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Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« on: December 21, 2008, 11:29:38 PM »
So I am working assembling a first aid kit to be carried in my EDC bag. The FAK will be contained in a Pelican 1020 case.

Here is the list I have so far:

2 Pairs of Gloves
a couple of safety pins
Tweezers
Antiseptic Wipes
Neosporen
Gauze Pads
Tape
Bandaids

Moleskin
Benadryl
Pepto
Tylenol

Any other suggestions? Please keep in mind the size restrictions of the container and that is mainly for mild and possibly moderate emergencies not squad level triage.  ;D

thanks,

Jeremy

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2008, 05:11:37 AM »
Oi.  Maybe a small or medium sized burn gel pad?  =-]

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 09:06:12 PM »
Small Ace bandage.  (Sprained ankle, wrist, etc.)


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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2008, 11:14:10 PM »
Coban Self-Adherent Bandage



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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 11:57:17 PM »
Kerlix.

Ya know, if you'd posted that list on ZS without kerlix you'd have been crucified. ;D

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2008, 12:00:08 AM »
Kerlix.

Ya know, if you'd posted that list on ZS without kerlix you'd have been crucified. ;D

I know, I have at least a duffle bag full because of that. :-\

It can't hurt.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2008, 02:23:04 AM »
I know this is going to sound weird, but putting a maxi pad in there wouldn't be a terrible idea.  Especially one or two of the "travel" maxi pads (they come in smaller pouches).  That's for wounds, not feminine emergencies  :D .

Also - The Premsyn PMS pills (the ones with pamabrom, pyrilamine maleate, AND acetamenaphine) are the best pain meds that I've ever gotten over the counter.  They're almost as good as Vicodin.  And they will help somebody sleep if that person is in pain.  Don't just buy any pills, though.  Make sure all three of those ingredients are there.  I'm telling you, they work really, really well, regardless of your gender.

And saline eye drops.
And q-tips.

What kind of an antiseptic wipe do you have?  Betadine would be a good addition, if what you've got is just alcohol.

I love medical kits.  :)

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2008, 02:33:20 AM »
I know this is going to sound weird, but putting a maxi pad in there wouldn't be a terrible idea.  Especially one or two of the "travel" maxi pads (they come in smaller pouches).  That's for wounds, not feminine emergencies  :D .

Also - The Premsyn PMS pills (the ones with pamabrom, pyrilamine maleate, AND acetamenaphine) are the best pain meds that I've ever gotten over the counter.  They're almost as good as Vicodin.  And they will help somebody sleep if that person is in pain.  Don't just buy any pills, though.  Make sure all three of those ingredients are there.  I'm telling you, they work really, really well, regardless of your gender.

And saline eye drops.
And q-tips.

What kind of an antiseptic wipe do you have?  Betadine would be a good addition, if what you've got is just alcohol.

I love medical kits.  :)

Not weird at all, I hate to admit it (almost) but we carried them in our trauma bag when I was in EMS.

Eye drops, good idea.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2008, 08:16:21 PM »
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(1) Nasopharyngeal Airway (30FR Robertazzi Style)
(1) 14ga x 3 ¼ Catheter (sterile)
(1) Alcohol Prep Pad
(2) Safety Pins (2”) multipurpose
(1) Duct Tape (2”x100” roll)
(1) Set Nitrile N-Dex Gloves
(1) Three gram tube of Surgilube

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 11:45:40 PM »
A little overkill on what he is asking, everything this kit is designed for would need to be transported to definitive care, including major surgery to even survive.  I have never seen a patient with a tension pneumo that didn't need major surgery.  Great kit, but overkill for the original poster's needs.

You've got the start of a great kit, you may want to just look at a store bought kit and then assemble something from that.  Here is a link to a basic first aid compliment http://www.ready.gov/america/getakit/firstaidkit.html

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2009, 05:55:30 PM »
I carry athletic tape instead of that gauze tape. It sticks better for me.

You can wrap an ace bandage around the outside of the case if it won't fit on the inside.

I also carry a bottle of new-skin. I figure one bottle has the same coverage as a box or two of bandaids and is in a smaller container.

I also carry a new wrapped t-shirt for something massive.

Burn cream. I don't know why, but man do burns hurt!

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 08:00:56 PM »
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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 08:41:50 AM »
I made a tutorial video about the V.O.K. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSuSXSo5Pk

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 02:28:40 PM »
  Awesome video!!!!

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2009, 06:11:35 PM »
Also - The Premsyn PMS pills (the ones with pamabrom, pyrilamine maleate, AND acetamenaphine) are the best pain meds that I've ever gotten over the counter.  They're almost as good as Vicodin.  And they will help somebody sleep if that person is in pain.  Don't just buy any pills, though.  Make sure all three of those ingredients are there.  I'm telling you, they work really, really well, regardless of your gender.
They also go by the tradename Pamprin. A word of caution though, Pamabrom is a diuretic so do not administer to anyone in pain or with a headache due to heat, dehydration or other fluid loss. The drug works like a champ when you are bloated, not so great when you need to keep all your fluids. :)

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2009, 07:09:57 PM »
A little overkill on what he is asking, everything this kit is designed for would need to be transported to definitive care, including major surgery to even survive.  I have never seen a patient with a tension pneumo that didn't need major surgery.  Great kit, but overkill for the original poster's needs.

You've got the start of a great kit, you may want to just look at a store bought kit and then assemble something from that.  Here is a link to a basic first aid compliment http://www.ready.gov/america/getakit/firstaidkit.html

I don't know, I think Yeager may have the right idea. I haven't got a dedicated "blow out kit" yet because of the cost, but the actual blow out kits, with the stuff like Quick Clot (which honestly, I haven't done enough research on to see what the medical professionals think about this product), could actually save a life. I've pretty much stayed away from first aid kits in the past, because most are just full of stuff like band aids and tylenol, which might help your comfort level with minor things, but doesn't do too much for you in actual life threatening conditions. I definitely need to put some research into these more advanced first aid items, and see if it is something practical for a non professional to use, and the training needed to use it. I had rather, given the choice, carry the stuff that might keep me or someone else alive, than the stuff to cure minor inconveniences. Not to say that the other stuff isn't good to carry as well. Lately I have started thinking more about the basic first aid kit as well.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2009, 07:46:20 PM »
I got a dedicated blow out kit for two reasons: (1) this kit can actually save a life instead of just provide band aids, and (2) the normal boo-boo kit things like band aids are pretty much lying around the house.  What isn't lying around the house is the blow-out kit stuff.

I made my own blow-out kit and then saw Yeager's.  I would have got his if I had known about it.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2009, 10:12:02 PM »
I haven't got a dedicated "blow out kit" yet because of the cost...

I will send you a copy of my medical DVD and two VOKs (one to open and use while watching the video and the other to keep) in exchange for an unbiased review to be posted here.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2009, 10:52:56 PM »
I saw a first aid kit in Sam's club today for less than $20. It was remarkably complete. The box was about 18x10x5, so it was a pretty good size, but not for carrying. You could certainly do worse than grabbing it and maybe switching a few of the items in or out. At least reading through the extensive contents list might give you a few ideas.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2009, 12:03:53 PM »
I will send you a copy of my medical DVD and two VOKs (one to open and use while watching the video and the other to keep) in exchange for an unbiased review to be posted here.

That is a very generous offer James, but I believe that would work out way more in my favor than it would in yours. I looked on your website, and if I was looking at the right things,that's about $110 worth of stuff. I just wouldn't feel right taking all of that just to write a review. I think that there are some EMT's on this board that would be better qualified to review such things than I.

That being said I watched your you tube video and found it very informative. One good point I think you brought up was that even if I don't know how to use some of the stuff, someone could be around that does know how. There are of off duty EMT's, RN's, and doctors who could be nearby and offer their help. That's a good point, and one that I have never stopped to consider.

I thought a lot about first aid kits last night (yeah, I know, I got no life) and decided that maybe I should focus a lot more on that area very soon. And although I understand Jack's "threat probability matrix", and that is probably a good idea for 99% of preps, I believe I'm going to go just the opposite in my first aid preps. Yeah, cuts ,scrapes, headaches, etc are a lot more likely to happen, you can usually suffer through a headache long enough to get to a store to get some Asprin, or wrap a small cut up with a napkin to stop the bleeding until you can get a band-aid on it. The kind of stuff like is in your VOK, is the stuff you will REALLY NEED if you need it.

I do believe that I will probably order your VOK in a few weeks for full price. I want to put in a raised bed, and take care of a few other things here first. I believe I still got $25 to send to the NRA too, to keep my word from another thread we were posting on.  I think a kit like your VOK is a necessary item that most people should at least keep in their car (most of this stuff could be just as useful in a car wreck), or a daypack in the outdoors. especially if you do anything for recreation outdoors on public land during hunting season, not all gunshot wounds are the result on an intentional firefight.

The bottom line is that I believe everyone should have at least one of your VOK's (or a similar kit). I ,for one, will get the one from your website instead of somewhere else. I would like to support people on this forum, especially if they are offering a good quality product for a fair cost, and it appears, just from what I seen on the video, that you are. I will gladly post a review of the VOK on here for free when I get one. It may just be one to start with, and I may not open each individual item, but I will offer a review. Maybe on the dvd too. I really need to set down and get a wish list going for my ideal medical kit. But some things that I would like to include that you don't see in most cheap commercial kits are:

1. Your VOK
2. Quick clot
3. a quality set of EMT shears
4. the blood pressure set from your site
5. a thermometer

This is going to be a full size first aid kit, and most of these items will be carried in a vehicle kit. As for the actual kit itself, I'm thinking about carrying it in either something like a jansport daypack, or maybe something like a  large fishing tackle box to keep smaller things organized.

Thanks for your ideas James, I think you are a great asset to this community.  +1


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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2009, 02:38:27 PM »
Regardless, the offer stands.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 03:47:35 AM »
Hi James,

I just checked out your website. I wish I could take some of your classes, they sound great! I live in Washington (state) can you recommend any training groups/companies out this way?

Thanks!

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2009, 10:18:12 AM »
Hi James,

I just checked out your website. I wish I could take some of your classes, they sound great! I live in Washington (state) can you recommend any training groups/companies out this way?

Thanks!

We do classes all over the place. We have a BUNCH in the Vancouver area and clases are forming in the Washington area (sign up for our newsletter on the front of our site).

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 11:25:50 AM »
I would add vet wrap (better/cheaper than kling or ace bandages)  comes in cool colors too, LOL


Asherman chest seal for the VOK


Duct tape.. because paper gauze tape does NOT stick to wet blood

And a couple of bottles of sterile eyewash saline for irrigation.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2009, 02:29:21 PM »
I agree about the vetwrap.  We have tons of it, and I absolutely love it.

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2009, 06:07:44 PM »
We do classes all over the place. We have a BUNCH in the Vancouver area and clases are forming in the Washington area (sign up for our newsletter on the front of our site).

Thanks! I signed up for the newsletter on your site :)

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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2009, 10:50:22 AM »
I made a tutorial video about the V.O.K. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSuSXSo5Pk

Great kit! IMO I would like it a little better if it had at least one more pair of gloves, an occlusive dressing, a 28fr NPA (in addition to the larger one, as larger ones have a habit of popping out on smaller people). If you are using the 14g angio for needle decompression I would actually consider a 12 or 10gauge in its place. Use the finger of one of the gloves for the one way valve. Duct tape works well but coban may work better for this application. Also do you have any way to ventilate a person? I'm not talkin mouth to mask...... yeeuck.

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2009, 05:15:36 PM »
I like to keep antibiotics in my kit. A good cut or scrape can get deadly in 72 hours. I also keep super glue works great for cuts that will not close on their own or will not stay closed burns like hell when you applie it. I have had to use it a couple of times for cuts that needed stitches.

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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2009, 01:26:05 PM »
Alright, I love EDC stuff, and decided to try to get a small kit together with what I have to try to meet what you have to work with. I do not have a case like you stated, but I do have a 1030 and an i1010 so I picked the smaller for an everyday carry type kit.

Here is my thoughts. This is for everyday carry, meaning there is a 99.9% chance you are going to be in a town or city. So most of the common things that will occur will be pretty minor. Every day type stuff like cuts, scrapes, head aches, stomach aches, etc. Anything larger is going to interrupt your daily grind and you will need a larger kit. For me, this is even smaller than my edc first aid kit, as mine is in a small flat tackle box. But enough of that here is what I got into a smaller kit.....

Just the basics is what I pulled out of my larger vehicle kits and tried to get this going.






Like I said, it's just the basics. There is more than enough room to add more of the large bandaids, and another four or five smaller bandaids. I can't see needing more of the burn gel than what's pictured for edc as anything larger will need real medical attention than what you can provide with this size kit. What I did see on the link you posted for the picture of the case was that yours has a carbiner. Those things are perfect for hooking the smaller rolls of tape to for easier access.



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Re: Need help assembling an EDC first aid kit.
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2009, 01:24:27 AM »
Nice kit psychofish, but put it in a Ziploc and it will be half the size and weight (unless you're trying to protect it against incoming RPG-7 rounds).  That can fit into any EDC bag or a glove compartment no problem.