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« on: October 02, 2011, 10:47:50 AM »
Walstinking mart's best lie is low price guaranty.  The price for the same rifle varies from store to store.  Within 20 miles of each other.  Not to mention 300 miles.

Waynesboro ga.  $300.00
Soddy daisy tn.     $364.00
Dayton tn.            $378.00
Tiftonia tn.           $359.00


They don't match their own price in different stores.  I can't make this crap up.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 02:07:55 PM »
I understand Wally-World does an amazing job of analyzing demographics to do a number of "impressive" marketing tactics, including determining the price of a particular item for each community and even figuring out how many of each color of Barbie Doll they carry on the toy aisles. And, when one of those dolls is purchased, the inventory system automatically puts in an order for one to go out from the warehouse on the next truck to that store.

They are said to have demographic data for the country 2nd'ed only by the US government.

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 10:21:50 AM »
It's a lie to advertise price matching when they won't match their own prices.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 11:49:52 AM »
I've had this same scenario with ammo.  About 18 months ago, when the .22LR supply was low, I found two bulk packs at one location and snagged them.  Went to 2 others, one in the same city and one in the next city over.  The prices at the other two were different than at the first one.  I even had the receipt from the previous day in-hand and they would not adjust the price.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2011, 01:40:51 PM »
i had the same problem when i went to buy a bike for my wife i went to one walmart and the bike was 99 dollars and it was sold out so i went to a different one 2 days later that was 60 mi away and the bike was 110 dollars . i got them to match the price but they weren't happy about it .i told them i would just go but it somewhere else and piss on walmart then,and that i guess they didn't want my money  too bad then. they went good for it but they wern't happy about it but they wanted to shut me up in front of the other customers in line. sometimes it pays to bitch LOL!
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Re: walmart
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 02:42:02 AM »
Re:
Waynesboro ga.  $300.00
Soddy daisy tn.     $364.00
Dayton tn.            $378.00
Tiftonia tn.           $359.00

noted - shop at Waynesboro store..

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 11:04:08 AM »
Re:
Waynesboro ga.  $300.00
Soddy daisy tn.     $364.00
Dayton tn.            $378.00
Tiftonia tn.           $359.00

noted - shop at Waynesboro store..

Waynesboro is 300 miles away.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 07:59:51 PM »
     The Walmart home office sets the retail price of items.    Each individual store has the option to sale below that price but never higher.   So with each store having the autonomy to be the lowest price in their immediate market not all stores are going to have the same price.  Personally,  I think it is a good pricing strategy.   I also like their AD match policy where they match the sale prices of their competitors.   My wife and I use it for considerable savings on our grocery bills.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2012, 12:54:07 PM »
I do not shop at Wally World if I can at all help it because of the way they treat thier employees. Please watch the documentary "The High Cost of Low Prices". They pay thier employee's rediculously low amounts, and then tell them that they make so little they qualify for Federal Aid. The American taxpayer is indirectly subsidizing the employees pay, all the while, multiple people from the Walton family are on the top ten richest americans every single year. I find it hard to believe they cannot afford to pay thier employees a fair wage. This is only one of the many ways Wally World mistreats thier employees. Corporations will only change thier ways when the American people deprive them of the only thing they really care about, money, by voting with thier dollars.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 01:07:29 PM »
I do not shop at Wally World if I can at all help it because of the way they treat thier employees. Please watch the documentary "The High Cost of Low Prices". They pay thier employee's rediculously low amounts, and then tell them that they make so little they qualify for Federal Aid. The American taxpayer is indirectly subsidizing the employees pay, all the while, multiple people from the Walton family are on the top ten richest americans every single year. I find it hard to believe they cannot afford to pay thier employees a fair wage. This is only one of the many ways Wally World mistreats thier employees. Corporations will only change thier ways when the American people deprive them of the only thing they really care about, money, by voting with thier dollars.

I really cant fault walmart for what they do with their employees. Its not how I would run a business, but theres no shortage of people that are fully willing to endure it. Its their choice to work there and its walmarts choice to set their wages and benefits...and price matching policies :) If the market demands change, change will be made....the walmart employee market isnt demanding change in any effective way, and even if they do, there will be people willing to take those jobs.....therfore, change will not be made. Working for walmart is not slavery... and if in any way it is....its self-imposed because last I knew, no one put a gun to those people's heads to make them come to work everyday. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 01:28:02 PM »
Working for walmart is not slavery... and if in any way it is....its self-imposed because last I knew, no one put a gun to those people's heads to make them come to work everyday.

I have known more than a few folks who work for them not because the necessarily wanted to, but because in thier area, that is one of the few options they have. They endure it because it is either that or go on the government dole completely. WM business practices put other small local places out of business and there is simply no other work to be had.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2012, 01:47:09 PM »
I have known more than a few folks who work for them not because the necessarily wanted to, but because in thier area, that is one of the few options they have. They endure it because it is either that or go on the government dole completely. WM business practices put other small local places out of business and there is simply no other work to be had.

Its their choice to work there... and its their choice to live in that area. If it wasnt walmart it would be another store....and actually its their choice to have the walmart there in the first place. It's also the small businesses choice to try and compete with walmart whether they were there first or not. they had a chocie to change their business model to adapt to competition and chose not to. That was their choice. Whats the alternative? We make laws preventing walmart from opening new stores? we force people to not buy their stuff? Yeah thats called socialism.

If that community as a whole doesnt want walmart there then they need to come together and get them out....hundreds of communities have done just that.

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2012, 02:12:23 PM »
Whats the alternative? We make laws preventing walmart from opening new stores? we force people to not buy their stuff? Yeah thats called socialism.

I would never advocate for "more laws" or "forcing" anyone to do anything. The alternative is to not do business with them until they treat thier employees with a little common decency and respect. It is possible that the community has not banded together to protest thier business practices simply because they are unaware of the problem. It is possible that people simply believe the official WM party line. If one reads the current articles about employees protesting unfair treatment one would notice a starkly different picture painted by the employees and the management. Again, all I have advocated is that people watch the documentary and make an informed decision for themselves. You have a right to continue to support them with your dollars, just as I have a right to decide not to support them with mine.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2012, 02:22:00 PM »
you absolutely are.... and if you genuinely feel not supporting them with your dollars is actually doing something...whether thats tangible or just because thats how you feel then thats awesome. At least you have a reason for doing it and its not just a bandwagon thing. Thats your choice man...and as a libertarian I'll fight for you to have that choice even if i dont agree with it.

I dont think walmart is some super awesome company or think they need me to defend them... I just think your animocity towards them is misdirected...because when you step back and look at it on a bigger scale, the real evil is about 1 or 2 rungs up the ladder from walmart.

Jack did an episode that explains what Im trying to say a lot better...maybe search for "walmart" on the main site. I think you'd get a lot out of it.

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2012, 02:31:34 PM »
A free society is a double-edged sword.  Our founding fathers, after living under persecution, decided that enduring the negative side effects that come with freedom was very acceptable.

We all gripe (especially me) about gubberment over-regulation.  Do we really want more regulation to tell the Wal-machine how to run their business?  If so, then don't gripe when the gubberment tells you that you have to hire a certain person (recovering alchoholic) to run your business (liquor store). (Stranger things have happened.)

The low wage of Wal-machine employees is just a distraction.  I'm more upset at inflation, a much larger and more dire issue.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2012, 03:17:42 PM »
you absolutely are.... and if you genuinely feel not supporting them with your dollars is actually doing something...whether thats tangible or just because thats how you feel then thats awesome.

 Thats your choice man...and as a libertarian I'll fight for you to have that choice even if i dont agree with it.


A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. If everyone throws thier hands up and says "I cant make a difference" then no one will ever make a difference. I am interested to know why you do not agree with boycotting a business in protest of unethical business practices and treatment of employees.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2012, 03:27:27 PM »
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. If everyone throws thier hands up and says "I cant make a difference" then no one will ever make a difference. I am interested to know why you do not agree with boycotting a business in protest of unethical business practices and treatment of employees.

Seriously...listen to this one...I genuinely think you'll get a lot out of it. Its not to try and change your mind...its more about seeing the bigger picture. I shared a lot of the same views as you do for a very long time until i really started understanding (as the show title states) problems vs. symptoms.

http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/episode-938-understanding-the-problems-vs-the-symptoms


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Re: walmart
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2012, 05:33:16 PM »
Seriously...listen to this one...I genuinely think you'll get a lot out of it.

http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/episode-938-understanding-the-problems-vs-the-symptoms

Thank you for this link. I have listened to the entire episode, unfortunately I learned few if any facts I did not already know. I agree with Jack that there is a much much bigger problem and that these companies are only a symptom. I also agree with him regarding what the bigger problems are. Interesting that he uses the headache metaphor, I often use it myself when talking about problems with the health care industry.

I think maybe the following is where we disagree. What I am hearing in your posts (maybe not what you are intending, but what I am hearing) is that since companies like WM are not the problem, only a symptom, I might as well continue to trade with them. I should continue to suffer the pain of the headache while I am treating the tumor? Can't I take a little asprin now, with the ultimate goal of eventually killing the tumor? I doubt the tumor will be killed overnight. How might we treat it? Might starving the tumor of blood, in the form of money, be a start? Stop feeding the beast. Lets attack as many blood vessels as we can, while we treat the disease at the same time. You profess to be a libertarian, I would think you would want to boycott companies like WM based on those principles as well. If you were to watch the documentary I mentioned earlier (The High Cost of Low Prices, found on Netflix if you are a member) you might agree that there seems to be a directive from the top to treat women differently than men. A direct violation of your libertarian principles that all people should be treated equally. You might also have a problem with supporting cheap Chinese goods as thier people are not often not afforded basic human rights. I actually do not think we are as far off as I originally did, I hope you can look objectively at my arguments, I think we might actually agree.

A couple of quotes from the episode:

At 18:45 "The deficiency is in the heart and mind of the consumer" - I completely agree. Joe the butcher and Bill at the hardware store went out of business because people felt it was more important to save a dollar on some cheaply made Chinese crap or some Monsanto fed cattle grown with steroids than to support thier local businesses.

At 40:14 "If there were enough people like you it would be there. ... We as a society are the problem, but we can only fix it one person at a time" - I completely agree. One person at a time. The journey of a thousand steps I mentioned earlier.

At 44:35 "We can make choices about where we spend our money. ... If there is a better alternative then by all means use it" - The point I was originally making. I do not consider it a great effort to not support these companies. I actually boycott many of the companies he mentioned for the same reason.

To recap, I think the three of us actually agree on the main points, maybe just not the fine points. Safe Journeys!

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Re: walmart
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2012, 05:42:14 PM »
Even though the prices tend to be higher (who can compete with Wmart's ability to buy cheaper, and therefore sell cheaper, due to mass quantity), I shop the mom & pop shops for two reasons: customer service and helping local business owners stay in business.  There is a restaurant (not affiliated with any chain) in our town that is going to be open tomorrow serving a full buffet filled with traditional Thanksgiving fare to anyone in need or would otherwise be spending the holiday alone...at no charge. Since they and their employees always makes sure their patrons are well taken care of, their business continues to prosper.  And as such, has enabled the owners to give back to the community.  While their employees will not be banned from volunteer tomorrow, they have been given the day off (with pay, of course), as the owners family members will be doing all the cooking, serving, and cleaning up.
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Re: walmart
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2012, 06:00:02 PM »
Even though the prices tend to be higher (who can compete with Wmart's ability to buy cheaper, and therefore sell cheaper, due to mass quantity), I shop the mom & pop shops for two reasons: customer service and helping local business owners stay in business. 

Thank you for this wonderful post and inspiring story Belle. This is exactly the kind of business I love to support. This is what I mean by voting with our dollars. If more people thought like you, supporting this business that obviously values its employees and customers alike, I feel this world would be a much better place. Safe Journeys to you and yours.

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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2012, 06:30:55 PM »
Check out my favorite video about Walmart:

http://www.jibjab.com/originals/big_box_mart

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Re: walmart
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2012, 11:57:07 AM »
With their push for more locally grown food (inspired by customers who actually shop at Walmart and let the store know what they want), Walmart is supporting quite a number of small, local, organic farmers who might not otherwise have a ready market.
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Re: walmart
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2012, 12:29:34 PM »
unethical business practices and treatment of employees.

Really?  If that were the case don't you think current laws would shut them down.  If this is going on don't you think they wouldn't be as sucessful as they are.  Do you really think that there are no other choices for these people to find work? . . .  Any area large enough to justify a Walmart has plenty of choices if you get off your butt and make a change.  That may not mean simply finding another job, but could include changing who you are and what value you can bring to your employer (look in the mirror before condeming your employer of being 100% responsible).  Too many people want to blame others for their situation, that is why this country is in the state that it is in. 

Let's not forget that Walmart has plenty of employees whom welcome this extra time on the clock, especially the holiday pay.

+1 livinitup0 for making so much sense of all this.


Update:  I guess this thread was started more on how they cost there items.  Sorry if I hijacked the thread to discuss more about the current reasons they are in the news.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2012, 01:01:13 PM »

Quote from: Azaezel on Yesterday at 03:17:42 PM

unethical business practices and treatment of employees.

Really?  If that were the case don't you think current laws would shut them down. 


Settled out of court to settle 63 wage and hour disputes.

http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/wage-and-hour-lawsuits-against-wal-mart-settled-2211/

Raided because contractors were using illegal immigrants. LEO claims to have recordings proving WM knew contractors used illegal labor. Also claim contractors used even though they had been busted before for the same thing.

http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/23/news/companies/walmart_worker_arrests/

Quote from above article:
"But federal law enforcement officials said information from an undercover investigation revealed that some Wal-Mart executives and some store managers knew of the immigration violations.

Some of the information in the investigation was gathered through the recording of conversations between store managers and contractor executives, the officials told CNN.

Investigators are concerned that Wal-Mart has kept using contractors who have been convicted of hiring illegal workers in the past. The latest sweep stemmed from a 1998 investigation that also targeted janitorial contractors at Wal-Marts, federal sources said."

Walmart sues to stop Black Friday 2012 walkouts protesting for better treatment for employees.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/19302/walmart-strike-black-friday-2012-protest-looms-as-walmart-sues-union

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/19/wal-mart-files-legal-complaint-o-stop-growing-worker-strikes-ahead-black-friday/

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Re: walmart
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2012, 01:10:01 PM »
@ Azaezel

I'm sure you will find many cases such as you quoted (against many other employers too).  I am not condoning working or buying from Walmart, there are other better options.  As I also referred to, there are laws (which you quoted) that will bring them to justice. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2012, 01:09:42 AM »
Just like Monsanto, I choose not to shop at Walmart either for the last 6 years.

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2012, 06:06:13 AM »
Just like Monsanto, I choose not to shop at Walmart either for the last 6 years.

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Re: walmart
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2012, 06:22:29 AM »
Just like Monsanto, I choose not to shop at Walmart either for the last 6 years.

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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2012, 06:28:20 AM »
You're absolutely right TexasGirl.  I hadn't even noticed the subtle change....  Of course it's been a while since I stepped into one.   ;D
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