Joe and nelson,
Thanks for the feedback. I don't necessarily WANT a tactical knife, but that tends to be what feels best in my hand and lends itself to ergonomic use in my experiance.
I had a gerber mini covert and the next size up too, I loved it and hated it for being so damn small. I may go that route, thanks for mentioning it, I hadn't thought about that in a while. Doesn't that one have the slide bar safety to keep it closed?
And as far as the SOCOM goes, its not the MSRP , its not as rediculous as the resale price on those things. I've owned two original models, and I can't find the original model now even used for under 300 or 400. A new elite model msrp for just over 200 and for that knife, its worth it. It really is. Best folder I have ever owned. Twice. But alas, I don't think I am going to be able to afford it for awhile. People get real proud of their MT's for good reason, but I'm looking for a work horse and not a shelf piece I shave hair off my arm with to scare my duaghter's boy friend (I don't have a daughter, but if I did, she wouldn't have a boyfriend, and if she did, I would shave hair off my arm to scare him) with, so I don't want to pay for someone's pride.
The original swats fortunately come in a full plain edge, this may be the routue I end up going, for economy and utility. I can get papa, mama, and baby bear sizes for less than a socom. That's not bad. The ti lites are a bit high, and they seem kinda like a BSK (big scary knife) and the stiletto profile make people and cops raise eyebrows and think they need to watch that guy.
I will check the Ka-Bar folders out, I like Ka-Bars so their folders should be a good deal for that price. Thanks good info.