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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2014, 06:26:55 PM »
Ah, we tried.  Mega-noise levels, dunno where from.  Next week!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2014, 06:55:45 PM »
Yes next week.   Sooner or later we'll get this licked!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2014, 06:24:04 AM »
I'll be in next week as well. Has psk31 been more successful at getting people together or do we just have a lot of digital fans on here?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2014, 09:48:39 PM »
I'll be in next week as well. Has psk31 been more successful at getting people together or do we just have a lot of digital fans on here?
PSK31 so far has been a lot more robust than voice.  Last night, with S9 noise in my area, there was no way voice could've even been detected.  At least a little of Vult's signal managed to come through on PSK.  It's definitely a reliability thing, I'd way rather talk on the radio than type.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2014, 10:00:47 PM »
I will get on this net one day gents...like when I get an HF Rig.  ;D

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2014, 05:10:06 AM »
I've been a ham for about 14 years. Just last week I tried psk31. I'm very impressed. I've been able to copy 100 percent signals that I don't think I could have copied on cw because becausi couldn't really hear it.  It Went from being something I could care less about to loving it in about a minute. Trying to build a round table with people from all over I can see the advantage.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2014, 12:24:02 PM »
To copy ghost signals from PSK 31 is just way cool.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2014, 09:52:47 AM »
31 Hz bandwidth will do that for you.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2014, 09:05:30 PM »
Are we on for tomorrow?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2014, 06:02:55 AM »
Join the Survival Podcast Hams Digital Radio Network tonight.

Let’s see who we can find On-Air.

PSK-31   7.080 USB +1700  @ 9pm Eastern

Wednesday’s at 9pm Eastern on 7.080 Mhz  USB +1700 .

Log into the chat room to coordinate; just use your call as a nickname:  http://chat.tspnet.tomstopics.com

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2014, 09:37:51 PM »
A few after-action notes on tonights... net?  Well almost net, more of a round table.

Vulture, cellblock776, NR5P, and I all made it, so we had 4.  (remember, unless someone says it's ok to use their call on the forum, keep it to forum names; thanks.)

Three of us could hear each other, but only NR5P could hear Cellblock.  But then we were on 40m, could've probably made that short trip to him from MS on 80m just fine.

Signals came booming in the 400 to 1000 mile range with BPSK31 on 40m.  Vulture suggested switching to QPSK, which has error correction, but my little iPhone app doesn't have that so we stuck to BPSK.  Worked fine anyway on BPSK31.

7.065 USB, down in the data sub-band, was pretty clear.  We originally were trying 7.080 but there was some QRM there, and thing were busy and a little splattered on 7.070, but 7.065 was unused and clear.  I suggest we start from there next week.

So... we got some signals through.  It was a little hectic, evolved into a sort of round-table, and it mostly worked!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2014, 09:14:29 AM »
Sounds like things are coming along great ,wish I was able to take part....several weeks to  go.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2014, 06:04:52 PM »
Sounds like things are coming along great ,wish I was able to take part....several weeks to  go.
We'll be here.  Also Carl, PM me anytime you want to do some SSB conversation, whenever you're up to it.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2014, 12:08:16 PM »
Is it Wednesday again already?  We doing this?

Join the Survival Podcast Hams Digital Radio Network tonight.

Let’s see who we can find On-Air.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2014, 01:44:26 PM »
I'm going to try to be on. I hit a wild hog this morning with my car so I'm looking at a parts car. Should be back in time though

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #75 on: November 05, 2014, 02:35:35 PM »
Still trying to figure out what went wrong with my interface...I may not be able to make it by tonight but I'll try!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2014, 03:10:06 PM »
Why not it's Wednesday so there's nothing on TV even more then most nights. Grin

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2014, 05:44:21 PM »
OK, I'm in.   ;D

ps: Oooh, ooh, frequency: 7065 was pretty good last week.  7080 had some FSK guys playing around, 7070 was way crowded and splatterey.  How about 7065 to start?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2014, 06:57:08 PM »
7080 + 1700 it is.

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2014, 07:42:39 PM »
  Just had a good conversation we had coms for almost 30 min. 73

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2014, 07:47:21 PM »
  Just had a good conversation we had coms for almost 30 min. 73
That was pretty cool.  Had 3 total tonight, but one guy had to bail early.  Band faded toward the end a bit, but it worked well enough.  73!

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2014, 11:33:36 AM »
Anyone want to try a contact Thursday night? 40 or 80 meter voice?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2014, 12:25:50 PM »
Anyone want to try a contact Thursday night? 40 or 80 meter voice?

Still in hospital,wish I could be there with you folks....

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #83 on: November 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PM »
Sorry Folks, my interface is still out of order....Anyone want to run the net feel free.  The chat is always up....

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2014, 06:52:49 PM »
I was wanting to try voice LSB

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2016, 11:23:40 AM »
Been away for awhile, is this net still happening or faded away?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2016, 05:11:53 PM »
Been away for awhile, is this net still happening or faded away?
We tried, but it's hard bringing in everyone together on one band, because everybody's at different ranges.  Also, most of us were using 100w barefoot radios and antennas optimized for regional comms.  That doesn't help either.  FWIW, we tried the same thing with the crew over at the Prepared Ham site, and had much the same result.

(Before any prospective hams think that this is in any way saying that ham radio can't get through, well, no.  It's just that bands have to be carefully chosen for ranges with these portable rigs, and that getting a widely scattered group all talking on the same band at once is extremely difficult.)

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2016, 06:25:33 PM »
Dang!   :tinfoily:

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2016, 07:14:23 PM »
Dang!   :tinfoily:
Well *we* could get through just fine on 40m, at least once the worms stopped wiggling all over your ultra-stealth antenna. ::)  It's just that we both had to tune to 20m to get SCW in on the conversation, but skipped right over each other, then it all turned into a sort of demented relay exercise after that.  Did we ever get Smurf in on any of this?

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Re: Unofficial TSP Hams Net.
« Reply #89 on: September 22, 2016, 03:59:49 AM »
Well *we* could get through just fine on 40m, at least once the worms stopped wiggling all over your ultra-stealth antenna. ::)  It's just that we both had to tune to 20m to get SCW in on the conversation, but skipped right over each other, then it all turned into a sort of demented relay exercise after that.  Did we ever get Smurf in on any of this?

Smurf was not antenna capable then but you bring up an important fact that different frequencies 'bounce' back to earth at different distances
as the reflectivity of the "F" layer varies and as frequency changes,,,THE HIGHER THE FREQUENCY,THE LONGER THE HOP. 40 ,60,and 80 meters
are shorter range bands while bands like 10 and 20 meters take a shallow angle to reflect and so we get insight as to why 'takeoff' angle is so important to a DX'er.
Note that this is due to reflectivity AND take off angle of antenna design and often antenna height above ground. A vertical antenna gives best angle for distance
while low to earth and a dipole/inverted "V" provides LOCAL (to 500 miles) when low to earth and better distance when 1/4 wavelength above earth or more.

For NVIS the LOW to earth dipole with it's center lower than it's ends by a few feet actually provides much higher vertical signal than a truly horizontal dipole ,this helps
to explain why Hams have so many antennas in the air.Antennas and propagation are the Hams best friends or worst enemies ...you can't fight nature ,
but learn to take advantage of her and Ham becomes FUN rather than frustration.

SMURF should be in range of BOTH of us on 20 meters ,on a good propagation day...but rarely lower frequencies.

Above is my over-simplification of a very complex problem ...Ham's were gifted with the HF bands due to their inconsistency.  My 2 cents.