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Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« on: December 02, 2012, 06:38:39 PM »
What do you guys think of this beast?  One of the many features is it allows you to pull rounds (different types of rounds if you choose) from two seperate integrated magazines.



http://utasturk.com/utas-turk-uts15_urunler-uts15.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_o3YsUVAyQ&feature=em-uploademail
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 06:57:36 PM »
That there is some sweet gun porn.

I am partial to the AA-12 like Brody's from Predators


http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/usa/atchisson-aa-12-e.html





I also seem to remember someone posting  pic of a shotgun that had two magazine tubes but they were side by side so the front of the gun looked like a soft triangle.  It was damn sweet as well.
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 09:17:47 PM »
Shauny,
   The gun you are referring to may well be the Kel-Tech KSG. It has that configuration and looks pretty sweet with it. This uta is a behemoth! Looks sweet. Looks HEAVY. In science fiction there is a concept called BDO. It means Big Dumb Object. Think ringworld. Its not really a insult most of the time for something to get this acronym applied to it, just kind of saying "wow, that's maybe bigger than necessary, but its still cool!"
   I say this lovinngly and without mailce or jealousy, that is a BDG! That AA-12 is sweet.
   I think its name lends to some sort of alcoholics themed joke. I just gotta think it up. Anyway, those are some sweet boomsticks.
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 09:27:38 PM »
This uta is a behemoth! Looks sweet. Looks HEAVY. In science fiction there is a concept called BDO. It means Big Dumb Object.

I don't know what is concidered heavy for a tactical weapon like this, but the UTS-15 is less than 7 pounds, which seems pretty reasonable to me.  The AA-12 is nearly 11-1/2 pounds without the magazine.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 09:34:25 PM by nelson96 »
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 12:34:34 AM »
Nelson,
Thanks for the info man, I didnt fact check the weight and just went of the looks. That's pretty light for such a big gun. And the AA-12 is really heavy but I'm a big guy anyway and don't mind a little extra weight in my equipment as long as it pulls its own weight when I need it too, what I would mind is being in the kind of situation where I would absolutely need this kind of weapon as opposed to being able to handle it with something a little more traditional. I don't think I would like to be in that situation at all. Still, its a sweet iron.
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 08:19:28 AM »
I would like to shoot any of them, purely for fun.  I don't want to be in any situatin where I need to shoot a gun, but like shooting all of them nonetheless.
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2012, 08:35:59 AM »
Agreed, but I don't have cool enough or rich enough friends to get to play with stuff like this.
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 09:00:10 AM »
Agreed, but I don't have cool enough or rich enough friends to get to play with stuff like this.

Yeah, me neither. :(

Anyone else have cool shotgun porn?
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 09:57:50 AM »
Agreed, but I don't have cool enough or rich enough friends to get to play with stuff like this.

...cough....maybe could arrange something in the future.....cough.....
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 11:07:33 AM »
...cough....maybe could arrange something in the future.....cough.....

Cough......yippie.........cough



Also, the AA12 is an excellent duck gun....lol




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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 11:52:58 AM »
...cough....maybe could arrange something in the future.....cough.....

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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2012, 11:56:34 AM »
I guess I forgot to mention that being a gunsmith, you make a few NFA dealer friends.  Some of them like the use of a....uh....private range to play with toys from time to time....

That's how I found out, <quote> "Momma wants an Uzi."
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 05:40:46 PM »
UTS-15 Shotgun to retail for $1,500 . . .  Ouch!

From the press release ...
UTAS’ Director of U.S. Operations, Matt Guzeldere stated, “We’ve been working with UTAS Makine, Ltd. the Turkish company that developed the UTS-15, to set up American manufacturing for quite sometime. It has been a difficult process that required building a lot of duplicate and expensive tooling, such as polymer injection molds. We have a license agreement, all of the tooling in place and have started producing parts. Of course we’ll be training personnel, running the first guns through product qualification tests and ramping up production, so we’re anticipating delivering the first American made UTS-15’s in late May or early June. ”

The UTS-15 tactical 12 ga. pump shotgun is a patented, ground-up design utilizing fiber reinforced polymers for over 85% of its parts and is the first such firearm to have the receiver molded completely from polymer. At only 28.5” in overall length and weighing only 6.9 lbs, but with top-mounted alternately feeding magazines providing a total capacity of 15 rounds, the UTS-15 has truly broken new ground in tactical shotgun design. As standard features on the Military & Police Model and separately purchased accessories for civilians, there is a built in point-and-shoot impact centered, focused-beam LED spotlight, adjustable laser sight, flip-up large aperture peep or V rear sight, a glow-in-the-dark bead front sight and a screw in, breaching muzzle extension.

From what my research can gather ...
  • The top side magazine tubes will most certainly help with muzzle rise
  • You can independently load each magazine tube with different ammunition dependent on your perceived situation
  • The independent two-sided magazine tubes are easy to load with the additional benefit of not being left without fire power if you load one side before the other is depleted
  • The selector switch that allows use of one magazine tube, or the other, is easy to access and offers an additional choice of alternating between each tube on each pull of the trigger
  • There is a built in point-and-shoot impact centered, focused-beam LED spotlight and adjustable laser sight.  Though it's nice to have these features and the chosen placement of the spotlight is optimum for any firearm, the only negative is that you are limited to using theirs
  • The fiber reinforced polymer used certainly lowers the weight (only 6.9 lbs unloaded), and we know how robust it is being that it is widely used in many handguns today, but it is also known to disintegrate if taken by a direct hit from another firearm
  • The 28.5” overall length is also a bonus
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 10:06:19 AM »
Totally Cool!!! 8)
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 11:16:54 AM »
Check this viedo out, a review by nutnfancy.,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrCBTU89kBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Looks like the uts-15 need a lot mire work.

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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2012, 11:32:37 AM »
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2012, 11:42:44 AM »
Check this viedo out, a review by nutnfancy.,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrCBTU89kBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Looks like the uts-15 need a lot mire work.

Bummer . . .  Hopefully they work through these issues. And I'm sure they will.
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2012, 04:55:18 PM »
I just don't see why anyone would want to carry that thing.  I think that changing ammo is overrated.  I guess that Saiga has it beat in price, reliablity, and it is almost as quick to change ammo.

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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2012, 09:37:27 AM »
I just don't see why anyone would want to carry that thing.

Peace through superior firepower?
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Re: Could This Be The Best Tactical Shotgun - The UTAS UTS-15
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 01:59:54 PM »
Check this viedo out, a review by nutnfancy.,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrCBTU89kBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Looks like the uts-15 need a lot mire work.

Not having experience myself with shooting a bull pup designed firearm, or a pump of any kind, I guess I took from the video what you did.  After watching a video by hickok45, it appears that nutnfancy isn't familiar with "short shucking" either.  Maybe he should shoot with more pump action rifles before he tries to do anymore reviews.

In the video, hickok45 does a quick comparison of the UTS-15 and the KSG.  He explained why nutnfancy had his feeding issues and he did a pretty good job explaining pros and cons between the two.  In the end, he did pick the KSG for himself.
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