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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2013, 06:48:51 AM »
A few years ago I stumbled upon "One Second After". I thoroughly enjoyed that book, and spent many days tired at work because I was up late reading it.

"Lights Out" was another enjoyable read.

I liked "Patriots" by Rawles, but the second and third books left me scratching my head. It just seemed to revisit the first book. I read that one of the main characters dies in the first book, but the second (or third) book gets into his life in detail. Why spend the time developing a character that you already know is dead?

I read the fiction books for enjoyment after a long day at work. But the books I like to read is the more realistic plots. Some of the books the main character has the absolutely greatest BOL, 2 years of food stocked up, enough firearms to outfit a Army division and is in perfect shape.

That's why I enjoyed "One Second After" so much, and the series by Joe Nobody. Characters caught completely unprepared. How are they going to survive and maybe even thrive?

Just finished book 5 of the 299 series. If the author is basing the story on real life people, I'm really glad I don't live in Washington surrounded by "loyalists"! Will be interesting to read how the whole Grant/Lisa thing finally comes to a head. Not everybody has their family on board when it comes to prepping.

Bought a B&N Nook HD this week, and the first book I'm reading on it is "77 days in September". Based on the positive reviews by above posters, I'll keep at it.

In short, I read these kind of books for enjoyment, as a way to wind down before going to bed. If I happen to pick up a book that ends up being a real dog, I'm not that upset. I was going to read something anyway!

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2013, 07:37:58 AM »
Sometimes I wonder if folks that we periodically talk about lurk or post in this forum.  I'm sure Bracken, if he does post here, uses an unassuming handle like "smurf hunter".

It's you, isn't it?  smurf hunter is really Bracken.  Back in your sneaking and peeking days as a frogman, you called the bad guys "smurfs" and that's how you created smurf hunter as your handle.  I'm onto you.
lol... i like that....

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2013, 09:23:06 AM »
Sometimes I wonder if folks that we periodically talk about lurk or post in this forum.  I'm sure Bracken, if he does post here, uses an unassuming handle like "smurf hunter".

It's you, isn't it?  smurf hunter is really Bracken.  Back in your sneaking and peeking days as a frogman, you called the bad guys "smurfs" and that's how you created smurf hunter as your handle.  I'm onto you.

Well, my plan was for everyone to think so.  That way when I implemented my evil scheme for world domination, the authorities would knock on Mr. Bracken's door and not mine.  The guys has motive and opportunity all set up for me :)

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2013, 11:14:25 AM »
I'm kicking off a site to review prepper literature and I've certainly got a couple to add to the "Worst" list!
Preppers Road March by Ron Foster was so bad I gave up long before I could finish.  HORRIBLE editing and writing.
Survival Mode by Mike Ballew rates pretty low in my opinion.  I've seen slasher films with less violence.  The main character runs around killing people with guns, bombs, axes, and even acid. 

You can read my full reviews at http://prepperbookreview.com but I'll say that these are two books that were a waste of money.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2013, 08:41:37 AM »
I'm kicking off a site to review prepper literature and I've certainly got a couple to add to the "Worst" list!
Preppers Road March by Ron Foster was so bad I gave up long before I could finish.  HORRIBLE editing and writing.
Survival Mode by Mike Ballew rates pretty low in my opinion.  I've seen slasher films with less violence.  The main character runs around killing people with guns, bombs, axes, and even acid. 

You can read my full reviews at http://prepperbookreview.com but I'll say that these are two books that were a waste of money.

+1 for taking the time to put together a site like that.  Thank you.

On a side note, don't tell people you can't finish a book if you are giving a review on it, you will kill your credibility.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2013, 07:43:24 AM »

On a side note, don't tell people you can't finish a book if you are giving a review on it, you will kill your credibility.
   
 Good advice.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2013, 12:27:46 PM »
ARKstorm was hugely disappointing.

Started out ok, then went completely off the reservation and didn't tie anything together.

I had to check to make sure there wasn't a digital conversion error and I missed half of the book.

Sadly there wasn't.

Save your $$$

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2013, 03:23:23 PM »
"The Resistance Rises" by Max Velocity

DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.  This is worse than Rawles' "Patriots".  Could not even stand to finish it, and I have read a lot of bad prepper fiction (I read more of the sucky "Prepper Road March" than this). 

There is NO FAMILY anywhere that acts like Jack and Caitlin's does.  Nobody ever gets shot except the bad guys.  Whole houses get shot up, and the family escapes.  UNREALISTIC.  Sucky.  I asked Amazon for a refund.

Instead, go read the 4th novel in Joe Nobody's "Holding Their Own" series, or the sequel to "Going Home" ("Surviving Home") by Angery American.  Good books, both.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #68 on: May 21, 2013, 05:02:12 AM »
@ backwoods engineer:
   Max Velocity? That's the nom d'plume the guy chose? That's totally explains why his book sucked. But some people go in for that sort of entertaiment. I used to read a lot of navy seal adventures when I was a young lad. The over the tolp testosterone dripping machismo is a little nauseating now but it sure was fun then. Isn't perspective everything?

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2013, 07:10:08 PM »
@ backwoods engineer:
   Max Velocity? That's the nom d'plume the guy chose? That's totally explains why his book sucked. But some people go in for that sort of entertaiment. I used to read a lot of navy seal adventures when I was a young lad. The over the tolp testosterone dripping machismo is a little nauseating now but it sure was fun then. Isn't perspective everything?

Yeah, that's his nom de plume.  I'm sure he's a squared-away operator in real life, but I'm sorry, normal citizens just don't act the way his characters do in the book.  I had to put that book down for the same reason I can't stand reading Ayn Rand: there are no real people like that.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2013, 07:52:19 PM »
@ Backwoods:
Yeah, I know what you mean about Rand. What I realized about Atlas Shrugged (AS) is that she wasn't really wiriting characters so much as achtypes. I found the Fountainhead to be much more relatable characterwise than AS. I like the story of AS better but just barely. The movie that has been and is being made of Atlas Shrugged, is a little less obnoxious with the hyperconsistency of the characters.
  We The Living is much more character driven and much more readable for most people. Anthem is much a much more conscise expression of her ideas and can be read in an hour or two and is worth a look if you have the time.
 

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2013, 07:06:04 AM »
@ Backwoods:
Yeah, I know what you mean about Rand. What I realized about Atlas Shrugged (AS) is that she wasn't really wiriting characters so much as achtypes. I found the Fountainhead to be much more relatable characterwise than AS. I like the story of AS better but just barely. The movie that has been and is being made of Atlas Shrugged, is a little less obnoxious with the hyperconsistency of the characters.
  We The Living is much more character driven and much more readable for most people. Anthem is much a much more conscise expression of her ideas and can be read in an hour or two and is worth a look if you have the time.
 

+1 for an accurate description of how to read in to Rand.  She is more a philosopher than anything else.  I did have to grind through AS, but it was worth it.  Honestly you could just read Galt's exposition near the end and get the gist of it.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2013, 01:48:41 PM »
Thanks shauny,
  Yeah, Galt's radio address is the penultimate expression of Rand's philosophy, along with Rearden's court speech and the same with Eoark from the Fountainhead. However, if you read only that, you miss the really cool parts of Galt telling his torturer's how to fix the torture machine when it broke and they didn't know how. And the over the top cartoonish rescue of Galt by the rest of the team.  That and the part where the government's secret weapon overloads and erases a lot of stuff and people. Those were the most entertaining parts for me.
  The story of a man who vowed to stop the motor of the world, and did.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2013, 03:25:23 PM »
I would have to say Lucifers Hammer is the worst one i have ever read.

There is a dude that surfs a tidal wave through LA, and 10 minutes into the disaster, a LT shoots his Commanding officer in the head and the entire squad turn to cannibalism.

They drive around Cali with a big put to make people into soup. :o

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2013, 10:12:22 PM »
I would have to say Lucifers Hammer is the worst one i have ever read.

There is a dude that surfs a tidal wave through LA, and 10 minutes into the disaster, a LT shoots his Commanding officer in the head and the entire squad turn to cannibalism.

They drive around Cali with a big put to make people into soup. :o

I thoroughly enjoyed Lucifers Hammer and am actually rereading it right now.  I think Niven and Pournelle are fantastic together.  They go off on a few tangents and get a little fantastical, but as a work of fiction it is the epitome of prepper porn.  I could use a little less of the political intrigue, but I guess that is a facet of human behavior that will never die.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2013, 01:09:44 PM »
Oops.... Meant to edit my post, not quote it.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2013, 11:37:54 PM »
Worst, worst, WORST I have ever read is "Terawatt".  God, it was horrible.
Here's my amazon review of it - just read that one-sentence paragraph and you'll see why I have this opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2MIVB2US0WB74/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2013, 05:21:02 PM »
Sometimes I wonder if folks that we periodically talk about lurk or post in this forum.  I'm sure Bracken, if he does post here, uses an unassuming handle like "smurf hunter".

It's you, isn't it?  smurf hunter is really Bracken.  Back in your sneaking and peeking days as a frogman, you called the bad guys "smurfs" and that's how you created smurf hunter as your handle.  I'm onto you.

All joking aside ....

... All good authors will google their name at least once a quarter, and will plug in additional search criteria such as "blog" or "forum" or "vBulletin" or "Simple Machines" in order to see who all in the blogosphere and the millions of message communities are talking about them. Ditto for FB and Twitter searches. The very successful authors have an assistant who does it every month, and then that assistant issues a formal written report to the author and/or his agent and/or his publicist. 

That said, I'm sure Bracken has found this exact thread already, or else will soon.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2013, 04:25:02 PM »
I prefer Bracken's literature to his facebooking...

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #79 on: September 11, 2013, 06:59:45 PM »
I guess this more of a forum for the worst and most unappreciative vocal readers. Most of the comments say they learned something from reading one of these so called bad prepper fiction books,so why be a troll? Hell go write your own if your capable. These folks made a effort and it is far from an easy job.Preppers are all about supporting other preppers. Not a bunch of grammar Nazis entertaining their egos by criticizing efforts and creating negative energy.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2013, 10:57:14 PM »
Worst, worst, WORST I have ever read is "Terawatt".  God, it was horrible.
Here's my amazon review of it - just read that one-sentence paragraph and you'll see why I have this opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2MIVB2US0WB74/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

Aww, really?  I thought it was hilarious!  I call my cat "Rancid" on account of that book.

Yeah, it's not as good as, say, "Lights Out".  But it was worth the few bucks I paid on Kindle.  I think I even read it twice.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2013, 04:43:15 AM »
     While not strictly books, some of the survival magazines are a little hard to take. The problem is that unlike a novel, magazines have degenerated into shills for advertisers. I hate paying for the privilege of being bombarded with ads, most of which offer items I already have, can't use, aren't interested in, or are just plain overpriced junk. The actual articles are usually simplistic, redundant or written by contributors of dubious credentials. If I read one more article on "The Perfect BOB", I'm going to be sick. And yet, I just keep buying the damn things, hoping that there will be some small kernal of information that just might someday come in handy. The ones I won't buy are usually weapons oriented, with titles that generally read, "Home Defense". Usually there are a few initial pages of why you should be prepared to defend your home, accompanied with picture of guys in ski masks and flashlights peering into windows. The remainder of the magazine is usually hundreds of pictures of every type of firearm you should buy.
     For the totally unfamiliar individual, new to the survival lifestyle, there may be some value in being presented with this "candy store" of things to save your bacon. I think, though, that there's a great deal of wasted money spent because of these publications.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2013, 04:52:46 AM »
     Almost forgot. I agree that "Patriots" was pretty hard to get through. My impression is that if your not an ex Navy Seal, Green Beret or Airborne Ranger, your screwed. I also agree that those characters who continually go on and on with details about their canteen cup or footwear, are the equivalent of a mental root canal. I'm currently reading "Going Home" and its beginning to get to that point. I don't really care anymore about what MRE spread the protagonist is putting on his MRE crackers.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2013, 09:51:23 PM »
I personally will give almost anything a chance and don't let reviews of books decide my decision. The worst Prepper story I have read is the story Arms Race by Mike Kenth ( I think it was called this, it has been awhile sense I read it). Up into the middle of the book it was OK. It was even realistic to a point, with a secret alliance of countries attacking the U.S at once so that the U.S military is weak. The hard part to read is after this point, when this alliance invades the U.S.A from all the coasts at the same time and start attacking selective locations. That part is not bad, but it gets pretty bad when the Red Dawn like militia group starts attacking the alliance. The leader magically had a large supply of rocket launchers, real assault weapons and even a military Humvee that includes a 50cal with a unlimited supply of ammo. When the alliance finally finds their base ( a old garage in a small town) and kill everyone except the leader, who magically has a entrance to the sewers from the base.   
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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2013, 11:58:24 PM »
I thoroughly enjoyed Lucifers Hammer and am actually rereading it right now.  I think Niven and Pournelle are fantastic together.  They go off on a few tangents and get a little fantastical, but as a work of fiction it is the epitome of prepper porn.  I could use a little less of the political intrigue, but I guess that is a facet of human behavior that will never die.
I read Lucifer's Hammer in the late 1970s and it got me thinking about prepping back then before it was fashionable. I don't know why anyone would take it seriously though. Its called Apocalypse Fiction. Niven and Pournelle were a good  writing duo

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2013, 04:53:09 AM »
     I read "Lucifer's Hammer" back in the day and enjoyed it; but then I read most of Jerry Ahern's "Survivalist" series, up until about #24 when the cloned Nazi zombies in their fortress in Peru were ready to take over...you get the idea. Actually, I've been a life long amateur astronomer and a survivalist since the Cuban Missile Crisis. The premise in "L.H.", that a meteor or comet could seriously impact life on the planet is all too real; look what happened when a small one exploded over that Russian city recently. There's one out there with our name on it somewhere. How "L.H." presents societies reaction to a global disaster may be a stretch; reality is anyone's guess. Look at Katrina.
     One that was particularly bad, I think it was "Warlord", involved a guy with a crossbow wandering over what was left of California after the "Big One" split it off from the mainland. Terrible! Also there was a series, and I can't remember the name, about a survivor who wandered the wasteland in a homemade armored van. I think he had to keep injecting himself with something to keep from turning into a radiation zombie or something. So by now it's pretty obvious that I probably read every piece of survival porn printed during that time period. I finally packed up four or five hundred paperbacks and dumped them at the local book exchange.
     Anybody remember Ryan Cawder and Kristy Wroth?

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2013, 03:56:26 PM »
Cloned Nazi zombies- gotta love it. Could there be anything worse? ha ha

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2013, 10:05:14 PM »
      Anybody remember Ryan Cawder and Kristy Wroth?

Remember them?  They're still being published.

And I have each and every one of their books. . .I started reading the series when the first book came out (too many years ago).

Hell, how about "The Guardians" series?

But, this is getting into a topic covered by another thread.

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #88 on: September 16, 2013, 09:19:43 PM »
     The "Guardians" gave me such a crush on Cadillac-Gage armored cars!

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Re: Worst survivalist/prepper books?
« Reply #89 on: October 05, 2013, 11:26:56 PM »
The most boring survival novels are those that try to be realistic. Real-life survival is boring, and novels that are boring are bad novels. That’s not to say a survival novel should read like fantasy, but it shouldn’t read like a day at your office either. For most, deer hunting consists of sitting in a treestand for hours and hours. Imagine making a video of this without cutting the 99.9% that didn’t include the actual moment the deer shows up - after three weeks of sitting in that stand 4 hours in the morning and 3 hours in the afternoon every day. A novel that tries to be too realistic is almost as bad. I could name titles but won’t.
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