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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2012, 09:20:28 AM »
I love that picture :)

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2012, 03:46:20 PM »
When do the next set of books come out?  I'm dying to continue the story!

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« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2012, 07:44:10 PM »

When do the next set of books come out?  I'm dying to continue the story!


Mid November.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2012, 01:25:39 PM »
Mid November.

My birthday is November 16th. Looks like it's going to be real easy to tell hubby what to get me this year.  ;)

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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2012, 10:23:59 PM »

My birthday is November 16th. Looks like it's going to be real easy to tell hubby what to get me this year.  ;)


The family that read 299 Days together, stays together.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2012, 06:32:23 AM »
The family that read 299 Days together, stays together.

Unfortunately I doubt I'll be able to get hubby to read the series. If you had set it in the Star Wars or Star Trek universe he'd be all over it, but reality doesn't hold his interest.

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« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2012, 08:15:24 AM »

Unfortunately I doubt I'll be able to get hubby to read the series. If you had set it in the Star Wars or Star Trek universe he'd be all over it, but reality doesn't hold his interest.


Want me to have the Team come and visit him?  He'll be pleading for his life and then might be open to reading the books.  Just a thought. 


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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2012, 08:32:54 AM »
Again, an excellent read. I don't know if it was the additional action, the shorter time period, or getting used to your writing style, but I did enjoy the second book a bit more than the first (probably a combination of all three).

I find myself constantly checking this world's "reality" against what I would expect to happen in typical "prepper-porn" type novels.
Having the Team help the little old lady was nice, and helps develop (or reinforce) their characters, but the stalled car was a very nice touch. 90% of fiction novels would have had a fire-fight in that scene (or the gas station before-hand), so it was nice to see that not every author feels the need to have a gun fight simply because his characters are carrying guns.

I felt like Grant's reaction to his gun fight was appropriate as well. No heroism or self-assuredness, but a lot of self-doubt, second-guessing and conflicting regrets. Just the way I would expect a real person to look back at the first time they found themselves in that awful situation.

I don't know if I can wrap my head around bugging out alone, without my wife and kids. Of course I have no idea how I would react, but in my head I don't think I would leave. I would stay in my home regardless of whether authorities would be looking for me... no way I would leave my wife or kids unprotected in that scenario. I don't know if I would use force to get them to come with me, but I would like to think I would have fought a lot harder than Grant did.

Even though I'm definitely not "tacti-cool" and I'm an older family man myself, I find myself identifying more with the Team and Pow than I do with Grant. I'm torn between whether I want the Team to rescue a bunch of "damsels in distress" type sorority chicks and end up all coupling up, or if that might be a little too predictable and start wandering dangerously close to Nora Roberts territory. :p

(As long as some fem-bot doesn't show up with an attitude and a crossbow I think I'll be alright with whatever happens.)  ::)
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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2012, 09:09:38 AM »
Finally got time to read and read through both books yesterday and today.  Loved the story and really look forward to more.  I have an "outside voice" that speaks to me in exactly the same way; short phrases, succinct thoughts, and I wonder where it comes from in the same way as you describe in the book.  That was very believable to me.

The Lisa thing bothered me too but on reflection it's realistic, more realistic than most preppers (including myself) can fathom.  We are shocked on a daily basis by just how blind people can be.  Denial and ignorance, willful or otherwise, go way beyond what seems possible even when the truth is staring people in the face.  It's actually an important concept to come to grips with.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2012, 08:50:19 PM »
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The Lisa thing bothered me too but on reflection it's realistic, more realistic than most preppers (including myself) can fathom.  We are shocked on a daily basis by just how blind people can be.  Denial and ignorance, willful or otherwise, go way beyond what seems possible even when the truth is staring people in the face.  It's actually an important concept to come to grips with.

My brother, who is very much a grasshopper, but I'm making inroads with, was watching Revolution with his wife.  She mentioned how much it would suck if all the electronics went down (they are VERY "plugged in") just thinking about how much she would miss the gizmos.  He thought she meant the whole situation, including what would come afterwards.  So he says "Yeah, we should get some more guns and ammunition."  She just couldn't comprehend why he would want guns and ammunition in such a scenario.  It had never crossed her mind that people would become violent over it.  Luckily he knows, and the country boy deep down inside of him is ever so slowly coming around to preparing for some eventuality.

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« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2012, 09:23:32 PM »

Thanks, Heavy G


It is my great pleasure.

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« Reply #71 on: October 01, 2012, 12:51:51 PM »
Good reads Heavy G.  Its a testament to good writing that I am still mad at Grant for leaving the house and family two days after finishing the books. (Its all about protecting the family and then he leaves the family)  As someone said earlier -- thanks for emotionally toying with me.   ;D

I really liked how you fleshed out the backstory for Grant over book one -- it was like reading my life story btw down to the legal career and making it to "respectability", though from shanty irish roots for me so that helps -- but it really humanized Grant and to some extent Lisa, the good and the bad and made me care about how Lisa was going to react, would Grant get caught and so on and so on.

Good stuff and drat now I can't wait for November.






 

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« Reply #72 on: October 01, 2012, 08:56:17 PM »
Thanks, Hobbs.  The reason people are loving the story is that it's (largely) real.  The truth is more interesting than fiction.  The story feels real because it (largely) is real.

Well, the present-tense portion of the story is real.  But the future-tense portion will probably be real at the pace we're going in this country.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2012, 02:04:52 PM »
Just had to chime in and give my thanks as well, I got through both books quickly, and enjoyed them. I also enjoy the discussion on the forum about these to see others opinions.

I also had many poignant moments while reading the books because I started listening to TSP early on, when I started prepping, and when I look back at all I have accomplished in my life in the past few years, its overwhelming. Reading about Grant's introduction to prepping took me back to many of the emotions and introspective moments I had as well. Now I'm living at my bug out location and well prepared. Luckily, I have a supporting wife in the process, it would've been more of a challenge to have been married to a Lisa, that's for sure.

Looking forward to the next books, hopefully the paradigm holds out long enough to publish all 10? G, have you thought of that?

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« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2012, 04:05:55 PM »
Yep, I've thought about how I hope all ten books get out before the collapse.  There's logistics involved in publishing a book; it takes a lot of time.  Hopefully things don't go south.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2012, 07:18:36 PM »
Loved the books, Hate that I need to wait till November for the next fix.

Unfortunately when you were speaking of the gun range owner getting skewered by the government, I had to stop and read it aloud to SWMBO and was asked if you had some kind of personal insight into our lives.

It is scary and amazing how much I can identify with here.

Thanks for writing these.

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« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2012, 08:53:49 PM »
My pleasure, AlanB.  Thanks for reading them.

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« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2012, 11:04:28 PM »
My birthday is November 16th. Looks like it's going to be real easy to tell hubby what to get me this year.  ;)

Hey that's my bday as well. Im getting the new kindle that comes out this month so I can keep all my 299 days books on it.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2012, 01:50:13 PM »
Would someone please explain what "hillbilly slippers" are? A photo would be great. I tried to google it but all that's coming up are gag gifts like slippers made out of maxi pads, and somehow that doesn't strike me as being very tacticool.  ;D

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« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2012, 02:17:55 PM »
Would someone please explain what "hillbilly slippers" are? A photo would be great. I tried to google it but all that's coming up are gag gifts like slippers made out of maxi pads, and somehow that doesn't strike me as being very tacticool.  ;D


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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2012, 03:01:09 PM »


Gotta website?  I'd like to buy some.  Heavy G, "299 Days" has convinced me I need a pair to go with my "tacticool" pants :-)

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« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2012, 03:49:58 PM »
Gotta website?  I'd like to buy some.  Heavy G, "299 Days" has convinced me I need a pair to go with my "tacticool" pants :-)

Look for "georgia boot" or "romeo boot"

Where I live they are locally available in many retail stores - which is perhaps ironic, because WA state is about the furthest point from GA in the continental US.

My wife buys a lot of shoes from http://www.zappos.com/romeo-boot and loves them. 

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« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2012, 07:14:49 PM »
Gotta website?  I'd like to buy some.  Heavy G, "299 Days" has convinced me I need a pair to go with my "tacticool" pants :-)

 ;D

I already tried to follow G's lead but I forgot my official 299 days guide to when purchasing.  A note for one and all, parachute pants and slippers do not gain you acceptance at your local gun store.  My local SF Ted tried to choke me out. :P

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« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2012, 10:03:13 PM »
You guys slay me.

Parachute pants and slippers?  That paints a mental picture.

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Re: 299 Days: The Collapse (Book Two) - book discussion [SPOILER ALERT]
« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2012, 10:34:57 PM »
So my speculation for book three. 

Are we going to see the debut of the "patriots"? There's a reference to I believe special Ted taking care of somethings that chip doesn't want to tell grant about yet....

Also, if it wrong that I was wanting to see Manda run down and put a couple rounds into Nancy? I was glad to see Lisa get up and beat her nearly senseless but I just wanted to see Manda eliminate her with extreme prejudice.



Heavy, in book two you used the phrase "9/11 times a hundred"  did you come up with this your own or did you steal it from the movie Team America?  I read that phrase and just busted out laughing. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcZ6eJoxeE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2012, 07:02:21 AM »

Heavy, in book two you used the phrase "9/11 times a hundred"  did you come up with this your own or did you steal it from the movie Team America?  I read that phrase and just busted out laughing. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcZ6eJoxeE&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Ha!  I just made that phrase up; I had no idea it was in a movie. 

To address your speculation about Patriots and Special Forces Ted.... nah, I won't address it and spoil things.

And Manda plugging Nancy.... not gonna spoil nuthin'.  Let me put it this way: Manda hates podiatrists. 

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« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2012, 08:33:40 PM »
Finished #2 last night. Can. Not. Wait. for #3.  But I guess I'm gonna.

About Grant leaving Lisa and the kids... been in similar situations several times with the kids and the ex when hurricanes threatened.  Each time there were exactly zero good options.  Can't second guess Grant for what he did, but it was gut-wrenching to read it nevertheless.

Glad the kids are grown and those days are over.

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« Reply #87 on: October 16, 2012, 11:53:16 AM »
Alan, didn't you just love that ending, with the sound of Lisa's SUV crunching the gravel, coming up the road to Pierce Point?  That is just pure joy and elation, right there, distilled down into a sentence.  Good work, G!

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« Reply #88 on: October 16, 2012, 05:02:04 PM »
Alan, didn't you just love that ending, with the sound of Lisa's SUV crunching the gravel, coming up the road to Pierce Point?  That is just pure joy and elation, right there, distilled down into a sentence.  Good work, G!
Yeah, that was the perfect cliffhanger ending.  I'll be back for more in November!

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« Reply #89 on: October 16, 2012, 08:33:21 PM »

About Grant leaving Lisa and the kids... been in similar situations several times with the kids and the ex when hurricanes threatened.  Each time there were exactly zero good options.  Can't second guess Grant for what he did, but it was gut-wrenching to read it nevertheless.


Thank you, Alan.  Many others have said Grant should have forcibly taken Lisa and the kids.  I couldn't see myself doing that in real life.  You are so right that there are exactly zero good options in that situation.