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What is this?
« on: May 17, 2009, 07:40:00 PM »
It's a .38 special from a German box of ammo? I have never seen this type of bullet and was curious if someone knows what it is?

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 07:58:38 PM »
No pic?  ;)

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 08:55:48 PM »
What does the box say?

S (German designation) = (light) pointed ball
SS (German designation) = heavy pointed ball
spetskula = pointed bullets
and
S. Spitzgeschoss = (light) pointed ball bullet
S.m.E. Spitzgeschoss mit Eisenkern = pointed bullet w/ iron core
s.S. schweres Spitzgeschoss = heavy pointed ball bullet

Nasty looking, but I presume all of them hurt pretty badly whether flat round pointed or hollow.  :P

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 01:59:42 AM »
Well, Vollmantel-Geschoss just means fully jacketed projectile ... I don't know about the significance of the cone shaped bullet, but I do know that hollowpoints have a really evil reputation in Germany dating back to WW1, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are seldom sold there.

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 04:19:27 AM »
Estate sale bounty?

They messed around with pointed bullets in the mausers way back when but i haven't seen this sort of thing around here in commercial ammo. 

Looks like moly coated lead, I wouldn't want to line those up in a tubular mag lever rifle though. 

Nice to have "non-erosive" rounds whatever that means....

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 10:50:07 AM »
  Got them from a friend....Laughing at the non errosive...So are they for punching holes in paper/protection? I was gonna run them through a revolver, do you think that would be ok???

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 05:03:31 PM »
10.2 grams = 157.410055 grains

You can convert most things right from Google.

Just type "10.2 grams in grains" and out it comes.

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 06:03:45 PM »
Not a truncated cone bullet.

Truncate= to shorten, in this case by flattening or chopping the end of the cone.

It is just an oddball pointed bullet; since it appears to be lead it is probably intended to be a target or plinking bullet. 158g is a common weight for 38.  Made for revolvers, fire away.

230g truncated cone bullets on the left

 

from this mold:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=397569

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2009, 03:08:25 AM »
Cool thanks everyone

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2009, 01:58:16 PM »
Not a truncated cone bullet.

Truncate= to shorten, in this case by flattening or chopping the end of the cone.

It is just an oddball pointed bullet; since it appears to be lead it is probably intended to be a target or plinking bullet. 158g is a common weight for 38.  Made for revolvers, fire away.


good call, you can see the reason why i went with that angle on my guess. The weight is definitely a 38/357 bullet weight.
thanks for the correction.

Anyone ever encounter any molds like that?

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 05:24:01 PM »
NEI does

www.neihandtools.com

I think they make it in .358.; I know they make it in .451.