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Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« on: October 02, 2008, 08:21:53 AM »
WTH?!! :D   Witness Protection folks aren't gonna be happy ;)
One minute, it's NorthEastCentral PA, I notice a bit of some Joisey'ish, then a full dose of "born and raised Texan". Not sure of your history, but wow, what a mix.

Damn, I thought I had it bad: NorthWestCentral PA, Georgia, DC side of MD and now West Virginian......!



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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 08:34:02 AM »
LOL...  I made a comment to the same thing one day.  It's the ever changing accent!  =-D

I think the more animate he gets about topics, the more he regresses one way or another.  ;-]

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 12:00:14 PM »
It's not easy for us relocated Yankees. I grew up on Michigan then lived in Austin for 2 years, then Long Island, NY, and now back in Austin hopefully to stay.
I have found that if you are around folks with a "southern" accent or a "New York" accent you tend to slip into it even though it's not your natural speech pattern.

Even though I am back in Texas it has taken me a while to even start saying "Ya'll" again since I mainly work with Yankees or non-Texans.

I do notice the accent more when Jack is telling us he's a "Texas Redneck".  ;D

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 12:06:34 PM »
Hell, Jack.  I didn't even think to add the Honduran english......THAT took some getting used to back in the 80's.  Now, just call any help line and you'll get worse :-\

I'm guessing Soto Cano AB (Palmerola?) area, right?

[I spent 696 days in Honduras (I kept volunteering to go back cause the beer was cheaper), my wife even spent 6mo there.]

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 10:53:23 AM »
I have noticed the following.

When I am talking to someone I gravitate to their accent.  This is not on purpose and seldom is seen as such.  It has been a huge gift in the sales industry.

When I am really pissed off, I go north eastern.   I lived in PA a long time and managed NYC, Boston, etc. as well so that is the source of that.  So when I talk about government, economy, etc.  well, you get the idea.

Hick drawl is my "native accent" if I have one.  Grew up mostly in Florida till we relocated to PA during my high school years.  Been in Texas for more then a decade (with a trip to the north for three years in the middle), hung out with country boys in the Army, etc.  When I am calm, relaxed and just myself there is always some drawl to my speak.  The calmer, the more relaxed the more.  Hench with I talk about farming, hunting, fishing and stuff I love it seems to be more pronounced.

I can not over state how unconscious this all is.  Now when I am being entertaining and making fun or someone or something I do it with intent, I think that is clear when I do it, the rest of it just happens.  I guess I am a multi cultural redneck?  :D

On Honduras I was actually in a place called Macura in the Aguan River Valley in a tent city.  Those guys at Soto Cano AB had it a hell of a lot better then us.  We were building a road where there wasn't a road, so you get the idea.  ;)

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 11:28:01 AM »
'dat 'splains it! :) Subconciously you have no idea where you are. :D
Just makes for an easier listen: like having a cast of thousands at your fingertips!

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Keep on keepin on!

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 12:36:19 AM »
Episode 68 sounded a bit new yorky to me!! I left my home area in 1982 and also tend to a neutral accent which picks up the local "twang", although 2 mins on the phone to my folks and it all comes back...

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2008, 06:04:12 PM »
Lol I was just noticing this today. Jack starts out with kind of a texas drawl and then when I gets ramped up and ranting about the gubmint I noticed another accent, not sure where its from I keep wanting to say "Jersey" but I dont think thats quite it.

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 08:30:55 PM »
Lol I was just noticing this today. Jack starts out with kind of a texas drawl and then when I gets ramped up and ranting about the gubmint I noticed another accent, not sure where its from I keep wanting to say "Jersey" but I dont think thats quite it.

Well I was actually born in Red Bank New Jersey, but who is paying that close of attention,  ;)

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 08:40:42 PM »
Lol I was just noticing this today. Jack starts out with kind of a texas drawl and then when I gets ramped up and ranting about the gubmint I noticed another accent, not sure where its from I keep wanting to say "Jersey" but I dont think thats quite it.

Well I was actually born in Red Bank New Jersey, but who is paying that close of attention,  ;)

You and Kevin Smith. :)

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 11:07:04 PM »
Lol I was just noticing this today. Jack starts out with kind of a texas drawl and then when I gets ramped up and ranting about the gubmint I noticed another accent, not sure where its from I keep wanting to say "Jersey" but I dont think thats quite it.

Well I was actually born in Red Bank New Jersey, but who is paying that close of attention,  ;)

You and Kevin Smith. :)

-- Jeremy

Who's Kevin Smith?????? ???

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 08:42:31 PM »
I've noticed the "changing accent" several times.  Jack got a REALLY thick "hick" accent when he was talking about his Arkansas neighbors in today's episode!  too funny!


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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2008, 05:41:48 PM »
Funny, I have listened to a lot of the shows catching up this week and I did notice the accent changes :) I think Jack's idea was to appease his listeners, so maybe he uses his accent to win the hearts and minds of others :D

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2008, 12:15:35 PM »
hmmm..... Fuertes Caminos.....good stuff....

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »
I have noticed the following.

When I am talking to someone I gravitate to their accent. 

I noticed that I do the same thing.  I first noticed it when I was 10 years old on vacation in South Carolina.  I picked up a slight southern accent after 3 weeks.  My job has me often teaching children from the inner city.  After a few weeks working with this population I start to pick up their accent and slang.  It gets really interesting when I switch to working with children from the suburbs right after!!   ;D

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2008, 10:29:12 AM »
hmmm..... Fuertes Caminos.....good stuff....

Not many people have any idea about that.  Were you just commenting about me mentioning it or were you in Hondo, ect during that time?

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2009, 07:37:24 AM »

When I am talking to someone I gravitate to their accent.  This is not on purpose and seldom is seen as such.  It has been a huge gift in the sales industry.


I too have noticed I do the same thing, although it is entirely not on purpose. I was born in north GA, moved to southeast Louisiana when I was about 12, and stayed there till I got out of high school. I worked on the south side of Atlanta for awhile, so my accent is totally screwed up, sometimes to the point of being downright funny.

Now back in north GA since 98, my friends still give me a hard time over my accent, especially if I'm overheard on the phone with someone not from this area.
They say I've coined a new dialect called "cajun hillbilly ebonics"

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2009, 08:48:29 PM »
Jack -

You're not alone.  I'm a southern gal living out West for a long time now, but it only takes one phone call to get back in the groove.  I also think it has to do with empathy and relating to others.  I was in sales too and would naturally drift into other people's patterns of speech.  Once it was remarked that I sounded just like my clients from Bombay!  I was also told in London that I spoke "damn good English for an American"!  It's just kind of funny....

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2009, 03:52:59 PM »
I am taking an anthropology class right now at my university, and I am just now learning about what makes an effective cultural communicator, and this thing called "code-switching" was talked about quite a bit, and it reminded me of Jack, and this thread.

"Code-Switching" is the process of changing from one language or dialect to another.  The ability to do it makes a person a much more effective salesman, regardless of what they're "selling".

For example, Martin Luther King Jr. was very, very, very good at code-switching between Standard English, and African-American Vernacular English.  He sold his message to the populace and reached a far larger population than he might have, because of his amazing ability to code-switch in the middle of speech.

President Bush was terrible at it.  He may not have been a "stupid Texan," but his inability to lead his constituents to feel as though they were accompanied by somebody who cared during the 8 years that he was in power certainly did not help his popularity.

See, when we hear somebody speaking a dialect that we consider our own, we relax.  We trust a person more when we have the same accent, so to speak.  So the fact that Jack recognizes that his audience doesn't just exist in Texas, but also in Pennsylvania, and California, and New York, and so on, and is able to communicate with every one of us, during every single show, in a dialect that we can trust says a lot about his ability to lead in a way that doesn't make his fans feel as though they're being dragged by the collar, but rather that they're walking voluntarily with a friend.

Anyway, I thought that little bit of trivia was cool, and thought I'd share it.

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2009, 04:49:38 PM »
Maybe...but when he starts soundin' like a damn yankee, I still feel like whackin' him (kind of like a record that skips) so he'll drop that damned eastern accent. :D

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2009, 07:09:34 PM »

President Bush was terrible at it.  He may not have been a "stupid Texan," but his inability to lead his constituents to feel as though they were accompanied by somebody who cared during the 8 years that he was in power certainly did not help his popularity.


This video is clearly by someone with an axe to grind but have a look, one is the Bush I voted twice for as our Governor and one of the greatest Governors to ever serve the state of Texas.  I want to know where the hell Governor Bush went to when he became President Bush?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVilAlCBYc&feature=PlayList&p=112A671EFB1E2605&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2009, 07:51:30 PM »
This video is clearly by someone with an axe to grind but have a look, one is the Bush I voted twice for as our Governor and one of the greatest Governors to ever serve the state of Texas.  I want to know where the hell Governor Bush went to when he became President Bush?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVilAlCBYc&feature=PlayList&p=112A671EFB1E2605&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

See, that's just irritating and worrying.  He looked and sounded SO confident, and intelligent, and clear-minded in those younger shots.  TW says that he thinks 9/11 had something to do with his decline.  He might very well be right.  In any case, SOMETHING is happening to president Bush.  And as much as I dislike masters from any political party, I'd rather not see somebody who I used to respect go downhill so quickly.

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2009, 01:49:51 PM »
   I guess I am a multi cultural redneck?  :D


Love it!!

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2009, 10:30:19 AM »
I find Jack's changing accent amusing. Hmm, I wonder if Jack has a split personality.....

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2009, 09:32:55 PM »
  I guess I am a multi cultural redneck?  :D

As an Aussie, it's even harder to pin Jack's accent - sometimes sounds Texan, sometimes damnyankee. But I liked the self-description!

In Australia we call rednecks "bogans". Feel free to include that with your multicultural learnings.

I'd love to hear Jack imitate an Australian accent someday in the podcast.......... now that would be amusing!  :D

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2009, 08:44:21 AM »
Interesting topic. While I "discovered" the show a while ago (late to the forum) I listened to a lot of the older podcasts in  and out of order so and when you're listening in a vacuum like that, you find yourself wondering if the accent is really changing or is it you (me)? Glad to know others noticed it too. For the record, it doesn't bother me one way or another. It's a performance. When you attend a performance, you accept the show. Thus, I just figured it is what it is. Still, glad to have the opportunity to hear about other people's perceptions.

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2009, 09:17:48 AM »
i have a North Californian / Deep south accent. i slur my sentence into one whole word when i get excited or emotional. people have told me it may have taken weeks to months for them to finally understand everything i say.

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Re: Hey Jack, what's up with the changing accent
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2009, 01:05:03 AM »
Hey Jack, nice to know I'm not the only one with a "Wandering" accent.  :D

Seems whenever I'm talking to someone I pick-up their accent and mannerisms.

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