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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2014, 09:14:32 AM »
we're up to 15 pages on the Baofeng Thread over on ARFcom:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_22/664274_Baofeng_UV_5R_information.html

for $40, its a fine radio.  Would I bet my life on anything made by another fellow human from anywhere on Earth?....you're kidding right?
(edit: nothing made by human hands is 100% infallible and I think some arguments on Japan vs. Chi-com radios go a little too far)
(edit 2: The Chi-com rigs are not built to the same standards as the Big3, but for the Average Ham, they suffice (at least for an intro to local repeater pinging)...SHTF/TEOTWAWKI/WROL//Tribulation/4 Horsemen/Zombie Apocalypse/etc...notwithstanding)

If it takes a cheap-o Chi-com radio to get some interested in the hobby (growing the hobby) then so be it. 

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2014, 03:41:49 PM »
What are the differences in the models? Which is best? I see on Amazon there is a UV-5R, UV-5RE plus, and UV-5RA. I have heard that some of the accessories might not fit on all the models variations.

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2014, 04:57:24 PM »
What are the differences in the models? Which is best? I see on Amazon there is a UV-5R, UV-5RE plus, and UV-5RA. I have heard that some of the accessories might not fit on all the models variations.

http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/UV5R-FAQ.php#firmware

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Q:  Which is the Newest version of the UV5R series?
A:   The UV-5R is a generic transceiver.
          There are dozens of variations available, such as
          UV5R, RA, RB, E5, F8, GT3, etc.    (view_list_of_models)
          Other than Case and Color, they are the same_radio. (rebranded)
          If you have the newest firmware, you have the newest radio.
Note:
   Cables and accessories are compatible with some exceptions.
   The UV-5RAX is designed for 150/220MHz.
   A compatibility list can be found at:            UV-5R Compatibility

Not sure I agree 100% with this, but...

From http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Baofeng_UV5R_Variants

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Baofeng UV5R Variants

The Baofeng UV-5R is the basis for many other models. Any vendor that purchases a large quantity of radios can have a private label (and in some cases, firmware version) applied to the radio. There is, in most cases, almost no actual difference between the variants, which is very confusing for customers.

Except for the F-11, all of these variants use "UV-5R" as the Model selection in CHIRP.

Known variants include:

    BF-E500S
    BF-F8/BF-F8+
    BF-F9
    F-11: Import Communications
    GT-3
    UV-5R V2+
    UV-5R+/UV-5R+Plus
    UV-5R2
    UV-5RA/UV-5RA+/UV-5RAX+
    UV-5RAX (2M/1.25M)
    UV-5RB
    UV-5RC/UV-5RCX+
    UV-5RCX (2M/1.25M)
    UV-5RD
    UV-5RE/UV-5RE Plus
    UV-5RG
    UV-5RK
    UV-5RQ
    UV-5RS
    UV-5RT
    UV-5RU
    UV-5S
    UV-E5/UV-E5 MK2: Vero Global Communication

So... the biggest difference?  Firmware.  How big of a difference?  Meh... I haven't heard any earth-shattering news that makes me want to sell my ol' UV-5R+Plus radios with that ol' BFB291 firmware, to get the latest and greatest firmware.


for $40, its a fine radio.  Would I bet my life on anything made by another fellow human from anywhere on Earth?....you're kidding right?
(edit: nothing made by human hands is 100% infallible and I think some arguments on Japan vs. Chi-com radios go a little too far)
(edit 2: The Chi-com rigs are not built to the same standards as the Big3, but for the Average Ham, they suffice (at least for an intro to local repeater pinging)...SHTF/TEOTWAWKI/WROL//Tribulation/4 Horsemen/Zombie Apocalypse/etc...notwithstanding)

If it takes a cheap-o Chi-com radio to get some interested in the hobby (growing the hobby) then so be it. 

CHIRP is your friend...the end


I couldn't have said that better.  Thanks SCW!

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2014, 06:09:30 PM »
The smart guys at the Yahoo Baofeng B5/6 users group just figured out how a B5, and I assume a B6 as well, can be CHIRP programmed as a tri-band radio! 2M, 70cm AND 220! http://youtu.be/72jwAbEFEb0

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2014, 07:16:39 PM »
The smart guys at the Yahoo Baofeng B5/6 users group just figured out how a B5, and I assume a B6 as well, can be CHIRP programmed as a tri-band radio! 2M, 70cm AND 220! http://youtu.be/72jwAbEFEb0
I suspected this might be possible.  Nice to see some confirmation...now to get the appropriate antenna.
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2014, 03:15:30 PM »
 >:(Ok, Well I took the plunge and bought a Baofeng Radio. I was hoping to use it as a cheap police scanner but I’m not having very much luck. I’m able to pick up only two police channels. One is a sheriff channel the other is the ENNIS police department. I live in Red Oak Texas and want to hear the Red Oak Police department, the Glenn Heights Police Department and the Ovilla Police Department. I looked at www.radioreference.com to get the frequency of Ellis County Texas and have programmed the frequencies in but I have not been able to listen in. What am I doing wrong or do the police use something different?

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2014, 04:06:13 PM »
are they on a trunkated/digital system?

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »
That is what I'm thinking. That they are digital or trunk system. I may just go and visit them to see how their radios are set up.

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2014, 08:25:46 PM »
Brownlow,

If you have access to the iOS App Store, you can download the free app "Scanner Radio Deluxe". Once you set it up, you can look for freqs close to you by clicking "near me". It will pull up police, fire, ems, and armature ham repeaters.

I find it a lil easier than radio reference because it lists the freqs and other details of the channels. If you are doing ham repeaters that you want to transmit on, you'll have to lookup more details than the app will give you.

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2014, 09:15:41 PM »
Thanks Beechnut. I will look up that app and check it out.

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2014, 06:12:36 AM »
155.94000     WNPG393     RM    F13 NAC    Red Oak PD    Red Oak Police Dispatch     P25     Law Dispatch

Just so you know what you are looking at, Red Oak is now using APCO 25 digital. Aka P25.

The F13 NAC is the digital equivalent to the CTCSS code in the analog world. Sorry the 39 dollar isnt going to listen to it. You will need a P25 scanner and/or a P25 capable radio.
  



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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2014, 06:14:33 AM »
Also for those reading about the $39 radio, I posted a thread awhile back similar to the OldGrouchs... however I go a bit further into what are much better radios out there.

I highly suggest everyone read it.
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=47536.0
  



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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2014, 11:49:05 AM »
i just ordered one of these, can't wait to play with it. i'll read through this whole thread when i get some more time.


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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2014, 06:06:38 PM »
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2014, 05:57:27 PM »
it came in. it's a lot smaller than i thought it would be, so that was a pleasant surprise. i was able to successfully turn it on and off... aside from that i have no idea what i am doing...


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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2014, 11:28:01 PM »
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it came in. it's a lot smaller than i thought it would be, so that was a pleasant surprise. i was able to successfully turn it on and off... aside from that i have no idea what i am doing...

If you have the programming cable then you should go to this site and follow directions to set up cable and software.  http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/UV5R-Software.php

Then use radio, download from radio, to confirm cable works. Then use open stock config and load NOAA, FRS, GMRS, and other common bands.  Then go to http://www.radioreference.com/ to get info on local repeaters, and emergency stations.  Enter info into CHIRP and then hit download to radio.  Next step get HAM license so you can use repeaters.  This is what I have done so far.  Also, you can use the call button to listen to FM radio.  Moni button turns on the light.  Lots of you tube videos on programming the radio.

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2014, 08:18:05 AM »
thanks. i did get the cable. i plan on sitting down with it one evening and starting to orient myself around it, and i probably will use this to get my HAM. i'm pretty excited about having it, but between learning this, my project motorcycle, my garden, and a new baby, finding time to juggle everything is getting hard!


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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2014, 11:27:54 AM »
From the Yahoo b5/6 group about the 220 band expansion...

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> 1 Install the latest CHIRP daily build
>

The latest build, CHIRP daily-20140413, is currently the one and only build
that supports the '220' band (220.000 - 260.000 MHz) and expanded VHF
coverage (130.000 - 175.000 MHz) for the UV-B5/B6.

> 2 Download channels and settings from UV-B5
>

Doing this will allow your friend to add the '220' band without losing his
current channels and settings.

3 Raise the VHF upper limit above 260 MHz
>

This must be done. Unlike the UV-5R, the UV-B5/B6 will only display
channels that have their frequency between the band limits. The default
limits are 136 (low) and 174 (high) and 222 does not fall between them.

If the VHF Upper Limit is left at the factory default 174, then none of the
added '220' channels entered in step 4 will be displayed in channel mode.
This setting is in the Setting -> Basic Settings menu. It is third from
the bottom and must be set to 260 or higher. Just run it up to 270 (as
high as it will go). If this setting will not go up to 270, then the wrong
version of CHIRP is being used.

4 Edit 220 frequencies as needed
>

If frequencies between 220.000 and 260.000 MHz can't be entered into the
CHIRP memory spreadsheet editor, then the wrong version of CHIRP is being
used.

> 5 Upload to UV-B5
>

If the newly added channels don't display after uploading them to the
radio, then the band limits haven't been expanded wide enough to include
the newly added frequencies.

>
> Done
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2014, 09:33:24 PM »
I will attest to the UV-82's durability.  I've been carrying it on the ambulance for the last couple of months.  I work 24 hour shifts. 

It hits the concrete/ground at least twice a shift & sometimes more.  It gets caught on the seat belt as I get out of the truck & gets pulled from my belt where it promptly hits whatever's under me, usually the concrete floor of the ambulance bay or the concrete drive of the local ER.  The only thing I've had to do is tighten the screws holding the belt clip on once.

Why don't I do something to prevent this happening?  Because now it's an exercise in durability.  I'm going to keep letting it hit the concrete until something gives.
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM »
Good deal with good reviews. Seems complicated to set up. I will have to keep an eye on this thread.
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2014, 10:20:30 AM »
Lots of little quirks with these Baofengs. Yesterday I was trying to enter FRS channel 1, at 462.5625MHz. Set step to 2.5KHz; check. Enter 4-6-2-5-6-2….Baofeng says 462.560. Hmmm. Try again…4-6-2-5-6-2…Baofeng again says 462.560. What?!? Consult inscrutable ‘manual’. Manual remains stubbornly inscrutable. A quick Internet search reveals nothing of any use. Grasshopper decides to hang it up for the day.

This morning, apparently struck by Confucius-esque inspiration, I tried 4-6-2-5-6-3. Success!

Yes I know. Buy the damn cable.

But for what it’s worth, I think some people are being a little overly critical of this radio. Everyone understands that it’s a cheap – basically throwaway – radio, and it’s definitely not what someone would want to have clipped on their belt when the zombies start marching. But it’s a great starter radio, a great way to figure out what’s out there frequency-wise, a great loaner radio, and by God, if you can program this sucker, you can probably program about anything else. And besides, if your budget is tight, better this radio than nothing at all. Same argument I’ve always made about inexpensive firearms (like Hi Points). If that’s all you can afford, then it’s far better to have that than nothing at all.


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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2014, 10:25:23 AM »
Glad to see 220 band is opened up.

VERY unused portion of the amateur bands with lots of possibilities  ;D

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2014, 04:01:28 PM »
If you have the programming cable then you should go to this site and follow directions to set up cable and software.  http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/UV5R-Software.php

Then use radio, download from radio, to confirm cable works. Then use open stock config and load NOAA, FRS, GMRS, and other common bands.  Then go to http://www.radioreference.com/ to get info on local repeaters, and emergency stations.  Enter info into CHIRP and then hit download to radio.  Next step get HAM license so you can use repeaters.  This is what I have done so far.  Also, you can use the call button to listen to FM radio.  Moni button turns on the light.  Lots of you tube videos on programming the radio.


Thanks for the guidance!  I am getting my UV-5R on Friday and will follow this set up.  I have thought about a HAM license for years, so making this first step to get familiar and then take the test so I can transmit on SW.
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2014, 11:02:20 AM »
Ok guys, tiem to buy my first Bao....

it will be a backup to my TH-F7 and poosibly used a simplex repeater at some later date.

Questions are....
Which of all the various sub-models to het and why?

And will I be OK with an Original Baofeng programming cable? (already downloaded all relevant software from the web, including find_com_port.exe). I have in mind the internal USB driver off he cable.

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2014, 11:40:45 PM »
BTW I was refering to the UV-5R models

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2014, 11:46:08 AM »
  I would get the base UV-5R.  That's the model the AA battery holder accessory fits without modification.  That said, if you aren't really interested in that accessory then I'd say just get whichever sub-model has the best price.
  Also, there is no physical difference between all the other sub-models except cosmetics.  All the features that seem to be added are actually software changes.  So long as you get one with a later version of software you'll get all the bells and whistles.
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2014, 12:19:28 PM »
Yes, the AA battery holder DOES NOT fit my UV-5R+ (the metal case one).

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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2014, 12:26:52 PM »
There are videos on how to modify the A A battery case to fit the plus model.
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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2014, 08:58:06 AM »
Is it just me or does the earpiece that came with the uv5re just sucks as far as sound quality...

Anybody have a cheap headset or earpiece that has better sound quality?

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Re: The Dedicated Baofeng Radio Thread
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2014, 12:12:20 AM »

I'm about to buy a Baofeng. In my research I came upon this:
The (Chinese) Radio Documentation Project
High quality and in-depth User Manuals for Chinese Handheld Two-Way radios.
Free and open source documentation for everyone.

Basically it's a project done by enthusiasts who found the OEM manuals too dry, sterile, confusing? Use your own adjectives, lol so they put together their own user manual for the Baofeng UV-5R

hope it helps. The link above is a PDF file. I saved it & then printed it too just to be safe. I have a large binder where I put these types of things in case there's no internet & no power  ;) just sayin ~


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