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How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« on: September 06, 2016, 08:58:39 AM »
How do I use a sling to stabilize  an AR15 pistol while shooting?

I know I've already asked one question but....
Is there a method of using a sling to " brace or stabilize" the pistol to make staying on target a little easier?
Right now I have no sling, it's just kind of a novelty.
9" buffer tube, 10.5" barrel. If that matters.
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Offline Jack Crabb

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 09:19:16 AM »
One method is to shorten the sling and push the pistol away from your body/against the sling. The push/pull tension in the sling is supposed to stabilize the pistol.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2016, 10:48:12 AM »
A buttstock will stabilize it ...with the bolt weight and all you really need another point of contact or you will just 'bounce' around.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2016, 06:02:01 AM »
A buttstock will stabilize it ...with the bolt weight and all you really need another point of contact or you will just 'bounce' around.

But won't the buttstock make it an SBR?

http://blog.adamsarms.net/blog/ar-pistol-vs-sbr

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2016, 06:13:54 AM »
But won't the buttstock make it an SBR?

http://blog.adamsarms.net/blog/ar-pistol-vs-sbr

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You bet it will.
I can't understand why an AR style pistol has so many who like them...
you take a good weapon and cut off both ends and yet expect it to fit in your pocket and drive tacks at 500 yards...
You really  need another point of contact to stabilize ANY weapon as arms length just allows the human condition to enter the equation.
Maybe a bipod will help? 


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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2016, 08:10:37 AM »
As is usually the case I agree with Carl. I looked into buying one a few years back "because they look cool". Turns out the functionality is a little suspect and at the end of the day all you get is a long range pistol that needs to be braced to hit anything. If I ever want to go down that road it'll be with a Thompson Contender.

I guess I understand having one and keeping a buttstock as a just-in-case SHTF WROL scenario. That makes some sense. No one asking for tax stamps then. But beyond that it seems like a rather poor tool.

Best of luck, I hope you prove me wrong.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2016, 08:22:31 AM »
As is usually the case I agree with Carl. I looked into buying one a few years back "because they look cool". Turns out the functionality is a little suspect and at the end of the day all you get is a long range pistol that needs to be braced to hit anything. If I ever want to go down that road it'll be with a Thompson Contender.

I guess I understand having one and keeping a buttstock as a just-in-case SHTF WROL scenario. That makes some sense. No one asking for tax stamps then. But beyond that it seems like a rather poor tool.

Best of luck, I hope you prove me wrong.

I believe that is intent, and could get you in trouble.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2016, 08:42:02 AM »
I believe that is intent, and could get you in trouble.

Well seeing as how I don't own one and have no desire to my understanding of why someone would is worth little. Fair enough, though. I am, after all, 100% compliant with all our laws and legal standards.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2016, 09:07:45 AM »
A buttstock will stabilize it ...with the bolt weight and all you really need another point of contact or you will just 'bounce' around.

This is where the SIG Brace or Shockwave brace come in handy.  Still keeps it legal (for now) as a pistol, but gives you that other point of contact.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/14/pistol-brace-comparison/

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2016, 01:47:24 PM »
I just tuck the buffer tube into my shoulder and fire it like a really short stocked rifle.  I built one because they are cool.  After getting it sighted in I was hitting a gong no problem at 125 yards. 

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2016, 04:32:38 PM »
I just tuck the buffer tube into my shoulder and fire it like a really short stocked rifle.  I built one because they are cool.  After getting it sighted in I was hitting a gong no problem at 125 yards.

Just so folks don't get the wrong idea...BECAUSE YOU WANT ONE is reason to have one...It is my opinion that it is a poor choice as a weapon
due to the ergonomics and weakness of the human element...my guys used MP5 or 11 inch cut 870 shotguns when shock and awe were needed.
My favorite toy is belt fed...

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2016, 04:41:28 PM »
Just so folks don't get the wrong idea...BECAUSE YOU WANT ONE is reason to have one...It is my opinion that it is a poor choice as a weapon
due to the ergonomics and weakness of the human element...my guys used MP5 or 11 inch cut 870 shotguns when shock and awe were needed.
My favorite toy is belt fed...

While I've only done it to a legal length of 18-1/2 inches, a pipe cutter can cut down an 870 barrel in less than 30 seconds.
You can find old barrels at pawn shops for around $30.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2016, 04:43:09 PM »
IMHO, they make for a decent option for a "SBR" substitute if you live in Kalifornia.  We don't have the option of owning SBR's or suppressors like the free states do.  I don't have the gonads to put a Sig brace on mine as our SBR laws are pretty vague and I'd rather not have a cop who just found out his wife was cheating on him take me in for possession of an "assault weapon" because he doesn't care what the ATF says.   That being said, what are they really good for?  Not much in my opinion other than shooting fireballs out of the barrel.  haha.  I know my buddies and I get a kick out of shooting it and that's about it.  It could be an OK HD gun, but it's so fricken loud I wouldn't want to shoot it in a hallway.  I'd much prefer an 870 for that, again though, we can't really have SBS's in CA either.  Unless you set up a trust of some sort, but I haven't looked that far into it.   

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2016, 04:45:24 PM »
While I've only done it to a legal length of 18-1/2 inches, a pipe cutter can cut down an 870 barrel in less than 30 seconds.
You can find old barrels at pawn shops for around $30.

The work was done with written LEO letterhead as I did and do custom work for a local DA and always on written orders.
The 870 is not quite so easy..one of my toys below...and YES ...rock and roll

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2016, 04:52:00 PM »
The work was done with written LEO letterhead as I did and do custom work for a local DA and always on written orders.
The 870 is not quite so easy..

If the barrel has the elevated rail piece, that definitely slows down the cutting process.  You'd have to cut that away first before using a pipe cutting wheel.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2016, 05:10:21 PM »
BADASS Carl.  Very badass.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2016, 05:13:40 PM »
BADASS Carl.  Very badass.

I bought it for under $500,but today I could buy a fine new truck for what it is worth...

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2016, 05:16:31 PM »
If the barrel has the elevated rail piece, that definitely slows down the cutting process.  You'd have to cut that away first before using a pipe cutting wheel.

I use a high speed friction cutter and belt polish along with silver solder to insure rib stays put,built for function,but I finish with pride.
Sorry for hijack...a third point of cintact is about the only way to stabilize a short,no butt AR as any sling action actually only amplifies instability.

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2016, 05:21:07 PM »
I bought it for under $500,but today I could buy a fine new truck for what it is worth...

NFA? 

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2016, 05:37:00 PM »
That is definitely a truck sitting right there. 

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2016, 08:26:45 PM »
One method is to shorten the sling and push the pistol away from your body/against the sling. The push/pull tension in the sling is supposed to stabilize the pistol.

Yes, this is the standard approach. 

Rob Pincus teaches an interesting '3 point' alternative.  See here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iLuZL9-u8NA.

There has also been some pick up in the backpacking community as a pack friendly survival weapon.  They can be effective to 300+ yards prone using backpack as rest or crouched down using shooting stick. The shooting stick technique is similar to what is used for hunting revolvers and single shots.






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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2016, 06:36:45 AM »
OH,and they though I was joking when I suggested a bipod... :sarcasm:

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2017, 05:18:31 PM »
Looks like one guy understands AR pistols here at least.I use the KAK brace for a number of reasons, but one reason is that it just looks like short AR stock. I beleive in aesthetic, and from and function is what I try to acheive. What I do Is use a dual point sling. Make it long enough to actually use it as a sling. If you want to keep it simple, just use a cheap ak sling with the leather tabs. my barrel tube is ten inches long and I fasten a handstop with a  quick release button on it, attach a se button with a sling loop ,and  then thread the ak leather tab thruough the rear of the KAK brace. then i adjust it so when i use the sling like a normal rifle, I can create enough tension with the sling at the back of my neck and the check weld to hold the pistol very steady it works as well as a rifle with buttstock in my opinion, you can compare your bullet groups from both types (rfle vs pistol) of AR's to verify what i said. i have a forward mounted red dot btw

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2018, 06:49:54 AM »
OH,and they though I was joking when I suggested a rifle bipod... :sarcasm:

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Re: How do I use a sling to stabilize an AR15 pistol while shooting?
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2018, 08:57:26 AM »
Shockwave Blade or Sig brace works much better and are legal to possess, mount and shoulder!