One more thought, and it might be a subject for a different thread, but suppose the crisis the crisis that many are predicting is not a sudden drop but a long, slow, decline? Suppose that instead of battalions of people marching around in open defiance of the constitution, suppose instead that we just continue what we've been doing.
It's my view that it is far more likely, in any event, that through the lawful election of corrupt leaders (on both sides of the aisle) America will continue to basically ask nicely to have personal freedoms stripped away. America keeps peeing its money and its soldiers away on foreign wars. America keeps taxing, taking, and redistributing - a little more here, a little more there. Suppose it doesn't happen all at once (I suspect it won't).
Suppose it is all kosher, everything happens according to the law of the land, the actions of Congress, the President, the Courts?
At what point do you cut your losses? Suppose they take 40% of your money in taxes. What if they raise it to 50%. Then 80%.
What about if they institute a federal property tax, and then take your land when you can't pay it, so they can use the money for whatever BS they want to use it for?
Since there has been no total breakdown in society - since the laws were enacted legally - if you fight them violently when they show up to take their cut, you will be taken in as a terrorist and a criminal.
If you refuse to pay, you risk losing everything you own and jailtime to boot.
Or do you pay it, month after month, year after year, no matter how obscene it becomes, privately furious and privately stewing and angry about the whole situation? Suppose you wake up in the morning and suddenly realise that you simply aren't happy and there is no end in sight? Then what?
At what point do you look around and realize that the socialists have basically won, not through force of arms, but by taking over EDUCATION, THE MEDIA, and the ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.
They already control these institutions pretty tightly and they're not going to let go of them. They can basically say whatever they want to say, regardless of its veracity, and are educating (indoctrinating) America's youth as we speak.
So suppose it just pans out as a slow squeeze instead of a sudden crisis, where the people who have stuff are slowly forced, through the rule of law, to share what they have with the dregs of society.
I'd argue that the train has already left the station and it's going to take a lot to stop it. Maybe at this point it can't be stopped. For me, the threshold has pretty much already been crossed. I don't think the train is going to stop and go back to the station. I think it's going to keep rolling down the tracks. The line for me, as far as defining how much of my stuff I am OK wish sharing, has already been crossed, and unless there was some kind of monumental reform made in the way they ta and spend (and it would have to be earth-shattering), I don't see America as being that far ahead, in actuality, of a lot of other places in the world that I have visited, and I only see it contracting in the future as a result of its chosen leaders and chosen policies.
So maybe you haven't reaching your threshold yet. That's ok. But don't criticize me for bailing just because of where I've set the bar, especially if you haven't yet settled on what you own threshold for freedom looks like.