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Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« on: January 05, 2009, 10:13:26 AM »

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 10:27:53 AM »
I have seen this one before.  It really says alot about maintaining the Defensive Mindset.  Jeff Cooper's book Principles of Personal Defense really hits on the important stuff.  The book is very inexpensive and really drives home the point to always keep fighting and to fight before they expect you to fight.

If you do that, Good Guy has a better chance of coming out unscathed.  =-]

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 11:03:41 AM »
This was a great interview, although this guy certainly didn't act like a "victim."

I'm sure living with what he had to do would be hard, but thank goodness he had the means and the mindset to protect himself and his wife.

We are all a little better off with the two victimizers out of the picture.

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 12:15:47 PM »
Wow, that is crazy... great story though. Thanks for the link. It helps to keep things in prospective.

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 04:50:15 AM »
That was a good read.

On a side note, we had someone try to get in the house the other night.  Tina was home by herself because I was at work.  We live right on the edge of "the hood" here in our little town.  We've had a couple of incidents with people giving my wife trouble when she's been outside, but we've never had anyone actually try to get in the house.

She was watching TV when someone came up on our little deck at the front door and tried turning the knob as they were pushing hard against the door.  We have a small house, only about 1000 square feet.  The bedroom is right behind the living room where the front door is, it's separated by a wall & the door is only about 25 feet or so from the bedroom.  Not much room to defend.  Anyway, she said it kind of shocked her for a second but when they tried again, she snapped out of it & her first move was toward the bedroom & her AR which stays loaded next to her side of the bed.  Quick as she'd secured the AR & grabbed the cordless phone, she covered the front door with the AR as she dialed the police.

I give the police all the credit in the world, they were to the house in no time.  I guess he saw the police coming & headed down the street.  They caught him a few houses down.  She called me right after the police, & they had him caught by the time I'd been talking to her for a couple of minutes.  Turns out he'd done the same thing to a couple of other houses on our street & the other's had called it in as well, so they were already looking for him.  He's in the pokey now on other charges that were already pending & the police said if she didn't want to have to go to court & all the rest of it that they had enough to keep him locked up for quite a while anyway.

It really drove the point home to her that she needs to be prepared anytime & anywhere.  She's taking the personal security side of preparedness more seriously now & of course bugging me more than ever to go to the club so she can shoot her AR.  ::)

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 07:50:44 AM »
Wow DEV, I'm glad things worked out alright. I'm gonna make sure my wife reads your post. She's already proactive about home/personal protection but this really drives things home. Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 08:41:01 AM »
DEV, so glad it all worked out for you and your wife!  Can I ask, do you have a security system (like ADT or anything)?  I'd been procrastinating about putting the "This home protected by ADT" stickers for our system on all the exterior windows but after reading your post, I just went around the house and did it.  I figure anything that makes my place look less easy to break into is probably a good thing.  Up till your post, I figured "screw 'em, if they break in, they'll probably run when they hear the alarm" but then I started thinking about all the damage they could do in the first minute or two.  Thanks for the cautionary tale.

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 09:20:15 AM »
we had someone try to get in the house the other night.

That is terrible.  I'm glad your wife didn't have to shoot the guy because of the expense, legal hassle, and emotional trauma that would entail.  But I wish someone would have shot him.  It would help send a message to other people who might consider breaking into houses.

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 01:23:51 PM »
Glad your wife is ok! Makes me REALLY want to go and get a gun I'm comfortable with. We have a shotgun by the bed for home protection but that thing kicks like a mule. I'm only 5ft tall - little frame. I want something I feel like I can control. Someday....

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 01:31:47 PM »
Makes me REALLY want to go and get a gun I'm comfortable with. We have a shotgun by the bed for home protection but that thing kicks like a mule. I'm only 5ft tall - little frame. I want something I feel like I can control. Someday....

kimber -
hogue makes a nice short stock, and fore grip, for most shotguns. My mom, who is a slight bit taller than you, did this with her Rem 870. She can now handle it safely and comfortably. Also, look into low recoil shells. Just because it can handle a 3'' magnum doesn't mean you have to use it. I'd also recommend checking out a spec-op recoil stock for your shotgun. I've heard good things although I have not direct experience. These are relatively cheap upgrades (40-150 or so) and mean's you don't have to buy something new. Maybe my mom will chime in... lemme pm her...

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 03:24:10 PM »
Thanks y'all.  She was pretty calm about the whole thing, more so than I was.  I was ready to come home, she said she didn't really get upset until after it was over & she had time to think about it.  When I talked to her on the phone she was very calm & giving me a play by play of what the police were doing.  From what the police said, they think the guy was just looking for an easy place to hide since they'd been rolling around looking for him.

DEV, so glad it all worked out for you and your wife!  Can I ask, do you have a security system (like ADT or anything)?  I'd been procrastinating about putting the "This home protected by ADT" stickers for our system on all the exterior windows but after reading your post, I just went around the house and did it.  I figure anything that makes my place look less easy to break into is probably a good thing.  Up till your post, I figured "screw 'em, if they break in, they'll probably run when they hear the alarm" but then I started thinking about all the damage they could do in the first minute or two.  Thanks for the cautionary tale.
No, we don't have a security system & we've never even talked about getting one.  We bought this house three years ago, but I think we've decided to redouble our efforts to get back out in the country.  This is the first time we've lived in town in ten years & to be honest, we hate it.  We really want to be back out in the country.  I think a security system is an excellent idea though & I'm also going to install some automatic security lights.  All we have now are the two porch lights at the doors.

we had someone try to get in the house the other night.

That is terrible.  I'm glad your wife didn't have to shoot the guy because of the expense, legal hassle, and emotional trauma that would entail.  But I wish someone would have shot him.  It would help send a message to other people who might consider breaking into houses.
I hear ya TJ.  Honestly though, that's the last thing I would want because of the reasons you listed. 

Glad your wife is ok! Makes me REALLY want to go and get a gun I'm comfortable with. We have a shotgun by the bed for home protection but that thing kicks like a mule. I'm only 5ft tall - little frame. I want something I feel like I can control. Someday....
tash offered some good advice on the shotgun angle.  Knox stocks are top notch & I hear their recoil reducing stock really does work.  Put an 18" barrel on your gun & you have a quick handling, easy to use package.

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 06:09:18 PM »
Makes me REALLY want to go and get a gun I'm comfortable with. We have a shotgun by the bed for home protection but that thing kicks like a mule. I'm only 5ft tall - little frame. I want something I feel like I can control. Someday....

kimber -
hogue makes a nice short stock, and fore grip, for most shotguns. My mom, who is a slight bit taller than you, did this with her Rem 870. She can now handle it safely and comfortably. Also, look into low recoil shells. Just because it can handle a 3'' magnum doesn't mean you have to use it. I'd also recommend checking out a spec-op recoil stock for your shotgun. I've heard good things although I have not direct experience. These are relatively cheap upgrades (40-150 or so) and mean's you don't have to buy something new. Maybe my mom will chime in... lemme pm her...

Love the Hogue stock & foregrip.  Without it there is no way I could use the 870.  The original stock made it impossible to pull the 870 into the proper position.  The kick is worse when you can't snug the stock in correctly.   The 12"Hogue stock (youth stock) is even short enough to allow for a good recoil pad.  It's easy to change the stock, but it required a special tool to install the foregrip.  Keith at the gun shop took care of it for me on his lunch break - no charge.  (support your local gunshop :) )

Purists - please don't read the following   ;D

I sold the gorgeous walnut stock & foregrip (original equipment) for way more than the Hogue stock & foregrip cost. 

The low recoil cartridges are a godsend for practice.  My home defense cartridges are low recoil.  Hope this helps. 

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 06:23:55 PM »
Whew I am glad your family is safe DEV. She seemed to be pretty calm about everything. I am not sure if I would have had the presence of mind to get the phone.

I have to say though that hearing both your story and this fellas on the video makes me want to get a concealed carry even more than before. With hard times coming I am not sure how the civil climate may change.

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 04:47:25 AM »
Whew I am glad your family is safe DEV. She seemed to be pretty calm about everything. I am not sure if I would have had the presence of mind to get the phone.

I have to say though that hearing both your story and this fellas on the video makes me want to get a concealed carry even more than before. With hard times coming I am not sure how the civil climate may change.
Thanks & yeah, it's sad to say but I'm afraid things are going to continue to go downhill.  Sign of the times & all that.

She's pretty sharp, ex-EMT & current nurse.  She's learned to handle herself in pressure situations.  When we got married she loved to shoot but hadn't done it a whole lot.  I remedied that first thing. ;D  Ask her to see a picture of her baby & she shows you her Bushmaster... ::)

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2009, 01:54:20 PM »
Makes me REALLY want to go and get a gun I'm comfortable with. We have a shotgun by the bed for home protection but that thing kicks like a mule. I'm only 5ft tall - little frame. I want something I feel like I can control. Someday....

kimber -
hogue makes a nice short stock, and fore grip, for most shotguns. My mom, who is a slight bit taller than you, did this with her Rem 870. She can now handle it safely and comfortably. Also, look into low recoil shells. Just because it can handle a 3'' magnum doesn't mean you have to use it. I'd also recommend checking out a spec-op recoil stock for your shotgun. I've heard good things although I have not direct experience. These are relatively cheap upgrades (40-150 or so) and mean's you don't have to buy something new. Maybe my mom will chime in... lemme pm her...

Love the Hogue stock & foregrip.  Without it there is no way I could use the 870.  The original stock made it impossible to pull the 870 into the proper position.  The kick is worse when you can't snug the stock in correctly.   The 12"Hogue stock (youth stock) is even short enough to allow for a good recoil pad.  It's easy to change the stock, but it required a special tool to install the foregrip.  Keith at the gun shop took care of it for me on his lunch break - no charge.  (support your local gunshop :) )

Purists - please don't read the following   ;D

I sold the gorgeous walnut stock & foregrip (original equipment) for way more than the Hogue stock & foregrip cost. 

The low recoil cartridges are a godsend for practice.  My home defense cartridges are low recoil.  Hope this helps. 

Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm going to run all this by DH and see what he can do for me. It's a Remington 870 that we have now.  I'd also really like to get my 16yr old DD shooting too. Maybe with the stock modifications and the low recoil shells she'll be able to shoot too.
Thanks again everyone!!

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2009, 07:27:02 PM »
I don't know if you guys have ever checked out the Practical Defense Podcast by Alex Haddox, but I like it a lot. He has a several episodes near the beginning where he goes through securing your home, aqnd has several interviews with survivors of violent crimes.

http://www.alexhaddox.com/

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Re: Great Interview with Home Invasion Victim
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2009, 11:55:54 PM »
I don't know if you guys have ever checked out the Practical Defense Podcast by Alex Haddox, but I like it a lot. He has a several episodes near the beginning where he goes through securing your home, aqnd has several interviews with survivors of violent crimes.

http://www.alexhaddox.com/
Ha, good timing.  I just finished listening to those episodes.  They have some great tips in them & I'm pretty new to his podcast but so far there seems to be lots of good stuff to learn.