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Keep it camo
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Author Topic: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV  (Read 91882 times)

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #510 on: December 05, 2012, 04:06:34 PM »
Tires are getting upgraded

current pattern is on the far right. Upgrading to the pattern on the far left.



Aside from better traction these tires are a bit taller which will increase the top speed by about 5 mph to 60.

Edit to add that I am keeping them as duals in the back.
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #511 on: December 06, 2012, 10:20:15 AM »
Where is the AK?

Nothing speaks "fear me" like Hello Kitty with an AK
Are you kidding me?  If I know all she has is an AK, I'm good with that.  It's the LAW rocket painted like a candy cane that scares the hell out of me. ;)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #512 on: December 06, 2012, 12:24:00 PM »
Have you heard of any problems throwing lugs on those newer style tires?   I know it was a while ago, but back in the early 90's we had tons of problems with those styles throwing lugs (Both on the HMMWV's and the Deuces and 5 Tons, we went through so many tires they switched us back to the old style and never changed back until some time after I got out.

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #513 on: December 06, 2012, 12:52:48 PM »
Have you heard of any problems throwing lugs on those newer style tires?   I know it was a while ago, but back in the early 90's we had tons of problems with those styles throwing lugs (Both on the HMMWV's and the Deuces and 5 Tons, we went through so many tires they switched us back to the old style and never changed back until some time after I got out.

These are new tires (still have the nubbies on the tread blocks) and I have not heard of any problems with these in the .mil community.
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #514 on: December 06, 2012, 08:40:25 PM »
We had them on the deuces and 5 tons, and didn't have issues (not to say they couldn't).  Our HMMWVs had the Wrangler ATs.
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #515 on: December 06, 2012, 09:30:09 PM »
We had them on the deuces and 5 tons, and didn't have issues (not to say they couldn't).  Our HMMWVs had the Wrangler ATs.

My 101A3 trailer has the run flat Goodyear 37" MTR's. Those are awesome tires
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #516 on: December 06, 2012, 09:45:51 PM »
...these tires are a bit taller which will increase the top speed by about 5 mph to 60...
Are you/have you recalibrated the spedometer? Do these things even have a spedometer?

I mean, I would hate to be speeding and not even know it.  ;)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #517 on: December 06, 2012, 09:59:19 PM »
Are you/have you recalibrated the spedometer? Do these things even have a spedometer?

I mean, I would hate to be speeding and not even know it.  ;)

They do have a speedo but I worry more about the RPM's than speed in this thing. I don't think I have ever been on a road that cars were not passing me so speeding is not high on my worry list :)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #518 on: December 06, 2012, 10:32:33 PM »
Are you/have you recalibrated the spedometer? Do these things even have a spedometer?

I mean, I would hate to be speeding and not even know it.  ;)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #519 on: December 06, 2012, 10:41:53 PM »
they are made to go, go anywhere, with anything, but not go fast.

Well, he did say it would do 60 now. Here, if they bust you for speeding in a 20 mph school zone it is a $400 fine. In town, speed limits are generally 35-45 mph. That is a $200 fine.

If you are in a school zone and your spedometer reads 20, but the cop's radar says 22, you are busted.

So, as long as he stays out of active school zones and little towns like Pantego, TX (where the police spend most of their day looking for traffic violations 'cuz there's nothing else to do) he will be fine.  ;)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #520 on: December 06, 2012, 10:59:00 PM »
Well, he did say it would do 60 now. Here, if they bust you for speeding in a 20 mph school zone it is a $400 fine. In town, speed limits are generally 35-45 mph. That is a $200 fine.

If you are in a school zone and your spedometer reads 20, but the cop's radar says 22, you are busted.

So, as long as he stays out of active school zones and little towns like Pantego, TX (where the police spend most of their day looking for traffic violations 'cuz there's nothing else to do) he will be fine.  ;)

No worries, it's physically impossible to not realize how fast you're going in a deuce.  If you're going 60mph, that bad boy will be absolutely SCREAMING!!   ;D
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #521 on: December 07, 2012, 07:11:23 AM »
No worries, it's physically impossible to not realize how fast you're going in a deuce.  If you're going 60mph, that bad boy will be absolutely SCREAMING!!   ;D

I managed to get an empty duece up to to about 73 once down a long slight downhill highway in Germany, talk about freakin loud LOL  Thought it was gonna come apart at the seems.   I've also had one up on 5 wheels before too.   Scary cornering job that day.  Learned a lesson about keeping her slow in the corners. 

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #522 on: December 07, 2012, 09:53:05 AM »
Well, he did say it would do 60 now. Here, if they bust you for speeding in a 20 mph school zone it is a $400 fine. In town, speed limits are generally 35-45 mph. That is a $200 fine.

If you are in a school zone and your spedometer reads 20, but the cop's radar says 22, you are busted.

So, as long as he stays out of active school zones and little towns like Pantego, TX (where the police spend most of their day looking for traffic violations 'cuz there's nothing else to do) he will be fine.  ;)

Considering how long it takes to get up to the higher speeds I don't have any worries about breaking the speed limits on residential streets. o-60 in 15 minutes
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #523 on: December 07, 2012, 01:29:09 PM »
I did some mods. I can get from zero to fifty in thirteen minutes fifteen seconds. Mine tops out at about fifty two.  ;)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #524 on: December 07, 2012, 03:53:29 PM »
I see that "Keep it camo" has now pulled even with "Hello Kitty."
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #525 on: December 07, 2012, 08:17:30 PM »
I did some mods. I can get from zero to fifty in thirteen minutes fifteen seconds. Mine tops out at about fifty two.  ;)

WITH a tailwind, right?

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #526 on: December 07, 2012, 08:25:01 PM »
I should have qualified my boast. That is with a tailwind and headed down hill.
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #527 on: December 08, 2012, 09:37:49 PM »
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I managed to get an empty duece up to to about 73 once down a long slight downhill highway in Germany.....

73kph, right?   ;)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #528 on: December 09, 2012, 07:45:45 PM »
go ahead and paint a bulleye on the back and get it over with not exactly a low profile vehicle, get out unnoticed, good luck, to big of an attention drawer, first to be searched at a road block,I don't understand the concept behind this kind of BOV. But then again I don't plan on fighting my way out of the city  . In a vehicle like that chances are you will, Not exactlly a polar bear in a snow storm , SO WHY this makes no sense
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #529 on: December 10, 2012, 07:02:20 AM »
I would guess that most folks here don't plan to fight their way out of anywhere unless it's absolutely the last option left and most hope to Bug Out before there is the potential of being locked down in an area they have little hope of escaping.

Regarding a roadblock set up in such a situation,  I would think that every vehicle is more than likely going to be searched with the exception of perhaps unicycle, and then don't expect to get waved through with a backpack.

I would estimate that the number of situations where a truck like this would be useful far outnumber the ones in which it might be a detriment.


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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #530 on: December 10, 2012, 07:22:25 AM »
I would tend to agree with Nico,  Preppers tend to be a bit more aware of the current situation and would most likely bug out long before things reached that point.  (Things don't generally just instantly develop into a lock-down police state).  And the most likely scenarios that would require bugging out are weather and natural disasters in which case this would be an ideal vehicle to make the move with. 

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #531 on: December 10, 2012, 10:21:56 AM »


Like stated above. If you wait till everything is locked down then no matter what you are driving you are going to get the stink eye from anyone you pass.
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #532 on: December 10, 2012, 11:05:13 AM »
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Like stated above. If you wait till everything is locked down then no matter what you are driving you are going to get the stink eye from anyone you pass.
Like you're going to pass anyone. :rofl:

I see a lot of situations where an RV-style exodus is ideal.  The flexibility of having a primary BOL, but due to unforeseen circumstances (like a road closure due to a severe snow storm, etc.) you have the ability to go in any direction and still have everything you need to be self-supported.  A cabin in the woods can get vandalized and a homestead can be in the line of fire from a hurricane.
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« Reply #533 on: December 14, 2012, 10:36:32 AM »
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Like you're going to pass anyone. :rofl:

Sure he is.  Didn't you see the Knight Rider turbo boost button he installed? ;D
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #534 on: December 19, 2012, 10:56:32 AM »
Tires are on.



You can see how taller they are here.


Getting there


Again you can see the height difference




Last set of duals about to go on


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Driving on radials rather than bias tires feels way different. Turning at slow speeds is about the same but these tires do not whip the steering wheel around when you let go of it. And of course my top speed is now almost 60 MPH. Now I just need a good snow to really get a feel for how much better the traction will be.
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #535 on: December 19, 2012, 07:04:05 PM »
go ahead and paint a bulleye on the back and get it over with not exactly a low profile vehicle, get out unnoticed, good luck, to big of an attention drawer, first to be searched at a road block,I don't understand the concept behind this kind of BOV. But then again I don't plan on fighting my way out of the city  . In a vehicle like that chances are you will, Not exactlly a polar bear in a snow storm , SO WHY this makes no sense

I agree with this opinion so much that yesterday I purchased an M109A3. I currently have an M185A3 and am M150A3 trailer. This makes (2) trucks and a trailer in my stable in addition to cars, If I need low profile I have the cars. I prefer Green Iron.

No thread hijack intended, just an update about little old me.

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #536 on: December 19, 2012, 07:08:03 PM »
I made an error, my trailer is an M105A3 not an M150A3. Perhaps one day I will become a better proofreader.

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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #537 on: December 19, 2012, 07:26:26 PM »
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« Reply #538 on: December 19, 2012, 08:56:40 PM »
 :)
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Re: M109A3 - My soon to be new and improved BOV
« Reply #539 on: December 20, 2012, 07:27:55 AM »
I agree with this opinion so much that yesterday I purchased an M109A3. I currently have an M185A3 and am M150A3 trailer. This makes (2) trucks and a trailer in my stable in addition to cars, If I need low profile I have the cars. I prefer Green Iron.

No thread hijack intended, just an update about little old me.

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Can I visit and drive one?  ;D