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Current active shooter thread [ARCHIVED]
« on: March 31, 2014, 01:03:39 PM »
I am just lumping all of them in one thread from now on..
Today's current one besides the Naval station in Washington State.

5 minutes ago:
"Active shooter" reported at Stevenson University in Maryland. No more info yet.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 01:51:25 PM »
I am just lumping all of them in one thread from now on..

I'm sorry that the world makes this a reasonable thing to do. :(

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 01:52:55 PM »
Me too.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 02:36:37 PM »
Check the source on the Maryland event. They just passed a bunch of laws to prevent that sort of thing.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 02:50:33 PM »
Of course 20 years ago we just called these things "going Postal" or domestic violence spread into the workplace or disgruntled worker on a rampage.  Now the term 'active shooter' has gone mainstream so we tend to lump all these events together, whether it's a school shooting, a domestic violence situation, or a workplace violence issue.  I don't know if it's just because the media likes the ratings because everyone tunes in to get the latest on an event which is usually over before the media even puts out the first story or if there's some bigger force pressing the issue, but it really seems to ratchet up the fear level when folks think it might be them next and the violence is everywhere. 

Remember the huge uptick in violence with 16 separate mass shootings in 2012?  It marked the second year in a row where homicides bottomed out at the lowest point since the 1960s at 4.7/100,000 (compared to a peak in 1980 of 10.2/100,000 and 1993 of 9.5/100,000).  It astounds me how the media can spin things to make it seem like we live in a more dangerous time than ever before, but violent crimes are at near-record lows.  Only in 1962 and 1963 did homicide reach 4.6, the lowest in modern record keeping (and based on some studies, the lowest in US history).

Fear causes people to make irrational decisions.  It drives people to act now rather than wait, which in turn causes debt spending, which drives company profits.  Who could possibly be behind this manipulation? ::)

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 05:48:35 AM »
"While we are relieved with this safe outcome, this has been a sobering experience for us and our families," Manning wrote to students and staff. "This reminds us all of the importance of our 'see something, say something' mantra. Nothing is more important than your safety."

"It appears that the incident was caused by two students who had the poor judgment of hunting in the woods with two BB rifles near campus," University president Kevin Manning said in a statement Monday.

Remember, as Ralphie's mother said, "You'll shoot your eye out..."  ::)


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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2014, 03:55:03 PM »
Active shooter on FT Hood right now. I don't have many details because I got a call from my BIL who is in lockdown on base. Just thought I would FYI ya.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2014, 04:01:46 PM »
Active shooter on FT Hood right now. I don't have many details because I got a call from my BIL who is in lockdown on base. Just thought I would FYI ya.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/02/report-shooting-at-fort-hood/#
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There are reports of a shooting at Fort Hood, according to KCEN-TV.

According to the local news outlet, there are reports of multiple injuries from a possible shooting at the military base.

The suspect is still reportedly at large.


Wonder if it's related to this:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/01/military-hunts-one-time-recruit-planning-ft-hood-style-jihad/

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 04:06:22 PM »
http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood
Early unconfirmed reports: three shot, shooter still at large.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 04:30:27 PM »
Fort Hood
- FBI on scene
- 8 injured
- 1 dead
- 2 suspects
- Central Texas College evacuated Via KCEN-TV
At least 20 shots fired. 8 taken to hospital. Reports of 3 dead. Shooter still at large.
18 ambulances, people being shuffled to them.

LIVE FEEDS
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/category/222254/cbs-livestream
http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood


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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 04:35:04 PM »
Is this the Jihadist they were looking for that was going to do a Ft. Hood style attack?  If so he reqally tried to copy it.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 04:47:48 PM »
Is this the Jihadist they were looking for that was going to do a Ft. Hood style attack?  If so he reqally tried to copy it.

I heard that too, TheRancher. I only saw it on the news crawler on FOX that the FBI was looking since Fri for a guy that was about to leave for Basic training and was rejected because the FBI learned of his intentions. Didn't see anything else about it

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 04:48:26 PM »
From the news, they seem to know who one of them is. They say he is a medical chemical worker?

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2014, 04:54:53 PM »
1 person in custody, 2nd being sought - confirmed

Fort Hood soldiers watching the news from Fort Irwin


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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2014, 04:59:04 PM »
Is this the Jihadist they were looking for that was going to do a Ft. Hood style attack?  If so he reqally tried to copy it.

FBI, military hunt ex-Army recruit suspected of plotting 'Ft. Hood-inspired jihad'
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/01/military-hunts-one-time-recruit-planning-ft-hood-style-jihad/

I could only find it on Fox

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 05:05:12 PM »
FBI, military hunt ex-Army recruit suspected of plotting 'Ft. Hood-inspired jihad'
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/01/military-hunts-one-time-recruit-planning-ft-hood-style-jihad/

I could only find it on Fox

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Huh, that looks familiar.  ;)



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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 05:07:25 PM »
Sorry. Z was heading out the door. SP was hungry. Trying to listen to the news. Duckling lady coming..

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 05:18:57 PM »
Shooter at Fort Hood is dead, U.S. officials tell CNN; still looking for another
15 people injured

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 05:21:52 PM »
Thanks guys. I was heading out taking baby to a dr appointment and didn't have time to post or find legit news. I'm sitting in dr lobby now.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2014, 05:26:40 PM »
Currently they think the only shooter is down. Fort Hood gunman died of self-inflicted wound,

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Re: Current active shooter thread
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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2014, 05:50:25 PM »
4 soldiers in critical condition


Current numbers - At least 4 dead, including gunman, in Ft. Hood shootings, Texas Rep. Michael McCaul tells CNN. Not clear if that is the above soldiers too.

Ivan Lopez has been ID'd as the shooter


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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2014, 08:11:52 PM »
NEW ONE:
Kent State University
in Ohio says shot fired near Bowman Hall at main campus, students told to seek shelter.

Scanner http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/2106

Kent State's Bowman Hall and Business Administration Building now being evacuated. According to scanner traffic, police have found blood near Bowman Hall and are taping an area off

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2014, 09:15:11 PM »
Fort Hood has lifted the lockdown. 4 dead. 14 injured.
us.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=26048&external=2605816.proteus.fma

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2014, 09:25:50 PM »
I will never understand why we trust young men and women in uniform to protect and defend the interests of the United States around the world, but they're not permitted to protect themselves while on US soil.  There is something wrong when even the officers on US bases don't carry weapons.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2014, 10:02:20 PM »
If anything I would rather officers not carry loaded weapons. My favorite negligent discharge was from my old Squadron Commander trying to clear his weapon. Has a loaded M4, racks the handle and a round flies out. Looks confused and racks it again, another round flies out. Shrugs his shoulders and pulls the trigger, into the floorboard of his humvee. Apparently he required a new drain hole.

I was deployed from Hood when the Maj whatever his name was shooting happened.

It really is quite comical. During basic training you carry a weapon almost all the time to become comfortable with it, just no ammo.

When you get to your unit you can't touch a weapon without "daddy."

When you deploy you get your weapon and 210+ rounds of ammo and always have at least 30 on you 24 hours a day.

Return from deployment it is back to "daddy."


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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2014, 10:31:11 PM »
If anything I would rather officers not carry loaded weapons. My favorite negligent discharge was from my old Squadron Commander trying to clear his weapon. Has a loaded M4, racks the handle and a round flies out. Looks confused and racks it again, another round flies out. Shrugs his shoulders and pulls the trigger, into the floorboard of his humvee. Apparently he required a new drain hole.

Return from deployment it is back to "daddy."
I guess I've always had training on hot ranges where every gun is assumed to be loaded and treated accordingly.  I see no reason the military couldn't learn to play safely with guns just like every law enforcement agency in the country. Yes, there's rare negligence, but with proper training it's seldom anything other than property damage.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2014, 10:37:05 PM »
Complacency is the biggest issue with negligent discharge. The military can't do ranges for crap though. I have been on ranges with people firing around me while going down range, fire fights are not a 2D environment yet they are treated as such. Most commanders cannot wrap their heads around that. Change is hard, especially in the military.

Everyone is pretty capable of handling the weapons, that is one reason they are in the military, to be shooters.

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Re: Current active shooter thread
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2014, 03:03:36 AM »
Suspected Shooter at Kent State University tracked down off campus and is in custody.

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