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2nd most important thing to carry
« on: February 07, 2012, 09:16:10 PM »
I posted a video about a card I carry and recommend to my clients to carry. This one or make one of there choosing. To use in the event that you would use your firearm to defend yourself.

Video: http://youtu.be/GwNqU5cyCio



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edited to correct topic title spelling
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 08:23:47 AM by TexDaddy »

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Re: 2nd most importing thing to carry
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 11:27:08 PM »
I would error on the side of caution when using that.
Evidence can get lost or contaminated. Witnessess can walk off. This stuff makes your case stronger. you dont want to loose it.  The responding law enforcement should know some basic stuff to help you.
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Re: 2nd most importing thing to carry
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 12:24:57 PM »
I would error on the side of caution when using that.
Evidence can get lost or contaminated. Witnessess can walk off. This stuff makes your case stronger. you dont want to loose it.  The responding law enforcement should know some basic stuff to help you.
I agree that all situations are different and fluid.  I know from my experience that most but not all people that would have been justified in a self-defense shooting sunk them selves by saying TOO much.  This is a huge subject and I offer only a small part in hopes that it will make folks think about how to act after the attack.  We, as firearms instructors mostly focus on the Gun Stuff and not so much on the rest of the story (Paul Harvey  8))

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Re: 2nd most important thing to carry
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 04:37:12 PM »
The only thing I'd change is the word "refusing".  I just prefer something softer, but none the less with the same meaning like "...by electing not to speak with you..."  Just a little less confrontational.
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Re: 2nd most important thing to carry
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 08:36:33 PM »
I agree that all situations are different and fluid.  I know from my experience that most but not all people that would have been justified in a self-defense shooting sunk them selves by saying TOO much.  This is a huge subject and I offer only a small part in hopes that it will make folks think about how to act after the attack.  We, as firearms instructors mostly focus on the Gun Stuff and not so much on the rest of the story (Paul Harvey  8))

Yeah, I might suggest changing that to ". . .I am exercising my right to remain silent and will not answer any questions until I have consulted with an attorney. . ."

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Re: 2nd most important thing to carry
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 09:17:35 PM »
Yeah, I might suggest changing that to ". . .I am exercising my right to remain silent and will not answer any questions until I have consulted with an attorney. . ."

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Re: 2nd most important thing to carry
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 09:28:19 PM »
Better still...
Thank you, I will do so...

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Re: 2nd most important thing to carry
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 09:47:41 PM »
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Re: 2nd most important thing to carry
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 09:50:34 AM »
I believe that Ayoob's recommendation for a statement is more reasonable and less likely to get you into more trouble. This synopsis is the way I remember it, it is not exact:

"Officer, that man attacked me; I will sign a complaint."

"There are witnesses; there is evidence."

"Officer, I am willing to answer additional questions as soon as I have consulted with my attorney."

The first statement(s) establish you as the victim. The second statement(s) do what you can to make sure evidence is collected. Do NOT expect them to do a complete sweep or cordon anything off or call in a forensics team. You need to tell them where stuff is, especially if the encounter/fight covered any distance whatsoever between start and finish. The last statement tells them you'll not be saying anything else until you have the attorney present.

One other thing: This kind of statement, whichever one you make and in whichever form you make it, needs to be rehearsed and practiced like anything else. You should be running the initial phone call you make to the PD, your actions as they arrive, and the statements you make, though your mind from time to time, and consider walking through them at the range on occasion after you run a drill.

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