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What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« on: February 11, 2017, 12:53:34 PM »
A few years ago when I was in highschool I made rockets for science projects, iron oxide an important component in it. What uses might there be for that along with rocket fuel? I have a 5 pound bag of iron oxide btw lol.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 01:09:16 PM »
staining poured cement floor, dyeing fabric

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 01:32:50 PM »
I meant like if you could maybe use it to fuel something or preserve food or something useful idk lol. Just trying to think of how to make use of certain things around the house LOL.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 02:11:37 PM »
Thermite firestarters are amazing.  You can also do thermite welding.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 02:48:46 PM »
incendiary shotgun shells for shake and bake zombies... :zombie:

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 04:13:01 PM »
I meant like if you could maybe use it to fuel something or preserve food or something useful idk lol. Just trying to think of how to make use of certain things around the house LOL.

Sure. I guess I find making my own clothes and natural building useful and part of prepping, we all do different things ! I actually DO fabric dying and my own building....

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2017, 07:38:46 AM »
Would it work to provide iron for growing plants?

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 09:29:39 AM »
Thermite firestarters are amazing.  You can also do thermite welding.
You know any websites that can show me how to do thermite firestarting?

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 09:35:00 AM »
You know any websites that can show me how to do thermite firestarting?

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2017, 04:25:53 PM »
Careful with the thermite.  I remember my high school chemistry teacher doing a classroom demo for us (yup, that was 1971 or so -- he'd probably get arrested for terrorism if he tried it today!).  I'm sure there are ways to control it, but this is a case where I'd want to learn the techniques from an expert.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 06:30:37 PM »
Careful with the thermite....I'm sure there are ways to control it, but this is a case where I'd want to learn the techniques from an expert.

Good cautions.  It is very hard to stop a thermite reaction because it contains its own oxygen supply.  Not sure of a practical way to stop it once it gets going.  Also, it is not a good idea to watch the reaction given the intensity of uv emited.

You know any websites that can show me how to do thermite firestarting?

I don't know of a tutorial but several places sell kits, for example:

http://www.firefox-fx.com/kits.htm

25 LARGE THERMITE EMERGENCY FIRESTARTERS - MATCHLESS FRICTION STRIKER IGNITION

Make matchless thermite igniters! Now start emergency campfires or metal cutting without electricity or matches! Can also be used to cut off rusty locks the easy way! Sure fire ignition in any weather without matches and slowly combusts to produce heat and molten alloy metal in excess of 3000°F. Placed on wood and tinder, it will start even moist wood on fire. Keep them in glove or tool box and in the personal survival kit. Great for hunting and hiking! Kit comes with enough thermite, friction cup ignition mix, tubes and plugs to construct 25 large devices. Comes with instructions. Uses discarded strikers on books of matches to ignite.


Key thing is that it needs an igniter to get going.  A lot of people suggest magnesium ribbon.  So the thermite is put in a cardboard, paper or aluminum foil tube/packet.  This has magnesium ribbon wrapped once around with a decent length left as a fuse. Once this is lit its get out of dodge time.

But boy does it work:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fRYqDdCm4gI

I actually DO fabric dying and my own building....

I never thought of it for a dye.  In the video that Carl posted they also said it was mixed in milk to form the red paint used on barns in the past.  Very cool knowledge.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2017, 02:07:25 PM »
Thanks for the help :)

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 02:09:27 PM »
So is it possible to burn thermite as a lantern or something???

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 03:39:12 PM »
It's too intense of a process putting off more heat than you could contain and puts off toxic fumes that would be dangerous in a confined space. You'd need a lantern made out of ceramic and you'd burn through five pounds in minutes regardless of the rate you added fuel.

Thermite is a cool trick to have up ones sleeve, but it's kind of a one trick pony. Lots of intense heat for a very short period of time.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2017, 08:03:08 PM »
Maybe I could make a flamethrower out of thermite O_O LOL That'd be a cool/dangerous/probably illegal or something project to do.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2017, 09:08:40 PM »
Thermite doesn't make flames.  It just makes white-hot molten iron.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2017, 07:38:25 PM »
Thermite doesn't make flames.  It just makes white-hot molten iron.
Lol rip. You know if you can just set Iron Oxide on fire and if it burns? All it'd give off would be oxygen and leave behind iron if it does burn right?

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2017, 08:27:55 PM »
...You know if you can just set Iron Oxide on fire and if it burns? All it'd give off would be oxygen and leave behind iron if it does burn right?

Nope, iron oxide doesn't burn.  Iron will burn.  (Have you ever lit extra-fine steel wool on fire?  Sorta cool to watch.)  The iron combines with oxygen in the air and makes iron oxide.  Iron oxide is already burned, in effect, so it won't burn further all by itself.

The thermite reaction is:
iron oxide + aluminum --> aluminum oxide + iron + a whole lotta heat

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2017, 11:14:52 PM »
Maybe just use the iron oxide as a supplement on your oatmeal?
As it really is of little use for most thing,though I think eating it might not be good either.
Probably better to throw it out and concentrate on other things.

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2017, 04:54:27 PM »

Maybe just use the iron oxide as a supplement on your oatmeal?
As it really is of little use for most thing,though I think eating it might not be good either.
Probably better to throw it out and concentrate on other things.
Lol rip, what about stump remover?

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2017, 05:38:41 PM »
Lol rip, what about stump remover?

You are missing a limb and still want to play with chemicals??

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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
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Re: What uses are there for iron oxide in prepping?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2017, 08:19:27 PM »
IIRC, there is a chemical stump remover with iron oxide as it's primary ingredient. I don't know what else they put in it and don't remember the name.  Search on youtube for iron oxide and you'll probably find a lot of uses for it. I found out the other night that potassium permanganate is not only good for water disinfection, but also for starting fires if you happen to have a little glycerine(sugar syrup, essentially) as well.