from
      a gasifier.  So the previous show, I talked about the
      gasifier from ALL Power Labs.  It's the best gasifier
      on the planet.  You throw in your wood or you throw in
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      your biomass scraps and it combusts it, quote-unquote,
      with a deficiency of air so it doesn't go full
      combustion and produces carbon monoxide and hydrogen.
      This is called syngas, and this is the building blocks
      for a lot of everything in the petrochemical business.
      So it can be made directly into methanol.  And so there
      is potential for this in the future.  There is the
      potential of using methanol in the future, and this is
      more something for me to tell you if you hear something
      on the web about it or you get interested in it, it's
      not there yet for you.  Your car can't really quite
      handle it.  So if someone is trying to sell you magic
      beans and a magic cure-all for your energy with
      methanol, don't buy it.  It's not there for you yet.
      If you really want to know all about methanol, I have
      this entire book called Biomass and Methanol.  It's not
      a paint-by-numbers book.  It's not a kindergarten book.
      It does cover the subject well.  It's at USH2.  I'll
      put it in our link in the show notes at Solar1234.com.
      So that pretty much finishes off the subject of
      methanol and leads into another cool subject.  Have you
      heard people putting like xylene and acetone into their
      fuel tank?
           JACK SPIRKO:  Yeah.
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           STEVEN HARRIS:  The fuel economy and everything.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I've heard that.  I've heard these
      things you're supposed to put on.  It's supposed to
      make hydrogen and cut your fuel usage.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  I'll cover that in a minute.  I'll
      cover that in a minute.  But just the pills you put in
      your gas tank or adding xylene, you've heard of it.
      Anything you've heard about going to Home Depot and
      getting a gallon of xylene or acetone and you put two
      tablespoons of it into your fuel tank or whatever, it's
      all BS, okay.  There's more xylene in your gas --
      gasoline is a mixture.  It's a family of chemicals
      dominated by benzene, okay.  It's got all the other
      families in there including xylene.  So your little
      teaspoon you're adding ain't doing nothing, okay.  It's
      nothing, nothing you can add to your fuel tank that is
      going to improve your fuel economy.  The only thing you
      can add to your fuel tank is ethanol that you made
      yourself, okay.  And that improves your fuel economy
      because you made it.  You didn't have to go buy it.
           JACK SPIRKO:  And you're burning it.  It's not
      making the gas -- it's not making your car useless gas.
      It's giving the car fuel.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  It's giving the car fuel, that's
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      right.  And the same thing, anything dealing with
      magnets on your fuel line, anything with fuel line
      heaters, we're going to keep your gasoline up before it
      goes into the car so it can atomize better, baloney,
      okay.  BS, okay.  You really want, I'll tell you the
      secret, guys.  Do you know what an internal combustion
      engine is?  It's the same thing as a cannon, okay, only
      the cannon throws its piston away every half cycle.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Correct.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  That's what your car is.  It's a
      little itty-bitty cannon that goes off multiple times a
      second, okay.  All it's doing is squirting in fuel with
      air, compressing it, igniting it, bam!  That goes down
      the piston, okay.  There's really not much magical
      stuff in there to make it go bang differently, okay.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I mean, just speaking as a former
      mechanic, when you squirt that gas in there and the
      sparkplug ignites, it's going to burn at the
      temperature that gasoline burns at.  The temperature it
      was at when it was ignited isn't going to reflect in
      the burn temperature at all.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Right.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I've never seen gas burn cold.  Like
      if I take gas that's 30 degrees and dump it on me and
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      light myself on fire, it still hurts really bad.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  The gasoline you're pouring on
      yourself is 100 degrees or 30 degrees, it's going to
      hurt you real bad.  You got any tornado vortex air
      spinners or anything that makes a twirl of your air.
           JACK SPIRKO:  It says "vortex."  It has to work.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  One, it's a restriction, okay.
      You might as well put a sock in your air intake to make
      it harder for the -- the piston coming down is pulling
      air from the outside to the air inlet, to the air
      filter all the way through the intake docks, all the
      way through the -- all the way through the manifolds,
      you know, and then by the valve and into the cylinder.
      Then the valve closes, the cylinder pushes it up.  And
      for one thing, if you think any vortex is making it
      through the valve closing the cylinder going up, you've
      got to be crazy, okay.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Completely agree.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  It's not doing a damn thing except
      putting a restriction on your air intake and actually
      costing you fuel.  So that's completely out the window.
      I wanted to cover that.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I guess your theory is if I put a
      blower on a motor, I can increase horsepower.  Of
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      course, when I increase horsepower, I increase fuel
      utilization.  So this is basically a horsepower
      restrictor.  I believe we all have one of those.  It's
      got five toes on it.  It's called your right foot.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, exactly, exactly.  I mean,
      literally if you want -- I mean, it's a long story and
      I'll cover a little bit on hydrogen, but if you really
      want to save fuel, you put a block of wood underneath
      your gas pedal so that the furthest you can push your
      pedal down is so you go 55 on a flat, level highway,
      okay.  And so you can only accelerate as fast as your
      foot goes down against the block of wood.  You can only
      drive 65 on the highway because your foot can't push
      down any further on the block of wood.  That will give
      you more fuel economy increase than you can possibly
      imagine because it's all in your foot.  When I was at
      Chrysler and we had to do the EPA stuff, you know, the
      sticker on your window that says 18 miles a gallon?
      That rating actually came up a vehicle on a stationary
      dynamometer in a test cell and you had to do something
      called drive the line.  And there's this trace on a
      screen of acceleration and deceleration, and there was
      this box that follows the trace.  And we had one guy
      who was a freak of nature in the entire company who
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      would drive that trace because he could manage it and
      keep it right towards the lower end of that box the
      whole time.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Oh, wow.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  And that would dictate the fuel
      economy that went on to the sticker for that vehicle,
      okay.
           JACK SPIRKO:  So that's how the city, highway.
      It's obviously not as much variation on the highway and
      they have a whole bunch of variation on the setting.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Exactly.  But we had a guy that
      had eye/foot coordination that was like a freak of
      nature, okay.  And he could drive that trace
      explicitly, and that's how the EPA rating went.  So
      this really goes to show you your fuel economy is
      dictated by your foot, okay.  And if I throw -- if I
      take three Tornado Vortex spinners and I throw them
      into your air inlet, what I've done is I've basically
      put a sock in your air inlet and I've reduced the
      amount of air going into your cylinder.  And what
      happens, Jack, like you said with a blower, you
      increase the pressure.  You can add more fuel, you can
      go faster, right?
           JACK SPIRKO:  Correct.
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           STEVEN HARRIS:  But it would probably put a
      restriction on your air inlet.  You get less air in so
      you can put less fuel into it because the O2 sensor
      will detect a change and automatically adjust the
      fuel-to-air ratio, and you basically derated your
      engine so you can't drive as fast.  It's just like you
      put the block of wood underneath your accelerator.  You
      can't push down as fast.  You can't put enough fuel
      into it.  You're going to start hurting your fuel
      economy.  It's all in your foot and people just don't
      get it.
           JACK SPIRKO:  On the efficiency thing, let's move
      on to your next thing.  It's something I'm a big
      believer in, and that is diesel.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Diesel engines, okay.  I'm going
      to cover diesel engines in a little bit more detail,
      but what I really want to cover in diesel engines,
      there's two ways to really run them.  It's called waste
      vegetable oil and straight vegetable oil and biodiesel.
      So there's two ways, but three words.  Waste vegetable
      oil is the ugly, gooky stuff that comes out of the
      Chinese fryer restaurant with all the food particles
      burnt in it and everything else, okay.  This is waste
      vegetable oil.  Once you take this and you run it
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      through a bunch of filters -- and you want to filter it
      down to one micron because that gets everything out of
      it.  Then you have a nice, clean oil.  You don't want
      to screw up your fuel injectors on your diesel engine
      because those are almost as expensive as the engine
      itself.  In fact, the fuel injectors is the reason the
      diesel engine works as good as it does.  Once you
      filter your vegetable oil, it's now called straight
      vegetable oil or SVO.  This will run in a diesel engine
      directly and it will run well, not so much in the cold
      weather, but definitely in the warmer weather.  In
      fact, what you do, whether you're cold or warm, you
      start the truck on diesel, fill the switches in the cab
      so you turn off the diesel fuel and then you run on the
      straight vegetable oil.  And then when you stop, you
      turn off the vegetable oil and you let it idle for a
      minute on diesel fuel before you shut it down.  Okay.
      So when you find really good people talking about
      straight vegetable oil on a diesel vehicle, Steve
      Harris is telling you this works.  Make sure it's
      filtered down to one micron.  Now we have something
      called biodiesel, and what that is if you take your
      straight vegetable oil, you add methanol and you add
      lye, which is sodium hydroxide, and you mix it up in a
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      big tank, okay.  Typically there are 110-gallon tanks
      or they're off the ground and everything and they got a
      mixture in it.  And what happens is you get a
      separation of the glycerin and the rest of the process,
      and you separate out the glycerin, sell it to someone
      who wants to make cosmetics or make soap or you make it
      with water and pour it down the drain.  And what you
      have left over is called, quote-unquote, biodiesel.
      And this is called B100, okay.  So B, as in biodiesel,
      100 percent.  Sometimes you go to a gas station and it
      will say B5, as in F-I-V-E.  And what it means is it's
      five percent biodiesel, 95 percent diesel.  You can run
      a straight biodiesel.  You can mix it with diesel and
      any combination and you can run on it.  Biodiesel runs
      good in the wintertime as well.  So if you're looking
      to make your own biodiesel, biodiesel works.  It's
      called the methanol lye process or the methanol sodium
      hydroxide process.  It involves glycerin separation.
      Typically a biodiesel plant, you can make it, if you
      want, out of five-gallon pails, but it's more
      economical to get something that's 110 or 300 gallons
      and do it all at once.  Biodiesel vegetable oil,
      straight vegetable oil, biodiesel, it is a dirty,
      messy, stinky process, okay.  You are going to get your
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      hands dirty, your clothes soiled.  You're going to be
      working with stuff that you just look at and you go
      "ick," okay.  It comes out of the fry bins.  It stinks.
      It smells.  And so if you can get a source of this
      waste vegetable oil from restaurants like places you go
      and the people you know and you get a good, constant
      stream of it coming towards you, you got a good source
      of biodiesel or straight vegetable oil, you're in the
      money.  You're in the business.  You will be driving
      cheap, and you can sell the excess to your friends at
      50 cents less than the price of diesel right now, which
      is $4.40 here in Pennsylvania a gallon and away you go.
      But like I said --
           JACK SPIRKO:  The commercial biodiesel, there's a
      pretty decent savings right there right now.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  No, they're not.  The commercial
      biodiesel people are stupid.  They're brain dead
      stupid.  Instead of selling it for 25 cents less than
      the price of diesel, they go, "Oh, this is biodiesel.
      It's friendly for the environment.  We're going to
      charge you 50 cents more so you can drive green."
      They're idiots.
           JACK SPIRKO:  They're not doing that everywhere.
      I mean, I just had a guy e-mail me that there's a place
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      down in the Dallas area where he just filled up his
      truck with biodiesel for 50 cents less.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  There we go.  One, he's in Texas,
      and people in Texas are a little bit smarter, okay.
      They don't have the regulations on them.  My future
      energy stuff is all going to be in Texas because what
      you can do on your land what you want to on your land,
      and you got less regulations, less government in it.
      If someone is selling biodiesel for 50 cents less per
      gallon, God bless him.  They just hooked themselves
      into a gold mine.
           JACK SPIRKO:  And it's a great story, too.  So the
      guy's there filling up his truck and he sees this guy
      with a military truck and he walks over and starts
      talking to him and he's wearing a TSP shirt, and it
      turned out they were both listeners to the show.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  (Laughter)
           JACK SPIRKO:  Our community is growing.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  If you really love the TSP, get
      the coffee mug and the T-shirt.  So you can hook up
      with your fellow TSP members around the world.  That's
      pretty good, Jack.  You know, a guy walks across the
      road in Texas and meets another TSP listener.
           JACK SPIRKO:  There's a lot of us out there, but

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Episode 873 - Part 3

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      on the diesel thing, I mean, I think that we can
      produce the biodiesel for less than the petroleum-based
      diesel.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yes, you can because it's free.
      Your base component that you're getting it is free.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I mean to say commercially, we can
      do it.  Just like you said up there, apparently they're
      not doing that.  I was not aware of that, so ...
           STEVEN HARRIS:  There's a couple of places here in
      Pennsylvania that have -- and in Michigan that have
      biodiesel and they sell it at a premium.  It's like my
      crap doesn't stink.  My biodiesel is better than
      diesel, so I should charge more for it, like you
      idiots.  See, the big thing that makes up the price of
      biodiesel is the price of the methanol.  You got to buy
      methanol.  You got to buy it from a chemical supplier.
      Some people go down to the auto parts store and they
      buy Heet, H-E-E-T, the stuff that you pour into your
      fuel tank in case there's water that gets into it.  You
      look on the back of it.  It's straight methanol.  You
      can make your first batch of biodiesel with that.  It's
      a little expensive, but I mean, hey, it's priceless
      once you've done it and go.  I understand it, okay,
      that's priceless, okay.  Now you can go to a chemical
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      supply house and you can buy it by the 55-gallon drum.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Sure.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  And it could be anywhere from $3
      to $6 per gallon.  It was $6.  Back in 2008, it was $6,
      6.50 a gallon for methanol, but now it's pretty -- it's
      going to be cheaper because we're at a record low price
      for natural gas we'll talk about in a minute.  And the
      methanol is made from natural gas.
           JACK SPIRKO:  One thing I'd like to point out here
      that I think is a big deal is that part of what makes
      this work is the inherent efficiency of a diesel motor
      no matter what we do with it.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  The next line of my notes right
      here says diesel engines.  My 8,000-pound Dodge diesel
      pickup getting 18 miles per gallon gets better fuel
      economy than a Toyota Prius.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Absolutely.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  I get 18 miles to the gallon.  My
      truck weighs 8,000 pounds.  The Prius gets 47 or
      50 miles to the gallon.  It weighs 3,000 pounds, okay.
      I get better fuel economy per pound than a Prius.
      Diesel engines hold the world record for mass-produced
      engines for efficiency.  The newest diesel engines like
      the newest Cummins from Dodge, I believe the newest
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      Vortex from Ford, the newest engines from especially VW
      and Daimler, they're called high-pressure direct
      injection engines.  They're literally shooting the fuel
      in there between 20 and 30,000 psi.  They have what's
      called a higher brake center efficiency, which means
      they have a higher efficiency.  They're more efficient
      than a proton exchange membrane fuel cell.  Oh,
      hydrogen fuel cell of the future.  They're so
      efficient, blah, blah, blah.  Guess what, guys?  Diesel
      engines, we make 10,000 of them a day just in a couple
      states around Michigan, okay, let alone the production
      per day around the globe, probably 100,000 of them per
      day.  We make 100,000 of them per day, at least
      100-horsepower, 200-horsepower each, and they have a
      higher thermal efficiency than a proton exchange
      membrane fuel cell.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I've always felt that way just
      straight up.  I drive a Jetta diesel TDI .  I don't
      drive it much anymore because I'm up in the hills now.
      But I drove that in town down in Dallas all the time,
      and I would tell people, you know, they would say what
      kind of mileage do you get?  I would get 45, 44 or 45.
      I would talk to a guy with a Prius, and sometimes they
      would lie and say, "I'm getting 50," and I would say,
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      "Not driving it the way I drive my car."  I drove that
      car hard.  I put that German engineering to the test in
      that car every day.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah.
           JACK SPIRKO:  And it still was pulling off
      40 miles, 44 miles to the gallon.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, that's with your foot.  Now,
      Jack, just imagine you put a piece of wood underneath
      your accelerator, you'll get even better.
           JACK SPIRKO:  No.  I think 44 I'm doing my part
      for the environment.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, yeah, exactly.  And plus now
      you got performance, you got pulling power, you got
      speed, you can go up a hill.  The Volkswagen TDIs are
      just absolutely fabulous vehicles, and this is from me
      being an engineer at Chrysler.  I remember when I was
      at the Arizona Proving Grounds when Daimler was taking
      us over and we were renting the proving grounds to BMW.
      And BMW was there and we were talking about the merger
      and how pissed off we were.  It wasn't a merger.  They
      bought us out.  And I looked at the BMW guys and said,
      "You'll have to teach us how to swear in German so we
      can swear at the Daimler people."  And one of the
      German guys that didn't speak English too well, he goes
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      swear and he goes "swen, swen," I forgot the guy's
      name, but he had a German name.  I teach you how to
      swen (phonetic) to Daimler very good.  So they taught
      us how to swear in German, the Daimler guys, really
      good.  But that about covers it for diesel.  I mean,
      great engines, I mean, 300,000 miles and they're just
      starting to get broken in.  I got 287,000 miles on
      mine.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I look at it this way.  If I
      turbocharge a gas motor, its reliability goes down.  If
      I turbocharge a diesel motor, its reliability and
      longevity actually goes up.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  That has to do with the way the
      engine works because you can run a diesel engine lean.
      You can't -- you always got to run a gasoline engine in
      a fuel-to-air ratio unless you're running on hydrogen.
      If you're running gasoline or natural gas or propane,
      you got to run on a straight fuel-to-air ratio.  So the
      fuel is always dictated by how much air is in there.  A
      diesel engine isn't.  A diesel engine sucks in a full
      cylinder of air, no fuel, pushes the piston out,
      compresses it all the way to the top.  The air
      temperature's 15, 1600 degrees Fahrenheit at the very
      top of the stroke, and the very top of the stroke, it
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      squirts in as much diesel needed as you're demanding
      with your foot.  So whether you're squirting in a mouse
      fart of diesel or you're squirting in enough diesel to
      fully burn, when that diesel hits that hot air, it
      will -- it combusts instantly, and this is done at top
      dead center and it pushes the piston right back down.
      So you can run lean on a diesel.  You can't run lean on
      a gasoline engine, which is what -- it's called a
      stratified charge.  A gasoline engine is a homogeneous
      charge.  You've got a homogeneous mixture of air and
      fuel, and it always has to be that way.  A diesel
      engine, it's called a stratified charge, and that's how
      we get really great efficiency with hydrogen, which
      I'll cover after natural gas and propane.  It's because
      hydrogen has a high fuel-to-air ratio, and you can run
      really lean with hydrogen.  That's why diesel engines
      are just so darn awesome.  It's because not only the
      fuel is a lot simpler, but it's the way the engine
      runs.  Now, natural gas for cars, are you ready?
           JACK SPIRKO:  Absolutely.  You believe this is our
      future for cars, right?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Oh, it is.  Natural gas is the
      future fuel for all of us.  It is not only can you make
      natural gas, all of our landfills are making natural
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      gas.  You fart natural gas, okay.  When you fart, it's
      natural gas coming out, CH4 methane, okay.  What stinks
      is hydrogen sulfide and some other things, some
      mercaptans and some other things what makes your farts
      stink.  Natural gas has no odor to it.  They have to
      add a mercaptan to it, so it actually has an odor to it
      so you can actually detect it.  Natural gas is in all
      of our oil wells.  There's big reserves of it
      underneath.  It's all over the ocean floor.  It's
      called methane hydrate or methane clathrates.  Remember
      when the Gulf spill, the oil spill in the Gulf?
           JACK SPIRKO:  Yep.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  You put this great big top hat
      over it and the thing kept on floating up to the
      surface.  It's because that was 5,000 feet down, and at
      that temperature and pressure, the bottom of the ocean,
      methane becomes a solid.  It becomes an ice.  Sometimes
      it's called methane ice or natural gas ice.  You can
      literally hold it in your hand down there.  And the
      thing is all this natural gas is coming out with the
      oil going into the top hat thing meant to plug it, and
      it's less dense than water.  So it was trying to float
      this whole thing up and I go how ironic.  The fuel of
      our future is stopping us from plugging up the fuel of
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      our current day that we're having a problem with in the
      Gulf of Mexico.  I found that incredibly ironic.  But
      the oceans of the world, especially near the coast, are
      just -- you think there's natural gas under us, and
      we're only 30 percent land mass.  Think of all the
      natural gas under the ocean, and it's in a format
      that's easier to get in solids.  And so methane
      clathrates, methane hydrates, it's 10 to 100 times an
      amount more than we know about, little more than what
      we don't know about, more than what we know about what
      we have here, and that's a fraction of what we don't
      know about.  So natural gas is just a great, great
      fuel.  It's made of one carbon and four hydrogens.  I
      mean, right now, you can go to Brazil and you can buy a
      Fiat.  I hate Fiats, too, especially now that they
      bought Chrysler.  You can buy a Fiat in Brazil.  And we
      should have these things here.  It's stupid that we
      don't.  You can put any ratio of alcohol and gasoline
      in a liquid tank and it's got a natural gas tank that
      you can fill up, too, and the car will run off of the
      alcohol, the gasoline and the natural gas
      simultaneously, or it will run off just the natural gas
      or it will run off just a liquid tank.  It's any
      combination thereof.  And if you go to CNGprices.com,
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      I'll have a link at Solar1234.com, you can see a map of
      the United States and all of the CNG fuel pumps across
      the country.  And if you look right now, do you know
      what the price of compressed natural gas equals to a
      gallon of gasoline in Oklahoma right now, Jack?
           JACK SPIRKO:  No idea.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  75 cents.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Wow.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  You can fill up in Oklahoma right
      now with a natural gas vehicle at the equivalent of
      buying gasoline at 75 cents a gallon.  Today is
      April 3rd, year 2012, and right now on the commodities
      exchange, when I looked last week, natural gas was
      $2.28 a million BTUs, an MMBtu.  That's a world-record
      price.  It was as high as $12 in the middle 2000s.
      When I started my gasification work in the '90s, it was
      2.35.  So take 15 years off for inflation, go from 2.35
      to 2.28, you got the world's cheapest fuel right now is
      natural gas.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Unbelievable.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Like I said, it's a million BTUs,
      2.28 for a million BTUs.  How many BTUs for a gallon of
      gasoline?
           JACK SPIRKO:  I don't know.
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           STEVEN HARRIS:  Point 12.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Wow.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  12 percent of MMBtu.  So it's like
      having 2.28 for the equivalent of 8 gallons of gasoline
      on the exchange market right now.  That's how good
      natural gas is.  Our children, grandchildren will be
      driving on natural gas, let alone us driving on it.  So
      it's great, and I'm also a huge believer of if you got
      natural gas at home and you're a prepper, you want an
      unlimited source of energy if you don't live in
      California.  You want to have a natural gas generator,
      nevermind a regular generator or a diesel generator and
      storing diesel fuel.  You know how hard it is to store
      gasoline?  You got to put the additives with it.  You
      got to keep it airtight, locked up, keep the sunlight
      off of it.  Even then it will break down over a couple
      years.  So it's hard to store enough fuel.  If you got
      a natural gas line and generator, you have an infinite
      supply of fuel.  Unless you're in California and
      there's an earthquake, they shut off the natural gas
      lines for obvious reasons.  I've been through the
      blackout of 2003.  I wrote a book on it.  The natural
      gas never failed, okay.  The natural gas system is
      powered by natural gas, of all things.  The pumps, the
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      compressors, they're all self-powered.  And I asked a
      guy who worked for the natural gas company who had been
      there for 35 years, and I said, "How long would it take
      for the natural gas system to fail if all the people in
      the planet just disappeared?"  He goes, "Six months or
      more," okay.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Wow.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  So with no one tending it, okay,
      like there's a plague or something, you'll still have
      all the natural gas to run a generator.  You can buy
      natural gas whole-house generators at Lowe's and Home
      Depot and Costco.  Your local electrician will install
      it for you.  You got to put a breaker box in.  If you
      want just a generator that runs off of natural gas
      itself like a little Honda or little Yamaha engine
      generator, generator sales, G-E-N-E-R-A-T-O-R
      S-A-L-E-S.com, great company.  I got no affiliation
      with them.  They're just great people.  I have natural
      gas generators from them.  I'll put a link at
      Solar1234.com.  If you go to Solar1234.com, I'll put a
      link to my video of my natural gas generator running
      off of natural gas from a weather balloon floating
      above the generator, okay.  I got a 12-foot weather
      balloon above my head floating above me, and I'm
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      starting and stopping my natural gas generator off of
      the natural gas up in the balloon.  And I filled it up
      with my line of natural gas in my shop.  So for your
      preppers at home, your infinite source of generator
      power is natural gas, and then your best source after
      that is diesel because diesel stores for an extremely
      long time.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I mean, on the storage life of
      natural gas, it's natural gas.  It's pretty much --
           STEVEN HARRIS:  It's forever, okay.  All the
      natural gas you're pulling out of the ground is tens
      and hundreds and millions of years old.  So I think if
      you put it into a tank in the line, it's going to stay
      CH4 for a little bit of time.  It's a tight molecule,
      not that easy to break apart.  And diesel can run on
      natural gas or propane.  In fact, there are performance
      kits out there for diesels right now that run off of
      propane.  You can buy them off the shelf.  What it is
      is for performance, though, okay, make your diesel more
      powerful.  But if you keep your foot out of your
      carburetor, you'll get good fuel economy and you'll
      drive cheaper on propane with diesel.  Great deal of
      diesel engines in garbage trucks and other trucks
      cities have and buses.  They're diesel vehicles running
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      on natural gas.  What they are, they run on about five
      or ten percent diesel, and the rest of the fuel comes
      from natural gas tanks.  So a diesel engine can run on
      natural gas.  You got to run five or ten percent diesel
      along with it to get -- you have to have the seed tank
      to get the ignition, and the natural gas comes in
      through the air intake.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Now making normal vehicles run
      natural gas is really not difficult to do, right, so
      why do you think there hasn't been more use of natural
      gas?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  That's easy.  Again, it's the same
      thing with alcohol the same thing with hydrogen.  You
      run into the chicken or the egg prospect, which one
      comes first.  If you have a vehicle that runs off
      natural gas, in order to get a bunch of fuel pumps out
      there to supply natural gas, you have to have a bunch
      of fuel pumps out there, so the industry will start
      making natural gas vehicles.  That's one of the
      reasons.  The other reasons was natural gas is fluffy.
      It takes up a lot more space, okay.  So if you got a
      gas tank that holds 27 gallons of gasoline, you take
      out that gasoline tank and you replace it with natural
      gas tanks and you're going to compress those natural
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      gas tanks up to 3,000 psi.  You're going to have the
      equivalent of nine gallons of gasoline.  It's called
      GGE, gallons of gasoline equivalent.  You'll have nine
      GGE of natural gas in there where you had 27.  So if
      you could drive 600 miles, you can now drive 200 miles
      and people didn't like that.  Didn't like having only a
      natural gas vehicle.  Plus there was a big push to do
      this.  They did this all during the late '80s and early
      '90s.  A lot of electric and utility companies went
      over to natural gas and people complained, oh, it
      doesn't have the horsepower and they thought it wasn't
      as powerful as your gasoline vehicle.  And it's not.
      It's about 80 percent of the power of a gasoline
      vehicle because, again, it's going in pretty fluffy.
      One, you're squirting in liquid fuel.  The other one,
      you're bringing in a gaseous fuel.  So it's not as
      dense.  So some people complained about that.  It's
      like, oh, I got to have my horsepower.  I don't want to
      have natural gas.  Of course they weren't
      considering -- they didn't have the idea of, okay, I'm
      paying $4 a gallon for gasoline now and natural gas is
      75 cents, hmm.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Do you think the energy companies
      have anything to do with it as well?  Because I've seen
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      recently some companies reducing their exploration in
      natural gas and increasing it in petroleum fuels
      specifically because they make more money pumping oil
      than gas.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Well, I mean, natural gas is burnt
      off.  It's called stranded natural gas.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Yeah.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  There's so much stranded natural
      gas coming out of wells that they don't have the
      pipelines to get it to market.  They'd get it to market
      if they could, but they can't.  So they have to flare
      it off, and it's a waste byproduct and they keep oil
      and they don't keep the gas.  So no, the big boys have
      nothing to do with it.  I don't believe -- I worked in
      the higher echelons of the automobile industry.  I
      don't believe in this conspiracy stuff at all between
      any of the companies.  I just believe in the stupidity
      of all the big companies and all of us.
           JACK SPIRKO:  You know, let me bring up a quote
      there, "Never attribute to malice which can be -- that
      which can be explained through incompetencies and
      idiocy."
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Exactly, great quote.  Who said
      that?
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           JACK SPIRKO:  I don't know, but whoever they are,
      I love them.  It's an old quote that's been around
      forever.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  It's so true.  It's just so true.
      It's just stupidity.  And the president of Chrysler,
      not Iaccoca.  He went to GM.  He's at the tip of my
      tongue.  Anyways, great guy, I love him.  Anyways, he
      was being asked by the media in the 1990s why doesn't
      Chrysler make an electric vehicle?  He goes, oh,
      Chrysler can make an electric vehicle, I guarantee it.
      We can make the world's greatest electric vehicle that
      there is.  It's just that we're going to sell our
      electric vehicle like Mattel sells their cars,
      batteries not included.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Yeah.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  We're in the business of making
      cars, not in the business of developing battery
      technology or manufacturing battery technology or
      implementing battery technology.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I got your source on this.  It was a
      guy named Robert J. Hanlon of Scranton, Pennsylvania,
      who was inspired by Occam's razor, and he coined this.
      And it's called Hanlon's razor, and the exact quote is,
      "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
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      explained by stupidity."
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yep, there you go.  And you know
      what, Jack, you know what, you and I are all about
      really, one of the things that makes this show really
      good is we try to eliminate or remove as much ignorance
      or stupidity that there is in our audience.  Both you
      and I try to bring things to the people that are
      hands-on.  This is the way it works.  This is how you
      use it.  This is what you can do.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Absolutely.  And this is why it's
      not working now, and this is what could be done to fix
      it, or in some cases, it's pie in the sky crap and it
      ain't never going to work.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Exactly, exactly.  I mean, and
      that's what -- that's one of the reasons I love your
      audience.  They respond so good.  They just eat it up.
      It's like I didn't hear about this.  Now I know, now I
      can do it.  And that's one of the things we all should
      do to better our society is we give of ourselves to
      educate someone else, even if you're talking to a
      five-year-old kid, okay.  I was talking to some
      teenager the other day.  I was saying what type of job
      are you looking for?  I want to do this, I want to do
      this.  I told him don't think of just in terms of what
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      type of job you want to have or who you want to work
      for.  I want you to think about what type of business
      you're going to create, okay.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Absolutely.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  And start thinking about that.
      Start thinking about being independent.  Sure, work for
      everyone you can.  You learn so much.  But then keep on
      taking all that knowledge and putting it and make
      something.  Start your own business one step at a time.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Absolutely.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Anyway, back to the subject of
      natural gas.  The tank pressures are increasing, okay.
      Now, 5,000 psi tanks are off-the-shelf.  It used to be
      3,000 psi was the standard.  Then it was the 3600.  Now
      5,000 psi tanks are available.  So we're getting up
      towards being one-third to one-half the energy density
      of gasoline.  Now, 10,000 psi tanks are available.
      They have to be special-ordered, but linking composites
      will wind a carbon fiber tank for you at 10,000 psi.
      Natural gas of 10,000 psi is the same amount of energy
      per unit of space as gasoline is.  So if you can go
      600 miles on a gasoline car, you'd be able to go
      600 miles on a natural gas, if the tank is at 10,000
      psi.  But the thing is a 10,000 psi compressor right
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      now is not an off-the-shelf item.  It would cost
      $100,000 or more, and that's what really limits you
      from having -- fueling up at home right now off of
      natural gas.  I mean, we can do the conversion.  If we
      get a tank for maybe a thousand bucks or more and maybe
      $500 in parts and your car can run off of gasoline and
      natural gas, either/or at the same time.  I can show
      you how to do it.  The hard thing is that you need at
      least a $4,000 compressor to compress the natural gas
      from the line pressure off that of your car, and that's
      buying a scuba compressor, okay.  And that's a cheap
      one.  $8,000 is a good one.  If you want one that can
      fill up -- if you want one that you can rebuild when it
      wears out, you've got to buy one that's big enough for
      like a small fleet of 10 or 15 vehicles, and that's
      costing you $15,000.  And there was a company called
      Fuelmaker that had this little compressor that sat on
      the wall, and it would slowly compress up your vehicle
      overnight.  And it costs like $6,000, and after 4,000
      hours, it turns itself off forever.  It literally
      killed itself so it can never run again because it was
      considered disposable.  And they went out of business,
      okay.  They had a good product even though it was
      expensive, and they went out of business.  So, hey,
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      guys, if you're listening to Steve Harris right now,
      you've got a good compressor, you know how to make a
      3,000 or 5,000 psi compressor, if you think you can
      make it cheaper and you can bring it to market with
      your machine shop, I'll distribute it.  I can
      distribute the thing all day long.  So there's an
      opportunity for anyone listening go to
      StevenHarris.net.  There will be a link on
      Solar1234.com.  You get my e-mail and you can e-mail me
      and say, hey, I can make compressors.  Okay, fine, I'll
      distribute them for you.  Then we can start getting
      more and more people hooked on natural gas like we're
      getting them hooked on ethanol right now.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I think we pretty well clobbered
      natural gas.  The next thing on your list is propane.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  The next thing is propane, and
      believe me, I could talk for another hour on natural
      gas.
                Vehicles run on propane very well.  Just look
      at any forklift, okay.  Almost any forklift runs on
      electricity or it runs on propane.  There's a huge
      amount of items on the market for running engines off
      of propane, and coincidentally the same things also
      work pretty good for natural gas.  But in looking at
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      the life of a forklift engine, engines that run on
      natural gas or propane have a great life.  The fuel
      burns so pure.  The oil hardly gets contaminated.
      There's very little wear on it.  And so these engines
      just go forever.  You can go to e-bay, you can type in
      "propane carburetor", "propane regulator" or "forklift
      propane," you can see all the parts that you can use to
      run your vehicle off of propane.  Impco, I-M-P-C-O, is
      a big manufacturer of these parts.  There's no timing
      changes needed on propane.  You got to do a little bit
      of a timing change on natural gas for your vehicle to
      run off of it.  Propane runs like gasoline, 15,
      12 degrees being (inaudible) center.  A great deal of
      vehicles in Australia run on propane.  People from the
      land of Aus write to me and say, oh, my car runs on
      propane right now and everything else.  Now,
      technically to run on propane, I've put propane tanks,
      100-pound propane tanks on the back of my pickup truck,
      my diesel, and I've run the propane into my diesel
      engine at the same time.  I had my own Steve Harris
      controller to do it.  But technically, you got to have
      a separate tank, a Department of Transportation rated
      rated, DOT tank rated to hold propane.  And they make
      them.  They find them out there.  You can find them.
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      And you're supposed to pay your road tax, Jack, if
      you're running on propane.  If I go down to a propane
      station, of which there's one around me, I'm actually
      taxed on that propane as if I'm taxed on gasoline.  The
      thing is if you're in the country, you got what's
      called a 500 or 1,000-gallon pig.  You know what one of
      those are, Jack?
           JACK SPIRKO:  I know exactly what that is, yeah.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Okay.  It's the big white tank
      sitting outside of your house.  If you got one of those
      at your home, you might consider running off of propane
      because you're buying that propane pretty cheaply,
      especially when you buy it in the summertime.  And you
      can fill up your propane tank in your vehicle off of
      your pig.  And you can probably drive anywhere between
      a buck 25 and 2.50 a gallon gas equivalent off of your
      propane from your propane pig.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Wow.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  In the city, I wouldn't run off of
      propane because I don't have a supply of it.  But if
      you got a 500 or 1,000-gallon pig for your furnace or
      your stove, hey, you got a bulk supply being delivered
      to you on a regular basis at a pretty darn good price.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome, awesome, awesome stuff,
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      Steve.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Propane's not as economical as
      natural gas.  Natural gas is still cheaper, but the
      thing is people don't understand, propane's a liquid
      under pressure.  I could get natural gas at 35,000 psi.
      It's still a gas.  You take propane up to about 250,
      and it becomes liquid and that's at 100 degrees
      Fahrenheit.  It becomes liquid at 85 degrees
      Fahrenheit, probably about 15.  So just about a little
      bit of pressure and it goes into a liquid.  So liquid
      has a lot more energy density to it than gas does.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Got you.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  So again, no computer changes.
      You just need to have a good source of propane.  You
      got a propane pig, you can do it.  It's more economical
      than gasoline.  It's something that you can do.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome, awesome.  Well, I mean,
      once again, we've eaten up like more time than we
      usually allocate.  So I think we're going to have to
      wrap here.  So I'm going to have to bring you back to
      talk about hydrogen and some other things in the future
      if you're willing to do that.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, I'll come back for my
      8th appearance and I'll talk all about hydrogen, all
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      about fuel cells.  Fuel cell cars, fuel cells in your
      home, what works, what doesn't work, what you can
      expect to see in the future.  So you can go, yeah, this
      will work for me, and yeah, it won't work for me.  And
      I will debunk all the stuff for hydrogen.  But let me
      just one word before we go, before we stop.  Anything
      regarding hydrogen that's under hood, you're pouring
      water into it, anything called HHO, OOH, hydroxy, guys,
      it's all BS.  It's all magic beans.  Stay away from it
      like the plague.  I know you're looking for stuff to
      save fuel because it's 4 bucks a gallon.  I'll talk
      about it in detail.  Jack will have me on as soon as he
      can, and we'll go over hydrogen in detail.  But the
      word to the wise right now is stay away from anything
      that's claiming to give you a fuel economy increase
      that has anything to do with hydrogen.  Because until I
      get into the subject with you, you're going to be
      throwing your money away.  With that, I'm so happy to
      be here.  I really love bringing this stuff to you.
      Again, I really love helping you in bringing up your
      level of information and giving you the best
      information that I can.  All the show notes are at
      Solar1234.com.  Links to everything I talked about will
      be at Solar1234.com.  Don't forget the ethanol.  The
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      distiller is available now.  Go to IMakeMyGas.com link
      at Solar1234.com and the TSP MSB 15 percent discount
      applies.
           JACK SPIRKO:  How long is that going to apply for
      folks that might be listening in the future?  I know
      you can't just keep doing that.  You do it on your
      books and DVDs because the margins there make it more
      possible to do, but on this, it's more of a mechanical,
      physical product, more cost on your end.  So how long
      are you going to go with that?
           STEVEN HARRIS:  I'll see it until Cinco de Mayo,
      May 5th.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Until the 5th of May, folks, you
      have to take up that offer on the distillation kit.  I
      can't wait to get my hands on that new enzyme thing
      that you have, and I really look forward to making some
      alcohol fuel without having to fire up the propane
      burner for a change.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Yeah, yeah.  And who knows, Jack,
      you might make a good beer, too.
           JACK SPIRKO:  I don't know.  We'll have to check
      that out and see if it creates any kind of off flavors
      or anything doing things differently.  I'm not sure.
      We'll have to -- we'll give it a whirl and see what it
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      does, man.  Hey, man, thanks for being back on the
      show.
           STEVEN HARRIS:  Oh, thanks for having me.  Really,
      it's a treat.  It's a pleasure to talk with TSP all the
      time.
           JACK SPIRKO:  Awesome, awesome.  Well, folks, with
      that, this has been Jack Spirko along with Steven
      Harris helping you figure out how to live that better
      life when times get tough or even if they don't.

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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/893
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 06:42:49 PM »
Handsely, I have nothing on your crazy cool transcribing skills

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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/893
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 10:03:56 AM »
Episode 873 - Part 1, 2, 3

Still need to read through your work and add timestamps. But here is the header stuff


The Survival Podcast http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com

SERIES:     TSP
EPISODE:  873
DATE:         April 4, 2012
TITLE:         EEPISODE-873- STEVEN HARRIS ON ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES PART 2






SOURCE FILE:
http://www.survivalpodcast.net/audio/2012/4-12/epi-00873-steve-harris-on-energy-part-2.mp3

FILE ARCHIVE:   
http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/harris-on-alternative-energy-part-2

DESCRIPTION:
Steven Harris returns to TSP for his 7th visit. Today he joins us to discuss various alternative energy technologies including, ethanol, bio diesel, methanol, propane  and more.

Steven Harris is a consultant and expert in the field of energy. He is the founder and CEO of Knowledge Publications, the largest energy only publishing company in the USA.

Mr. Harris came to his current position to do full time work on the development and implementation of hydrogen, biomass and solar related energy systems after spending 10 years in the Aero-Thermal Dynamics department of the Scientific Labs of Chrysler Corporation.

Steve is always full of great ideas, knowledge and projects we can use to improve our personal energy independence and today is no exception.  Once again we ate up the entire hour with out covering Steve’s entire outline so he will be back for Part 3 in this series soon.


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“Revolution is You” by Gregg Yows

           
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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/893
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 07:41:55 PM »
Thanks Hootie for cleaning it up for me.  I really enjoyed doing it and the information really sticks in my mind better than just listening to the show on my daily dog walks when my mind tends to wander. 

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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/893
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 08:43:31 AM »
I really enjoyed doing it and the information really sticks in my mind better than just listening to the show on my daily dog walks when my mind tends to wander.
Agreed

Ep 873 (part2) is all cleaned up and posted.  :happydance:
Now I just need to finish transcribing 840 (part1)... These new members are quick. I just can't keep up ;D

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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/897
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 10:18:58 AM »
Finished Ep 840...  onwards to Ep 893.
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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/897
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2013, 04:45:15 PM »
Finished Ep 840...  onwards to Ep 893.

Crap.... I mean 897....
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Re: Transcribing Ep 840/873/897
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2013, 02:18:16 PM »
Been working hard these last 2 weeks, finally got done with Ep 897...   my fingertips literally hurt from typing.

Another show of Jack Spirko and Steven Harris is completed.   :happydance: