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Offline yodal

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Whats a good price on a AR?
« on: November 18, 2012, 10:16:41 AM »
I met a guy last night that tells me he can sell me an AR for $800.
He was kind of a squirrley fellow, but he knows his guns!
He told me that he gets all the parts for the gun and sells it as a kit.
He says, if you assemble the gun, it is totally legal.
Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2012, 10:51:11 AM »
It wouldn't be too tough to find one assembled for $800. . .  Any time I hear "squirrly", "assembly", "totally legal" in a short question like this, I get concerned.

It would depend on how much you "trust" this guy, that he is offering you a "quality" kit for the $800 he's asking.  Is he offering to loan you the tools needed to put this "kit" together?
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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2012, 11:47:47 AM »
You can buy one assembled at Wal Mart for $800

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2012, 01:35:42 PM »
A good price depends on what you want in the rifle - you can get your foot into the ar-15 world for less.  While I don't think you can save much money going the parts are parts route; you do skip out on the 10% Federal tax from assembling (not making) your own.  A simple route would be to go to a Walmart store and see what what they offer.  I sort of like the Colt over the Bushmaster but that's my perspective.

One way to spread out the shock to the budget is to buy a good quality lower; and assembled upper by the same mfg.  When the budget allows, you can buy the parts for the lower and assemble it yourself - or have someone who can. 

My first "completed" AR-15 I went to the local Fun store and bought a nice lower, and about 6 months later I found the upper I wanted and it was that easy to get a fully functioning rifle.  Little did I know that the upper I wanted (heavy barrel, very good long range) was not the one I should have picked up (16" barrel, faster twist rate).  So about a year later I found the "perfect" upper and just popped the pins on the heavy weight and now I have a good light weight rifle that's good for overall plinking and worked fine at the Project Appleseed shoot.

So a good price range for parts kit - about 600 - 900 dollars.  Very much more you would often be better buying a fully assembled rifle (or assembled rifle upper / lower).     The real good thing about building your own rifle is getting just the right parts.  The real bad thing, it may take a few rifle builds before you know just what the right parts are for you and what you plan on using it.

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2012, 02:20:22 PM »
It wouldn't be too tough to find one assembled for $800. . . Any time I hear "squirrly", "assembly", "totally legal" in a short question like this, I get concerned.

It would depend on how much you "trust" this guy, that he is offering you a "quality" kit for the $800 he's asking.  Is he offering to loan you the tools needed to put this "kit" together?

Absolutely.

Prices on ARs have gone down, way down, from where they were 4 yrs. ago. There is a glut of them on the market and so many manufacturers. Buy quality, buy once (unless you are inclined to accumulate firearms  ;) ). I was stunned recently to discover Wal-Mart selling Colt 6920s for about 300 less than I paid 5 yrs. ago. at a near wholesale price.

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2012, 06:18:26 PM »
Here in Central Texas yo can get a Smith & Wesson M&P AR-15 Sport for just over $600. 

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2012, 07:06:24 PM »
At the available prices from reputable makers like Colts and S&W, from big box outlets, there is no need to go parts or "I met a guy..." If you want better than mil-spec (and know what that means, that price has come down too. If you know what you are doing and have the right tools, you can build a high end rifle for what Bushmaster used to charge. You also know why you want what you want.

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2012, 09:17:02 PM »
I agree with Muddyboots, but with exceptions.  If you're looking for something really specific in an AR, like I was, you may have to assemble it from parts or sub-assemblies.  For example, I wanted the lightest-weight 5.56 I could make without resorting to NFA or expensive metals.  So, I bought a New Frontiers polymer lower, lightweight 3-position stock, and a lightweight flat-top carbine upper.  I am going to replace the hand guard on the upper with a lighter-weight one.  I probably couldn't easily find a carbine with all these features in my price range.  But by shopping around, I'm getting all that done for under $600.

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2012, 02:01:07 AM »
I agree with Muddyboots, but with exceptions.  If you're looking for something really specific in an AR, like I was, you may have to assemble it from parts or sub-assemblies.  For example, I wanted the lightest-weight 5.56 I could make without resorting to NFA or expensive metals.  So, I bought a New Frontiers polymer lower, lightweight 3-position stock, and a lightweight flat-top carbine upper.  I am going to replace the hand guard on the upper with a lighter-weight one.  I probably couldn't easily find a carbine with all these features in my price range.  But by shopping around, I'm getting all that done for under $600.

Interesting . . . .  You'll have to fill is in with better detail (and pic's) when you get it completed.  And let us now how it does at the range too.
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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2012, 12:36:35 PM »
Will do, Nelson.  Lower is coming in this week, and I am also ordering the upper this week.  I was waiting for our local gun show this weekend to see if I could find any deals on uppers.  TOTAL BUST.  They are using the fear of an Obama gun ban to jack prices up.  I can buy an upper from MidwayUSA SHIPPED for about $50 less than I can buy its equivalent at the gun show (where I have to pay sales tax).

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2012, 01:28:51 PM »
I agree with you guys on the specialty ARs. I felt that it was beyond the scope of the OP. I'm building a specialized rifle myself right now, It is based around a very expensive custom match barrel at 26". Having come to the unfortunate realization that I would need to go that particular route to get my desired results, of course I'm going to parts build. In my case it isn't really a money saver but a performance requirement. I also have the tools and experience to do it myself.

Do tell us about that UL-AR project!

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Re: Whats a good price on a AR?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 06:53:07 PM »
Here in Central Texas yo can get a Smith & Wesson M&P AR-15 Sport for just over $600.

Here in CT, the same gun is selling for $650.  Until recently the non-sport model was selling for $750.