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Offline Nurse Amy

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Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« on: August 11, 2014, 09:13:41 PM »
Hi All,

Here is a down to earth explanation of Ebola without all the fear-mongering.Up-to-date information from Dr. Bones.
http://www.doomandbloom.net/ebola-the-next-great-pandemic/  ???

"All this being said, our Modern Medical Systems are better stocked and have strict infectious controls in place. Most likely, the virus would be contained quicker and patients would receive higher levels of symptomatic treatment leading to much lower death rates than seen now in West Africa. Being prepared and aware will help all of us deal with this virus more effectively here in the United States."

Knowledge is power,
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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 09:32:19 PM »
     Unfortunately, a calm, informed, well reasoned approach to situations like this doesn't sell the news. The sensationalism junkies just keep looking for more fear and worry to up their market share. The news cycle has a very short turn around time, between disasters (real or invented). Remember that search for the airliner that disappeared? How about the airliner that was shot down over Ukraine? Now that things seem to be settling down between Israel and Hamas, the media will be looking for something else to hype. They're lucky they still have ISIS in Iraq to tide them over. Eventually the Ebola virus will burn itself out and the fearmongers will have to look elsewhere. The media's worst fear is that people will react with intelligence, become informed of the facts about any new situation and not panic. Bad news sells, fearful headlines sell alot.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 10:42:24 PM »
Thank you Nurse Amy and Dr. Bones for this and, well, all the other stuff y'all do.  It's good to have two voices of informed sanity around in times like these.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 11:51:03 PM »
hey Nurse Amy, I had read this the other day, good article, we have a thread for pandemic preparation with a link to it http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=51093.msg583913#msg583913 Is there anything else you would recommend having around for preparation ?

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2014, 02:18:57 AM »
Lucky you guys,

I live in Angola so I am only one corrupt Airport official away from being in an Ebola infected city  :-[

Africa is shit, you please read the story of the Liberian-American that took the virus to Nigeria, it was clear the asshat was sick, but someone let him board the plane because he had money and connections.

I was procrastinating on my preps, but this is a wakeup call, got most my gear and my BOV, just need to make my kits and stock on food for 3 months.

Thanks heaven I do have a at least 6 months of expense in my savings account, and some hard assets I can sell if things go crazy.

I am not panicking, but still the danger feels close and in our countries nobody tells the truth until there are bodies in the streets. Angola dealt with a Marburg epidemic in previous years, I hope we miss this joy train. I HOPE

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2014, 06:39:43 AM »
Wow Sams, stay safe man!  Sounds like you've got things rolling with prepping now.  Also, this epidemic looks like one of those cases where even a little bit of preps can help immensely.  Again, stay safe, and keep us posted.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2014, 09:04:54 PM »
Be safe Sams! We wish you all the best!

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2014, 05:21:23 PM »
With the passing of the Dallas Ebola patient I feel we are going to start seeing people flooding emergency rooms.  I feel that the news media is fear mongering at this point.  The media is going to start reporting on every person that has diarrhea and a fever.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2014, 08:32:06 PM »
Thanks, Nurse Amy. 

You both are a real asset to the preparedness community, and I'm glad you're here on the TSP forum as well.

Having met you and Dr. Bones in person in North Carolina, I can say that you sure seem to be the same people in person as on the air.

Call  Dorothy and tell her to get Jack to have you back on!  We miss y'all!

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2014, 08:37:21 PM »
With the passing of the Dallas Ebola patient I feel we are going to start seeing people flooding emergency rooms.  I feel that the news media is fear mongering at this point.  The media is going to start reporting on every person that has diarrhea and a fever.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2014, 12:46:35 PM »
     Unfortunately, a calm, informed, well reasoned approach to situations like this doesn't sell the news. The sensationalism junkies just keep looking for more fear and worry to up their market share. The news cycle has a very short turn around time, between disasters (real or invented). Remember that search for the airliner that disappeared? How about the airliner that was shot down over Ukraine? Now that things seem to be settling down between Israel and Hamas, the media will be looking for something else to hype. They're lucky they still have ISIS in Iraq to tide them over. Eventually the Ebola virus will burn itself out and the fearmongers will have to look elsewhere. The media's worst fear is that people will react with intelligence, become informed of the facts about any new situation and not panic. Bad news sells, fearful headlines sell alot.

If only there were a news anchor alive with the kahones to say this on air.
I'm getting really sick of all this Ebola fear mongering.
Yes, it's real. Yes, it's deadly. But is it at my back door waiting to come in the moment I forget to wash my hands? Nope.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2014, 02:19:12 PM »
If only there were a news anchor alive with the kahones to say this on air.
I'm getting really sick of all this Ebola fear mongering.
Yes, it's real. Yes, it's deadly. But is it at my back door waiting to come in the moment I forget to wash my hands? Nope.

I'm right there with ya.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2014, 05:31:20 PM »
It's one thing to die. It's another thing entirely to die in a particularly horrible way.

Ebola is one of those particularly horrible ways to die. The very primal psychological undercurrent swirling madly around this avenue of death is the sort of subject matter that PhD's are made from.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2014, 07:40:29 PM »
     I think that part of the problem is that (as I remember), Ebola was the disease in the movie "Hot Zone". I think in that script, the strain of Ebola was similar to Ebola Reston and was presented as an airborne virus. That movie did present a very nightmare situation and it all happened on American soil. I think that in the minds of many, Ebola strains, lethality and modes of transmission are all the same. This is a serious situation, but I think we have seen about the last of this particular outbreak. Awareness will mean that the chances of another carrier bringing in the infection are reduced and even if another case pops up, this experience will make dealing with it much more successful.
     I agree that now the biggest danger is uncalled for panic. There are plenty of people (ala Chicken Little) running around spreading rumors, hunches, misinformation and basically looking for anyone who will listen to their fearmongering. They can't wait to point fingers and find blame for real or imagined mistakes made in dealing with this. Is it serious? Yes. Were mistakes made? Yes. Will it mean the deaths of millions and the end of civilization? Only if we let it.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2014, 06:19:49 AM »
If you say "flu" people think of runny noses and boxes of kleenex.

But if you say "flesh-eating virus" people think of their arms and legs dissolving away into puddles of blood during the night.

THIS is the difference in the level of terror that ebola is plaguing people with.
 

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2014, 06:03:01 AM »
     There is really no need to panic. As of last night we passed the incubation period for anyone potentially exposed in the U.S. The U.S. is now Ebola free. Doesn't mean there couldn't be new imported cases, But hey, you could get hit by a bus, while crossing the street today. No need to blame the government for not having a plan to ban killer buses. Some people seem to just "get off" by stirring the pot with outrageous conspiracies and the satisfaction that they have riled up lots of people and gotten attention.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2014, 06:07:47 AM »
     I do have to make a correction. There are still two nurses recovering from Ebola, so technically I was mistaken. However they seem to be doing well and I haven't heard of any worries about health worker's contact with them.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2014, 01:26:12 PM »
Yep  another Health Care worker Died this Morning. from Ebola
yep----NOT TO WORRY FOLKS

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2014, 01:34:18 PM »
Yep  another Health Care worker Died this Morning. from Ebola
yep----NOT TO WORRY FOLKS
Of course he arrived on Saturday, already too sick to survive.  So you are correct, unless you work in one of the four designated hospitals to deal with Ebola patients and are assigned to one of those patients, there really is no need to worry.

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2018, 12:55:13 PM »
Just remember to keep up on the news, no Ebola here, yet, hopefully never.  But here is a reminder on how serious it still is

to keep in perspective, not anywhere near time to panic, just kep it on your radar

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For me personally, when the odds get to the point that Ebola is likelier than not going to come through the ER door on this side of the pond, it's time to take a leave of absence.

FWIW, the outbreak in W. Africa in 2014 was 14X as big as this one before anyone came here. But from now to that point only took about 4 months in 2014.

It isn't time to panic, by any stretch of imagination.
But this is officially an item of interest at this point:
It's spreading essentially unchecked, despite some earlier slowing down, and they'll likely lose control completely and scream "Rape!" there shortly. A month, maybe two, and perhaps sooner.

It's apparently now about halfway between the point where there's one case, and the point where it starts showing up on other continents.
With four international airports and four major theme park destinations hereabouts, it won't stay far away for long at present trajectory and speed.


In the link he gives his answers to people questions about the vaccine, how efective our previous measure against infection (2014) were, etc....
https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/12/questions-i-get-questions.html?m=1

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Re: Ebola Awareness, NO panic needed
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2018, 12:41:12 PM »
A little more information on the current state of Ebola in the Congo and surrounding areas.
Sounds like it is serious over there.

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2018/12/in-the-congo-ebola-is-spreading-to-urban-areas/?fbclid=IwAR3n3TNUTVUMDg2tcg-jliWfhUVNO3KQVPwrPvynWpti014S-0G6kqMcQro