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Offline PARKINGLOT

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Starting to prepare...
« on: November 05, 2012, 03:42:23 PM »
I apologize if this is in the wrong place, I tried to search in advance as well.
I've been listening to TSP since earlier in the year, and now with the close call from Hurricane Sandy, my wife is much more interested in/on board with the prepper mindset. So, starting from basically nothing, what areas would you focus on? What would you do?
My preps to date consist mainly of an almost complete 72 Emergency kit, and a few emergency items in each of our Jeeps.
I'm just not sure where to start.

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 03:48:27 PM »
Id suggest you take some time and go through some of the older episodes.

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 04:38:07 PM »
Welcome to the TSP forums!

To build on livinitup0's answer, a couple episodes you may want to take a look at:

- 797: Avoiding Prepper Burn-Out - Even if you're not burned out about prepping, Jack gives some good things to do to start out.
- 656: Prepping for Storms and Their Aftermath - I forget if I've actually listened to this one yet, but the topic seems to be spot on for what your wife is interested in, so a good place to start.
- 939: Steven Harris on Dealing with a Large Scale Blackout Part 1 - similar to the above, he gives great tips for making it through blackouts, from a few hours to a few days/weeks.
- 940: Steven Harris on Dealing with a Large Scale Blackout Part 2

My own opinion:

I would say put together a 72 hour kit, but you have that already so well done! (More than I have.) After that, I think I would focus on:

- paying down debt and creating an emergency fund if you don't have one
- copy canning to have at least 30 days (increase this goal over time) of food in your home
- get basic supplies to get through a few days without power (I'm in Ohio, the biggest threat is power outages due to snow/ice; this goal may be different depending on your location)
- put together an information kit that includes things like important phone numbers and data related to them (family, doctor, insurance, bank, ect.), bug-out routes (the usual is 3 different ways each to 3 different locations), and plans for various scenarios (tornado, fire, flood, blizzard, lost a job, kid gets sick in the middle of the day, tree falls on your house, ect.) I recommend reading through the site Lessons from Katrina for this one.

And of course, browse the forum and ask questions! Try not to feel overwhelmed at what you haven't done - you're already lightyears ahead of most of the population.

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 04:57:40 PM »
Don't get overwhelmed, you'll do fine......Food, Water, Shelter, Defense........
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 05:14:30 PM »
I like this episode:


Episode-483- 20 Simple Steps to Basic Preparedness
http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/tag/food-storage/page/2

Remember, every journey begins with the first step.  :-)

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 05:28:41 PM »
Check out this post from SW,  Must-Listen Podcasts for TSP newbies (and oldbies) http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=7857.0
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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 05:40:32 PM »
Thank you everyone for your replies, especially Moonfire. I'll have to check out some of those older episodes.
What is an information kit? (Trying to avoid too many dumb questions)
I'm from the Great Lakes Region (Canadian).

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 06:28:50 PM »
An information kit is (in a nutshell) copies of all the important docs you might need.
For myself and my husband, this consists of copies of our home and auto insurance, our lease agreement for our apartment, social security cards, driver's licenses, identification pages of our passports, and a list of important phone numbers.
I keep a paper copy in our 72 hour bag, and an encrypted electronic copy on a usb memory stick attached to my keychain.

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 07:58:12 PM »
I apologize if this is in the wrong place, I tried to search in advance as well.
I've been listening to TSP since earlier in the year, and now with the close call from Hurricane Sandy, my wife is much more interested in/on board with the prepper mindset. So, starting from basically nothing, what areas would you focus on? What would you do?
My preps to date consist mainly of an almost complete 72 Emergency kit, and a few emergency items in each of our Jeeps.
I'm just not sure where to start.

Good question. When I started I listed a bunch of 'disasters' in the order I felt they were most likely to occur. Being in the Northeast we see lots of power outages (especially recently) and house fire is also one of the most likely disasters to hit a family. Another likely thing to occur is a vehicle break down/flat tire - we keep our vehicles maintained, spare as well, and have AAA, we all have cell phones and I bought universal chargers for each vehicle and spare charging cables to keep in the car. I created a list until I covered everything I felt could affect my family (including loss of income) and then started working on what I would need for the most likely 'disaster'. And then the next most likely and on and on. I found that what I am most likely to need in a minor disaster (power outage) would also be needed in a larger scale disaster - things like power for heat, food at home, a way to cook it, water, entertainment if cable goes out and we are stuck in the house for days on end, . Then I started working on it.

Good luck!

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 10:29:27 AM »
Some good advice here already.  You have already made the biggest step that is realizing that you need to get prepared.   Then then next big thing seems you research to try and find out the "right" way to do & the what to do.   Remember the  only "right" way is the way that works for you.  Your plan and your needs will be geared to you and your situation. 

 The info here is just so unbelievably vast.  It is easy to get overwhelmed and over loaded.  Resist the temptation to panic.  One of the most important "prep" tools is our ability to control emotions  think & plan logically.  To assess improvise and adapt to your situation.  Take action one step at a time bit by bit.  You will get to where you want to be.   

Start with what you have on hand.  Gather your things you might be surprised at how much you already have.  Matches candles extra blankets flash light lighter camping supplies extra clothing hats gloves  trash bags (they have several good uses)  ….  & so on.

Since you are going into winter  that may be the  best place to start vs growing your own food or getting out of debit.  Yes it's all important but you will have to decide what and how you want to go about it.  Remember you are not alone.

Yes one more thing.  There are levels of preparedness. Start with the basics first then build from there.  example candle flash light to lantern to power from your car batteries to generator to alternative power like solar wind.  Each section shelter water food security sanitation works like this.   In other words make sure you have band aids before you buy a suture kit.  ;)

Have fun stay safe and Welcome

   
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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 03:32:05 PM »
Very good advice...thank you.
I think I'll "finish" the 72 hour kit, work on a blackout kit/bag, put together an information kit, work on emergency plans...
I have a few things already, one thing I'm semi-working is a BOB/GHB for me, then one for my wife (she's on maternity leave until February, so I have a few months)

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 03:57:42 PM »
Congrats on the little one.  I read somewhere on here that disposable diaper prices may be going up because of a fire in a plant that makes one of the ingredients?  Something like that.    You might want to look into that.   I only mention it because 1. of the little one & 2. when tight on cash I like to use today on yesterdays prices.  Can save a lot of money that way once you get going.  I call it investing in the supermarkets.  spend $200 on meat that would cost $500+ over time to buy on a daily basis.  Take that $300 savings to spend on other things and so fourth. 


Sounds like you have a good plan getting started. 
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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 04:06:26 PM »

Prepping 101


I don't include specific items but types of items on a priority basis. My priorities will be different than others, so feel free to jockey things around for your own situation. The main things are in the first two groups of five. It could just as easily have been a first 10 list, but I wanted to break it down into easy steps.


Some priorities to think about when you are just starting to prep.

Forget about Doomsday Preps, Armageddon, or TEOTWAWKI for now. Concentrate on basic human needs first and foremost. The rest can come when you’ve learned more and not only have, but have practiced with, the initial items. Begin to study and learn all you can now, and as you go along. Preps without knowledge aren’t nearly as effective as they are when you know the why-to and when-to in addition to the how-to. Develop a plan as you go along and adjust it as needed.

The needs are grouped together in basic order of need. Within the bracket, the items are essentially of equal importance. Having one without the others might or might not do much good or make much difference.

But something has to come first and something last, so they are listed that way, but the order of the groups is more important. Try to get the groups started in order, unless there is a pressing need to jump something ahead of the list. You don’t have to be ‘finished’ with one grouping before you start acquiring the items in the next group, but you should have a good start on them before you move on.


Some assumptions:

The overwhelming majority of preps will be needed for situations that occur at home.

Most disasters will not be Doomsday, The Apocalypse, TEOTWAWKI or WROL situations.

Most disasters will still have police and National Guard units enforcing law & order.

People will still be responsible for their actions legally and morally.

There will looters and violence in some major disasters, but the proportion of life & death incidents will be much smaller than the number of incidents requiring basic human needs.
    
Most households will have some basic items at home that can be used during a disaster. Not everything has to be purchased for use only during one. You can often incorporate into the preps items you already have. (Basic First Aid kits including some OTC & any needed prescription meds. A flashlight or two & some candles. A knife. Bedding)


The priorities are set follows:

1st Priority group: Items most likely to be needed during any disaster whether stay at home or bug out. People will need water to drink, some food to eat, a place to go to the bathroom, and a way to carry supplies if evacuation is required.  This is a good time to set up the budget for preps, too. Won’t be much in it at first, but it needs to be started. It can be added to or changed as needed.

2nd Priority group: Important items, but not needed in many stay at home situations. It is important to have warnings of impending situations, especially weather related. But most homes have regular means to do this, like the Weather Channel or the news. Normally, people will be wearing seasonal clothing. Most homes already have some candles and a flashlight available. And there will have knives to use if staying inside.  Protection will not be needed in most disasters that are minor, and most disasters range from minor to moderate. But if it is needed, it will be needed in the worst way.

3rd Priority group: Items that will make life a bit easier. Most people will have a basic first aid kit at home with items for minor injuries and basic meds, along with needed prescription medications. They have bedding that can be used. Most people will have some form of transportation all ready and will not need a specific BOV/PAWV yet. Being able to cook some food will be a comfort, but foods that don’t need to be cooked should be available anyway. Tools and hardware will also be nice to have but usually are not critical.
 
4th Priority group: Most people will have IDs so some the documentation can wait a little while. Preferably reference books will be purchased as needed, but an extensive library, which will be good to have, can wait since other people will have skills and the library may be intact. Finances are another thing that should be done all along, and are expensive. Like finances, CBNRE/HAZMAT gear is expensive. If it is needed, it will be needed desperately, but the probabilities are lower than for many other disasters.

5th Priority group: These are items that need either much training or are expensive and not necessary in many disasters


(And a disclaimer. Change the level of priority as needed by your situation. I feel that having at least something for the majority of situations is more important than having high dollar items for low probability situations first. You can begin budgeting for them immediately, and should, and then get them as soon as you can, but prioritize. What are your needs in your situation? If you live in a bad neighborhood or will have to travel through one during an evacuation, you might want to consider a firearm closer to the top of the list, if you can legally own one. The same if you live near a nuke plant, you might want HAZMAT/CBNRE gear sooner despite the expense.

This is a suggested list, a guideline for those that are just starting out, not the Ten Commandments etched in stone for everyone to follow blindly. The list isn’t particularly for use by anyone that already knows what they are doing as you’ve probably already set your priorities and are acting on them. I repeat: Change the level of priority as needed by your situation.


1st Priority group:

Water. Store a lot, locate a reliable future source, get water treatment/purification. A few 15-gallon water drums, a couple of stainless steel water bottles with cups for the BOBs, a quality water purifier, either a high cap camping filter or a combination of a drip filter for the BIB and a smaller hikers filter for the BOBs. Scout out locations for long term supplies of water.

Food. No cook, add hot water only, & easy-cook shelf stable foods, heavy on meats, fruits, and comfort foods. For both BOB and BIB. Learn to garden and grow as much as you can as soon as you can. Ditto home canning when you get the garden going. Don't be afraid of the commercially produced crops like wheat and oats. You can grow non-hybrid/organic types in a home garden.

Fire. Several means to start one, and a couple of items to contain fire. Fire steel, Lifeboat matches, lighters with some tinder for the BOBs. To heat one room in the house, an indoor safe propane or kerosene heater with a supply of fuel stored outdoors. 
Sanitation/Hygiene. Chemical toilet, TP, hand washing means, bug spray, antiseptic cleaners, shovel to bury wastes. Toiletries. Charmin camper’s toilet paper and cleansing wipes for the BOBs. Infectious diseases protection supplies, face mask, gloves, goggles and hand sanitizer. And the ladies, and especially soon to be ladies, need large supplies of their needs on hand.

LBE. Equipment to carry your equipment when in the field. BOB/BIB/GHB/INCH bag/GOOD bag, etc. Packs, travois, game cart. I am a proponent of taking more than what you can comfortably carry in a back pack. Especially if you have children. Consider having some type of cart to carry heavier weights than you can on your backs, and give the little ones a chance to get off their feet.

Add everything to the budget list, mark down the quantities, purchase date and expire date, with the price per item and subtotal for that item.

Once the very basics of 1st Priority group items are obtained, and as additional items for it are acquired, go ahead and start on 2nd Priority group acquisitions. You do not need a year’s supply of 1st Priority items before you start on 2nd Priority group items. The 1st & 2nd Priority groups could be one huge group, but I feel that there should be some priorities because very few people can do it all at once. Add a few lines to the budget, down a ways, for the long term ideas and expensive ones that you will start seeing a need for someday


2nd Priority group:
   
Signals/Communications/Intelligence/Navigation. A wind up radio with NOAA weather alert (this could easily be the first item you should get if you’re in tornado alley or where coastal hurricanes occur), AM/FM, Short wave & a set of FRS/GRMS or MURS radios works for both BIB & BOB, Amateur Radios for LR comms, Binoculars, maps, compass, GPS, Flares/mirror/smoke/whistle. Forewarned is forearmed. If you know it is coming the better you can deal with it. And if you are lost or separated or trapped, having the means to signal will get you back a lot faster.

Season specific clothing/Shelter. The right clothes for the season. Basic camping gear in case the house becomes unlivable. You are probably already doing the right clothes for the given season, though here in Reno I see people going from heated homes to heated cars, to heated business and back again wearing a T-shirt, shorts, and flipflops in 20 degree weather with snow on the ground and coming down hard (I am not joking). Have what you need to keep you comfortable in the weather. And the camp gear is for when the house cannot be lived in and you need to camp out in the back yard or evacuate.

Lighting. Wind up LED flashlights. Indoor & outdoor. a couple of crank flashlights for both BIB and BOB, candles, propane lanterns, battery lanterns. Get some specifically for preps, even though you probably already have a couple with weak batteries and non-working bulbs.

Protection/Physical security. From wild domesticated animals, wild animals, and self-defense in those cases where it might be needed. Training, weapons, defensive measures. For some this is a much higher priority. Evaluate your needs and make the decision. They tend to be expensive, so set up a budget and start saving money for one now, even if you can’t get it yet due to the overall expense. Train, train, and train some more with them.

Sharps/Edged tools. Knives/SAK/Multi-tool, axe, saw, etc. Same as lighting. I’m fairly sure you have a knife or two in the house. Probably suitable for most uses, except lacking a sheath. But there are some blades that are better for field use and Swiss Army Knives (SAKs), and multi-tools can be handy, and if you need to build shelter or an outdoor fire, axes and saws will save you much labor.

At this point you should have a good feel for your family’s need, including longer term ones.

Once a good start on 1st & 2nd Priority group items are made, and as additional items for them are obtained, start on 3rd Priority group acquisitions. You do not need a year’s supply of 1st & 2nd Priority items to start on 3rd Priority group items.


3rd Priority group:

Sleeping: Sleeping bags, cots w/linens, sleeping pads. A space blanket for each person for the BOBs. If these aren’t automatically included in the camping gear you need to think about them if you have to bug out. Household bedding is fine for the house, if you can stay in it, and even use it in a tent if it is pitched in the back yard. But for evacuations, a sleeping bag is better, and a space blanket or space blanket bag are for last ditch sleeping and warmth.

Medical: Extensive first-aid kits, heavy on the trauma treatment for at the scene and in both BIBs & BOBs and the rest of the alphabet. These are supplemental kits to your regular home first aid kit. It’s is fine for minor cuts, abrasions, stings, and bruises. In a disaster the injuries are likely to be not only worse, but in great numbers. Stock up with quality in mind and with as much quantity as is possible. Another item to budget early on to get a bit later. And get some training.

Tools/Hardware/Cordage. To get you out if you’re trapped in, to get in to someone that is trapped. Tools and parts to make and repair items. 100+ feet of 550 cord for the BOBs, plenty of rope of several types for general use. Not everyone knows how to use many, or are physically unable to. These are primarily for at the scene of a disaster, but some items can be carried in the evacuation kits for minor things on the road.

Heat/cooling/Cooking: Means to maintain acceptable temperatures in home and in the field such as indoor safe propane and kerosene heaters. Gas grill w/tanks, various camping stoves for home or field to cook food when possible (but not in the house). No-cook, and add-hot-water-only foods are desirable in the early stages of a situation. But a hot drink and hot meal can raise the spirits and supply needed warmth in many situations. Not critical at first in some climate, but nice later on. Others will need to up this on the priority list if in a cold climate and suitable clothes for the weather won’t be available. This could include a generator in addition to non-electrical means so a refrigerator, freezer, AC, stove, etc. can be operated.

Transportation: A vehicular BOV if possible, Motorcycles, bicycles, animals, on foot. Since, in my opinion, the majority of disasters do not call for bugging out long distances, if at all, transportation is down here on the list. If you live in a tsunami zone, near an active or soon will probably be active volcano, you might want to up the priority level. And if you have children or pets or both, evacuation on foot is very difficult and calls for some more sophisticated measures

Add the time frame and amount for the long lead items that you plan to purchase and start saving a budgeted amount per month for that item/those items.


4th Priority group

Morale/Welfare/Recreation: Games, some small toys and some paper and pencils, religious books, movies, books. Something to keep the kids quiet and busy, adults entertained or comforted, or just to break the monotony.

Important Documents: IDs for everyone, Contact list, copies of insurance cards, etc. for the BOBs. There are several lists of what you need to have. This is another thing that, though probably doesn’t need to be budgeted for (except to get replacement birth certificates and passports) does need to be planned out and executed over time. You will be working with agencies of the government and big business with some of them and it just takes time. Start early and finish when you can will hopefully be good enough. It is serious enough for me to remind parents about children’s immunization records. Those could be a big deal.

Education and reference books. Going to need to how to do a lot of different things. Start accumulating as you see books and things on sale. Read over them and then put into good storage. Practice those things that are advantageous for ordinary times. Gardening, home canning, animal husbandry, auto repair, gun smithing.

Finances: cash, gold coins, silver coins, several dollars in small bills for the BOBs, debit card. This is special disaster related finances, not your everyday household budget. The things listed can, in various circumstances, be of great help. Or not. It is all situational. Some will take cash but not PMs, and some will take PMs but not cash, some won’t take either. Try to have something set aside if you have to evacuate.

CBRNE/HAZMAT gear: Extremely important if needed, but expensive and requires training. Radiation sensors, Respirator, Tyvek suit, other PPE. Bucket, brush, bleach to decontaminate. The cleansing items you probably already have. The PPE items are very important if needed. As stated above, if you live in an area where you have to think about nuke plants melting down, up the priority and get them in the budget for acquisition as soon as possible.


5th Priority group:

Wild food gathering (fishing equipment/hunting equipment/traps/game prep equipment, etc) This is long range planning. If you don’t already know how to hunt and fish, and process wild foods, you might want to work it into you schedule as you get more prepared.

Barter: Items to barter/trade to get things you need. For those that don’t think precious metals or cash will be any good, and to just have when having is better than not having. Don’t tie up junior
s college fund for it, but look at some of the many list on the forums that address trade and barter.

Spares: Spares for everything that uses consumables plus spare parts for critical items. Enough supplies for everyone when bugging out, a PAWV if money is no object. Once you get ‘things’, it doesn’t end. Some will need routine maintenance, some rotation, and some spare parts and extra consumables such as batteries.

Rappelling/climbing: Gear for those trained that might need to do some vertical work. Nice to know. Could save a life, even yours. But don’t even think about it without getting some serious training and some very expensive, quality gear.

Everything else. Stuff that doesn’t apply to me or I never think about.

Plus what I forgot. And I always forget something.


You basically then start over, on a new level, increasing the amounts of the consumables and adding various equipment you have discovered that will make your preps work better for you. Either your budget sheet or a specific expiration date/rotate date sheet  will start having consumables marked off as you rotate, use, and replace what you use.

From this point you are in a position where you are thinking things through on you own, studying the available literature, checking vendor sites and Forums for more knowledge.


Just my opinion on the subject.

I disagree, slightly, with the first five.

I would list them as follows.

1. Water: no question here, definitely top five and top for most.
2. Food: Same. While one can last for several days without, they won't be up to doing anything.
3. Fire: For heat, light, signaling, cooking
4. Sanitation: Everybody has to go and want privacy while doing it. And without proper disposal, illness is just around the corner.
5. LBE: You need some way to carry the items above if you can't stay where you are.

6. Security: Guns and other means (could go in the first five if one lives where it is an immediate need.)
7. Medical: Will be needed at some point most likely.
8. Signals/communication: Some way to find out what is happening as well as two way communications with the group.
9. Lightning: Things happen in the dark. You need a reliable, portable way to see in it.
10. Sharps: You are going to need a knife at least, and possibly several other edged tools.


11. Season specific clothing. You're stranded if you don't have clothing that will get you through the weather at the time of the incident.
12. Cooking tools to go along with the fire. A hot meal will become a real morale booster as things play out.
13. Sleeping materials: Need better means than a blanket off the bed in many situations and if travelling.
14. Tools/Hardware/Cordage: For repairs or simple construction.
15. Transportation: While bugging in is preferred, if you have to bug out, using a vehicle to get you at least part way would be a great help.

There are another ten or so primary ones I can think of. Including HAZMAT gear, which would be higher up on the list if living near any nuclear facility.

Just my thoughts on the matter.


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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 05:11:53 PM »
Think about what life would be like for you and your wife if you didn't dodge the bullet of Sandy and keep in mind what your priorities would be then.  Clean water, food (and the ability to prepare it), sanitation, a way to stay warm, a way to move about without lights, and a way to protect yourselves.

Several cases of bottled water sorts out the first one for a couple weeks (store at minimum 1 gallon per day per person).  Beyond that, you should eventually add the capacity to filter and/or treat water.

2-4 weeks of easy to prepare food that is similar to what you eat every day.  Pasta, rice, powdered mashed potatoes, Lipton or Rice-a-roni pre-seasoned pasta and rice dishes, Hamburger Helper, oatmeal, along canned soups, fruits and veggies are an easy way to deepen your pantry on a budget and not have to deal with the stress of a major change in your diet.  Eventually you can round these out with cans of freeze dried hamburger and chicken that will store for 20+ years, but start with the basics first.

Think about how you'd cook without electricity.  You may already have a solution with a camping stove, a propane grill (although you may want to buy an additional bottle or two), or a sterno heater.  However, if you don't there are many low cost options at camping stores including full-sized butane burners.  You may also have a generator or other means to run a microwave to give you another option.

For sanitation, it's hard to beat a 5 gallon bucket with a snap on toilet seat and a roll of small kitchen garbage bags with a bottle of bleach.  We were so grateful for ours a few years ago when we had a tree root stop up our sewer line and had to go without flushing for a couple days before the roto-rooter guy could fix the problem.

Eventually you'll want to look at alternate ways of heating including buying something like a Mr. Heater Big Buddy or similar heater and a couple propane tanks.  Cordoning off a small room can help a little bit of heat go a long way.


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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 03:39:34 PM »
Last 2 posts were great! I've got some notes and figuring to do.
One question I do have his, I had some water stored in our 72 Emergency Tote, and one of the 4L jugs leaked. Is there an easy, simple way to store non-bottled water?
I do plan on picking up a Berkey (sp?) filter system at some point.
I am also not a "Doomsday Preppers"/TEOTWAWKI type of person...no worries there...

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Re: Starting to prepare...
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 10:00:27 PM »
Last 2 posts were great! I've got some notes and figuring to do.
One question I do have his, I had some water stored in our 72 Emergency Tote, and one of the 4L jugs leaked. Is there an easy, simple way to store non-bottled water?
I do plan on picking up a Berkey (sp?) filter system at some point.
I am also not a "Doomsday Preppers"/TEOTWAWKI type of person...no worries there...
I have a couple of these that I keep filled and use for hunting and camping all the time.  Super durable, great little spigot so it's easy to use them for normal kitchen duties (just put it on the edge of the sink or tailgate of your truck and you have a place to wash hands, dishes, etc.).  Milk jugs and those 2.5 gallon thin plastic jugs from the grocery store will fail in about 18-24 months unless very carefully stored.  I've had them leak numerous times, so I wouldn't trust anything that thin ever again.  2 liter bottles are excellent and much more robust than the thinner lightweight water bottles and milk jugs.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the Berkey filters.  Instead, I'd rather spend $50 on a gravity fed or squeeze bottle system like the Sawyer that is guaranteed for one million gallons, can be back flushed, and is something portable that you could easily take with you if you had to evacuate and had limited space in your car.  several variations available.
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