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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2017, 12:49:59 PM »
  I guess a pig in a backpack would just be inconvenient to carry? ::)
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2017, 01:09:33 PM »
I guess a pig in a backpack would just be inconvenient to carry? ::)

If you manage it, double up on the earplugs... as the victim in the backpack will be screaming as only a porcine can.

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2017, 01:43:02 PM »
Curious, when cooled was your lard pure white like hydrogenated lard or some less white color? Did it stay liquid or harden?

The fat I get from cooking a fresh picnic ham with skin on hardens up in the refrigerator and is white.

I'd say it's all an off white color. Brighter to begin with, then gradually darkened somewhat.

Took a while to set up. 3-4 days and it all hardened up
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2017, 05:26:08 PM »
Can you pressure can your lard in mason jars? It should then be shelf stable for years.

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2017, 05:29:44 PM »
Interesting question. Butter is canned isn't it, what process don't know.
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2017, 05:33:49 PM »
Nope, nope, nope on the pressure canning. Botulism central. My open jar I keep in the fridge,the rest are in the freezer. Pound a pint. I usually keep 25 pints on hand

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2017, 06:00:45 PM »
Nope, nope, nope on the pressure canning. Botulism central. My open jar I keep in the fridge,the rest are in the freezer. Pound a pint. I usually keep 25 pints on hand

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Not the same as yogurt either, Botulism is bad stuff. I found something  (2 things)that may be of interest:

http://www.happypreppers.com/oil.html

http://www.preparednesspro.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-storing-oilsfats
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2017, 06:56:03 PM »
I've found every kind of answer about lard on the net. Nothing really consistent .
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2017, 07:07:10 PM »
  I guess a pig in a backpack would just be inconvenient to carry? ::)

Bacon seed wouldn't be much weight to pack around.
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2017, 07:26:02 PM »
I've found every kind of answer about lard on the net. Nothing really consistent .

I like to err on the side of caution. Especially in an emergency situation. Already had health issues under pressure, dont wanna do it again. But since I have had LTS since 1996, I have not had to have extreme emergency emergency food stores. I just store and rotate around a 18 month supply.

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2017, 03:54:22 AM »
This thread is causing me to rethink how I keep store bought lard. Store bought because I'm in a city and can't have pigs. I usually buy either the cardboard bricks or 4 lb. plastic bucket. Keep it on a shelf over the stove. Bacon grease in a container setting on the cabinet. I just bought a 3 lb. brick of lard and was going to put it in the cleaned empty lard bucket I have. Now I'm thinking after reading the posts and links Carl posted that I'll melt it and put it in pints canning jars. Still keeping one jar over the stove.
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2017, 04:41:04 AM »
  Sounds like a plan as FATS is just not a stable ,long storage kind of thing and the PIGMELON has yet to be invented.
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2017, 06:12:27 AM »
Also thinking that one piece canning lids would be the way to go. Less fumbling later when using the jar. Or put a plastic lid on the jar being used.

http://www.fillmorecontainer.com/Single-Piece-Canning-Lid-G70-Gold-Button-P276.aspx
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2017, 10:02:51 AM »
You don't have to own a pig. Stop in at a custom butcher/ slaughter house and ask them to save you back 25-50# of pork fat. It's less than $2 a pound. They will tell you when it ought to be ready, and it usually comes in 25 lb bags.

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2017, 05:06:22 PM »
Yes, there is that option.

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2017, 02:33:21 PM »
The vast majority of fats don't store well long term, especially nuts.  They go rancid, smell awful, taste bad, and can actually make you sick.

As far as protein, then yes, beans are great.  Quinoa is also awesome, but make sure you've tried cooking it a time or two before relying on it for survival.  It's not quite as simple as some other grains.

I have successfully stored almonds for 3 years and then eaten them. Both in plastic vacuum sealed bags and also in mylar sealed bags with just oxygen absorbers.

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2017, 03:22:40 PM »
  I talked to Mom and she corrected me..Grandma would use pure lard or CRISCO and melt it slowly till liquid then pour it into a ball jar and pour melted sealing wax on top...in the root cellar,it was not unusual for it to last 6 to 8 years as I though I had remembered...was there any other magic? I am not sure .
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2017, 04:15:32 PM »
Like paraffin, right?

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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2017, 05:00:54 PM »
  Yes,but she called it 'sealing wax' ...us grand kids used to get some to chew on ...Mom says that Grandma would pour a little on top of some things she canned as her jars were old and the wax did a better job of keeping the jars sealed from air..Her jars were the glass top with a rubber seal ring and a wire 'latch' that held the glass top under spring tension...Sorry ,remembering things from my teen years is not so detailed.

  The peaches I tasted ,that were some 40 years old ,were in such a glass top jar and sealed with wax,also wrapped in brown paper( I guess to keep out more light) they were brown and once the wax was busted out,smelled like honey ,as I recall, and I ate some ...I am told they worried though I didn't get sick.

  This is not a good test,I know ,but the wax may be a good way to keep as much oxygen as possible out of the product...Any thought CEDAR ?
I know her lard was stored this way.
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Re: What are the cheapest long term fats that I should store?
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2017, 07:29:39 PM »
Paraffin is a known carcinogenic, so I don't use it. But the USDA also recently said it still allows cooties into foods which is why paraffin is no longer recommended for jams and jellies like it had been. And jams and jellies are hard to make toxic under most conditions.

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