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My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« on: November 29, 2012, 08:55:16 PM »
Personally, I think "weapons" should be removed from the forum title here. "Edged Blades" or whatever should attracted much less attention from govt. And since govt would be wasting their time looking at people here we shouldn't draw them to the forum. Let them go look where they need to be looking.

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 10:14:41 PM »
Well, we also have "Black Powder and Primitive Weapons".  Not to mention a bunch of other boards containing the words "firearms", "guns", "pistols", "rifles", "shotguns", "ammo", "self defense", "hand to hand combat", etc.  So the government can probably find us anyway.

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 10:17:47 PM »
I'm sure the words "prepping" and "Alex Jones" light up more than "weapon".

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2012, 10:21:31 PM »
Yes you are right! I've never posted about this because harping about something like this seems to be "liberal" to me (and liberal is always bad right?). But edged anything to me isn't a weapon, it is a tool. Firearms are the same way to me, they are just a tool. I just don't see things as "weapons" even though something might be used as defense. "Weapon" to me is in the eye's of the criminal. However, I am posting while drunk so cut me some slack.  ;D

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2012, 11:44:29 PM »
I'm sure the govt stopped lighting up for AJ when they started listening to him. I listen every now and then but he's just too damn melodramatic for me.
   Tex makes a good point though. Not from the gov't is watching you perspective but definitely from the a knife is a tool, and only a weapon when used in violence. Its kinda newspeaky if you go further than that, but the point is a good one. I'm not saying we should replace weapon with tool, but "& tools" might be a good addition. Maybe not too important since most probably think that way already. Have a good night tex.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 11:49:39 PM »
I believe in calling a spade a spade, unless it might needlessly hurt someone's feelings. I don't think sharp pointy things that are designed to kill mind too much being called weapons.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 12:11:20 AM »
Also a great point. (Pun? Yeah, I did that on purpose) weapons are tools too. Its all semantics at this point.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 08:42:20 AM »
Yes you are right! I've never posted about this because harping about something like this seems to be "liberal" to me (and liberal is always bad right?). But edged anything to me isn't a weapon, it is a tool. Firearms are the same way to me, they are just a tool. I just don't see things as "weapons" even though something might be used as defense. "Weapon" to me is in the eye's of the criminal. However, I am posting while drunk so cut me some slack.  ;D

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I use my knife all the time, but have never intentionally cut anyone.  I have a blunt weapons all over the place in my garage, but I have never intentionally used my hammer to hit anyone.  I agree it is all about intent.  I also agree the forum name is one of the last thing to get this website or any of its' users flagged.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 09:32:21 AM »
There.  Is that better?

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 09:49:27 AM »
There.  Is that better?

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 11:04:03 AM »
Hmmmm. That's all.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 11:24:53 AM »
Edged Weapons and Tools and Pointy Things and Spades Which Are Spades But Only If They Have Sharpened Edges

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 11:51:02 AM »
I believe in calling a spade a spade, unless it might needlessly hurt someone's feelings. I don't think sharp pointy things that are designed to kill mind too much being called weapons.

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 12:14:19 PM »
I believe in calling a spade a spade, unless it might needlessly hurt someone's feelings. I don't think sharp pointy things that are designed to kill mind too much being called weapons.

Guns are tools which are designed for killing, but killing is pretty far down the list as far as designed uses for knives goes. Yes, they can be used to kill, but I would be willing to bet that 99.9% of all people above the age of 10 have used a knife. Maybe 0.01% of those people have used a knife to kill anything. I would even guess that less than 10% have used a knife post-kill for gutting/skinning purposes. 

My primary uses for my knives are as follows:
1. Food prep
2. Envelopes
3. Whittling
4. Gardening
5. Opening plastic packaging
6. Cutting loose strings on my clothes off
7. Pretending it is a machete and chopping branches off of trees while making new trails

It is true that knives can be effective weapons. So can rocks.  So can a 2x4. So can a pickup truck. A knife is first and foremost a tool.

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 12:23:58 PM »
Well said. Well said. Tools they are. Wether it be carving a block or wood, a turkey or a two legged rat, knives are there to get the job done.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 12:27:42 PM »
Edged Weapons and Tools and Pointy Things and Spades Which Are Spades But Only If They Have Sharpened Edges
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2012, 09:45:00 PM »
Are we not responsible citizens, why should we feel any obligation to soften our terminology just to stay off the government radar? 
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2012, 09:57:29 PM »
Now people are going to thing that this is the forum to talk about hammers and wrenches and other non-edged tools.  Way to sow confusion.  Maybe it should be "edged tools that are not always but can be used as weapons."
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2012, 10:11:31 PM »
Edged × (Weapons + Tools)

Any Things With Sharp Edges Unless They Got That Way Accidentally Like Broken Glass Unless You're Using The Sharp Edge Intentionally And Not Just Bleeding Because You Put Your Head Through A Window

We can have a child board for using papercuts in self-defense, if you'd like.

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2012, 10:14:20 PM »
I've heard Jack rant quite a bit about people stigmatizing words to the point where we no longer use them.

Let's not do that.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2012, 10:58:18 PM »
Well said absit,
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2012, 11:41:11 PM »
Guns are tools which are designed for killing, but killing is pretty far down the list as far as designed uses for knives goes. Yes, they can be used to kill, but I would be willing to bet that 99.9% of all people above the age of 10 have used a knife. Maybe 0.01% of those people have used a knife to kill anything. I would even guess that less than 10% have used a knife post-kill for gutting/skinning purposes. 

My primary uses for my knives are as follows:
1. Food prep
2. Envelopes
3. Whittling
4. Gardening
5. Opening plastic packaging
6. Cutting loose strings on my clothes off
7. Pretending it is a machete and chopping branches off of trees while making new trails

It is true that knives can be effective weapons. So can rocks.  So can a 2x4. So can a pickup truck. A knife is first and foremost a tool.




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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2012, 12:12:30 AM »
Edged × (Weapons + Tools)

Any Things With Sharp Edges Unless They Got That Way Accidentally Like Broken Glass Unless You're Using The Sharp Edge Intentionally And Not Just Bleeding Because You Put Your Head Through A Window

We can have a child board for using papercuts in self-defense, if you'd like.

+1 Mr. Bill

Incidentally, I've used my knives to injure myself more often than "bad guys".  In fact, our medic kept a journal about knives in our company.  Prior to deploying to Iraq in 2004-2005 it seemed that every infantryman in our company needed a Rambo 9-12 inch fighting knife.  Our medical sergeant showed us his journal at the end of the deployment.  It simply stated: 143 self inflicted knife wounds / 0 Iraqis killed with a knife.  Pretty definitive....
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2012, 01:50:13 AM »
I asked a Navy SEAL about knife fighting, he said he didn't learn a lot of knife fighting in the teams. He did learn some knife killing but when it came to knife fighting, this was his opinion, if your are down to fighting with a knife, you did something wrong somewhere and all the knife fighting skill in the world probably isn't going to save you. I asked a Recon Marine about knife fighting, his opinion: "don't do it. Just don't." He told me that even today if someone pulled a knife on him, his plan was to exit stage left as quickly as possible. If that was impossible, then he said get a weapon and kill that guy fast. So I can totally see the 143 self inflicted injuries vs 0 dead enemies with a knife. Thanks for sharing that bit of reality Flippy.
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2012, 12:01:58 AM »
There.  Is that better?

Yes, now I can post here about killing snakes with my shovel.  ;D

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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2012, 12:18:11 AM »
Edged Weapons and Tools and Pointy Things and Spades Which Are Spades But Only If They Have Sharpened Edges

Unless, of course, you hammer your spade into an AK47!   :excited:
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2012, 12:32:54 AM »
Yes, now I can post here about killing snakes with my shovel.  ;D

Dang!  The last snake I killed was in the garage and I did it with a wooden baseball bat.  I guess I can't post that in this thread.  Of course.....the observant person would notice how I subtly did......

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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2012, 07:56:26 AM »
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2012, 09:10:44 AM »
Yes you are right! I've never posted about this because harping about something like this seems to be "liberal" to me (and liberal is always bad right?). But edged anything to me isn't a weapon, it is a tool. Firearms are the same way to me, they are just a tool. I just don't see things as "weapons" even though something might be used as defense. "Weapon" to me is in the eye's of the criminal. However, I am posting while drunk so cut me some slack.  ;D
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Re: My Two Cents About This Forum Title
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2012, 12:46:03 PM »
Oh i feel a custom title coming on....

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